What do you like and don't like about Hungarians?

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Every nation has positive and negative aspects. Which are those in the case of Hungarians?

[mymy]

Like: Lot of things because i'm big fan of Central Europe, but i will say mentality, unique national culture, interesting sounding language, Budapest is one of my favorite cities-lovely architecture (i even use pendant for keys on what is written "I love Budapest" :D ).

Dislike: I don't know, i still didn't have bad experience or maybe i don't have enough knowledge to notice bad things- although some Serbs say that Hungarians are in general mistrustful toward us.

[Sikeliot]

I am mystified by the fact Hungarians have managed to continue speaking a language completely unrelated to those of their neighbors for so long.

[bluesky]

Like the hungarian folkdance legenyes :) what i dislike is.. well i dont know that they speak a non indo-european language maybe

[Raikaswinþs]

I like Budapest, I like Leczo, Gulasz, Tokai (a company of my home province owns a lot of farmland therenand produces very nice wines).Hungarians are a beautiful people.The country reminds me a lot to Castile the Old

[Sagitta Hungarica]

I am mystified by the fact Hungarians have managed to continue speaking a language completely unrelated to those of their neighbors for so long.

I wish I would see the dumb look on Johann Gottfried von Herder's face, that today still around 15 million people speak Hungarian, since in 1791 he prophesied that in the coming centuries we won't even find traces of spoken Hungarian anymore :cool:

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Like: Lot of things because i'm big fan of Central Europe, but i will say mentality, unique national culture, interesting sounding language, Budapest is one of my favorite cities-lovely architecture (i even use pendant for keys on what is written "I love Budapest" :D ).

Dislike: I don't know, i still didn't have bad experience or maybe i don't have enough knowledge to notice bad things- although some Serbs say that Hungarians are in general mistrustful toward us.

Well the treatment of Hungarians in Vojvodina isn't exactly a model to follow in how to respect minorities. I was reading that in the recent census that was held in Serbia, the people who collected data from person to person in cases refused to write Hungarian to the person's ethnicity field, even if this person insisted that he declares him or herself Hungarian. I can only imagine how many elderly Hungarian persons were fooled this way, who probably didn't verified what were the data collectors writing about their nationalities. The same thing I read happened to Hungarians in Slovakia, and is happening today at the census in Romania. Very unfriendly attitude towards Hungarians, don't you think?

[Absinthe]

Like:
mentality, language, traditions, horseback archery, food, looks :p, etc...

Don't like: not sure I have discovered anything, yet :)

[Armand_Duval]

Hungarians need to be more friendly with turist they need to be more cheerful and less bitter, also they need to be more honest and treat tourist with more honestity.

Budapest is a very nice and beautiful city, I would even dare to say it is more beautiful than Prague but Hungarians need to improve in their attitude.

[Sally]

Like: Hungarian cinema, Vizlas, Kuvasz dogs, Saint Martin of Tours, Elizabeth of Hungary, Saint Kinga, Béla Lugosi, coffee houses, Gesztenye püré...

Don't like: Like Absinthe, I don't think I've found anything yet! :)


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[Mordid]

I love to hear Hungarian woman talk. I developed a mild crush on one once. However, I think as a whole, that they are fucking cool Mongol steppe.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Hungarians need to be more friendly with turist they need to be more cheerful and less bitter, also they need to be more honest and treat tourist with more honestity.

Budapest is a very nice and beautiful city, I would even dare to say it is more beautiful than Prague but Hungarians need to improve in their attitude.

Interesting opinion. Hungarians were always known for their hospitality (sometimes too much of it I should say :p).

[Sagitta Hungarica]

I love to hear Hungarian woman talk. I developed a mild crush on one once. However, I think as a whole, that they are fucking cool Mongol steppe.

Nothing sustains this circulating anti-Hungarian propaganda. Nor archeology, genetics or early documents.

[leisitox]

dislike: Why there is not a stereotype of hungarian :D.

[arcticwolf]

Pros : As a Pole there is a lot to like Hungarians for, they've always been our best friend. Cons: There are some annoying Hungarians, than again each nation has got some annoying people. All in all Hungarians rock!

[Armand_Duval]

Interesting opinion. Hungarians were always known for their hospitality (sometimes too much of it I should say :p).

I think there are lots of bitter ppl in Hungary, although it doesnt mean there are also nice ppl. girls are beautiful by the way.

Hungarias being not so cheerful maybe has to do with the remant cultural comnunist heritage tho.

[Mordid]

Nothing sustains this circulating anti-Hungarian propaganda. Nor archeology, genetics or early documents.

I'm just joking, bro. ;)

[Sally]

dislike: Why there is not a stereotype of hungarian :D.

The closest stereotype I'm aware of is that Hungarians are prone to depression and somewhat gloomy at times.

"Little white flowers won't wait for you,
not where the black coach of sorrow has taken you.
Angels have no thought of ever returning you.
Would they be angry if I thought of joining you?"

-Gloomy Sunday, Rezső Seress

[leisitox]

And another dislike: Why there is not a stereotype of hungarian(phenotypically) :D.

[Himera]

When I am thinking about Hungary , my impressions are associated with misterious veil of nobleness, aristocracy, poethry, elegy, suicide from principles, in generally, misterious ethnicity which is on the first hand related with Mongolia, ethnicity with such a strong influence on essential european culture, but on the other hand, it is very authentic, and it has strong relations only with Finns ...
I am thinking about Atila the Hun, who 's whispering from hungarian blood lines , hidden between crash of royal gens and varvarians, from one glassy blue eye- view, to another asiatic steppe eye-view ... All that with more enigma: influence of balkanian superstitions, Matia Korvin with hand of (un)mercy, vacuum of comunism, some common ubermensch detesting towards my people, ilirism, bloodbath of mad Kontesse ...
;)

[Agrippa]

In general, I like Hungarians and can't say anything really negative about them as a people, but historically, they should have treated the Germans in their part better and of course, they shouldn't have taken Ödenburg by force...

[Himera]

And another dislike: Why there is not a stereotype of hungarian(phenotypically) :D.
I think someone has told me on the Apricity, that I look hungarian, I was totally surprised!:)

[Sagitta Hungarica]

The closest stereotype I'm aware of is that Hungarians are prone to depression and somewhat gloomy at times.

"Little white flowers won't wait for you,
not where the black coach of sorrow has taken you.
Angels have no thought of ever returning you.
Would they be angry if I thought of joining you?"

-Gloomy Sunday, Rezső Seress

Well knowing other nations, Hungarians are definitely not more depressed than the average European. It is just a stereotype that if repeated enough becomes known as fact. But it isn't really.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

When I am thinking about Hungary , my impressions are associated with misterious veil of nobleness, aristocracy, poethry, elegy, suicide from principles, in generally, misterious ethnicity which is on the first hand related with Mongolia, ethnicity with such a strong influence on essential european culture, but on the other hand, it is very authentic, and it has strong relations only with Finns ...
I am thinking about Atila the Hun, who 's whispering from hungarian blood lines , hidden between crash of royal gens and varvarians, from one glassy blue eye- view, to another asiatic steppe eye-view ... All that with more enigma: influence of balkanian superstitions, Matia Korvin with hand of (un)mercy, vacuum of comunism, some common ubermensch detesting towards my people, ilirism, bloodbath of mad Kontesse ...
;)

Quite interesting opinion, however the Mongolian stereotype pups up once again. It was just created to denigrate our position in Europe by our "friendly" neighbors. Neighbors: love them or hate them, but you can't get away from them :D

[Sahson]

Like: Egri Csillgok, Magyar!, Magyarország Leány, Austro-hungarian empire

Dislike: poor nation at the moment, not pro-capitalistic.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

In general, I like Hungarians and can't say anything really negative about them as a people, but historically, they should have treated the Germans in their part better and of course, they shouldn't have taken Ödenburg by force, when the vote was planned already, because it was a German city...

No disrespect to you, but you are misinformed. I don't think there was a more open nation to Germans in Europe than Hungarians. Since the foundation of our state in 1000 Germans were welcomed to settle in Hungary, and they always benefited of large autonomy, and our rulers treated them better than the average Hungarian peasant (in wars they weren't obliged to fight for Hungary, so they had all the circumstances to flourish). Also in both world wars Hungary was the first and last country to join and to remain in battle with Germany.

Also Hungary was the last shield of German states in front of the Ottoman invasions, and took the heavy losses, while the Hapsburgs had enough time to raise a strong military and economical state, that later they could resist successfully further Ottoman attacks, after they conquered a large part of Hungary. And what was the thank you? Almost 300 years of national suppression of Hungarians in the Hapsburg Empire. But we already forgave this past, proof being that on an economical basis we have the tightest relations with Germany and Austria.

[Sahson]

Also Hungary was the last shield of German states in front of the Ottoman invasions, and took the heavy losses, while the Hapsburgs had enough time to raise a strong military and economical state, that later they could resist successfully further Ottoman attacks, after they conquered a large part of Hungary. And what was the thank you? Almost 300 years of national suppression of Hungarians in the Hapsburg Empire. But we already forgave this past, proof being that on an economical basis we have the tightest relations with Germany and Austria.

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[Sagitta Hungarica]

Like: Egri Csillgok, Magyar!, Magyarország Leány, Austro-hungarian empire

Dislike: poor nation at the moment, not pro-capitalistic.

I don't see a reason why would somebody dislike anybody just because they are poor. I think you always have to be compassionate with those in need. And it's not like Hungary is a third world country. It is well integrated with the infrastructure into Europe, the average Hungarian also had a decent living, not until the former 8 year long socialist (read metamorphosed Communists over the night into democrats) had favored a catastrophically pro-capitalist policy, which resulted in selling almost all the goods of the state on very little money, and borrowing so much money that could never be payed back, but most of this money wasn't used into state developments, but went into these crooked politicians and their business entourage's banking accounts. I find it very odd that someone, especially writing on such a forum to be pro-capitalism. Our new government does very well that it wants to put a break to the Capitalist blood sucking bankers and corporations that want to buy off everything in Hungary, even the not yet born. My issue with them however is, that their anti-capitalism is just a facade, since they are themselves puppets of the corporations and banks.

[Sahson]

I don't see a reason why would somebody dislike anybody just because they are poor. I think you always have to be compassionate with those in need. And it's not like Hungary is a third world country. It is well integrated with the infrastructure into Europe, the average Hungarian also had a decent living, not until the former 8 year long socialist (read metamorphosed Communists over the night into democrats) had favored a catastrophically pro-capitalist policy, which resulted in selling almost all the goods of the state on very little money, and borrowing so much money that could never be payed back, but most of this money wasn't used into state developments, but went into these crooked politicians and their business entourage's banking accounts. I find it very odd that someone, especially writing on such a forum to be pro-capitalism. Our new government does very well that it wants to put a break to the Capitalist blood sucking bankers and corporations that want to buy off everything in Hungary, even the not yet born. My issue with them however is, that their anti-capitalism is just a facade, since they are themselves puppets of the corporations and banks.

the payroll tax is still 50%. my family had to flee hungary, they threatened to kill my aunt's father. so remember that. you forgot to mention my likes :P

[Sally]

Oops, I forget to add...

There is some great Hungarian animation.

Vuk the fox was quite charming. :)

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[Tabiti]

The same like us - have the potential to be one of the strongest nations, however don't know how to use it.

[Agrippa]

No disrespect to you, but you are misinformed. I don't think there was a more open nation to Germans in Europe than Hungarians. Since the foundation of our state in 1000 Germans were welcomed to settle in Hungary, and they always benefited of large autonomy, and our rulers treated them better than the average Hungarian peasant (in wars they weren't obliged to fight for Hungary, so they had all the circumstances to flourish). Also in both world wars Hungary was the first and last country to join and to remain in battle with Germany.

That's true and I respect that, you became almost Germans with an Ugrian language ;)

However, there was a strong pressure on Germans for Magyarisation. Language and own schools were forbidden, there was a constant discrimination to force Germans, especially in the cities, into Magyarisation. In a way that's understandable too, but of course, it is problematic from my German point of view.

And again, Ödenburg should have remained German.

But like you said, the past is gone, today I have just positive feelings towards true Hungarians.

[Stars Down To Earth]

What I like:

Bela Lugosi, vampire films, and all that creepy medieval stuff like Elizabeth Bathory. Also, coffee houses and nice food like goulash. And for speaking an incredibly weird language that has no relation to Indo-Europeans whatsoever.

What I don't like:

Can't really think of anything bad. The only Hungarian person I've ever met was hot and female, so it's mostly good impressions.

EDIT: Oh, right, I just remember they have a huge infestation of Gypsies. That's a definite minus for the country.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

That's true and I respect that, you became almost Germans with an Ugrian language ;)

However, there was a strong pressure on Germans for Magyarisation. Language and own schools were forbidden, there was a constant discrimination to force Germans, especially in the cities, into Magyarisation. In a way that's understandable too, but of course, it is problematic from my German point of view.

And again, Ödenburg should have remained German.

But like you said, the past is gone, today I have just positive feelings towards true Hungarians.

