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Komintasavalta
07-25-2021, 03:17 PM
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Kirov Oblast is at the center of Komimaristan, between Mari El, Udmurtia, and Komi Republic:

https://i.imgur.com/UBd0Xpi.png

Arūnas
07-25-2021, 03:31 PM
she can defend her land against Moorish invasion
7/10

Komintasavalta
07-25-2021, 04:00 PM
she can defend her land against Moorish invasion
7/10

We can also use this technology developed by the Kirovians:

https://i.ibb.co/0f34j45/20210725185728.png

Then we will blast them with this Udmurt technology:

https://i.imgur.com/gKrC8Nf.png

Immanenz
07-25-2021, 04:02 PM
Terminator vibe

East Baltic- Uralisch

travv
07-25-2021, 04:11 PM
she can defend her land against Moorish invasion
7/10

+1.


https://i.imgur.com/BMLtaoq.jpg
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Nanushka
07-25-2021, 04:44 PM
Uralid but she has Fenno nordid elements (like her facial shape)

Cossack
07-25-2021, 05:08 PM
Savolaxid

Arūnas
07-25-2021, 06:23 PM
the name of this city is fckd, the proper name was Vyatka or Chlynov

travv
07-25-2021, 06:23 PM
She looks like girl from my first job. But she was from Vologda.

Komintasavalta
07-25-2021, 06:37 PM
the name of this city is fckd, the proper name was Vyatka or Chlynov

Wow, I didn't know that Kirov (Khlynov) was originally an Udmurt town (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/История_Кировской_области):


In the 7th - 10th centuries, the first nationalities were formed on the Vyatka land. By the beginning of the II millennium A.D. NS. the tribes of the Mari, Udmurts and Komi were formed. Throughout the territory of the Upper Kama interfluve, a network of Udmurt settlements appears, concentrated about two centers - first the southern (right bank of the middle Kama), and then the northern (the area between the Cheptsa River and the middle Vyatka), where the Udmurts moved, which later became the basis for the future city Khlynov. [...]

Local written legends speak of the arrival of two detachments of Novgorodians to Vyatka. According to legend, in 1181 a detachment of Novgorodians seized the "Bolvansky town", which was inhabited by "Otyaks and Chud", which stood on the right bank of the Vyatka near the Cheptsa River, settled in it, and renamed it Nikulitsyn [5]. Another detachment captured the town of Koksharov, renaming it Kotelnich. After an unnamed time, both detachments united and created a common city of Khlynov [6].

> "And having chosen a place beautifully above the Vyatka River near the mouth of the Khlynovitsy River on a high mountain, what is now called Kikimorskaya, the place is more convenient for general settlement and from this mountain the sources of waters flowing out of the mountains are glorious.
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> And by general agreement, at the appointed time, the people of the Novgorodians, who had come together on this mountain, began to build a city a place to build and prepare a tree for a location to create a city. And in the morning, having acquired some kind of divine providence, all the production was carried along the Vyatka river below to a higher, more spacious place and a wide field, like at that time the Balyasko field was being transformed. The residents of Novgorod, with all their retinue, pray to the Lord God and His Mother of God the Most Holy Theotokos for showing the place for the building of the city by sending praise and singing prayers.
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> And in that place, at the beginning, I set up a church in the name of the Exaltation of the honest and life-giving cross of the Lord and the city of arranging and naming it the Khlynov city of the river for the sake of Khlynovitsa [7]."

Mass migration to the territory of the Vyatka Territory begins after the Tatar-Mongol invasion: people, fleeing from the destructive invasion, moved further to the North.

I wonder who were the people who were called Chuds in the legend.

Veslan
07-25-2021, 07:47 PM
Uralic

Nanushka
07-25-2021, 08:02 PM
I wonder who were the people who were called Chuds in the legend.

In a movie I watched called Ofelas (Pathfinder-1987) were they the invaders and the enemies of the Saami, but when I asked about them I was told that they were a tribe of Finns and Finnic tribes always fought one another in those times. Maybe you already know the movie:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnEBAkEt6XI

Komintasavalta
07-25-2021, 08:48 PM
Maybe the Chudes were Komis, because some authors said that the Vyatka region was a province of Perm, or that the land of Perm was called land of the Chudes (http://a-musikhin.narod.ru/History/Istved.files/Ustyuzh.htm):


Even in the analyzed Ustyug news, the phrase "inhabited in the Perm province" is remarkable. A.V. Emmaussky understood these words "only in this way: the Novgorodians settled in the Perm land, that is, somewhere on the Kama." In his opinion, this phrase coincides with the PSV message about the construction of a "small town" by Novgorodians on the Kama River [36]. L.D. Makarov supports this opinion [37]. Nizov believes that "Ya.Ya. Frieze has preserved for science the most unique news about entering the XIV century. the Finno-Ugric population of the Middle Vyatka basin in the cultural and geographical formation "Perm land" [38]. However, this phrase may well belong to I. Ya. Frieze, since from the second half of the 1700s, the opinion about the entry of Vyatka into the Perm land in the scientific community was very widespread. N.P. Rychkov, for example, wrote that "the Vyatka country comprised the ancient regions of the Chyuda, Votsky and Cheremisky people.... This area itself is common with all the Perm limits was called land of the Chudes" [39]. N.M. Karamzin: "The name of our Perm is one with the name of the ancient Biarmia, which was composed of the Arkhangelsk, Vologda, Vyatka and Perm provinces" [40]. By the way, V.V. Nizov notes that this "opinion about the northern ethnogeography of the late XIV century.... Many pre-revolutionary researchers found... very convincing " [41].

http://a-musikhin.narod.ru/History/Istved.files/Ustyuzh.htm:


In the "Guide to the historical and physical description of the regional city of Ustyug the Great", compiled in 1791-1793, head Physician, corresponding member of the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences Ya. Ya. Frieze (d. 1801), under 1375 it is reported:

> Novgorod residents, having sailed past Ustyug on 70 ships, continued their march up the South, and, having moved from the onago to the Volga, sailed down along it, and then up the Kama, where they, having settled in the Perm province, built the city of Khlynov [1].


In a movie I watched called Ofelas (Pathfinder-1987) were they the invaders and the enemies of the Saami, but when I asked about them I am told that they were a tribe of Finns and Finnic tribes always fought one another in those times. Maybe you already know the movie:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnEBAkEt6XI

Yeah, the term Chud was used of Baltic Finnic people, but I don't know if it could also refer to other Uralic people.

I didn't know that film, but the Saami lead actor (Mikkel Gaup) looks über-Ürälische:

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/H88BWY/pathfinder-die-rache-des-fhrtensuchers-ofelas-veiviseren-nor-1988-H88BWY.jpg

placebo
07-25-2021, 08:55 PM
uralid

Salty Ears
07-26-2021, 06:14 AM
Exotic for Vyatka city, but not for some parts of former Vyatka governorate.