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Ion Basescul
07-19-2021, 03:08 PM
These are the athletes who will represent us at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics. It's mostly composed of Moldovans/Romanians, but also some Ukrainians, Russians, and Gagauz/Bulgarians.

Moldovans/Romanians

1) Nisporeni (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/tOhhLUD.jpg

2) Straseni (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/VFUeK4f.png

3) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/w41Izr0.png

4) Anenii Noi (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/pc6SjQ2.png

5) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/iw8euAJ.png

6) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/wIorxp5.png

7) Hincesti (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/5V0mcaF.png

8) Causeni (Southern Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/bdVUufd.png

9) Hincesti (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/sr7J6oy.png

10) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/ALBH2nk.png

11) Floresti (Northern Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/xQQm7VI.png

12) Tiraspol (Transnistria)
https://i.imgur.com/HlrUUPI.png

13) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/6N9i9fr.png



Ethnic minorities

14) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/13LXEBH.png

15) Chisinau (Central Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/UpxMQfw.png

16) Gagauzia (Southern Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/gfYBzay.png

17) Leova (Southern Moldova)
https://i.imgur.com/hwQJCrl.png

18) Vladikavkaz (Russia)
https://i.imgur.com/cA0NarW.png

19) Vladikavkaz (Russia)
https://i.imgur.com/Y3caJAN.png

20) Tiraspol (Transnistria)
https://i.imgur.com/HIHx8J8.png

Zhulta
07-19-2021, 03:19 PM
some look mongoloid influenced to me (mostly Turanid), some of these women are really cute.

Hektor12
07-19-2021, 03:32 PM
Most of them pass here, if not all. Anna DULCE looks standart girl from my neighborhood.

Ion Basescul
07-19-2021, 03:38 PM
Most of them pass here, if not all. Anna DULCE looks standart girl from my neighborhood.

I thought she kind of looked Roma/Gypsy admixed, but you can't deduce that from the surname. In some photos she is dark, and I don't know if it's from sunbathing or natural. Also, maybe it's from the camera, but I don't know any Moldovan/Romanian with clear black eyes like in her case. Most with dark eyes have varying shades of brown, and you can easily see the brown part as opposed to the black pupil.

https://i.imgur.com/0rUU11r.png

ixulescu
07-19-2021, 03:48 PM
Moldovans fit better in Romania and Bulgaria, and ethnic minorities in Ukraine and Russia. However, there is a minority in both groups that fits better the other way around.

Hektor12
07-19-2021, 03:51 PM
I thought she kind of looked Roma/Gypsy admixed, but you can't deduce that from the surname. In some photos she is dark, and I don't know if it's from sunbathing or natural. Also, maybe it's from the camera, but I don't know any Moldovan/Romanian with clear black eyes like in her case. Most with dark eyes have varying shades of brown, and you can easily see the brown part as opposed to the black pupil.Imo its not roma. Her mouth area looking a little bit off but her eye area screams Turan. (: There are 2 types of girls here: fair and dark. She looks like the dark standart girl with Turanid component. Perhaps its "gedrosia" component from k12b? But western europeans also have that? I really dont know.

For skin, i recommend you this video :D an old man from eastern Anatolia.


https://youtu.be/G1LODAOtKgk

Ion Basescul
07-19-2021, 03:58 PM
Moldovans fit better in Romania and Bulgaria, and ethnic minorities in Ukraine and Russia. However, there is a minority in both groups that fits better the other way around.

Yes, I thought that Cilcic, Petrivskaya, Marghiev and Fisikovici from the minorities group could fit easily as Moldovans. Tarnovschi and Sancov too, but they are less typical for a Moldovan/Romanian. In a crowd nobody would bat an eye.
Emilianov though has very clear East Asian/Siberian influences of Uralid type, which are are different from the local East Asian/Siberian Turanid type.

Komintasavalta
07-19-2021, 03:58 PM
The canoe sprint girl looks pretty VUR:

https://infoicf.msl.es/webICF/img/bios/photos/0000075588.jpg

This ADMIXTURE run was interesting because two Moldovan samples got about 30-35% of the VUR component:

https://i.ibb.co/QCWnd9n/ternary-admixture-moldova.jpg

When I did another run without the VUR and Saami samples, two Moldovan samples got about 40% of the component that was maximal in Vepsians and Arkhangelsk Russians:

https://i.ibb.co/XV1zqk3/moldova-ternary-3.jpg

Nurzat
07-19-2021, 04:00 PM
Anna Dulce is so cute. her last name means "Sweet", which is also an unusual last name. her looks aren't common either but you do see such faces every now and then. maybe some extra Ottoman/Persian/Indian, who knows. good luck to all at the Olympics! I support Moldova over Romania xD of course I support Romania as well, but Moldova first, because of the name xD