I don't deny that there was a state policy that is known today as "magyarization" in the late 19th century and early 20th century. But it is very one sided and biased critic that Hungarians are targeted with, similar as White Americans are indoctrinated with the "White guilt". Only leftists and liberals in Hungary constantly use this card to hit in everything that is Hungarian (btw, we have some of the most disloyal antis in Europe). Remember that Hungarians after the creation of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire came from a long period in which their nationhood was almost extinguished by Hapsburgs. Our aristocrats were very much Germanized, lucky with our proud and stubborn Hungarian peasantry which preserved our language and customs even in oppressive times. After the Union, suddenly Hungarians reunited their former lands and awakened that large parts of the country didn't knew the official language of the state, Hungarian. Our elites became conscious that with an alienated population, which is foreign from Hungarian language and culture, which is disloyal to the state, Hungary can break-up anytime. So they steadily obliged pupils of other nationalities to learn the official language of the state. Today it is called evil "magyarization". But Hungary wasn't a singular case in Europe with such policy. All states practiced such policies, besides Switzerland and Belgium I think. Yes, Hungarian officials should have been more open towards the many inhabiting nationalities, but is it wrong that a citizen of a country should know the official language of that state? I think it isn't very acceptable to you either that many Turks don't speak any or very bad German. Of course in schools they must learn the official language of the country, that is German. As I sad, this blame game is easy to play, but it isn't always that clear the amount of guilt of the accused.

[Agrippa]

You know, the difference is just that the Germans were invited under very specific conditions, with very specific rights, even when Hungary was independent, a sovereign state. So they broke promises, so to say, when putting up pressure on the German communities, which were otherwise loyal citizens, but just wanted to keep up their German tradition.

But anyway, that's not comparable to what other nations did to the German settlers and again, I can understand where that policy came from...

[Storm 1995]

What do you like and don't like about Hungarians?

I don't like their paprika. It's not good as it used to be.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

I don't like their paprika. It's not good as it used to be.

Paprika is cultivated all over the world now, and is mixed with all sorts of chemicals, but the best one is still cultivated naturally in Lower Hungary :thumb001:

[Caeruleus]

what do I like about Hungary and hungarians ?

well ... Anita Blonde

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fQ4dsAZgAZw/TT-dBFt6dYI/AAAAAAAAEGc/fg9q7FGubk8/s1600/anita-blond.jpg

I would've posted a more sincere picture but then there are a few underage members :D

Just kidding ... you can not not love Budapest, its up there next to Prague and Paris. Hungarians are good people if they would give up their Greater Hungary dreams they would be even better.

[Agrippa]

what do I like about Hungary and hungarians ?

well ... Anita Blonde

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fQ4dsAZgAZw/TT-dBFt6dYI/AAAAAAAAEGc/fg9q7FGubk8/s1600/anita-blond.jpg

I would've posted a more sincere picture but then there are a few underage members :D


On Wikipedia they write about her, that she converted to Islam after her "career"... :rolleyes2:

[HungAryan]

If they would give up their Greater Hungary dreams they would be even better.

Sure, "if the enemy would surrender, they would be better" :rolleyes:
Come on, you can't be serious.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

what do I like about Hungary and hungarians ?

well ... Anita Blonde

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fQ4dsAZgAZw/TT-dBFt6dYI/AAAAAAAAEGc/fg9q7FGubk8/s1600/anita-blond.jpg

I would've posted a more sincere picture but then there are a few underage members :D

Just kidding ... you can not not love Budapest, its up there next to Prague and Paris. Hungarians are good people if they would give up their Greater Hungary dreams they would be even better.

That's a fair position. But to make a correction, Hungarians don't want any Great Hungary, because such a state never existed. Only state I know which calls itself Great is Britain. Hungarians only want the stolen lands to reunite with Hungary, just in the form it was established and existed with interruptions in the past 1000 years. But I know we should also settle with a compromise solution, but our neighbors are incredibly stubborn and unfortunately I don't see any signs of compromise from them.

[The Alchemist]

I dislike the food :bullet puke
Also Transilvanian one!!!!

[Leliana]

Like: Architecture, religion and culture influenced by Austria and Germany; the historical relationship of friendship between our lands; their mentality and patriotism with positive election results; and Gulasch! :D

Dislike: The language

[Sylvanus]

what do I like about Hungary and hungarians ?

well ... Anita Blonde

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fQ4dsAZgAZw/TT-dBFt6dYI/AAAAAAAAEGc/fg9q7FGubk8/s1600/anita-blond.jpg

I would've posted a more sincere picture but then there are a few underage members :D

Just kidding ... you can not not love Budapest, its up there next to Prague and Paris. Hungarians are good people if they would give up their Greater Hungary dreams they would be even better.

Holy sheep. Her face is very typical among halfbreed and/or quadroon hungarian romanis. "One violin-bow of romani blood in she" (She have some romani blood) — we use to say in similar case.

This type is the most dangerous for the presetvation, because the media forced this type (with dyed hair and lot of make-up) and it will be hardly recognizable.

http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/t/9/t96rhmt7ezh0e7hh.jpg
http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/5/1/51zka6uxojcyaku5.jpg

[Caeruleus]

Holy sheep. Her face is very typical among halfbreed and/or quadroon hungarian romanis. "One violin-bow of romani blood in she" (She have some romani blood) — we use to say in similar case.

This type is the most dangerous for the presetvation, because the media forced this type (with dyed hair and lot of make-up) and it will be hardly recognizable.

http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/t/9/t96rhmt7ezh0e7hh.jpg
http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/5/1/51zka6uxojcyaku5.jpg

Yes it seems like she has some gypo blood.

http://image.qpicture.com/image/a/artist-anita-dark/383172.jpg

what about this one ? I hope you dont have any objections cause that's the only other hungarian pornstar that I know of :)

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Holy sheep. Her face is very typical among halfbreed and/or quadroon hungarian romanis. "One violin-bow of romani blood in she" (She have some romani blood) — we use to say in similar case.

This type is the most dangerous for the presetvation, because the media forced this type (with dyed hair and lot of make-up) and it will be hardly recognizable.

http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/t/9/t96rhmt7ezh0e7hh.jpg
http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/5/1/51zka6uxojcyaku5.jpg

Well pictures can deceive you, in those she has heavy tan, but I cannot detect any Romani traces in her. These are other pictures of her:

http://uploads.blogia.com/blogs/k/ke/key/keyzersoze69/upload/20071224171813-anita-blonde.jpg

http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/5/0/50x43ruoez5mouz4.jpg

She looks quite typical for a Hungarian woman, Gypsies are dark skinned South Asians.

[Unurautare]

About Hungarians in Hungary- Like: 1)That they can't fight. They lost most/all of the wars against foreigners ever since Matei Corvin died;
2) Can't really think of a 2nd reason,I guess .


Dislike: 1)The language can be irritating but it depends on the accent of the person speaking it;
2) That they like to invent the weirdest bs about neighbors and then spam the internet with it like they have nothing better to do with their lives.

About Hungarians in Romania - Like: 1)that they are traditionalists;
2)they are well known for their good potatoes ;

Dislike: 1) UDMR -the ethnic hungarian party in Romanian politics.

[Agrippa]

She looks quite typical for a Hungarian woman, Gypsies are dark skinned South Asians.

She has zero Gypsy/Roma traits, that's nonsense. The only Gypsies which might look remotely like such variants, are those which are heavily mixed with Europeans, never vice versa.

[Caeruleus]

She has zero Gypsy/Roma traits, that's nonsense. The only Gypsies which might look remotely like such variants, are those which are heavily mixed with Europeans, never vice versa.

what would a typical gypsy/romani look like ? I mean face shape, eyes, nose and so on ...

[Mordid]

What would a typical Gypsy/Romani look like? I mean face shape, eyes, nose and so on...

Fixed.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OWBjElSIyrk/S8fbInYmOXI/AAAAAAAACDc/Exyka0bM4h4/s1600/gypsy.jpg

[Caeruleus]

I find gypsies hard to spot, especially when they're mixed with other ethnicities.

the woman in your picture is obviously a gypsy I couldn't mistake her for anything else but most of them are not that typical and therefore hard to be identified.

Are there any traits that could give away their ethnicity ?

[Sagitta Hungarica]

About Hungarians in Hungary- Like: 1)That they can't fight. They lost most/all of the wars against foreigners ever since Matei Corvin died;
2) Can't really think of a 2nd reason,I guess .


Dislike: 1)The language can be irritating but it depends on the accent of the person speaking it;
2) That they like to invent the weirdest bs about neighbors and then spam the internet with it like they have nothing better to do with their lives.

About Hungarians in Romania - Like: 1)that they are traditionalists;
2)they are well known for their good potatoes ;

Dislike: 1) UDMR -the ethnic hungarian party in Romanian politics.

Study Thököly Imre's and later II Rákóczi Ferenc's Uprisings, the Hungarian Revolution and Freedom War of 1948-49, battles in which Hungarians took part in WWI, the 1956 Uprising, which btw, is comemorated on this very day. Like I said, you know almost nothing exactly about Hungarian history, just repeat the rumors you heard from here and there. But historical judgements should never be based on rumors and false propaganda.

About fighting capabilities we have countless champions all over the history of combat sports, past and present. But I bet you knew that already, just you act as typical frustrated Romanian ;)

[Sylvanus]

Well pictures can deceive you, in those she has heavy tan, but I cannot detect any Romani traces in her. These are other pictures of her:

http://uploads.blogia.com/blogs/k/ke/key/keyzersoze69/upload/20071224171813-anita-blonde.jpg

http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/5/0/50x43ruoez5mouz4.jpg

She looks quite typical for a Hungarian woman, Gypsies are dark skinned South Asians.

She don't look like typical hungarian woman. Very funny, you linked these pics with dyed hair and heavy make-up, in turn I willfully heighten these features and I pointed to the facial features the most important.

Regina Dukai is very similar case, because she have romani ancestors too, but with dyed hair, make-up and photoshop, those features become hardly recognizible. The most of individuals with romani ancestors in hungary have yellowish or pale skin, but their faces are the evidence of the romani influence. I know many hungarian citizen with similar facetype and ancestors. Sometimes they don't know their exotic ancestry and they wondered when the original hungarians think them arabs or the dönermeisters fraternize with them.

I grow up in very mixed place I saw original romanis, middle-easterns and halfbreeds sine when I could walk, hence I have a routine to distinguishe them. In time you will learn how to. Namely this is one of the most dangerous thing for the preservation in Hungary.


Hair dye, make-up and photoshop:

http://m.blog.hu/te/teddike/image/200805/dukai_regina_fhm_08_m.jpg
http://novakijules.hu/images/stories/dukai-regina.jpg
http://www.habostorta.hu/OLD/uploads/kep/0043/0043169_1.jpg
http://koncertiroda.hu/images/dukai_regina_002.jpg
http://www.storyonline.hu/data/cikk/1/751/1.jpg


Parno Graszt (White Horse) one fo the best hungarian romani orchestra. Their tan are by the Sun, but their faces are by their DNA. Enyoj it!

Zha mo Jozhi, zha mo te!

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[BanjaLuka]

Like: Everything.

Dislike:really Nothing applicable. :shrug:

[Unurautare]

Study Thököly Imre's and later II Rákóczi Ferenc's Uprisings, the Hungarian Revolution and Freedom War of 1948-49, battles in which Hungarians took part in WWI, the 1956 Uprising, which btw, is comemorated on this very day. Like I said, you know almost nothing exactly about Hungarian history, just repeat the rumors you heard from here and there. But historical judgements should never be based on rumors and false propaganda.

There is nothing wrong with what I said - your people lost them.

Btw you forgot this war(the reds took over Hungary after WW1 and decided to attack Czechoslovakia and Romania):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian-Romanian_war_of_1919

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Hungarian-Romanian_War_of_1919%2C_Romanian_advance_to_Tisza_-_English.jpg


About fighting capabilities we have countless champions all over the history of combat sports, past and present. But I bet you knew that already, just you act as typical frustrated Romanian ;)

I didn't say anything bad or false,I was trying to be nice and help this thread get popularity,but thank you for the insults.

[Sylvanus]

She has zero Gypsy/Roma traits, that's nonsense. The only Gypsies which might look remotely like such variants, are those which are heavily mixed with Europeans, never vice versa.

Forgive you my contrariety, but we have more experience with this and Caeruleaus said well: to "find gypsies hard to spot, especially when they're mixed with other ethnicities". That is the reason why many person can't see this. For example the hungarian romanis are commonly very similar to armenians (not the armenids, the armenians), but I think this is distinghuishable hardly too.



Futhermore I think the case wiht Sopron/Ödenburg is very difficult, because the capital of the holy schytes is a fully german city conglomerate: the city and the alround village (chóré) were germanic too, but they will be hungarian like the Sopronians.

The hungarian romantic nationalism was a tool owned by the hungarian aristocracy and the bourgeoises (with germanic origin!) that spread own power against the central government. Just he blind hungarian nationalist believe that the magyarization to went about the nationalism. But the olds told me about the education was in hungarish and all day was hungarian propaganda, they must sing hungarian nationalist song, etc. And the name magyarization, and the bilingual milieu: one language at home, one in the street/workplace.

But all of them more compound what the people think, however it is very similar the case of transylvanian hungarians. Lastly the hungarians think and see the transylvanians to romanians, and the germans think and see the hungarian germans to hungarians. Anyway after all everyone will become arab.:D

[Sagitta Hungarica]

She don't look like typical hungarian woman. Very funny, you linked these pics with dyed hair and heavy make-up, in turn I willfully heighten these features and I pointed to the facial features the most important.

Regina Dukai is very similar case, because she have romani ancestors too, but with dyed hair, make-up and photoshop, those features become hardly recognizible. The most of individuals with romani ancestors in hungary have yellowish or pale skin, but their faces are the evidence of the romani influence. I know many hungarian citizen with similar facetype and ancestors. Sometimes they don't know their exotic ancestry and they wondered when the original hungarians think them arabs or the dönermeisters fraternize with them.

