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Sebbo
10-21-2011, 09:03 PM
This thread is for the purpose of discussing the Old Prussians, a baltic people who inhabited what is now Lithuania, Kaliningrad oblast ( Russia) and part of Northern Poland.

I wonder how much of their culture survived, and if any at all was absorbed by the Germans who settled there. I also wonder how much baltic blood was absorbed by the Germans, below is a link, ( In German but easy to read using google translate) which discusses the ethnic make up and population of East Prussia throughout the last 800 years or so.


http://www.prussen.org/index.html

I would be grateful if any one , ( Perhaps our German and Lithuanian members will be of use) could find out if the East Prussians were more baltic in their genetic makeup than Germanic, or at least different from other northern Germans. ( Higher incident of haplogroup N perhaps) I hope that this thread is a sucessful venture.

Mordid
10-21-2011, 09:15 PM
Hey, Sebbo, what's up? Long time no speak.

Prussia, where your ancestors came from is located in what is now parts of Germany and Poland. This is a link to a brief history of Prussia, if you are interested. (http://history-world.org/prussia.htm)
Prussia possessed vast territories inhabited by ethnic Poles, Sorbs, Masurians and other Slavic peoples. We can guess that Slavic and Baltic components within Prussian population were quite high due to a few waves of assimilation campaigns. No one can tell you the exact figure now. However, I know a tricky way which can help us to make a rough guess about how the German and Slavic ethnic groups merged with each other in the area of interest. We know that German ethnicity is associated with haplogroup R1b (44.5% in Germany) when Slavic one with R1a (56.5% in Poland; 46% in Russia). We can find Slavic R1a haplougroup up to 9% among Germans of West Germany with up to 24% among Germans of East and North Germany (partly former Western Prussian possessions).
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml