Proto magyar autosomal dna

[Italicus]

Hey everyone, I was wondering what Proto Magyars would look like on a k13 run. Thanks!

[Arzanene]

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on Eurogenes k13 hungarian samples broken down gives a small amount of Bashkir. proto magyars were probably like Khanty Mansi peoples but eurogenes k13 doesn't have those population samples. G25 has Khany Mansi and breaks them down to these populations.

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the Magyar samples on g25 show mordovian, chuvash, Udmurt instead as the Ugrian admixture

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[Dunai]

Hmm, I remember a couple months ago seeing several Conquest Era Hungarian results from a Polish user I believe, but apparently they were based on really low number of SNPs, so I don't know how reliable they are, but they looked more similar to modern populations living in the Ural region.

[Kaspias]

https://i.ibb.co/kJf3jmr/n-Macarlar.png


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[Dunai]

https://i.ibb.co/kJf3jmr/n-Macarlar.png


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Are both elite and commoner samples included, because as a whole these individuals look all over the place and seems to show how varied and dissimilar Conquerors were?

[vbnetkhio]

Are both elite and commoner samples included, because as a whole these individuals look all over the place and seems to show how varied and dissimilar Conquerors were?

according to the study they are mostly elite: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53105-5/figures/1

however they are very low quality. here on pages 3 and 4 I tried to merge the samples in different ways to get more reliable results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?345575-Hun-Avar-and-conquering-Hungarian-results-Vahaduo-K13/page3

I also plan to merge them with files from the other Hungarian conqueror studies one day. they are also very low quality.

[Dunai]

according to the study they are mostly elite: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53105-5/figures/1

however they are very low quality. here on pages 3 and 4 I tried to merge the samples in different ways to get more reliable results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?345575-Hun-Avar-and-conquering-Hungarian-results-Vahaduo-K13/page3

I also plan to merge them with files from the other Hungarian conqueror studies one day. they are also very low quality.

What could be the reason for the low quality? I believe it would be very useful to add Magyar Conqueror averages to Vahaduo calculators so looking forward to what you produce.

[vbnetkhio]

What could be the reason for the low quality? I believe it would be very useful to add Magyar Conqueror averages to Vahaduo calculators so looking forward to what you produce.

these were studies focused on y-dna and mtdna, they just tested a low number of autosomes to check if any of the samples are close relatives, and basic admixture compostion (african/asian/european).

[Lucas]

I extracted them, yes merging them to few kits would be a good idea. Not one as they are too varied.