I grow up in very mixed place I saw original romanis, middle-easterns and halfbreeds sine when I could walk, hence I have a routine to distinguishe them. In time you will learn how to. Namely this is one of the most dangerous thing for the preservation in Hungary.


Hair dye, make-up and photoshop:

http://m.blog.hu/te/teddike/image/200805/dukai_regina_fhm_08_m.jpg
http://novakijules.hu/images/stories/dukai-regina.jpg
http://www.habostorta.hu/OLD/uploads/kep/0043/0043169_1.jpg
http://koncertiroda.hu/images/dukai_regina_002.jpg
http://www.storyonline.hu/data/cikk/1/751/1.jpg


Parno Graszt (White Horse) one fo the best hungarian romani orchestra. Their tan are by the Sun, but their faces are by their DNA. Enyoj it!

Zha mo Jozhi, zha mo te!

HrpuISwcQJ4

I am amazed that you question the Whiteness of these two females. I know exactly how Romanies look like, and these two women don't have Romani traces at all. Heck, than I could also claim that most Southern Europeans are Romanies, but that is nonsense. Hungarians considered and still consider Romanies as paria, and if there existed any race-mixing with them, it were very isolated cases. You have any source claiming Dukai Regina is Romani?

[Sagitta Hungarica]

There is nothing wrong with what I said - your people lost them.

Btw you forgot this war(the reds took over Hungary after WW1 and decided to attack Czechoslovakia and Romania):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian-Romanian_war_of_1919

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Hungarian-Romanian_War_of_1919%2C_Romanian_advance_to_Tisza_-_English.jpg



I didn't say anything bad or false,I was trying to be nice and help this thread get popularity,but thank you for the insults.

Why do you insist in trying to lecture about Hungarian history when you haven't read anything more than wiki sources? The "Hungarian"-Romanian War of 1919 was more exactly between the Hungarian Soviet Republic (just a satellite republic of the Soviet Union) and Romania. Hungary ceased to exist, with the coming to power of the Bolshevik Jew Kun Béla and his Bolshevik Jewish terrorist comrades. The Bolshevik Jews despised Hungarians, they just used our country as camp for spreading Bolshevism across Europe, and to unite former European countries with the Soviet Union. They attacked both Czechoslovakia and Romania to create a corridor between the Soviet Union and the Hungarian Soviet Republic. They didn't acted out of some Hungarian interest, because they couldn't give a damn about the 1000 years old Hungary. Romanians did us a favor on one part, that they abolished this red rat from governing Hungary, but instead of withdrawing, they hold what was left of Hungary under barbarian occupation, stealing and desecrating our museums, monuments, terrorizing civilians, that even your allies, the French said "enough is enough" and sent your asses home. But to know these details you have to read, however not wiki sources, but history books.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Forgive you my contrariety, but we have more experience with this and Caeruleaus said well: to "find gypsies hard to spot, especially when they're mixed with other ethnicities". That is the reason why many person can't see this. For example the hungarian romanis are commonly very similar to armenians (not the armenids, the armenians), but I think this is distinghuishable hardly too.



Futhermore I think the case wiht Sopron/Ödenburg is very difficult, because the capital of the holy schytes is a fully german city conglomerate: the city and the alround village (chóré) were germanic too, but they will be hungarian like the Sopronians.

The hungarian romantic nationalism was a tool owned by the hungarian aristocracy and the bourgeoises (with germanic origin!) that spread own power against the central government. Just he blind hungarian nationalist believe that the magyarization to went about the nationalism. But the olds told me about the education was in hungarish and all day was hungarian propaganda, they must sing hungarian nationalist song, etc. And the name magyarization, and the bilingual milieu: one language at home, one in the street/workplace.

But all of them more compound what the people think, however it is very similar the case of transylvanian hungarians. Lastly the hungarians think and see the transylvanians to romanians, and the germans think and see the hungarian germans to hungarians. Anyway after all everyone will become arab.:D

The people of Sopron decided in 1921 in a plebiscite to unite back with the motherland, Hungary, so what's your problem with that? The Őrvidék (Burgenland) was an integral part of Hungary since their arrival in the Carpathian Basin in the late 9th century. Even the name Őrvidék (post or guard territory) shows clearly that this was the border territory of Hungary.

Only brainwashed Hungarians still fall for the Communist propaganda that Transylvanian Hungarians are Romanians, most know that their brethren live under Romanian occupation. I don't know where you are getting these information, but I sense an anti-Hungarian bias in your posts.

[Agrippa]

Gypsies are a population, an ethnocultural and social group, similar to Jews, they are not race. Some Gypsy groups being more mixed than others, one has to keep that in mind. Those which are heavily mixed can produce individuals which are overall rather European racially.

In this movie you see a lot of Slovakian Gypsies, which are, in comparison, more "pure":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfJqCQZxOU

This documtary is also crucial for understanding the "Gypsy-problem" for those which have no experiences.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Gypsies are a population, an ethnocultural and social group, similar to Jews, they are not race. Some Gypsy groups being more mixed than others, one has to keep that in mind. Those which are heavily mixed can produce individuals which are overall rather European racially.

In this movie you see a lot of Slovakian Gypsies, which are, in comparison, more "pure":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfJqCQZxOU

This documtary is also crucial for understanding the "Gypsy-problem" for those which have no experiences.

But Romanies have clear South Asian (similar to Pakistanis and Indians) identifiable traces. They can be easily identified as Gypsies, at least to someone who lived among them all their lives. Indeed, there are some who can have paler skin color, but usually you can recognize them from their facial characteristics.

[Sahson]

Dislike: The language

szuka!! :mad:

[Agrippa]

But Romanies have clear South Asian (similar to Pakistanis and Indians) identifiable traces. They can be easily identified as Gypsies, at least to someone who lived among them all their lives. Indeed, there are some who can have paler skin color, but usually you can recognize them from their facial characteristics.

Most - yes. All? No.

And in the mixed regions/clans you have more rather European phenotypes, which is just logical.

[Unurautare]

Why do you insist in trying to lecture about Hungarian history when you haven't read anything more than wiki sources? The "Hungarian"-Romanian War of 1919 was more exactly between the Hungarian Soviet Republic (just a satellite republic of the Soviet Union) and Romania. Hungary ceased to exist, with the coming to power of the Bolshevik Jew Kun Béla and his Bolshevik Jewish terrorist comrades. The Bolshevik Jews despised Hungarians, they just used our country as camp for spreading Bolshevism across Europe, and to unite former European countries with the Soviet Union. They attacked both Czechoslovakia and Romania to create a corridor between the Soviet Union and the Hungarian Soviet Republic. They didn't acted out of some Hungarian interest, because they couldn't give a damn about the 1000 years old Hungary. Romanians did us a favor on one part, that they abolished this red rat from governing Hungary, but instead of withdrawing, they hold what was left of Hungary under barbarian occupation, stealing and desecrating our museums, monuments, terrorizing civilians, that even your allies, the French said "enough is enough" and sent your asses home. But to know these details you have to read, however not wiki sources, but history books.

Did you read what I said? I said "the reds took over Hungary" and I mostly agree with what you said but don't exaggerate on the Romanians acting like "barbarians",it was war booty. I also recall reading how Hungarians robbed Romanian churches in medieval times,or how the Romanians in Transylvania were treated like 2nd class citizens(at best) or slaves(the norm.). One of the most weird bans was that the Hungarians even banned Romanians in Transylvania from wearing boots and shoes(when they became available in the XIXth century). Also in the XIXth centry - a petition was sent in 1892 by the leaders of the Romanians of Transylvania(Romanians were and are the largest population in the area) to the Austro-Hungarian Emperor-King Franz Joseph, asking for equal ethnic rights with the Hungarians, and demanding an end to persecutions and Magyarization attempts,but the petition was never read but sent to the Hungarians and the leaders were sent to jail as "traitors" for wanting equal rights for the Romanians . Not to mention what Hungarians did to some hundreds Transylvanian villagers in 1940(when Hungary wasn't even at war with anybody) at Treznea(the Treznea massacre) and at Ip(the Ip massacre) where Romanians(men,women and children) were killed in cold blood.

More recently,in 2007, the 200 year old Romanian church in the town of Bekescsa(Hungary) was vandalized and then burned.

http://www.nek.gov.hu/id-490-sajtoszemle_osszefoglalo_a_bekescsabai_r.html

http://church-news.blogspot.com/2007/07/church-in-bekescsaba-hungary-burned.html

[morski]

I like fake Hunagrian:)

ATM - sereshkesh - craps cash
Bee - beremed - Gathers honey
Drone - neberemed (West Hungarian) - Doesn't gather honey\ ebeneberemed (East Hungarian) - Fucks and doesn't gather honey
:D

[Aces High]

I like the fact that after the fall of communism they stayed in their own country and are building it up.

I dont think i have ever met any,i would like to visit the country as it seems like it has some beautiful countryside.
Nice country to take a goshawk for the hunting.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Did you read what I said? I said "the reds took over Hungary" and I mostly agree with what you said but don't exaggerate on the Romanians acting like "barbarians",it was war booty. I also recall reading how Hungarians robbed Romanian churches in medieval times,or how the Romanians in Transylvania were treated like 2nd class citizens(at best) or slaves(the norm.). One of the most weird bans was that the Hungarians even banned Romanians in Transylvania from wearing boots and shoes(when they became available in the XIXth century). Also in the XIXth centry - a petition was sent in 1892 by the leaders of the Romanians of Transylvania(Romanians were and are the largest population in the area) to the Austro-Hungarian Emperor-King Franz Joseph, asking for equal ethnic rights with the Hungarians, and demanding an end to persecutions and Magyarization attempts,but the petition was never read but sent to the Hungarians and the leaders were sent to jail as "traitors" for wanting equal rights for the Romanians . Not to mention what Hungarians did to some hundreds Transylvanian villagers in 1940(when Hungary wasn't even at war with anybody) at Treznea(the Treznea massacre) and at Ip(the Ip massacre) where Romanians(men,women and children) were killed in cold blood.

More recently,in 2007, the 200 year old Romanian church in the town of Bekescsa(Hungary) was vandalized and then burned.

http://www.nek.gov.hu/id-490-sajtoszemle_osszefoglalo_a_bekescsabai_r.html

http://church-news.blogspot.com/2007/07/church-in-bekescsaba-hungary-burned.html

The fact that you treat history from an amateur's point of view, and don't seek to achieve a more neutral position can be deduced from your generalizations, that simply paint a false picture. Do you see Hungarians blame on every thread Austrians for the oppressive, anti-Hungarian regimes they installed in our country? No, because this is just childish finger-pointing, typical to antis and Jews. The past cannot be changed, the future is anyways linked to one another in this region of Europe, so as well we might look forward to a future of cooperation. That's why I am tired of constant Romanian whining of "evil Hungarian" oppression. The result of this "devilish oppression" is that Romanians increased their numbers in Transylvania, also their national movement also started in Transylvania, and Romanian intellectuals could publish their books in Hungarian printing houses. Also Romanians in the 19th century, in the peak of the so-called "magyarization" had more schools in Transylvania than all Romanian schools in Wallachia and Moldova together. How is it possible that you could preserve your culture, customs, language, and more, increase your numbers when Hungarians were such harsh oppressors? I don't deny that Hungarian elites should've been more open to give more rights to the other nationalities in Hungary, but pushing this "Hungarian guilt" on us, which is the same PC, marxist, liberal crap that pushes "White guilt" on White Americans is just hypocritical.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

I just read the links which you put about the Orthodox Church burning in Békéscsaba in 2007. Again you make false allegations and generalize in blaming Hungarians for a deed of one schizophrenic person, who prior to do this atrocity, spent 4 years in a Moldavian monastery, than returned to Hungary where he joined a Serbian Orthodox Church in Budapest, than he moved to Békéscsaba and attended masses at this very church, where he also used to sing. Even if it isn't mentioned the ethnicity of the guy, because of PC requirements in Hungarian media, I wouldn't be surprised that the guy was himself ethnic Romanian, and being schizophrenic might have done such a criminal act. Also the government immediately assured that it will pay the costs for repairing the church.

Honestly I don't know why do you insist in blaming Hungarians with lies all the time, but if this is how you serve the best interests of your good name, and of your people than proceed as you wish. But be sure that I'll be here, reading and responding when needed ;)

[Unurautare]

but pushing this "Hungarian guilt" on us, which is the same PC, marxist, liberal crap that pushes "White guilt" on White Americans is just hypocritical.

Maybe Hungarian guilt should be more present and made more visible since Romanians in Transylvania we're treated like livestock,more or less, by Hungarians for ~500 years ever since "Unio Trium Nationum" was enacted in 1438,now the Romanians in Hungary are being punished ,I think mainly because Hungarians are being taught biased history in schools. Maybe "incidents" like burning a historic Romanian church in Hungary wouldn't happen.

More recent events in Hungary from the last year and this one:


http://www.evz.ro/detalii/stiri/ungaria-din-nou-sensibila-la-ziua-nationala-a-romaniei-mae-regreta-912800.html
"Hungary sensible to the national day of Romania

The director of the National Theater in Budapest withdrew his agreement given to the Romanian Cultural Institute concerning the lease of a space for a reception with the occasion of Romania's National Day, after the protests of Hungarian politicians that even accused him of treason. Similar Receptions were organized by the Romanian Cultural Institute with the occasion of Romania's National Day,in past years,also in state theaters, without provoking such reactions[...]
The director of the National Theater in Budapest pinpointed yesterday that the agreement concerning the lease was given because he considered that "The spectacle and the reception can help the two countries,Hungary and Romania,get closer to one another via culture and art,despite the not so pleasant past. Unfortunately back then I didn't understand that my decision will be easily misinterpreted and it may hurt the feelings of many Hungarians. While I consider the pains of the past should be resolved responsibly and in an European fashion ,being the head of one of the most important public cultural institutions,I can't ignore what happened", said Alfoldi for MTI."

