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Figaro
08-05-2021, 10:16 PM
Friend of mine who is originally from southern Virginia. Has the quite stereotypical Brit/German (also maybe Swiss) blend. Thought some of you may be interested in seeing.

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El_Jibaro
08-05-2021, 10:24 PM
Cool results.

SouthDutch7991
08-06-2021, 06:12 PM
Not Genoplot (no credits, I'm not paying) but here are my gedmatch Eurogenes k13 results. I wonder how this matches up with other southern US whites. My known ancestry is almost all colonial British Isles, of which the vast majority is English, and two pre-civil war german immigrants. This is not reflected in any admix calculators in my experience, but commercial estimates and MDLP seem to think its there.

North_Atlantic 46.32 Pct
Baltic 23.3 Pct
West_Med 16.17 Pct
West_Asian 4.01 Pct
East_Med 5.89 Pct
Red_Sea 1.19 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.73 Pct
Siberian 0.23 Pct
Amerindian 0.86 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.3 Pct


# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.43
2 Southeast_English 4.81
3 West_German 4.96
4 Southwest_English 6.19
5 Orcadian 6.57
6 North_Dutch 7.29
7 North_German 7.42
8 Danish 7.62
9 Irish 7.78
10 West_Scottish 8.1
11 French 8.17
12 Norwegian 9.43
13 Swedish 10.46
14 Austrian 10.67
15 East_German 11.51
16 North_Swedish 15.08
17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.25
18 Hungarian 15.39
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.38
20 Spanish_Galicia 16.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.5% Swedish + 40.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.63
2 63.5% Swedish + 36.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.71
3 63.9% Swedish + 36.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.74
4 63.8% Norwegian + 36.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.75
5 63.5% Swedish + 36.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.79
6 61.2% Swedish + 38.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.8
7 64.3% Norwegian + 35.7% Portuguese @ 1.84
8 65.1% Swedish + 34.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.85
9 66.6% Norwegian + 33.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.93
10 62% Swedish + 38% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.93
11 62.1% Norwegian + 37.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.96
12 66.2% Swedish + 33.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.99
13 66% Norwegian + 34% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.99
14 63.8% Norwegian + 36.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.02
15 83% Norwegian + 17% Sardinian @ 2.09
16 86.6% North_Dutch + 13.4% Sardinian @ 2.1
17 64.3% Swedish + 35.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.11
18 66.1% Norwegian + 33.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.15
19 68.7% Norwegian + 31.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.24
20 70.1% North_Dutch + 29.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.26

J. Ketch
08-07-2021, 01:07 AM
Not Genoplot (no credits, I'm not paying) but here are my gedmatch Eurogenes k13 results. I wonder how this matches up with other southern US whites. My known ancestry is almost all colonial British Isles, of which the vast majority is English, and two pre-civil war german immigrants. This is not reflected in any admix calculators in my experience, but commercial estimates and MDLP seem to think its there.

North_Atlantic 46.32 Pct
Baltic 23.3 Pct
West_Med 16.17 Pct
West_Asian 4.01 Pct
East_Med 5.89 Pct
Red_Sea 1.19 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.73 Pct
Siberian 0.23 Pct
Amerindian 0.86 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.3 Pct


These are averages for multi-generational Whites from US Southern states (North Atlantic, Baltic, West Med, etc)