Ion Basescul
07-19-2021, 04:01 PM
The canoe sprint girl looks pretty VUR:

https://infoicf.msl.es/webICF/img/bios/photos/0000075588.jpg

This ADMIXTURE run was interesting because two Moldovan samples got about 30-35% of the VUR component:

https://i.ibb.co/QCWnd9n/ternary-admixture-moldova.jpg

When I did another run without the VUR ans Saami samples, two Moldovan samples got about 40% of the component that was maximal in Vepsians and Arkhangelsk Russians:

https://i.ibb.co/XV1zqk3/moldova-ternary-3.jpg

Which samples are those? I mean it's pretty obvious that if you have 30 samples and 2-3 are significantly removed from the average, then something is foreign in their ancestry. Right now in Moldova 20% of the population are ethnic minorities, and very likely way more if you consider assimilation/integration.

Ion Basescul
07-19-2021, 04:03 PM
Anna Dulce is so cute. her last name means "Sweet", which is also an unusual last name. her looks aren't common either but you do see such faces every now and then. maybe some extra Ottoman/Persian/Indian, who knows. good luck to all at the Olympics! I support Moldova over Romania xD of course I support Romania as well, but Moldova first, because of the name xD

It's not a common surname.

In Moldova it occurs here:


Place
Incidence
Frequency
Rank in Area


Chișinău Municipality
33
1:23,717
3,602


Ungheni District
24
1:4,871
940


Florești District
15
1:5,986
1,047


Cahul District
10
1:12,404
2,028


Anenii Noi District
1
1:82,583
2,676


Călărași District
1
1:78,973
2,514


Cimișlia District
1
1:61,962
2,110


Edineț District
1
1:82,336
3,813


Fălești District
1
1:92,297
2,289


Hīncești District
1
1:121,682
2,014


Ialoveni District
1
1:98,888
1,818


Strășeni District
1
1:91,211
1,964



And in Romania here:


Place
Incidence
Frequency
Rank in Area


Călărași County
145
1:2,105
361


Prahova County
95
1:7,985
1,121


Bucharest Municipality
41
1:45,777
5,306


Constanța County
35
1:19,508
3,364


Iași County
28
1:27,475
4,229


Gorj County
4
1:85,206
4,343


Botoșani County
1
1:411,106
4,185


Vālcea County
1
1:370,256
4,382

Komintasavalta
07-19-2021, 04:55 PM
Which samples are those? I mean it's pretty obvious that if you have 30 samples and 2-3 are significantly removed from the average, then something is foreign in their ancestry. Right now in Moldova 20% of the population are ethnic minorities, and very likely way more if you consider assimilation/integration.

There were only 8 Moldovan samples in the runs I posted. There are a total of 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" in the 1240K+HO dataset, but I included at most 8 samples per population in the runs I posted. I hadn't saved the files of the earlier runs, but when I did a new run that included all 10 samples, the three samples that got the highest percentage of the Volga-Ural component were MOL-005 (36%), MOL-015 (33%), and MOL-069 (33%). The location of all 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" was listed as "Shtefan-Vodsky district, Kaplani". The source of the samples is Jeong et al. 2019 ("The genetic history of admixture across inner Eurasia") (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31036896/).

On G25, there's also a pretty huge level of diversity among the Moldovan samples. This shows a secondary PCA based on scaled G25 coordinates:

https://i.ibb.co/zs8HMQW/a.png

Ion Basescul
07-19-2021, 05:11 PM
There were only 8 Moldovan samples in the runs I posted. There are a total of 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" in the 1240K+HO dataset, but I included at most 8 samples per population in the runs I posted. I hadn't saved the files of the earlier runs, but when I did a new run that included all 10 samples, the three samples that got the highest percentage of the Volga-Ural component were MOL-005 (36%), MOL-015 (33%), and MOL-069 (33%). The location of all 10 samples with the population name "Moldavian" was listed as "Shtefan-Vodsky district, Kaplani". The source of the samples is Jeong et al. 2019 ("The genetic history of admixture across inner Eurasia") (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31036896/).

On G25, there's also a pretty huge level of diversity among the Moldovan samples. This shows a secondary PCA based on scaled G25 coordinates:



These are them in K13



F. Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


MOL-005
21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82


MOL-015
18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48


MOL-069
26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.18
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12



MOL-15 is the most Southern sample from Moldova labelled as Moldovan/Romanian that I have seen.
How do they score the Volga-Ural component if all of them score less East Asian/Siberian than the majority of Moldovans/Romanians? I am at the higher end scoring 4.6% for example.

Satem
07-20-2021, 02:59 PM
Alexandra Emilianov is my nightmare, no eyelids and square head, East Baltid predator

Davy Jones's Locker
08-18-2021, 01:39 PM
Moldovans/Romanians

Of the basic types (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?11365-What-does-a-basic-racial-typology-describe-in-Europe), I think Alpine and Mediterranean are dominant. The minorities look noticeably different.

Aaron Cook didn't make it huh.:swl