Also this year the mayor of Budapest changed the historic flag of the city because "it looked too romanian".

http://www.dteurope.com/diplomacy-and-life/news/budapest-changes-flag.html


The Budapest Municipality Assembly has approved the new flag of the Hungarian capital. The change is necessary because Budapest's current flag is very similar to that of Romania, Budapest Mayor István Tarlós argued.

[Leliana]

szuka!! :mad:
:confused:

[Mordid]

Shut up all of you and let's sing together.
4pXfHLUlZf4

[UncleJohn]

The first Hungarian acquaintance of mine was a woman in the office where I once worked in Zurich some years ago. Knowing she had a family I asked how many children she had. She answered two.
Later I learned that she had two sons AND a daughter.
Upon inquiring the reason she said for Hungarians only the boys count.
I was absolutely floored hearing that from a woman and mother. :eek:

[Unurautare]

The first Hungarian acquaintance of mine was a woman in the office where I once worked in Zurich some years ago. Knowing she had a family I asked how many children she had. She answered two.
Later I learned that she had two sons AND a daughter.
Upon inquiring the reason she said for Hungarians only the boys count.
I was absolutely floored hearing that from a woman and mother. :eek:

That's not strange at all,except that she didn't mention the daughter in the 1st place. Women are viewed as inferior in importance to men almost everywhere in the world(officially or not,even if Americans and Europeans struggle to change that). :eek:

[Balmung]

They're hot.

[Mordid]

They're hot.

And you look like metrosexual swede in your avatar.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Maybe Hungarian guilt should be more present and made more visible since Romanians in Transylvania we're treated like livestock,more or less, by Hungarians for ~500 years ever since "Unio Trium Nationum" was enacted in 1438,now the Romanians in Hungary are being punished ,I think mainly because Hungarians are being taught biased history in schools. Maybe "incidents" like burning a historic Romanian church in Hungary wouldn't happen.

More recent events in Hungary from the last year and this one:


http://www.evz.ro/detalii/stiri/ungaria-din-nou-sensibila-la-ziua-nationala-a-romaniei-mae-regreta-912800.html
"Hungary sensible to the national day of Romania

The director of the National Theater in Budapest withdrew his agreement given to the Romanian Cultural Institute concerning the lease of a space for a reception with the occasion of Romania's National Day, after the protests of Hungarian politicians that even accused him of treason. Similar Receptions were organized by the Romanian Cultural Institute with the occasion of Romania's National Day,in past years,also in state theaters, without provoking such reactions[...]
The director of the National Theater in Budapest pinpointed yesterday that the agreement concerning the lease was given because he considered that "The spectacle and the reception can help the two countries,Hungary and Romania,get closer to one another via culture and art,despite the not so pleasant past. Unfortunately back then I didn't understand that my decision will be easily misinterpreted and it may hurt the feelings of many Hungarians. While I consider the pains of the past should be resolved responsibly and in an European fashion ,being the head of one of the most important public cultural institutions,I can't ignore what happened", said Alfoldi for MTI."

Also this year the mayor of Budapest changed the historic flag of the city because "it looked too romanian".

http://www.dteurope.com/diplomacy-and-life/news/budapest-changes-flag.html

So you pretend that you didn't seen my translation of the content of those articles. You just proven how dishonest you are. Is that all you found of the horrible mistreatment of Romanians in Hungary? That they forbid Romanians to celebrate their national day in the National Theater in Budapest, a national day of yours which is a national mourning day for us? Because you celebrate on December the 1st the union of Transylvania with Romania. What normal and patriotic country would permit that the country that took their lands away to celebrate it in their national theater? This is just a ridiculous and outrageous claim of yours. Aren't you even ashamed to accuse us with such immature claims?

[Balmung]

And you look like metrosexual swede in your avatar.

I don't think you understand what a Metrosexual is or looks like. I throw on a T shirt, some jeans, and a hoody and i'm good to go. There is nothing Metrosexual in that at all. Quite the opposite, actualy.

[Unurautare]

So you pretend that you didn't seen my translation of the content of those articles. You just proven how dishonest you are. Is that all you found of the horrible mistreatment of Romanians in Hungary? That they forbid Romanians to celebrate their national day in the National Theater in Budapest, a national day of yours which is a national mourning day for us? Because you celebrate on December the 1st the union of Transylvania with Romania. What normal and patriotic country would permit that the country that took their lands away to celebrate it in their national theater? This is just a ridiculous and outrageous claim of yours. Aren't you even ashamed to accuse us with such immature claims?

I read that and you said,that you don't know the identity but you still said that you blame the Romanians for burning their own church...are you mad?:mad:
TRANSYLANIA IS NOT YOUR LAND! And the majority of the population of Transylvania,including the saxons,voted to unify with Romania. Point is you're acting like a bunch butthurts bullies and channeling your anger at defenseless Romanians,like in 1940. Even more banning year old Romanian tradition and even changing the capital's flag. Hungary is "European" indeed.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

I read that and you said,that you don't know the identity but you still said that you blame the Romanians for burning their own church...are you mad?:mad:
TRANSYLANIA IS NOT YOUR LAND! And the majority of the population of Transylvania,including the saxons,voted to unify with Romania. Point is you're acting like a bunch butthurts bullies and channeling your anger at defenseless Romanians,like in 1940. Even more banning year old Romanian tradition and even changing the capital's flag. Hungary is "European" indeed.

I think I came to the conclusion that to argue with you furthermore is pointless since you seem to be more heavy in the head, and you understand simple things slower. I am simply baffled to follow your train of thought. What will you come up next? (PS. rhetorical question)

[Incal]

Like? Its women. Dislike? Its gypsies probably.

[Loddfafner]

Like? Lots of skinheads; great architecture; the Christian Art Museum in Esztergom; the setting of Budapest; "Statue Park"; goulash; the irony of a landlocked nation having been ruled by an admiral.

Dislike? Their impatience toward people who don't speak their language; old ladies scolding random strangers; irritating irredentism; the level of corruption and petty predatory behavior towards tourists. In several countries, I have held open handfuls of change to shopkeepers. In Prague, Poland, and Romania, they picked out what seemed to be correct change but in Hungary they would pick out the big pieces. In Budapest, the subway system can be confusing, and policemen actively look for lost foreigners to impose fines on. They were visibly disappointed when I showed them I had the correct ticket. Train conductors in Hungary (as well as Slovakia) look for minor irregularities in tickets so as to extract bribes form baffled passengers.

[HungAryan]

Sagitta Hungarica, you should ignore that Vlach gypsy named Unumature or whatever is his.
All Romanians are idiots like him. Vlachs are pussies who are afraid of pain. The truth hurts, therefore they can't handle the Truth.

Transylvania is Hungary!

[Unurautare]

Sagitta Hungarica, you should ignore that Vlach gypsy named Unumature or whatever is his.
All Romanians are idiots like him. Vlachs are pussies who are afraid of pain. The truth hurts, therefore they can't handle the Truth.

Transylvania is Hungary!

Judeus,you have gypsies on your mind, can you write anything without adding the word "gypsy"?
You're a anti-European revisionist warmongering Hungarian troll,what more can I say? May your ban come quick and painless. :coffee:

[HungAryan]

You're a anti-European revisionist warmongering Hungarian troll,what more can I say?
1. What makes me anti-European?
2. What's wrong with begin revisionist?
3. What's wrong with warmongering?
4. I am not a troll.

May your ban come quick and painless
Yeah, sure.

[Unurautare]

1. What makes me anti-European?


Your frustrated insults of Romanians and calling me a vlah gypsy goes against the rules and against civil conduct(you think I can't insult you back by calling you names and shitting on your entire people? but you don't see that happening):


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2. What's wrong with begin revisionist?
3. What's wrong with warmongering?

Nothing as long as you don't wear your keyboard out in saying stuff like "vlah gypsy" and that Transylvania(Romanian land and part of Romania) is yours,thus provoking other users.




4. I am not a troll.

Then go live in a cave if you can't be civil. :coffee:

[turbogirl]

[QUOTE=IVDEVS_AVGVSTVS;570854]Sagitta Hungarica, you should ignore that Vlach gypsy named Unumature or whatever is his.
All Romanians are idiots like him. Vlachs are pussies who are afraid of pain.
Grrr where did you learn to speak in such ugly manner? At Saint Letshateeverybodyandeverythingnothungarian College, the one from Stupidstown? I'm ashamed to share 1/4 of my ethnic background and my religion with somebody like you, YUK

[Sagitta Hungarica]

[QUOTE=IVDEVS_AVGVSTVS;570854]Sagitta Hungarica, you should ignore that Vlach gypsy named Unumature or whatever is his.
All Romanians are idiots like him. Vlachs are pussies who are afraid of pain.
Grrr where did you learn to speak in such ugly manner? At Saint Letshateeverybodyandeverythingnothungarian College, the one from Stupidstown? I'm ashamed to share 1/4 of my ethnic background and my religion with somebody like you, YUK

That's a rush statement, which comes for you being still quite young. You shouldn't discredit your heritage because of one person. It's a very immature thing to do.

[Unurautare]

That's a rush statement, which comes for you being still quite young. You shouldn't discredit your heritage because of one person. It's a very immature thing to do.

She at least named her national origins outright. Why do you think I have "Habsburg empire" at the description? :rolleyes: I too am ashamed to name the country that gives birth to such butthurt anti-european losers today.

I'll let the German continue:
FSOJDdBhwOw

[Sagitta Hungarica]

She at least named her national origins outright. Why do you think I have "Habsburg empire" at the description? :rolleyes: I too am ashamed to name the country that gives birth to such butthurt anti-european losers today.

I'll let the German continue:
FSOJDdBhwOw

Yes, and he supposes to be who so anyone should care about his opinion?

[Unurautare]

Yes, and he supposes to be who so anyone should care about his opinion?

Take it as a neutral view. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf-Dieter_Krause

[HungAryan]

Grrr where did you learn to speak in such ugly manner? At Saint Letshateeverybodyandeverythingnothungarian College, the one from Stupidstown?
:rotfl: :1127: :rotfl2

I'm ashamed to share 1/4 of my ethnic background and my religion with somebody like you, YUK

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Miyamoto_Middle_Finger.jpg

[Unurautare]

@IVDEVS_AVGVSTVS Congratulations,you're beyond animal if you even think about insulting a woman in such a manner,not to mention actually doing it.

[HungAryan]

@IVDEVS_AVGVSTVS Congratulations,you're beyond animal if you even think about insulting a woman in such a manner,not to mention actually doing it.

Anti-Hungary = Enemy to me, regardless of gender

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Take it as a neutral view. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf-Dieter_Krause

I don't think you speak German, because you totally haven't understood what he said. He basically considers unacceptable that Hungary dares to adopt a new Constitution, which to him are against the European values. But more exactly he just portrays the same fears of liberals, pro-EU tools, that Hungary's new Constitution dares to look back with pride to its past, declare that they acknowledge that the Hungarian state is a Christians one (yes, this is a hugely discriminatory statement in Zionist controlled EU). I quote some of what he says "With this Constitution Hungary doesn't belong to the EU. This is a disgrace to Europe, but Europe is saying nothing". Yes, and Europe equals EU, and the interests of Europe are also the interests of the EU. If you agree with his conclusions, than you are obviously some EU-tool yourself, fearing this globalist trans-national institution will function less productively with a defying Hungary, which dares to take pride of its nation in its new Constitution. But to an incurable naive as you he is just being neutral :confused:. Yeah right, just go to the Marxist-liberal rallies in Hungary, they would welcome you with open arms :D. At least both of you use the same ignorant and clueless arguments and sources when criticizing Hungary. Don't you see that you keep on failing every time when you try to bash Hungarians. Is this one of your national traits? ;)

[Unurautare]

I don't think you speak German, because you totally haven't understood what he said. He basically considers unacceptable that Hungary dares to adopt a new Constitution, which to him are against the European values. But more exactly he just portrays the same fears of liberals, pro-EU tools, that Hungary's new Constitution dares to look back with pride to its past, declare that they acknowledge that the Hungarian state is a Christians one (yes, this is a hugely discriminatory statement in Zionist controlled EU). I quote some of what he says "With this Constitution Hungary doesn't belong to the EU. This is a disgrace to Europe, but Europe is saying nothing". Yes, and Europe equals EU, and the interests of Europe are also the interests of the EU. If you agree with his conclusions, than you are obviously some EU-tool yourself, fearing this globalist trans-national institution will function less productively with a defying Hungary, which dares to take pride of its nation in its new Constitution. But to an incurable naive as you he is just being neutral :confused:. Yeah right, just go to the Marxist-liberal rallies in Hungary, they would welcome you with open arms :D. At least both of you use the same ignorant and clueless arguments and sources when criticizing Hungary. Don't you see that you keep on failing every time when you try to bash Hungarians. Is this one of your national traits? ;)

It's about Hungary banning free speech in the MASS MEDIA and other things that are more reminiscent of a dictatorship than a current European country,besides the other stuff I've written that are anti-European from Hungarians. Don't you see that you cannot into European languages? Is this one of your national traits? ;)

[HungAryan]

Don't you see that you cannot into European languages? Is this one of your national traits? ;)

Don't you see you completely lack the ability to reason and make up believable lies? :p

[Unurautare]

Don't you see you completely lack the ability to reason and make up believable lies? :p

Of course I can't,after all I'm not Hungarian. I can't even lie,let alone make believable lies. :p

[turbogirl]

[QUOTE=turbogirl;571763]

That's a rush statement, which comes for you being still quite young. You shouldn't discredit your heritage because of one person. It's a very immature thing to do.