US_South,48.77,22.89,14.00,5.58,4.52,0.79,1.01,0.1 5,0.31,0.70,0.41,0.29,0.50
US_Alabama,49.07,23.55,14.09,5.57,3.60,0.75,0.95,0 .22,0.36,0.67,0.39,0.22,0.48
US_Arkansas,49.51,23.94,13.24,5.31,4.21,0.54,1.31, 0.05,0.26,0.89,0.31,0.12,0.24
US_Georgia,48.94,23.07,13.61,6.04,4.01,0.87,1.05,0 .05,0.38,0.70,0.40,0.30,0.50
US_Kentucky,49.23,22.99,13.89,5.54,4.29,0.67,0.88, 0.19,0.34,0.77,0.32,0.40,0.42
US_Louisiana,45.81,20.43,16.85,4.84,7.11,1.88,0.75 ,0.32,0.18,0.85,0.42,0.22,0.27
US_Mississippi,50.29,22.58,13.21,5.87,4.10,0.44,1. 13,0.17,0.42,0.72,0.38,0.16,0.44
US_North_Carolina,48.64,22.25,13.72,5.79,4.68,0.88 ,1.25,0.13,0.27,0.50,0.65,0.31,0.84
US_South_Carolina,47.70,22.81,14.22,5.51,5.02,1.06 ,0.89,0.30,0.24,0.59,0.53,0.53,0.55
US_Tennessee,48.91,22.67,14.08,5.73,4.57,0.70,0.71 ,0.24,0.28,0.74,0.45,0.27,0.57
US_Texas,48.35,22.72,14.26,5.62,5.01,0.75,1.04,0.2 1,0.25,0.74,0.46,0.25,0.26
US_Virginia,49.07,22.94,13.97,5.92,3.70,0.79,1.01, 0.06,0.32,0.56,0.34,0.38,0.88
US_West_Virginia,47.56,22.41,14.24,6.14,5.27,0.91, 1.31,0.08,0.21,0.75,0.32,0.38,0.36

Leto
08-07-2021, 01:21 PM
My known ancestry is almost all colonial British Isles, of which the vast majority is English, and two pre-civil war german immigrants.
In other words you're not Dutch at all :)

At what point did your family become Roman Catholic? Just curious 'cause your self-described background is WASP.

Luke35
08-07-2021, 01:57 PM
Not Genoplot (no credits, I'm not paying) but here are my gedmatch Eurogenes k13 results. I wonder how this matches up with other southern US whites. My known ancestry is almost all colonial British Isles, of which the vast majority is English, and two pre-civil war german immigrants. This is not reflected in any admix calculators in my experience, but commercial estimates and MDLP seem to think its there.

North_Atlantic 46.32 Pct
Baltic 23.3 Pct
West_Med 16.17 Pct
West_Asian 4.01 Pct
East_Med 5.89 Pct
Red_Sea 1.19 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.73 Pct
Siberian 0.23 Pct
Amerindian 0.86 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.3 Pct


# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.43
2 Southeast_English 4.81
3 West_German 4.96
4 Southwest_English 6.19
5 Orcadian 6.57

Looks similar to my mother, even though she is all German, with one English great-grandparent. One can see how close English and German can look on a K13 breakdown. 23andMe had no problem picking her out as massively German though.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.35
2 Baltic 23.78
3 West_Med 13.84
4 East_Med 7.26
5 West_Asian 6.36
6 Red_Sea 1.09
7 South_Asian 1.07
8 Oceanian 0.36
9 Sub-Saharan 0.36
10 Northeast_African 0.29
11 Amerindian 0.13
12 Siberian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 2.54
2 West_German 2.79
3 Southeast_English 5.28
4 North_German 5.49
5 Danish 6.61
6 North_Dutch 6.66
7 Orcadian 6.96
8 Southwest_English 7.31
9 Irish 7.96
10 West_Scottish 8.47
11 French 8.61
12 Norwegian 9
13 Austrian 9.01
14 Swedish 9.74
15 East_German 10.25
16 Hungarian 13.62
17 North_Swedish 14.24
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.39
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.58
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.64

SouthDutch7991
08-07-2021, 09:42 PM
In other words you're not Dutch at all :)

At what point did your family become Roman Catholic? Just curious 'cause your self-described background is WASP.

It's funny isn't it? Well, my dad was a southern baptist, and my moms dad was an Anglican. Both were converted in series first by my moms mom, then of course my dad was convinced by my mom. I have ONE great-great-grandmother on my moms side who immigrated from Ireland before the Civil War, and somehow Catholicism kept bumping off the protestant denominations as it was passed down the family. And so you get to me, with a family tree which is 93.75% protestant, yet I was baptized and raised Roman Catholic.

I'm not dutch, not on paper at least and I've confirmed through DNA matches 100% of my family tree after 1800, but I always get plotted in the Netherlands on coordinate maps and I thought it was funny, so I kept it as a name. Well, actually, I should be some small percent dutch from a colonial ancestor somewhere, but it doesn't show up.

