My younger self ...

[Pro.crasti.nation]

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Recently got sent these old photos by a friend, took photos of them and figured I'd pass it by you guys.

You've seen my present... state, you might as well compare and contrast with me, in my late '90s youth.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Any thoughts?

[geriatric_millennial]

Indid/Mountain Indid?

[Arūnas]

Antalya?

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Indid/Mountain Indid?

Something like that, thereabouts ...

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Antalya?

Where's that?

[Tooting Carmen]

You looked much more obviously Indian then than now.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

You looked much more obviously Indian then than now.

I think so, too. The more I age, the more I take after my father (who is also desi, but looks extremely atypical). The fewer elements of my mother remain, in my visage, to soften and warm my looks.

[Mixdguy17]

I would have never guessed u were indian dude, maybe middle eastern and mixed with some euro or some other middle eastern ethnicity.

[travv]

Where's that?

Turkey. You look very Turkish. I mean real Anatolian Turk. Zero Mongoloid.

[de Burgh II]

Indo Brachid


Description:
Indo Brachid proper, relatively recent Indid-Turano-Armenid contact type, probably the result of old Pashto, Saka, and Scythian migrations. Common from Southwestern India to Afghanistan, especially Gujarati, Maharashtra, and Eastern Pakistan. Typical in Nagar Brahmin, Kayastha, Kannada, Jat and Mir-Jat, South Baluchistan, sometimes Baloch, sporadically Indochina and Sumatra. Romani brought it to Europe.
Physical Traits:
Light to medium brown skin, straight or wavy hair. Medium height, mesoskelic, endomorph to ectomorph. Mildly brachycephalic, mildly hypsicranic with a flat occiput. Often convex, mildly leptorrhine nose. Face short. Overall similar to Indo Iranid, but less hairy, larger-headed, flatter-faced, higher-nosed, and shorter-statured, body hair scanter. Sometimes mildly slanting eyes and strong cheek bones.
Literature:
First named Homo indicus brachimorphus by Giuffrida-Ruggeri (1912). Risley (1917) called it Scytho-Dravidian, Eickstedt (1931, 1934) West (Indo-)Brachid, noting Turanid influence, Bernhard (1993) and Knussmann (1996) call it Indo Brachid. Lundman (1967), Giuffrida-Ruggeri (1921) and Biasutti (1967) linked it to Armenoid, so did Vallois (1971) as Alpo-Dinaric (his Anatolian / Armenoid).

http://humanphenotypes.net/indobrachidm.jpg

http://humanphenotypes.net/indobrachidf.jpg

http://humanphenotypes.net/indobrachid.gif

http://humanphenotypes.net/IndoBrachid.html

[Arūnas]

^^
with yellow dot in Turkey, yes

[Pietro97]

mena

[travv]

Lol at Indid or such. People are biased because you put England flag in your profile and people think you are Paki. If you put Turkey flag nobody think you are Indid.

[de Burgh II]

^^
with yellow dot in Turkey, yes

Yes, the bright yellow areas means that the phenotype is more common in this area (for this phenotype; it would be Northwest/Central India, Pakistan and Afghanistan which is strongly Iranian/Indic in nature that follows the Indo-Iranian/Indo-Aryan Steppic migrations) . Dark yellow areas like the one in Eastern Turkey means that it is rare/less common, but has a marginal/minimal influence in that area.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

I would have never guessed u were indian dude, maybe middle eastern and mixed with some euro or some other middle eastern ethnicity.

To my surprise back then, I got that a lot from various people, especially Middle Eastern people.

To my eyes, I looked like a "typical" accountant/IT guy or other soft North Indian mummy's boy.
Even now, tbh, I think I looked like an Indian Harry Potter, with the glasses.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Turkey. You look very Turkish. I mean real Anatolian Turk. Zero Mongoloid.

Ah, never had anyone point to a particular region but yes, many Turks have asked if I'm Turkish.
Lots of Turks down Kingsland Road...

[Mixdguy17]

To my surprise back then, I got that a lot from various people, especially Middle Eastern people.

To my eyes, I looked like a "typical" accountant/IT guy or other soft North Indian mummy's boy.
Even now, tbh, I think I looked like an Indian Harry Potter, with the glasses.

You sound like a really cool dude man, Its kind of refreshing to see member whos sane in this crazy ass forum. God speed to u bro.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Indo Brachid



http://humanphenotypes.net/IndoBrachid.html

Hmm, that seems more probable than Turkish or Middle Eastern.
Got plenty of family that have the big aubergine nose.

Height is a bit off. At 5'8, I'm pretty much the shortest male in my family, going back generations.
My father's around 6'3, my grandfather was a literal giant at 7'6ish, most of his, still living, cousins are 6'5 and upwards.

Our people, were known as "the tall people", by the bengalis, when they first settled in the region.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

You sound like a really cool dude man, Its kind of refreshing to see member whos sane in this crazy ass forum. God speed to u bro.

Lol, thanks man!

You sound like you've seen some trying times, lol.

[Mixdguy17]

Lol, thanks man!

You sound like you've seen some trying times, lol.

Dude on this forum, man theres some users on here I wish Ive never interacted with.... lol

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Lol at Indid or such. People are biased because you put England flag in your profile and people think you are Paki. If you put Turkey flag nobody think you are Indid.

Can't lie, I've had other desis (especially Bangladeshis in London) assume I'm non-desi, and many Turkish/European people assume I'm Turkish.

Whenever I close my eyes though, I see some Bollywood flick, from the '90s, with a Delhi mummy's boy pining over some gorgeous bint in a saree... lol.

[placebo]

you can atypically pass here but you look more like iranian. south asian is not my first guess but i would guess south asian before turkish.


