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reboun
08-17-2021, 06:46 PM
And, can you also give some population examples who are more northern/southern/eastern/western shifted with respect to their geographical positions?

Art23
08-17-2021, 07:09 PM
I think that southern Italians who have tons of Middle Eastern admixture can be seen as eastern-shofted, but northern Italians aren't eastern-shifted at all.

Avgvstvs
08-17-2021, 07:11 PM
Depends on what you mean.

North italians are absolutely western, central italians and also south italians would be more "eastern shifted" but actually they aren't imo. Many south italians plot with greeks(southern greece and islands especially if I am not mistaken) and to me it makes sense. South italians from areas like Abruzzo/Molise will plot more north, closer to the rest of Greece.


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mitalit
08-17-2021, 07:23 PM
I dont think so

wvwvw
08-17-2021, 07:51 PM
No they match their geographical position pretty good.

Latinus
08-17-2021, 09:07 PM
Northern Italians are more eastern shifted than Iberians, but also closer to them than to Southern Italians, and consequently more western/northern shifted than the latter.

But most of the Italian population is not of Southern Italian origin, but northern, so they are more West Med/North Atlantic than East Med on average.

Italy is a great example of how genetics and ethnicity/identification are more of an anthrotard thing, with no basis on reality, which average joes don't care/identify.

If there is still regionalism in Italy, it's mainly based on culture/socioeconomics, not genetics.

I doubt an Emilian/Venetian feels closer to Iberians than to Calabrians/Sicilians, even if they genetically closer to the people from Spain/Portugal.

Smaug
08-17-2021, 09:10 PM
Northern Italians are more eastern shifted than Iberians, but also closer to them than to Southern Italians, and consequently more western/northern shifted than the latter.

But most of the Italian population is not of Southern Italian origin, but northern, so they are more West Med/North Atlantic than East Med on average.

Italy is a great example of how genetics and ethnicity/identification are more of an anthrotard thing, with no basis on reality, which average joes don't care/identify.

If there is still regionalism in Italy, it's mainly based on culture/socioeconomics, not genetics.

I doubt an Emilian/Venetian feels closer to Iberians than to Calabrians/Sicilians, even if they genetically closer to the people from Spain/Portugal.

Now that was a great answer right there.

Avgvstvs
08-17-2021, 10:09 PM
Northern Italians are more eastern shifted than Iberians, but also closer to them than to Southern Italians, and consequently more western/northern shifted than the latter.

But most of the Italian population is not of Southern Italian origin, but northern, so they are more West Med/North Atlantic than East Med on average.

Italy is a great example of how genetics and ethnicity/identification are more of an anthrotard thing, with no basis on reality, which average joes don't care/identify.

If there is still regionalism in Italy, it's mainly based on culture/socioeconomics, not genetics.

I doubt an Emilian/Venetian feels closer to Iberians than to Calabrians/Sicilians, even if they genetically closer to the people from Spain/Portugal.Yes.

My personal definition of ethnic italian is: whoever has his origins from the native people of the italian peninsula(and islands).
That said, there are differences in genetics/popular culture/language & dialects.

But to be honest, I just consider one italian ethnicity, even if there are many groups.

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Inquizzitor2
08-21-2021, 12:33 AM
I'm going to break rank here and say yes, but only for southern Italians. They plot with the Dodacanese islands, Crete, and some samples from Calabria and Messina are going the direction of Cyprus. So if it were a map, i'd say Sicily, Calabria and to a lesser extend Puglia could be viewed as being around Crete.

JamesBond007
08-21-2021, 01:01 AM
Northern Italians are more eastern shifted than Iberians, but also closer to them than to Southern Italians, and consequently more western/northern shifted than the latter.

But most of the Italian population is not of Southern Italian origin, but northern, so they are more West Med/North Atlantic than East Med on average.

Italy is a great example of how genetics and ethnicity/identification are more of an anthrotard thing, with no basis on reality, which average joes don't care/identify.

If there is still regionalism in Italy, it's mainly based on culture/socioeconomics, not genetics.

I doubt an Emilian/Venetian feels closer to Iberians than to Calabrians/Sicilians, even if they genetically closer to the people from Spain/Portugal.

So, the fact that northern Italy is has nothing to do with the fact that Northern Italians are more similar to people in Tyrol Germany than are poorer Southern Italians ? Yeah, ok, man do you have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell me ? But, hey, what do I know ? I guess I'm just an 'anthrotard'.

Soicoeconomics is based on genetics why else is Germany and their Cousins the Dutch richer than Italy ? It is partially culture but it is not culture 100% its also genetic. Why else are blacks are complete failure , on the whole, in all Western societies ? GENETICS and CULTURE.