SouthDutch7991
08-07-2021, 10:00 PM
These are averages for multi-generational Whites from US Southern states (North Atlantic, Baltic, West Med, etc)


US_South,48.77,22.89,14.00,5.58,4.52,0.79,1.01,0.1 5,0.31,0.70,0.41,0.29,0.50
US_Alabama,49.07,23.55,14.09,5.57,3.60,0.75,0.95,0 .22,0.36,0.67,0.39,0.22,0.48
US_Arkansas,49.51,23.94,13.24,5.31,4.21,0.54,1.31, 0.05,0.26,0.89,0.31,0.12,0.24
US_Georgia,48.94,23.07,13.61,6.04,4.01,0.87,1.05,0 .05,0.38,0.70,0.40,0.30,0.50
US_Kentucky,49.23,22.99,13.89,5.54,4.29,0.67,0.88, 0.19,0.34,0.77,0.32,0.40,0.42
US_Louisiana,45.81,20.43,16.85,4.84,7.11,1.88,0.75 ,0.32,0.18,0.85,0.42,0.22,0.27
US_Mississippi,50.29,22.58,13.21,5.87,4.10,0.44,1. 13,0.17,0.42,0.72,0.38,0.16,0.44
US_North_Carolina,48.64,22.25,13.72,5.79,4.68,0.88 ,1.25,0.13,0.27,0.50,0.65,0.31,0.84
US_South_Carolina,47.70,22.81,14.22,5.51,5.02,1.06 ,0.89,0.30,0.24,0.59,0.53,0.53,0.55
US_Tennessee,48.91,22.67,14.08,5.73,4.57,0.70,0.71 ,0.24,0.28,0.74,0.45,0.27,0.57
US_Texas,48.35,22.72,14.26,5.62,5.01,0.75,1.04,0.2 1,0.25,0.74,0.46,0.25,0.26
US_Virginia,49.07,22.94,13.97,5.92,3.70,0.79,1.01, 0.06,0.32,0.56,0.34,0.38,0.88
US_West_Virginia,47.56,22.41,14.24,6.14,5.27,0.91, 1.31,0.08,0.21,0.75,0.32,0.38,0.36

Those are all closer to all the British Isles than any other groups, yet very strangely I'm still closer to dutch/flemish/belgian on Oracles, and very southern shifted compared to English. My father even more so!. I can't really understand why my coordinates on G25 and eurogenes are so southern shifted, when my paper trail is so heavily old southern USA, and my commercial estimates all put me and my dad at 80-90% British isles as I would expect. Ancestry and MyHeritage put both me and my dad in the Virginia centered Genetic Communities, almost all of our matches come from the south too! So I don't think my estimation is wrong, and I know my paper trail is very well confirmed through DNA matches and otherwise, all I can surmise is that A) I somehow consistently have all my English ancestors from a very continentally mixed group to the extreme southeast, B) the reference populations for Eurogenes and G25 are all wrong (unlikely) or C) my GEDmatch kit was bungled by software somewhere along the way.

None of these answers seem very plausible. Just look at my dads kit and tell me if this could possibly be English results. What the fuck does it mean?
South_dad,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0,1. 28,0,0,0,0.96

J. Ketch
08-07-2021, 10:29 PM
Those are all closer to all the British Isles than any other groups, yet very strangely I'm still closer to dutch/flemish/belgian on Oracles, and very southern shifted compared to English. My father even more so!. I can't really understand why my coordinates on G25 and eurogenes are so southern shifted, when my paper trail is so heavily old southern USA, and my commercial estimates all put me and my dad at 80-90% British isles as I would expect. Ancestry and MyHeritage put both me and my dad in the Virginia centered Genetic Communities, almost all of our matches come from the south too! So I don't think my estimation is wrong, and I know my paper trail is very well confirmed through DNA matches and otherwise, all I can surmise is that A) I somehow consistently have all my English ancestors from a very continentally mixed group to the extreme southeast, B) the reference populations for Eurogenes and G25 are all wrong (unlikely) or C) my GEDmatch kit was bungled by software somewhere along the way.

None of these answers seem very plausible. Just look at my dads kit and tell me if this could possibly be English results. What the fuck does it mean?
South_dad,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0,1. 28,0,0,0,0.96
Your score is within the range of English results, however your father's score is very German, I haven't seen a fully English person with North Atlantic that low in hundreds of kits. Anyway if the commercial tests as well as your genealogy say you're overwhelmingly British there's no reason to doubt it. What's clear is that both you and White Southerners generally have some non-British Isles admix that makes them plot a bit differently.