How I discredit my heritage? Only because I say that what that dude said it's stupid and I'm ashamed to share same blood with a stupid :confused:?I may be young but I'm not unaware of what and who I am. My best friend and the woman who understand me always is my grandmother and she's hungarian!How could I disrespect her?

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Of course I can't,after all I'm not Hungarian. I can't even lie,let alone make believable lies. :p

Your constant struggling in discrediting Hungary, with presenting more and more laughable sources, is as painful to read, as it is to a fish to swim on open soil. Trust me, you are creating more bad name to your countrymen, who even without your messages here, are already having doors shut in their faces everywhere they go in Europe. At least you are keeping the nomadic spirit alive in 21st century Europe :D

[Unurautare]

Your constant struggling in discrediting Hungary, with presenting more and more laughable sources, is as painful to read, as it is to a fish to swim on open soil. Trust me, you are creating more bad name to your countrymen, who even without your messages here, are already having doors shut in their faces everywhere they go in Europe.:D

There is no struggle at all,Hungary itself is doing a fine job,I'm simply relating the news,that's what this thread is about.


At least you are keeping the nomadic spirit alive in 21st century Europe :D

So you consider me an honorary hungarian,how sweet of you but I don't have a tent,can I borrow yours? :)

[Sagitta Hungarica]

There is no struggle at all,Hungary itself is doing a fine job,I'm simply relating the news,that's what this thread is about.



So you consider me an honorary hungarian,how sweet of you but I don't have a tent,can I borrow yours? :)

A thinking person never posts news from sources that are biased, and their message has a clearly predefined motivation if it comes in correlation to a subject, in which they have an interest to deform the people's attention from the truth. You clearly posted a biased, pro-EU point of view, which had as subject Hungary being out of the "EU-norms". You still have to learn a lot about how to chose, read and understand the news you read from various news channels, sources. Obviously you are not yet prepared to perceive the hidden intentions in news, through your messages you just portray sheer naivety, mindset of the flock.

[turbogirl]

Anti-Hungary = Enemy to me, regardless of gender

So if I'm anti-YOU, I'm anti-Hungary or anti-hungarians? Where did you discovered that horrible thing? And you can eat your little.... what you show me!

[HungAryan]

So if I'm anti-YOU, I'm anti-Hungary or anti-hungarians? Where did you discovered that horrible thing? And you can eat your little.... what you show me!

You said yourself that you are ashamed to be 1/4 Hungarian.
That sounds anti-Hungary to me.

[turbogirl]

You said yourself that you are ashamed to be 1/4 Hungarian.
That sounds anti-Hungary to me.

I said I'm ashamed to share same blood with people like you! I'm also ashamed to share the same blood with stupid racist nordicists from Iceland and with morons like that Fonar guy from Romania! How could I be ashamed for havin' the same blood as my grandmother, since she's the person I love most?!

[Chronos]

Perhaps I am a bit disillusioned, having left Romania as a child, but could someone please explain to me why there is so much bickering between Hungarians and Romanians? I used to live in a city with many Hungarians (Satu Mare), and some of them were my best friends. We got along great.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Perhaps I am a bit disillusioned, having left Romania as a child, but could someone please explain to me why there is so much bickering between Hungarians and Romanians? I used to live in a city with many Hungarians (Satu Mare), and some of them were my best friends. We got along great.

Romanians are stubborn mules about righteous Hungarian demands. That's pretty much the seed of this misunderstanding.

[Talvi]

Dislike: People dont seem to speak English.

Some 8 years ago I was on a school trip somewhere in Hungary and got lost with my friends. And absolutely nobody was able to help us because they didnt speak any English at all!!!

[Caeruleus]

Perhaps I am a bit disillusioned, having left Romania as a child, but could someone please explain to me why there is so much bickering between Hungarians and Romanians? I used to live in a city with many Hungarians (Satu Mare), and some of them were my best friends. We got along great.

Sagitta Hungarica trolling romanian threads

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[Sagitta Hungarica]

Dislike: People dont seem to speak English.

Some 8 years ago I was on a school trip somewhere in Hungary and got lost with my friends. And absolutely nobody was able to help us because they didnt speak any English at all!!!

Well adults and older people, and especially in the rural aria don't speak any English, because in Communism they had to learn Russian. But the younger generations mostly speak English, and even many adults and some older people in cities. I think it is similar in most countries that were under Communist rule.

[Albion]

Dislike:


How they fantasize about the Germans and many about National Socialism, it's like the whole nation is obsessed.
Turanism and attempts to link Hungary with non-European / white steppe nations. Magyars were European steppe peoples who were mostly displaced by Asian Turkics and Mongols so it is wrong to make up fantasies about shared links to these peoples.
Hungarians claiming lands outside of Hungary (except the Hungarian areas in Romania and S. Slovakia - the rest Hungarians are a minority in).


Like:


Preservation of European steppe cultures to some degree
Budapest
Everything else

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Dislike:


How they fantasize about the Germans and many about National Socialism, it's like the whole nation is obsessed.
Turanism and attempts to link Hungary with non-European / white steppe nations. Magyars were European steppe peoples who were mostly displaced by Asian Turkics and Mongols so it is wrong to make up fantasies about shared links to these peoples.
Hungarians claiming lands outside of Hungary (except the Hungarian areas in Romania and S. Slovakia - the rest Hungarians are a minority in).


Like:


Preservation of European steppe cultures to some degree
Budapest
Everything else


It has to be mentioned that these two categories are a minority. I can assure you that the whole nation isn't obsessed with the Germans. Have you spoken with hundreds, thousands of Hungarians to make such a generalization? By the contrary, Hungarians are isolationists and individualists mostly, don't care much about things outside Hungary. This is both a good and a bad thing in my opinion. Regarding Turanian wannabes, they exist on a certain level, but are not characteristic to our entire nation.

[Absinthe]

I think this is a phenomenon that has to do with Hungarians frequenting specific fora on the internet that are of specific racialist interest :D

My friends who've lived and studied in Budapest have never mentioned any Hungarians they've met being obsessed with Germany and National Socialism :P

[Sagitta Hungarica]

I think this is a phenomenon that has to do with Hungarians frequenting specific fora on the internet that are of specific racialist interest :D

My friends who've lived and studied in Budapest have never mentioned any Hungarians they've met being obsessed with Germany and National Socialism :P

Hungarians who are active members on European, White preservationist forums do have a very favorable opinion on Germans usually, and often are sympathetic to National Socialism. But as in every nation, such people, who care about socializing about preservation on international forums are a rather small minority. There is even a smaller level of animosity towards Austrians in Hungary, because some people still cannot forgive them for the oppression they put us through, but they are also a small minority.

[Aces High]

Within the oil world its known as a top destination to get posted to,ive been told its because the place is spotless,the people polite and the countryside is nice.

(there is also the crumpet factor which goes without saying)

[The Journeyman]

IMO, the Hungarian Black Army was one of the finest European military forces ever. And of course, Janos Hunyadi.

I also love Hungarian food. I had some chicken paprikash yesterday, so tasty.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

IMO, the Hungarian Black Army was one of the finest European military forces ever. And of course, Janos Hunyadi.

I also love Hungarian food. I had some chicken paprikash yesterday, so tasty.

Kudos for remembering the glorious Fekete sereg :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Knight_of_black_army.png

[Incal]

Even I, spic and all know about Janos Hunyadi. I have 2 hungarian friends (females :D) and I fuckin adore them.

[Chronos]

None of the Hungarians I've spoken to had any feelings of wanting to attain a proverbial "Greater Hungary".

[Sagitta Hungarica]

None of the Hungarians I've spoken to had any feelings of wanting to attain a proverbial "Greater Hungary".

If they don't speak of it openly doesn't mean they don't think about it ;)

[Viljuska]

+ Hungarian women, and food :thumb001:

- The language sounds weird :p

[Szegedist]

Dislike:

How they fantasize about the Germans and many about National Socialism, it's like the whole nation is obsessed.

This is a common misconception which I see a lot. It is absolutely nonsense to mix Hungary with Nazism or Fascism.
As for Germanophilia, it does exist, it also exists in Poland, Russia, I saw many pro Nazi&German Englishmen. So Hungary is not alone in this, but its certainly not more than any other country, maybe even less because as another said above, we are very individualist and freedom oriented.

I see this often on the internet, "German-Hungarian brotherhood", this is mainly propagated by Skinheads and neo-nazis, who make up a negligible segment of Hungarian society, but they are very loud on the internet, which gives the wrong image about Hungarians.

In reality, it is unlucky fate that Hungary ended up allied with the Germans in Two World Wars. Our leadership were mostly conservatives (there were some pro German nazi sympathisers), but many were more pro British, American.

Horthy himself was an Anglophile who despised both Nazism and Communism, but he tried to do best given our absolutely shitty situation.
We were left impotent after Trianon, had a population of about 9 million, and to our West we had the Third Reich, to our East the USSR, f..k that.... our aim was survival (remain independent) while recovering territories.



Turanism and attempts to link Hungary with non-European / white steppe nations. Magyars were European steppe peoples who were mostly displaced by Asian Turkics and Mongols so it is wrong to make up fantasies about shared links to these peoples.
I thought we were from Mongolia....


Hungarians claiming lands outside of Hungary (except the Hungarian areas in Romania and S. Slovakia - the rest Hungarians are a minority in).
Hungarian nationalism is not ethnic racism like German nationalism or English nationalism.
Our concept of the nation coincides with the concept of the state, so I don't see why we should discriminate against Slovaks because their language is different to ours, we belong in the same state.

The concept of "great" (read normal sized) Hungary also heavily revolves around Monarchism, lands that belong to the crown.

[Szegedist]

Every nation has positive and negative aspects. Which are those in the case of Hungarians?

You are stupid for opening this thread, begging for attention from others... who gives a sh....t if others like us or not. You need to hear opinion to feel better?

[Szegedist]

Oh oops, I see this thread is form 2011.. sorry for bumping it, I just saw it on "similar threads" so I replied.

[Albion]

This is a common misconception which I see a lot. It is absolutely nonsense to mix Hungary with Nazism or Fascism.
As for Germanophilia, it does exist, it also exists in Poland, Russia, I saw many pro Nazi&German Englishmen. So Hungary is not alone in this, but its certainly not more than any other country, maybe even less because as another said above, we are very individualist and freedom oriented.

I see this often on the internet, "German-Hungarian brotherhood", this is mainly propagated by Skinheads and neo-nazis, who make up a negligible segment of Hungarian society, but they are very loud on the internet, which gives the wrong image about Hungarians.

In reality, it is unlucky fate that Hungary ended up allied with the Germans in Two World Wars. Our leadership were mostly conservatives (there were some pro German nazi sympathisers), but many were more pro British, American.

Horthy himself was an Anglophile who despised both Nazism and Communism, but he tried to do best given our absolutely shitty situation.
We were left impotent after Trianon, had a population of about 9 million, and to our West we had the Third Reich, to our East the USSR, f..k that.... our aim was survival (remain independent) while recovering territories.

Hungarian National Socialists aremassively over-represented on the internet. Yeah, you had a bad geographical location in the world wars.


I thought we were from Mongolia....

I'm getting fed up of this, everyone saying they're Mongolian is getting old now.


Hungarian nationalism is not ethnic racism like German nationalism or English nationalism.
Our concept of the nation coincides with the concept of the state, so I don't see why we should discriminate against Slovaks because their language is different to ours, we belong in the same state.

The concept of "great" (read normal sized) Hungary also heavily revolves around Monarchism, lands that belong to the crown.

This is more akin to French or British nationalism I guess, but it has little basis if the other peoples want out. This is the problem with British nationalists - they'll belittle and attack the nations of the UK in order to bully and scare them into remaining in the union. They even attempt it with England, which is laughable because England practically is the UK, 90% population, 85% economy and 2/3 of the land basically is.

[Szegedist]

Hungarian National Socialists aremassively over-represented on the internet.
The majority of Hungarian nationalists are simply conservatives, many with royalist/monarchist tendencies, but no nazism.


Yeah, you had a bad geographical location in the world wars.
Especially political, we wanted good relations with Britain and USA, but it was not possible.

For example, Prime Minister Teleki

In his diaries, Italian Foreign Minister and Mussolini's son-in-law Galeazzo Ciano wrote that during a visit to Rome by Teleki in March 1940, Teleki "has avoided taking any open position one way or the other but has not hidden his sympathy for the Western Powers and fears an integral German victory like the plague." Ciano reported that Teleki later said that he hoped "for the defeat of Germany, not a complete defeat—that might provoke violent shocks—but a kind of defeat that would blunt her teeth and claws for a long time



I'm getting fed up of this, everyone saying they're Mongolian is getting old now.
Its the first thing we are accused of.




This is more akin to French or British nationalism I guess, but it has little basis if the other peoples want out. This is the problem with British nationalists - they'll belittle and attack the nations of the UK in order to bully and scare them into remaining in the union. They even attempt it with England, which is laughable because England practically is the UK, 90% population, 85% economy and 2/3 of the land basically is.