Turkey. You look very Turkish. I mean real Anatolian Turk. Zero Mongoloid.

and there is no such thing, all anatolian turks have mongoloid.

really this fucking paleo thing getting boring.

[hurtuv]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108835&d=1626347183

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108834&d=1626347145

Recently got sent these old photos by a friend, took photos of them and figured I'd pass it by you guys.

You've seen my present... state, you might as well compare and contrast with me, in my late '90s youth.

Can you post here links to recent pictures/threads of you or pm me?

[Pro.crasti.nation]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108836&d=1626347631

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Can you post here links to recent pictures/threads of you or pm me?

Just posted, ^^.

[placebo]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108836&d=1626347631

You have South Asian vibe in your youth photos, but I couldn't have guessed right now. You look proper West Asian. I think you are Iranid maybe + some East Alpine.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

you can atypically pass here but you look more like iranian. south asian is not my first guess but i would guess south asian before turkish.
I've really had weird interactions with Turks, ever since I moved down this part of London. I wasn't aware that there was a large Turkish presence, on Kingsland Rd, or Shoreditch in general.

I do get the Iranian thing, but honestly, I think I just look like a kashmiri-punjabi-bengali blend.

[placebo]

I've really had weird interactions with Turks, ever since I moved down this part of London. I wasn't aware that there was a large Turkish presence, on Kingsland Rd, or Shoreditch in general.

I do get the Iranian thing, but honestly, I think I just look like a kashmiri-punjabi-bengali blend.

As far as I know there are many Turkish Cypriots in UK but not Anatolian Turks.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

You have South Asian vibe in your youth photos, but I couldn't have guessed right now. You look proper West Asian. I think you are Iranid maybe + some East Alpine.

You're the second person on here, to say "East Alpine", I don't think I asked first time so, what does that mean?

I think it's the baldness, that makes me look less desi.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

As far as I know there are many Turkish Cypriots in UK but not Anatolian Turks.

I am totally ignorant of the specifics. Made a drastic mistake at uni, as a result. Introduced some of my Greek friends to this Turkish friend ... lol.

The funniest reaction I got was from this Turkish newsagent who literally compared skin colour with me, because he got offended that I said I was "light brown"/"North Indian" type Bangladeshi (he asked where I was from, originally). He was convinced I had "Turkish blood", and that *we'd* get the Ottoman empire back up and all the way to India!

Seriously, this was what he thought was appropriate to share with a random customer!

[hurtuv]

Yes, the bright yellow areas means that the phenotype is more common in this area (for this phenotype; it would be Northwest/Central India, Pakistan and Afghanistan which is strongly Iranian/Indic in nature that follows the Indo-Iranian/Indo-Aryan Steppic migrations) . Dark yellow areas like the one in Eastern Turkey means that it is rare/less common, but has a marginal/minimal influence in that area.

Yes, but those maps are bullshit anyway, many times phenotypes extend way beyond them

[Mortimer]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108835&d=1626347183

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Recently got sent these old photos by a friend, took photos of them and figured I'd pass it by you guys.

You've seen my present... state, you might as well compare and contrast with me, in my late '90s youth.

I think you look like me

[Pro.crasti.nation]

I think you look like me

Not too far off, I guess.

[hurtuv]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108835&d=1626347183

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108834&d=1626347145

Recently got sent these old photos by a friend, took photos of them and figured I'd pass it by you guys.

You've seen my present... state, you might as well compare and contrast with me, in my late '90s youth.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108836&d=1626347631

Your eye shape, especially as visible in the first photo, is somewhat common among Turks.
Not sure about classification, but I can see you passing from Turkey to the Indian subcontinent mainly. First guess would be Levantine.
I disagree that you looked more Indian when young. I think you passed bether further North and West back then.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

You eye shape, especially as visible in the first photo, is somewhat common among Turks.
Not sure about classification, but I can see you passing from Turkey to the Indian subcontinent mainly. First guess would be Levantine.
I disagree that you looked more Indian when young. I think you passed bether further North and West back then.

I guess the beard makes me look more middle eastern, these days. I definitely miss my hair. lol.

I thought I looked a little like the Hispanic (Mexican?) guy from CHiPS, in my first photo. Especially the hairstyle.

Anyway, it's interesting to read your thoughts on the matter. Thanks.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

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[Pro.crasti.nation]

Any more thoughts on the classification front?

[Kenshiro]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112365&d=1643570685

You are a mix of multiple Middle Eastern phenotypes, cool, among the specific countries i would say Mesopotamia, but also the Arabian Peninsula, the major countries where you pass for me are Syria, Jordan and Egypt :)

[Pro.crasti.nation]

You are a mix of multiple Middle Eastern phenotypes, cool, among the specific countries i would say Mesopotamia, but also the Arabian Peninsula, the major countries where you pass for me are Syria, Jordan and Egypt :)

lol, cool. I am going to lose the beard, sometime this year, then see if that makes a big difference.
I had an Egyptian Coptic friend, who kept telling me I looked like his people. lol.

[Kenshiro]

lol, cool. I am going to lose the beard, sometime this year, then see if that makes a big difference.
I had an Egyptian Coptic friend, who kept telling me I looked like his people. lol.
Yes, in fact you look better without a beard ahah

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Yes, in fact you look better without a beard ahah

lol. thanks!

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Bump. Anyone else wanna have a go?

I added some (current) photos, on pages 3 and 4. (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?349096-My-younger-self/page4)

[Pro.crasti.nation]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108835&d=1626347183

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108834&d=1626347145

Recently got sent these old photos by a friend, took photos of them and figured I'd pass it by you guys.

You've seen my present... state, you might as well compare and contrast with me, in my late '90s youth.

Does that nose look Semitic or just "Pakstani"/South Asian?

I do feel a little similarity with the /pol/ meme...