SouthDutch7991
08-07-2021, 10:35 PM
Your score is within the range of English results, however your father's score is very German, I haven't seen a fully English person with North Atlantic that low in hundreds of kits. Anyway if the commercial tests as well as your genealogy say you're overwhelmingly British there's no reason to doubt it. What's clear is that both you and White Southerners generally have some non-British Isles admix that makes them plot a bit differently.

My Dad should be just about the same amount British Isles than myself, so i don't understand it. Here's the funniest thing of all. According to paper trails, my maternal grandmother should be the LEAST british isles of all my grandparents, yet her k13 results are the only ones plotting her at more than 50% British isles! Her commercial tests as well give the lowest results I've seen in the family. I'm definitely not going to say my paper trail is wrong based on GEDmatch, but it does make me wonder.

South_MGM,49.72,19.66,16.16,8.92,3.46,0,0.35,0.46, 0,0,0.84,0.13,0.3

J. Ketch
08-07-2021, 10:36 PM
Your score is within the range of English results, however your father's score is very German, I haven't seen a fully English person with North Atlantic that low in hundreds of kits. Anyway if the commercial tests as well as your genealogy say you're overwhelmingly British there's no reason to doubt it. What's clear is that both you and White Southerners generally have some non-British Isles admix that makes them plot a bit differently.
Although now that I think about it a former Apricity member's English mother also had a very low North Atlantic, so maybe it's not too far fetched.

Jackson_mother(english),42.77,24.43,14.55,8.96,6.1 5,0,1.73,0,0,0,0.78,0,0.63

SouthDutch7991
08-07-2021, 10:43 PM
Although now that I think about it a former Apricity member's English mother also had a very low North Atlantic, so maybe it's not too far fetched.

Jackson_mother(english),42.77,24.43,14.55,8.96,6.1 5,0,1.73,0,0,0,0.78,0,0.63

I won't use an outlier to prove against the rule though. But most strangely, if you plug her numbers into vahaduo she is given significantly more British Isles than any of my family members, including my Grandfather. I'll just list the ones tested here:

Moms_dad,51.76,25.12,10.75,3.79,4.79,0.19,0.92,0.4 1,0,0,0.38,1.58,0.31
Moms_mom,49.72,19.66,16.16,8.92,3.46,0,0.35,0.46,0 ,0,0.84,0.13,0.3

Dad,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0,1.28,0,0 ,0,0.96
Dads_mom,42.45,25.46,18.03,5.74,4.08,1.42,1.24,0.5 4,0,0.25,0,0,0.8

Myself,46.32,23.3,16.17,4.01,5.89,1.19,0.00,0.73,0 .23,0.86,0.00,0.00,1.3

My Atlantic score makes sense as an average between them, but my Dad's Dad would have to be lower than him, for my dad to get the score he does. Strange, when he should be more English than anyone including my Mom's dad.

Luke35
08-07-2021, 10:58 PM
I won't use an outlier to prove against the rule though. But most strangely, if you plug her numbers into vahaduo she is given significantly more British Isles than any of my family members, including my Grandfather. I'll just list the ones tested here:

Moms_dad,51.76,25.12,10.75,3.79,4.79,0.19,0.92,0.4 1,0,0,0.38,1.58,0.31
Moms_mom,49.72,19.66,16.16,8.92,3.46,0,0.35,0.46,0 ,0,0.84,0.13,0.3

Dad,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0,1.28,0,0 ,0,0.96
Dads_mom,42.45,25.46,18.03,5.74,4.08,1.42,1.24,0.5 4,0,0.25,0,0,0.8

Myself,46.32,23.3,16.17,4.01,5.89,1.19,0.00,0.73,0 .23,0.86,0.00,0.00,1.3

My Atlantic score makes sense as an average between them, but my Dad's Dad would have to be lower than him, for my dad to get the score he does. Strange, when he should be more English than anyone including my Mom's dad.

I have noticed that when there is overlapping ancestry (both parents English for example), there is less consistency in how even a given component is split in the child. Your grandfather may not have had a lower NA than your father, in fact it could be the same as his or higher.