I will put it simply, if Hungarian economical situation was a lot better compared to our neighbouring countries, then you
would see a lot more "reunion" movements. Because that is what the average person cares about, the rest is politics.



The problem with central Europe are too many small little states, which are politically and economically impotent.
We must overcome this division

[Stears]

Hungarian cultural superiority over orthodox slavic ( "Eurasian" pravoslav) civilization.

Culture of Medieval Hungary (architecture, sculpture paintings and music)

MY NEW VIDEO !!! Watch in Full HD!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yagRGPjzChc

[Albion]

Hungarian cultural superiority over orthodox slavic ( "Eurasian" pravoslav) civilization.

Culture of Medieval Hungary (architecture, sculpture paintings and music)

MY NEW VIDEO !!! Watch in Full HD!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yagRGPjzChc

Video has been removed by user - why?

[Busra-TURK]

I do not know any hungarian in person... but there is a cultural, historical and racial bond between them and us Türks. they are the grandchildren of Attila and i appreciate their history!!! i feel they are very close to us and our blood is the same actually...
in short,i really do love the Hungarians! Turkic nations are all my brothers...

[Cern]

in short,i really do love the Hungarians!

Thank you! :) The truth Hungarians are genetically central-europeans and closest to the neighbors. But they have a strong identity, this connects the steppe/turan "ancestors" and history. ;)

[Busra-TURK]

Thank you! :) The truth Hungarians are genetically central-europeans and closest to the neighbors. But they have a strong identity, this connects the steppe/turan "ancestors" and history. ;)
Mindannyian Atilla unokai vagyunk, hajra Turan, hajra Jobbik!!!!!!! :-)

[Albion]

I do not know any hungarian in person... but there is a cultural, historical and racial bond between them and us Türks. they are the grandchildren of Attila and i appreciate their history!!! i feel they are very close to us and our blood is the same actually...
in short,i really do love the Hungarians! Turkic nations are all my brothers...

Despite much of Hungarian-Turkish history being one long fight?

[Kiyant]

Despite much of Hungarian-Turkish history being one long fight?

Which is pretty normal for Steppe people to always kill each other. (example:Timurids and Ottoman empire)

[Stears]

Video has been removed by user - why?

Because it was expanded , and uploaded again. Watch in full HD!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQL60doCCgk

[Stears]

Thank you! :) The truth Hungarians are genetically central-europeans and closest to the neighbors. But they have a strong identity, this connects the steppe/turan "ancestors" and history. ;)

The fantastic Turanism did not exist until the 19th century, therefore Turan culture is quite strange.....

[SabirHunOgur]

Sicilians are runic writer agglutinative speaker Siculs (Székely Huns)

[SabirHunOgur]

Well most of genetic study have many conclusions.
Ornella Semino and another italian said steppic origin of modern magyars.(Pontic steppe, kurgan origin)
Raskó team found many J in Székelys (fertile cerscent ,Mezopotamia)
Cavally-Sforza (like you) support magyarized neighbour story..
Bíró found Tadjik,Üzbeg, Türkmen, Ujgur, German,
Turkish, Bulgar,
Ukran, Ossethian, Rusian brothership from Y dna.
Gyula Henkey typized Central Asian dominance in willage and "field dcity" population (fenotypes)

But the justice is the Carpathian neolitic autochton+steppic cultures+magyarized neighbours together are the Modern Hungarians. But the most important is the Nimród-Hunor-Atilla-Álmos-Árpád line, they spoke in Magyar,Old-Bulgar and theirs fenotypes are the dominant in villages and field cities which regios are svabian,slav free regios coz the neighbours migrated to cities mostly.
Many semples from Budapest, Debrecen, Nagykanizsa,Nyíregyháza and another mixed cities, multinational centers...

[Stears]

Well most of genetic study have many conclusions. Ornella Semino and another italian said steppic origin of modern magyars.(Pontic steppe, kurgan origin) Raskó team found many J in Székelys (fertile cerscent ,Mezopotamia) Cavally-Sforza (like you) support magyarized neighbour story.. Bíró found Tadjik,Üzbeg, Türkmen, Ujgur, German, Turkish, Bulgar, Ukran, Ossethian, Rusian brothership from Y dna. Gyula Henkey typized Central Asian dominance in willage and "field dcity" population (fenotypes) But the justice is the Carpathian neolitic autochton+steppic cultures+magyarized neighbours together are the Modern Hungarians. But the most important is the Nimród-Hunor-Atilla-Álmos-Árpád line, they spoke in Magyar,Old-Bulgar and theirs fenotypes are the dominant in villages and field cities which regios are svabian,slav free regios coz the neighbours migrated to cities mostly. Many semples from Budapest, Debrecen, Nagykanizsa,Nyíregyháza and another mixed cities, multinational centers... Hahaha failed attempts to falsify Hungarian history! Hey cuman-survivor, the way is free for you to move to romania bulgaria, where your cuman cousins live in higher ratio. Or go home to azerbajan, where you came.

[Mortimer]

i like the food and pretty girls, the music and dance
dislike the racist hungarians who are assholes

[Dombra]

I like the people, culture, food etc.

I dislike when they think they are Altaic and not Ugric and the Jobbik extremists :(

[Kiyant]

I like the people, culture, food etc.

I dislike when they think they are Altaic and not Ugric and the Jobbik extremists :(

Altaics and Finno-Ugrics are bros :)

[Borna]

I love their medieval music, i really like their cuisine (Lots of meat) i generally like their language although i will never learn it. I like them because they are our best neighbors, we stood together lot of times in history.

What i don't like is imperialism, specially one concerning my region of Slavonia, as well i dont like that some of their nationalists are spreading that "Turanism" shit, Hungarians are white central Europeans, they don't need bond with Turkey and some Tatar tribes, when both Poland and Croatia are here.

[Vlach]

If they don't speak of it openly doesn't mean they don't think about it ;)

Yes, I have hungarians friends and somewhere hidden in their heart is that fantasy dream.
Well, the hungarians from Timisoara and Transylvania,Maramures are normal people like us and they are not stupid separatist nationalist like the hungarians from Harghita and Covasna. I go in every year in Harghita and Covasna and this pieces of shits cant fucking speak romanian/english, I feel like in Zimbabwe, and they are unfriendly they are not like the other hungarians from the other regions.

[zhaoyun]

I've met a few Hungarians so my opinion is based on the few I've met, which was only a handful.

Likes: Intelligent, courteous, conscientious, cultured, genuine

Dislikes: Stears

[ProTroll]

Like:When Budapest was under Romanian Occupation
Dislike:Their national football team

[Queen B]

Hungary was never much of importance or attention to Greece and Greeks.
Due to their communism years, it was just another country from the Eastern Bloc.

One think that I like is Budapest though. It seems beautiful.
I haven't really met any Hungarians, but if apprecity is an indication, I'm afraid they are sociopaths.

[Dictator]

Stears is the answer for both questions.

[Stears]

Hungary was never much of importance or attention to Greece and Greeks. Due to their communism years, it was just another country from the Eastern Bloc. One think that I like is Budapest though. It seems beautiful. I haven't really met any Hungarians, but if apprecity is an indication, I'm afraid they are sociopaths. How ancient greeks related to modern neo "greeks"? Why were you unimportant since the XIIth century? Why were you negligible in science and technology in the 2nd millenium? Because you are not direct descendants of ancient greeks. You were the country of continous organized enormous mass migrations from asia. Even the greek language was spoken by minority after the Ottoman wars. Greece was absolute unimportant place, its population was tiny 100 years ago, its industrialization started only after the ww2. Its general infrastructural level was not very european before the late 1980s

[Stears]

Like:When Budapest was under Romanian Occupation Dislike:Their national football team You are wrong.Austria Hungary had 9 million soldiers (fighting forces were 7,2 million)itself Kingdom of Hungary drafted 4 million soldiers (more than the total male population of preWW1 Kingdom of Romania).The majority (75%) of the army of Hungarian kingdom was Hungarian,and the majority was German speaking in the Austrian part of the Empire.By a notion of Woodrow Wilson's pacifism, Mihály Károlyi ordered the full disarmament of Hungarian Army.It contained more than 1,4 M. soldiers. By_a_notion of Woodrow Wilson's pacifism, Mihály Károlyi ordered the full disarmament of Hungarian Army.It contained more than 1,4 M. soldiers.Don't forget, the timed attack of "brave" Czechs Slovaks Serbs Romanians started after the Hungarian self-disarmament. These nations proclaimed a NEW war after the end of ww1(!), and attacked a self-disarmed country to steal lands, which was never were parts of their states. Their politicians agitated against the "people's self determination idea (Wilson) at the Western Entente powers, to avoid any plebiscites/referendums of the local population of the disputed territories.

[Stears]

Yes, I have hungarians friends and somewhere hidden in their heart is that fantasy dream. Well, the hungarians from Timisoara and Transylvania,Maramures are normal people like us and they are not stupid separatist nationalist like the hungarians from Harghita and Covasna. I go in every year in Harghita and Covasna and this pieces of shits cant fucking speak romanian/english, I feel like in Zimbabwe, and they are unfriendly they are not like the other hungarians from the other regions. Minoroty rights and autonomy rights (which is part of constitutional order in Western European countries) are separatism and extremism for the romanians, where the wildest primitive late 18th century jacobine style nation-state ideology is still the basic element of the romanian identity.

[ProTroll]

bozgor gypsy

An introductive video of the Hungarian Romanian War


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXIuOuI02E

The Romanians saved the magyars from the judeo-bolshevik governent of Bela-Kun,otherwise their fate would be thatof bolshevik russia(27 million dead).To this day,Hungary didn't thanked Romania for their contribution of stopping communism in the west.

[ProTroll]

The way Budapest was captured in 1919 is interesting in itself.

On August 3rd 1919 4 cavalry squadrons (400 soldiers) led by colonel Rusescu arrive on the outskirts of Budapest (at the time a 1 million people city). Colonel Rusescu's detachment was on an advanced scouting mission, 1 day ahead of the Romanian army. Worried the retreating Hungarian units might decide to defend Budapest Rusescu decides to bluff the city into surrendering.

He presents the authorities in Budapest with a stern ultimatum: the Romanian artillery batteries are aimed at the city and unless he returns with the immediate unconditional surrender the bombardment would start in 60 minutes. What he doesn't tell is the "Romanian artillery batteries" are actually two light artillery pieces, completely outnumbered, outranged and outguned by what the city has in its barracks. Budapest surrenders.

Hungary is the only country in the world who surrendered they're capital with absolutely NO FIGHT.Asians are world-renown for the're cowardice and the magyars are no exception.

[Stears]

An introductive video of the Hungarian Romanian War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXIuOuI02E The Romanians saved the magyars from the judeo-bolshevik governent of Bela-Kun,otherwise their fate would be thatof bolshevik russia(27 million dead).To this day,Hungary didn't thanked Romania for their contribution of stopping communism in the west. Please do not lie, Romanians attacked a liberal democratic Hungarian government of Mihály Károlyi, Romanians crossed river Tisza (200km from Budapest), when communist Kun government made putsch (Kun Jewish government was unable to control Hungary outside Budapest) So the attacks of Czechs Serbian-French and romanian armies fought not against communism but agains a disarmed Hungary led by democratic liberal Károlyi government, they simply wanted land-steal. So the primitive liar propaganda video does not interest about the timeline and chronology of the events.

[Fakirbakir]

Hungary was never much of importance or attention to Greece and Greeks.
Due to their communism years, it was just another country from the Eastern Bloc.

One think that I like is Budapest though. It seems beautiful.
I haven't really met any Hungarians, but if apprecity is an indication, I'm afraid they are sociopaths.

Have you heard about the Greek community in Hungary? The Communist regime in the fifties established a new settlement for Greek refugees called Beloiannisz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Hungary

[LightHouse89]

I dislike how they can look like mannequins in a shop window. Other than that I do not dislike them.....they do get a bit Hungry sometimes though, but that must come with the territory.

[Queen B]

Have you heard about the Greek community in Hungary? The Communist regime in the fifties established a new settlement for Greek refugees called Beloiannisz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Hungary

The question of this thread is about what do we like and don't like about Hungarians.
Can't just someone say his opinion withouth the blabla bullshit coming from Stears, or links about 2000 communists that fled to Hungary?

:picard2:

[alfieb]

I don't like the whole 'surname before given name' thing. I get that you guys are originally Asiatic people in origin, but you've been in Europe for over 1000 years and adopted the Latin alphabet and Latin religion.

I like Jobbik.

[Guapo]

What do you like about Hungarians?

their pussy


What do you don't like about Hungarians?

their pussy looking men like stears

[ProTroll]

Cancer patient-looking

The asiatic mentality can be still observed in the above magyar posts.Hungarians deny history,deny all of they're lost battles,deny everything.

Myth:Magyars have 12 nobel prize winners
Fact:Out of those 12,11 are jews and the last one is magyar

Myth:Magyars had only hungarian kings in the kingdom of hungary
Fact:Hungarians had only 1 ethnic hungarian king,and that is Stephen I.After him,all of they're kings were everything but hungarian.They're most adored king,is Matthias Corvinus which was half-romanian.Hungary experienced renaissance,military conquests,economic prosperiy in his era.To this day the magyars deny his romanian origin,even if the truth is stated in all of the moderm encyclopedias.Everything that is good in hungary is because of the foreigners.

