Belarusian Minority in NE Poland

[Peterski]

I found some kits of people who are Belarusians (or Poleshuks?) from North-East Poland.

Here is one example, born in Jacewicze - and both parents have East Slavic surnames:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacewicze

Eurogenes K13:
North_Atlantic 28.43 Pct
Baltic 46.9 Pct
West_Med 10.38 Pct
West_Asian 6.99 Pct
East_Med 3.36 Pct
Red_Sea 0.32 Pct
South_Asian 2.16 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.39 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.06 Pct

Eurogenes K15:
Population
North_Sea 21.19 Pct
Atlantic 16.13 Pct
Baltic 30.35 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.07 Pct
West_Med 6.39 Pct
West_Asian 3.19 Pct
East_Med 1.03 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.9 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.74 Pct

Interesting that results are western-shifted, and not so similar to Belarusians from Belarus.

Actually I'm not sure if this person can be classified as Belarusian, or as Poleshuk perhaps?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poleshuks

^^^ They spoke a dialect intermediate between Belarusian and Ukrainian.

[Rethel]

I found some kits of people who are Belarusians (or Poleshuks?) from North-East Poland.

Why do you expect them to be belarusian at all??? :rolleyes:

Podlasiuks, (those which you examined are originaly from Wolhynia) are
today totaly polonized and autosomaly should be the same as Podlasiaks.
Only Podlasians could be a slightly different autosomaly, but at present time
there could be only a few of them with such au, if they were distinct at all.

[Satem]

Polish genes strong, they made folksdojcze less dojcz almost no dojcz so in case of Belarusians it would the same, also we need to remeber that people from Polesie are mix of all and they could choose their identity. Ethnic Orthodox Pole could identify as tutejszy and then after change of borders Belarusian or Ukrainian depending where their village fall into

[Rethel]

from Polesie

It's Podlachia, not Polesia. :rolleyes:

[Peterski]

It's Podlachia, not Polesia. :rolleyes:

Nope. Bielsk is historically in West Polesia.

Edit:

Rethel is right. I mean Biała not Bielsk.

[Rethel]

Nope. Bielsk is historically in West Polesia.

:picard2:

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziemia_bielska

[Peterski]

:picard2:

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziemia_bielska

When looking at 1900 county borders (granice powiatów Kongresówki), I count as West Polesie:

Janów Podl.
Biała Podl.
Radzyń Podl.
Włodawa

And as Podlasie-Sudovia:

Suwałki
Augustów
Sejny (within modern Polish borders)
Szczuczyn
Sokółka
Białystok
Bielsk Podl.
Sokołów Podl.

CHECK HERE - https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?348896-Polish-Gedmatch-Results&p=7243559&viewfull=1#post7243559

Fragment of my map of regions (showing the northern portion of West Polesia):

https://i.imgur.com/4uIIghw.png

[Rethel]

When looking at 1900 county borders (granice powiatów Kongresówki), I count as West Polesie:
Janów Podl.
Biała Podl.
Radzyń Podl.
Włodawa
And as Podlasie-Sudovia:

Suwałki
Augustów
Sejny (within modern Polish borders)
Szczuczyn
Sokółka
Białystok
Bielsk Podl.
Sokołów Podl.
CHECK HERE - https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?348896-Polish-Gedmatch-Results&p=7243559&viewfull=1#post7243559
Fragment of my map of regions (showing the northern portion of West Polesia):

:picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2:

You added Bielsk as Podlachia. Look at your own map :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2:

And btw, this supposedly "west polesia" it is Podlachia too. Real Polesia it is only +/- a Turo-Pińsk principality.
Everything as far as Kobryń and Krzemieniec it is Podlachia. https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powiat_brzeskolitewski_(I_Rzeczpospolita)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-G-x61cziSrU/UfZb5HWNLfI/AAAAAAAALeg/sYwvhDpGbp0/s1600/Bez%C2%A0tytu%C5%82u.png

[Peterski]

:picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2:

You added Bielsk a Podlachia. Look at your own map :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2: :picard2:

Yeah sorry, I confused with Biała.:)


And btw, this supposedly "west polesia" it is Podlachia too.

Really? Why not Lubelszczyzna ???

[Rethel]

Really? Why not Lubelszczyzna ???

Becasue never was in Lubelskie, neither in Sandomirland.
Look at the link and at the map in my previous post.
Even the name Biała Podlaska, Janów Podlaski and
Międzyrzec Podlaski should suggest you some possibility...

[Satem]

It's Podlachia, not Polesia. :rolleyes:

I meant people from Pińsk, Prypeć area during Interwar period but whatever you say

[Peterski]

I meant people from Pińsk, Prypeć area during Interwar period

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polesie_Voivodeship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryszard_Kapu%C5%9Bci%C5%84ski

[Arūnas]

btw, one of my family members had a meat slaughterhouse about 80-100 km north of Minsk, give it to me back!
(back then the Villnius voivodeship)