Conversely, I have found that when there is less overlap in ancestry, the individual components seem to get split a bit more evenly.

How do you score with Eurogenes K15? It's a good calc too, and may be more reliable for you.

J. Ketch
08-07-2021, 11:04 PM
I won't use an outlier to prove against the rule though. But most strangely, if you plug her numbers into vahaduo she is given significantly more British Isles than any of my family members, including my Grandfather. I'll just list the ones tested here:

Moms_dad,51.76,25.12,10.75,3.79,4.79,0.19,0.92,0.4 1,0,0,0.38,1.58,0.31
Moms_mom,49.72,19.66,16.16,8.92,3.46,0,0.35,0.46,0 ,0,0.84,0.13,0.3

Dad,41.98,26.72,18.13,3.55,4.4,2.1,0.86,0,1.28,0,0 ,0,0.96
Dads_mom,42.45,25.46,18.03,5.74,4.08,1.42,1.24,0.5 4,0,0.25,0,0,0.8

Myself,46.32,23.3,16.17,4.01,5.89,1.19,0.00,0.73,0 .23,0.86,0.00,0.00,1.3

My Atlantic score makes sense as an average between them, but my Dad's Dad would have to be lower than him, for my dad to get the score he does. Strange, when he should be more English than anyone including my Mom's dad.
Individual calculator scores often don't make a lot of sense. Anyway, you are most similar to Norb from SE England out of the members here.

Distance to: SouthDutch7991
2.94300866 Norb(English)
3.47059073 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
3.48117796 Gooding(American)
3.51125334 Jingorex(American)
3.54666040 Jackson_aunt(English)
3.71725705 acbrasil(Brazilian)
4.00602047 InfamousAngel99(American)
4.02997519 Rędwald(English-French_Canadian)
4.17268499 Allenson(New_Englander)
4.17730775 Mr.G_mother(German_American)
4.18644240 wisteria(American)
4.21246958 TribalSky(English)
4.33827155 frankhammer(British_New_Zealander)
4.44174515 Morticia(American)
4.59521490 Inf99Dad(American)
4.72349447 **JC**(British-German_Australian)
4.75150502 Skeleton(American)
4.77822143 Jackson(English)
4.79956248 Jackson_father(English)
4.81377191 nittionia(American)
4.89223875 Skeleton_father(American)
4.94288377 Celestia(American)
4.94321758 Xila(French)
5.18414892 Davystayn(British)
5.18720541 Centurion(French)


Norb(English),47.16,23.30,16.45,3.93,7.32,0,1.07,0 ,0.78,0,0,0,0

SouthDutch7991
08-07-2021, 11:13 PM
Individual calculator scores often don't make a lot of sense. Anyway, you are most similar to Norb from SE England out of the members here.

Distance to: SouthDutch7991
2.94300866 Norb(English)
3.47059073 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
3.48117796 Gooding(American)
3.51125334 Jingorex(American)
3.54666040 Jackson_aunt(English)
3.71725705 acbrasil(Brazilian)
4.00602047 InfamousAngel99(American)
4.02997519 Rędwald(English-French_Canadian)
4.17268499 Allenson(New_Englander)
4.17730775 Mr.G_mother(German_American)
4.18644240 wisteria(American)
4.21246958 TribalSky(English)
4.33827155 frankhammer(British_New_Zealander)
4.44174515 Morticia(American)
4.59521490 Inf99Dad(American)
4.72349447 **JC**(British-German_Australian)
4.75150502 Skeleton(American)
4.77822143 Jackson(English)
4.79956248 Jackson_father(English)
4.81377191 nittionia(American)
4.89223875 Skeleton_father(American)
4.94288377 Celestia(American)
4.94321758 Xila(French)
5.18414892 Davystayn(British)
5.18720541 Centurion(French)


Norb(English),47.16,23.30,16.45,3.93,7.32,0,1.07,0 ,0.78,0,0,0,0

That's interesting to see. I guess it's not too out of the ballpark then for slightly admixed British Isles, and it should be primarily southeast English from what I know of migration statistics of the colonial U.S.

SouthDutch7991
08-07-2021, 11:14 PM
I have noticed that when there is overlapping ancestry (both parents English for example), there is less consistency in how even a given component is split in the child. Your grandfather may not have had a lower NA than your father, in fact it could be the same as his or higher.