Myth:Hungary defended europe from muslims
Fact:The magyars defended europe in the era of Iancu de Hunedoara(John Hunyadi,who is the father of Matthias Corvinus) who was voivode of transylvania and an ethnic romanian and the bulk of his armies(over 50%) were of romanian origin.Every battle that the magyars won against the muslims were in his era.After he died,hungary imediately succumbed to the ottomans at the battle of Mohacs

[Guapo]

I don't like the whole 'surname before given name' thing. I get that you guys are originally Asiatic people in origin, but you've been in Europe for over 1000 years and adopted the Latin alphabet and Latin religion.

I like Jobbik.
I'm sure Jobbik would think you're a slovak gypsy

[Xanthias]

What I don't like: that they are in Europe.
what I like: that they will probably move back in central asia.

[alfieb]

I'm sure Jobbik would think you're a slovak gypsy

Don't care what they think about me. I'm never stepping foot in their country.

Other than Greece, Albania, Romania, and Istanbul, there's nowhere in the region that I would pay money to go.

[ProTroll]

Hungarians have the highest percent of gypsy blood from all europe!

Hungarians Haplogroups:

R1b:18.1 Germanic/Celtic
R1a:25.6 Slavic
I1:7.91 North German
I2a:16.74 Thracian/Dacian
I2b:2.79 Thracian/Dacian
I*:0.93 Extra-european
J2:6.51 Roman
J*:3.72 Jewish
G:4.2 Caucasian
N:0.47 Asiatic
H:5.12 Gypsy
R2:0.47 Extra-european
R1*:1.40 Extra-european
E1B1B:6.1 White Berber

Total Non-European Haplogroups:12.50

Source:Völgyi, Antónia; Zalán, Andrea; Szvetnik, Enikő; Pamjav, Horolma (2009). "Hungarian population data for 11 Y-STR and 49 Y-SNP markers". Forensic Science International:

Romanian Haplogroups

R1b:16.1 Germanic/Celtic
R1a:9.7 Slavic
I2:35 Thracian/Dacian
I1:6.9 North German
E1b1b:9.7 White Berber
J2:9.2 Roman
G:12.9 Caucasian
H:0.5 Gypsy

Total Non European Haplogroups:0.5

Source:Bosch, E.; Calafell, F.; González-Neira, A.; Flaiz, C; Mateu, E; Scheil, HG; Huckenbeck, W; Efremovska, L; Mikerezi, I; Xirotiris, N.; Grasa, C.; Schmidt, H.; Comas, D. (2006). "Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns". Annals of Human Genetics 70 (Pt 4): 459–487

Hungarians have the highest gypsy haplogroups from all europe.

Wherever magyars settled
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110311080444/historyatlas/images/2/2f/Kingdom_of_hungary-15th_century.png
Gypsies soon followed
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Romani_population_average_estimate.png

Is it a coincidence that all the territories that were under hungaries jurisdiction today have a high percentage of gypsy?(Slovakia,Transylvania,Voivodina)
I think not

[Fakirbakir]

:pop2:

[Stears]

The asiatic mentality can be still observed in the above magyar posts.Hungarians deny history,deny all of they're lost battles,deny everything. Myth:Magyars have 12 nobel prize winners Fact:Out of those 12,11 are jews and the last one is magyar Myth:Magyars had only hungarian kings in the kingdom of hungary Fact:Hungarians had only 1 ethnic hungarian king,and that is Stephen I.After him,all of they're kings were everything but hungarian.They're most adored king,is Matthias Corvinus which was half-romanian.Hungary experienced renaissance,military conquests,economic prosperiy in his era.To this day the magyars deny his romanian origin,even if the truth is stated in all of the moderm encyclopedias.Everything that is good in hungary is because of the foreigners. Myth:Hungary defended europe from muslims Fact:The magyars defended europe in the era of Iancu de Hunedoara(John Hunyadi,who is the father of Matthias Corvinus) who was voivode of transylvania and an ethnic romanian and the bulk of his armies(over 50%) were of romanian origin.Every battle that the magyars won against the muslims were in his era.After he died,hungary imediately succumbed to the ottomans at the battle of Mohacs My ignorant romanian friend.

12 Hungarian Nobel-prize winners (the ratios are similar in many European countries), only 5 had (often just 50%) jewish backround, however they had no jewish religion, they can't speak Hebrew or Yiddish, their mothertongue were Hungarian, and they consiered themselves as Hungarians in their own curriculum

Orthodox people (especially romanians) can not understand medieval and early moder western history. In western European countries there were no national kings, due to the marriage of convenience dynastic marriages. Of course you can't understand that, because romanian voivods during medieval age were not important as the Hungarian kings who had wifes from French German Italian Polish Byzantine etc.. royal / imperial families. Your medieval and early modern vlach rulers (who were often vassals of Hungarians Polish kings) were not so important to get such important wives.

Yes Hungary defended Europe against Muslims, because we had the geographic position to defend Europe, and you defended the crimean tatars?. We had stone/brick castle-defense systems, you had nothing to stop the turks. It is so simple.

[Stears]

Hungarians have the highest percent of gypsy blood from all europe! Hungarians Haplogroups: R1b:18.1 Germanic/Celtic R1a:25.6 Slavic I1:7.91 North German I2a:16.74 Thracian/Dacian I2b:2.79 Thracian/Dacian I*:0.93 Extra-european J2:6.51 Roman J*:3.72 Jewish G:4.2 Caucasian N:0.47 Asiatic H:5.12 Gypsy R2:0.47 Extra-european R1*:1.40 Extra-european E1B1B:6.1 White Berber Total Non-European Haplogroups:12.50 Source:Völgyi, Antónia; Zalán, Andrea; Szvetnik, Enikő; Pamjav, Horolma (2009). "Hungarian population data for 11 Y-STR and 49 Y-SNP markers". Forensic Science International: Romanian Haplogroups R1b:16.1 Germanic/Celtic R1a:9.7 Slavic I2:35 Thracian/Dacian I1:6.9 North German E1b1b:9.7 White Berber J2:9.2 Roman G:12.9 Caucasian H:0.5 Gypsy Total Non European Haplogroups:0.5 Source:Bosch, E.; Calafell, F.; González-Neira, A.; Flaiz, C; Mateu, E; Scheil, HG; Huckenbeck, W; Efremovska, L; Mikerezi, I; Xirotiris, N.; Grasa, C.; Schmidt, H.; Comas, D. (2006). "Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns". Annals of Human Genetics 70 (Pt 4): 459–487 Hungarians have the highest gypsy haplogroups from all europe. Wherever magyars settled http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110311080444/historyatlas/images/2/2f/Kingdom_of_hungary-15th_century.png Gypsies soon followed http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Romani_population_average_estimate.png Is it a coincidence that all the territories that were under hungaries jurisdiction today have a high percentage of gypsy?(Slovakia,Transylvania,Voivodina) I think not Most gypsy migrated to Hungary from romania (perhaps there were the most, and they enjoyed your similar wog pigmentation and culture, do not forget, vast majority of the romanians were late-nomadic too, when the first gypsy population reached europe) Watch the largest population genetics database of European people: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

ORDER: I1 I2 I2b R1a R1b G J2 J/'J1 E1B1 T Q N
Hungary 8.5 16 2 29.5 18.5 3.5 6.5 3 8 0 0 0.5

Romania (as far as I see afro-asian (middle-eastern) and black genes are relevant in your population.

Romania 4.5 26 2.5 17.5 12 5 13.5 1.5 15 0.5 0.5 0.5

So it is no wonder why your look is less european . Deal with it.

[Fakirbakir]

Other than Greece, Albania, Romania, and Istanbul, there's nowhere in the region that I would pay money to go.

Are you sure?:p

http://paradiseintheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hungary-girls.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-s1LTuQbnwes/T9B32Gt4YpI/AAAAAAAAABE/V6O-ZC29dpM/s1600/balatonicsajok6.jpg
http://www.budapestagent.com/img/grid-girls-budapest.jpg
http://www.pxleyes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/beauties/33.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/Everso_Biggyballies/racecars2008/gridgirlHungary.jpg

[Vlach]

Nice troll fighting

[Vlach]

Are you sure?:p

http://paradiseintheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hungary-girls.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-s1LTuQbnwes/T9B32Gt4YpI/AAAAAAAAABE/V6O-ZC29dpM/s1600/balatonicsajok6.jpg
http://www.budapestagent.com/img/grid-girls-budapest.jpg
http://www.pxleyes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/beauties/33.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/Everso_Biggyballies/racecars2008/gridgirlHungary.jpg

Romanians girls are more beautiful. So yes :P

[Stears]

Hungarian horses were akhal teke (It was prevalent between Central asia to Poland.) The largest horses in the period of the medieval era. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQi5wYNK59aZ165wfsfaF8FG7tKiiq7b r1pu0eVAz1e6cfsQT03

[alfieb]

Are you sure?:p


What good is sex if she can't cook something decent afterwards?

[Stears]

Romanians girls are more beautiful. So yes :P dwarf Wog girls . Romanians does not look good. It is enough to travel to romania.

[Stears]

Hungarians:

http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/cikkek/33000/33325_dobo-kata-380-9019-d00029BE45459abd3a3ed.jpg http://www.szatmar.ro/files/news/mn_1236005508dobo_kata_fo.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/416/csillahorvath.jpg http://www.missbalaton.hu/2007girls/15_serdult3.jpg http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6325/fruzsinabiczova5.jpg http://31.media.tumblr.com/5e030433a7e701f991659e9636253180/tumblr_mw7pekp0cl1qe0g46o1_500.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bZCg4mNAWbI/S4BUtRREDLI/AAAAAAAAEiE/XZEMbCytraM/s1600/Reka_Ebergenyi_14.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Miss_Hungary_07_Krisztina_Bodri.jpg http://www.kepmas.hu/admin/data/file/3623_img_0927_novodomszky_e.jpg http://www.missalpokadria.com/news_images/438/kovacs_nora_magyaro__441_20090225234321_356.gif http://www.missbalaton.hu/KovacsNora/01.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/2ccx9aw.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/axlax2.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2s7cchf.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/jgi0rs.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/2m4ubnk.jpg

[Stears]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2nqtudw.jpg http://blog.lmff.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/url.jpeg http://www.origo.hu/i/1301/20130109-balizs-anett.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/548389_10151623217154147_1131723632_n.jpg https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1424568_10151748676534147_1707291510_n.jpg https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1467382_10151732874054147_14386141_n.jpg http://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/asp_466_agi-5.jpg http://img003.lazygirls.info/people/kata_dobo/kata_dobo_kata_dobo_iaalmU0.sized.jpg http://img003.lazygirls.info/people/kata_dobo/kata_dobo_kata_dobo_0Vl7JqR.sized.jpg

[Stears]

http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/RG1.jpg http://gallery.imgsrv.divat.hu/00/00/82/5949789398267.jpg http://www.vanity.hu/pictures/blog/453/11399_o.jpg http://i1.wp.com/instyle.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/szikszai-johanna-springfield-1.jpg http://www.glamouronline.hu/lapokkepek/cikkek/11000/11670_johanna-new.jpg http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/cikkek/46000/46442_szikszai-johanna-cover-641.jpg http://photopost.blog.cosmopolitan.hu/files/2013/06/Screen-shot-2013-06-20-at-12.51.02-PM1-450x675.png [IMG]http://fidelio.hu/image.ashx?id=a8060505-bb6b-42ce-ae1d-b595da88a808&vid=c9629143-429a-4942-a5aa-93cd255b5ef2 http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1111/20111104-osvart-andrea1.jpg http://starity.hu/images/articles/465x245/magyar-szepsegek-a-victorias-secret-kifutojan-11250954.jpg

[Vlach]

dwarf Wog girls . Romanians does not look good. It is enough to travel to romania.

Lol retard, stop trolling things like this. The whole planet know that the romanian girls are fucking hot. :picard2:

[ProTroll]

Cancer-looking Patent

Once again,the asian mentality is strong in the magyars and they're genetic haplogroups are the proof of this.
The idiot magyar responds to me by giving an url link while i give books published by respectable sources.

Magyars are the most related to gypsies,please the biggest DNA test that ever was performed in Hungary

http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF

The summary of the test at the ending of the article is:

”Some authors used a relatively small number of
participants, contrarily to the Hungarian study,
where we included the highest number of
subjects. Keeping this in view, the smallest
difference is between the Hungarian and the
Indian groups, while the Central-Europeans differ
more. The biggest difference is between the
Hungarians and the Turks, so they seem to be
the most distant relatives.”

The last study on magyars performed by americans said the same thing

http://www.pestiside.hu/20091001/genetic-analysis-reconfirms-that-hungarians-are-europes-asians/

Magyars are not europeans,they are asiatic gypsies.They're haplogroups are a proof of this,they're dna are a proof this,period.

[alfieb]

dwarf Wog girls . Romanians does not look good. It is enough to travel to romania.
Even Romanian parliamentarians look good.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/62862000/jpg/_62862552_62862551.jpg

[Xanthias]

Are you sure?:p

http://paradiseintheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hungary-girls.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-s1LTuQbnwes/T9B32Gt4YpI/AAAAAAAAABE/V6O-ZC29dpM/s1600/balatonicsajok6.jpg
http://www.budapestagent.com/img/grid-girls-budapest.jpg
http://www.pxleyes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/beauties/33.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/Everso_Biggyballies/racecars2008/gridgirlHungary.jpg

MISS PLASTIC HUNGARY !!!!

[ProTroll]

Agree

[Lily]

Stears forgot this one
Watch in HD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XalAnLIM73M

:p

[Partizan]

Like: Cuisine, Turanian history, Kurultaj, warm people, cute girls.
Dislike: Rampant and paranoid anti-semitism, pro-Russian/pro-Iranian towards due to the same reason(blame the Jew game)

[Lily]

What good is sex if she can't cook something decent afterwards?