Conversely, I have found that when there is less overlap in ancestry, the individual components seem to get split a bit more evenly.

How do you score with Eurogenes K15? It's a good calc too, and may be more reliable for you.

Hardly any difference.
Myself,33.12,25.31,12.61,8.27,12.08,2.05,3.18,1.28 ,0.00,0.27,0.00,0.6,0.00,0.00,1.24

J. Ketch
08-07-2021, 11:24 PM
That's interesting to see. I guess it's not too out of the ballpark then for slightly admixed British Isles, and it should be primarily southeast English from what I know of migration statistics of the colonial U.S.
Yes, it seems that way by the results Anglo-Americans get. Or Southern English generally.

Figaro
08-07-2021, 11:28 PM
Heh, the conversation hasn’t been about my friend in some time, but I can dig the conversation. Also: on 23andme my buddy here scores 11% Italian (unspecified regions)...I assume it’s likely due to southern German and/or possible Swiss ancestry in him.

Luke35
08-07-2021, 11:34 PM
Heh, the conversation hasn’t been about my friend in some time, but I can dig the conversation. Also: on 23andme my buddy here scores 11% Italian (unspecified regions)...I assume it’s likely due to southern German and/or possible Swiss ancestry in him.

Sorry about that, Corded.

Can you detail his 23andme breakdown, please?

SouthDutch7991
08-08-2021, 12:06 AM
Heh, the conversation hasn’t been about my friend in some time, but I can dig the conversation. Also: on 23andme my buddy here scores 11% Italian (unspecified regions)...I assume it’s likely due to southern German and/or possible Swiss ancestry in him.

I think a good portion of southern German has to be heavily italian shifted form the HRE times, if not german-speaking north italians altogether. Didn't mean to be such an attention hog lol.

Figaro
08-08-2021, 12:07 AM
Sorry about that, Corded.

Can you detail his 23andme breakdown, please?

No worries, just messin’ around. I’ll post his 23andme results tonight when I can get behind a laptop.

SouthDutch7991
08-08-2021, 12:10 AM
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SouthDutch7991
08-11-2021, 04:07 PM
Friend of mine who is originally from southern Virginia. Has the quite stereotypical Brit/German (also maybe Swiss) blend. Thought some of you may be interested in seeing.

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I guess this should have been asked earlier, but how many generations back is his most recent immigrant ancestor? It looks very much like old U.S. south to me.

Figaro
08-30-2021, 07:56 PM
Here's his 23andMe AC breakdown. Sorry, will need to type this one out due to current technical difficulties:

British and Irish: 71.5% (various English, Scottish, and Irish locations specified)
French and German: 14.1% (Rhineland, Germany and Switzerland specified)
Broadly NW Euro: 2.8%
Italian: 11.6% (unspecified regions)

Friend Haplos:
Ydna: R1b-Y4010
mtDNA: H

Figaro
08-30-2021, 08:10 PM
I assume the Italian is coming off the Med-shifted parts of Swiss blood.

Figaro
08-30-2021, 08:12 PM
I guess this should have been asked earlier, but how many generations back is his most recent immigrant ancestor? It looks very much like old U.S. south to me.

Nothing very recent. The British in him is obviously colonial...the German/Swiss parts of him, he was not sure.

Figaro
08-30-2021, 08:32 PM
I bought him a Global25 some time back as well- nearly forgot that I did that! Here's Davidski's own modeling of my friend. Seems to want to model him as more Irish than English/Scottish, while the reality is he is probably more English/Scottish. Not sure why he chose that. A couple of his ancestral names May be Irish or Anglo-Irish. Others seem very English, although I suppose those could just be Anglicized as well. This guy is from NewPort News Virginia with deeper roots in nearbye parts of VA/NC/TN. Not areas with a ton of Irish Catholic settlement. Who knows, though.

Target: CordedFriend_scaled
Distance: 4.5764% / 0.04576435
Aggregated
46.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
44.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.2 WHG

Target: CordedFriend_scaled
Distance: 1.5710% / 0.01570962
Aggregated
45.8 Irish
25.8 Swiss_German
15.4 Swiss_French
7.8 Swiss_Italian
3.8 English
1.4 Scottish