And if will probably fade one day.

[Chrissi]

Why are there so many threads about hungary and hungarians lately? Are they the new albanians of this forum?

[Stears]

MISS PLASTIC HUNGARY !!!! romanian Wog girls with dyed hair. None of these girls are international supermodels

[Lily]

Why are there so many threads about hungary and hungarians lately? Are they the new albanians of this forum?

They turned it into Hungarians vs Romanians

[Stears]

What I don't like: that they are in Europe. what I like: that they will probably move back in central asia. You are in europe with your dwarf-wog weird look and genetics, and with your primitive backward infrastructure, your 0 contribution in science and technology and your late-nomadic past, with primitive semi-asian orthodox culture.

[ProTroll]

Cancer-looking Patient

http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF

The summary of the test at the ending of the article is:

”Some authors used a relatively small number of
participants, contrarily to the Hungarian study,
where we included the highest number of
subjects. Keeping this in view, the smallest
difference is between the Hungarian and the
Indian groups, while the Central-Europeans differ
more. The biggest difference is between the
Hungarians and the Turks, so they seem to be
the most distant relatives.”

The last study on magyars performed by americans said the same thing

http://www.pestiside.hu/20091001/gen...uropes-asians/

Magyars are not europeans,they are asiatic gypsies.They're haplogroups are a proof of this,they're dna are a proof of this,period.

[Vlach]

They turned it into Hungarians vs Romanians

This is the tradition...
And with Stears in this forum...
The same bullshits said by him, we are dwarf backward people with asian culture :picard2:

[arcticwolf]

Like: I am a Lach, so pretty much everything, the "Hello ugly members" phrase coined by Stears.
Dislike: Can't think of anything.

[Xanthias]

romanian Wog girls with dyed hair. None of these girls are international supermodels

Alexandra Maria Platereanu: model and romanian actress, currently in germany.

http://img.morgenpost.de/img/stars-und-promis/crop100024823/2268726005-ci3x2l-w620/mim-alexmarialara-BM-Berlin-Berlin.jpg

http://static.eva.ro/img/db/article/011/007/839329l.jpg?ts=1225814148

http://www.forher.de/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/alexandra-maria-lara-sam-riley-wenn280809.jpg

she beats the shit out your little hungarian pussies full of make-up.

[ProTroll]

Cancer-looking Patient

Please compare the romanian inventions:
Discovery of insulin
Laid foundation of Cybernetics
Coanda Effect
Fountain Pen
Ejection set
Motorboat engine
Gyrocopter
Founding of bacteriology as science
Artificial Blood(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/transylvania-artificial-blood_n_4221866.html)
a full list can be found here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_inventors_and_discoverers

With the magyar inventions of:
Rubick Cube(the rest of the inventions were made by jews)

[Lily]

This is the tradition...
And with Stears in this forum...
The same bullshits said by him, we are dwarf backward people with asian culture :picard2:

:lol00002:
Well, when people think of Romania, this what comes to mind:
http://www.innaofficial.com/assets/photo_galleries/2013/01/27/inna3.jpg

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/33300000/Alexandra-3-alexandra-stan-33390136-500-683.jpg

[Xanthias]

Why are there so many threads about hungary and hungarians lately? Are they the new albanians of this forum?

nope, hungarians turned themselfes into local punchlines plateaus by attacking anyone and some of them consider them even more superior tan the west, germans, etc ...

[Xanthias]

This is the tradition...
And with Stears in this forum...
The same bullshits said by him, we are dwarf backward people with asian culture :picard2:

Stears is quite a special case: mental traumatism with significant high autistic diagnosis, brain malfunction and malformation during the birth ... the list goes on.

[TCDA1986]

I like the women, perhaps the most beautiful in Europe, I am not sure but close.

[Vlach]

:lol00002:
Well, when people think of Romania, this what comes to mind:
http://www.innaofficial.com/assets/photo_galleries/2013/01/27/inna3.jpg

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/33300000/Alexandra-3-alexandra-stan-33390136-500-683.jpg

And? I dont get the idea...

[ProTroll]

That's inna.Even the comercial pop music made in Romania is more popular than the magyars pop-artists

[Lily]

And? I dont get the idea...

means not dwarf or gypsies

[Chrissi]

nope, hungarians turned themselfes into local punchlines plateaus by attacking anyone and some of them consider them even more superior tan the west, germans, etc ...

Well then they are delusional or suffer from megalomania. I don't get the concept of hungarian nationalism and pride they don't have that many achievements and in relation to the size of that country are relatively irrelevant over all. All they do is defend their incompetence, insult their own country men if they disagree, even claiming they are not real hungarians. So many lies and denial. In germany hungarians just like romanians are used as low-paid seasonal workers from eastern europe , like picking fruit i.e

[Stears]

Please compare the romanian inventions: Discovery of insulin Laid foundation of Cybernetics Coanda Effect Fountain Pen Ejection set Motorboat engine Gyrocopter Founding of bacteriology as science Artificial Blood(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/transylvania-artificial-blood_n_4221866.html) a full list can be found here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_inventors_and_discoverers With the magyar inventions of: Rubick Cube(the rest of the inventions were made by jews) Wrong. Non of them is romanian invention. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Discovery Insulin was not invented by romanians, the self proclaimed romanian inventor Nicolae Paulescu had no effect on the development. It was invented by Paul Langerhans, Polish-German physician Oscar Minkowski, all later develpment refered to this two scientists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Discovery The artificial blood was Invented by Dr. Friedrlch Gottdcnker of Vi- Mro-therapeutlc Institute. Fountain pen was not invented by romanians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_pen ; Motorboats, romanians were unable to built even stemships and steam engines or combustion engines until the 1920s. Of course it is also a non-romanian invention: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_boat#History Bacteriology is not romanian invention (the first bacteriologist is older than the first romanian medical university , which was founded in 1873, Hahahaha even african asian colonies of European powers have earlier mediical universities. Read about the history of becteriology: http://minst.org/library_history_of_bacteriology.html

[Stears]

Alexandra Maria Platereanu: model and romanian actress, currently in germany. http://img.morgenpost.de/img/stars-und-promis/crop100024823/2268726005-ci3x2l-w620/mim-alexmarialara-BM-Berlin-Berlin.jpg http://static.eva.ro/img/db/article/011/007/839329l.jpg?ts=1225814148 http://www.forher.de/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/alexandra-maria-lara-sam-riley-wenn280809.jpg she beats the shit out your little hungarian pussies full of make-up. se has originally black hair and eyes, tyípical gypsy-look wog girl.

[Stears]

However Hungarian inventions and inventors have wide support in Western european and american scientific books.

Only the most important hungarian inventions:

. Electric motor, generator A-Bomb H-Bomb, nuclear chain reaction , AC electricity meter, transformer, parallel electric connection, Telephone Exchange, Rotating Capacitor, Tungsten light bulb, Krypton Bulb, electronic TV, first charge storage camera tube, holography, Plasma display, OLED, Nuclear reactor, first turbo-prop, non-euclidean modern geometry, quantum theory, game theory etc..., BASIC the first general-purpose, high-level programming language (1964) BASIC remains popular in many dialects and in new languages influenced by BASIC, such as Microsoft's Visual Basic. In 2006, 59% of developers for the .NET Framework used Visual Basic .NET as their only programming language.

[glass]

Hungarians:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Miss_Hungary_07_Krisztina_Bodri.jpg
She looks like darker version of orthodox semi-asian friend of mine.
Palvin is younger version of Natalia Vodianova.

Stears it is time to admit orthodox semi-european features are the best!


non-euclidean modern geometry
Since when Lobachevsky became hungarian? His grandfather was pole though

[Stears]

She looks like darker version of orthodox semi-asian friend of mine. Palvin is younger version of Natalia Vodianova. Stears it is time to admit orthodox semi-european features are the best! Since when Lobachevsky became hungarian? His grandfather was pole though Lobachevsky did not invent non-euclidean geometry, because Hungarian young mathematician János Bolyai preceded him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Bolyai

He not only preceded him but: Between 1820 and 1823 he prepared a treatise on a complete system of non-Euclidean geometry. Bolyai's work was published in 1832 as an appendix to a mathematics textbook by his father. Gauss, on reading the Appendix, wrote to a friend saying "I regard this young geometer Bolyai as a genius of the first order". In 1848 Bolyai discovered that Lobachevsky had published a similar piece of work in 1829.

[glass]

Lobachevsky did not invent non-euclidean geometry, because Hungarian young mathematician János Bolyai preceded him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Bolyai

He not only preceded him but: Between 1820 and 1823 he prepared a treatise on a complete system of non-Euclidean geometry. Bolyai's work was published in 1832 as an appendix to a mathematics textbook by his father. Gauss, on reading the Appendix, wrote to a friend saying "I regard this young geometer Bolyai as a genius of the first order". In 1848 Bolyai discovered that Lobachevsky had published a similar piece of work in 1829.
so appendix to father's book 3 years later is true invetion, while earliest publication of work strictly about new geometry is nothing?
mkay :laugh:
Btw why non-euclidean geometry often called lobachevsky geometry but never bolyai geometry?
http://s30.postimg.org/xioi4bgoh/lob.png (http://postimage.org/)
http://s29.postimg.org/qg7osgnlj/bol.png (http://postimage.org/)
:hiding:
another anti-hunnic conspiracy?

[Stears]

Magyars are the most related to gypsies,this says the biggest genetic test that was performed in hungary http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Jour...sey-K-Text.PDF The summary of the test at the ending of the article is: ”Some authors used a relatively small number of participants, contrarily to the Hungarian study, where we included the highest number of subjects. Keeping this in view, the smallest difference is between the Hungarian and the Indian groups, while the Central-Europeans differ more. The biggest difference is between the Hungarians and the Turks, so they seem to be the most distant relatives.” The last study on magyars performed by americans said the same thing http://www.pestiside.hu/20091001/gen...uropes-asians/ Magyars are not europeans,they are asiatic gypsies.They're haplogroups are a proof of this,they're dna are a proof of this,period. These fake fantasy links don't work. You can't open them. Both of them are teenager forums . Unlike the balkanites and romanians, the Hungarian popultion did not mixed with romani population. The genetic distance between Hungarians and romani are huge, however the genetic distance between romani and balkanite population is lesser (they mixed with them) Comparative Genetic study about romas and many european population: www.etd.ceu.hu/2010/szamosi_barna.pdf read page 30. It is not surprising, due to the average pigmentation of balkan, and the anthropological fact: Romani population belongst to eastern mediterranian race.

[Stears]

This is the tradition... And with Stears in this forum... The same bullshits said by him, we are dwarf backward people with asian culture :picard2: Romanian population was late-nomadic population until the 15th century. The introduce of literacy appeared in romania only in the 15th century. The first university of romania appeared only in the 19th century. That show how primitive is your culture.

[Queen B]

:hiding:
another anti-hunnic conspiracy?

There is a conspiracy against HUNgarians

[Vlach]

Romanian population was late-nomadic population until the 15th century. The introduce of literacy appeared in romania only in the 15th century. The first university of romania appeared only in the 19th century. That show how primitive is your culture.

The first modern university probably... There's are schools in romanian countries since 1400-1500 i thought ( i dont remember exactly)
Nomandic population until 15th century, but the romanians have built big churches in 13th century :picard2:

Nomandic church :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Densus.bis_piatra.N.jpg

[Stears]

so appendix to father's book 3 years later is true invetion, while earliest publication of work strictly about new geometry is nothing? mkay :laugh: Btw why non-euclidean geometry often called lobachevsky geometry but never bolyai geometry? http://s30.postimg.org/xioi4bgoh/lob.png (/) http://s29.postimg.org/qg7osgnlj/bol.png (/) :hiding: another anti-hunnic conspiracy? English language results about Bolyai geometry in google books (41,000 results) : https://www.google.com/search?q=bolyai+geometry&btnG=Books+search&tbm=bks&tbo=1&hl=en&gws_rd=ssl

anti-russian conspiracy?

[Stears]

The first modern university probably... There's are schools in romanian countries since 1400-1500 i thought ( i dont remember exactly) Nomandic population until 15th century, but the romanians have built big churches in 13th century :picard2: Nomandic church :

monk school is not university. Even the medieval romanian clergy was serbian. http://www.study-in-romania.ro/historyofeducation.htm

The first Romanian universities were established by Prince Al.I.Cuza - the University of Iasi (1860) and the Bucharest University (1864) - under whose rule was issued the first Public Education Law (1864), which regulated the whole system of school education from primary to university education.

[ProTroll]

Asiatic-gypsy
I believe you've got abused as a child

The first university in Romania was academia vasiliana,the first in the orthodox world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasilian_College
The first college in the the slavic world was again founded by romanians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv_Mohyla_Academy

[ProTroll]

However Hungarian inventions and inventors have wide support in Western european and american scientific books.

Only the most important hungarian inventions:
jewish inventions

Magyars are the most related to gypsies,please the biggest DNA test that ever was performed in Hungary

http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF

The summary of the test at the ending of the article is:

”Some authors used a relatively small number of
participants, contrarily to the Hungarian study,
where we included the highest number of
subjects. Keeping this in view, the smallest
difference is between the Hungarian and the
Indian groups, while the Central-Europeans differ
more. The biggest difference is between the
Hungarians and the Turks, so they seem to be
the most distant relatives.”

The last study on magyars performed by americans said the same thing

http://www.pestiside.hu/20091001/genetic-analysis-reconfirms-that-hungarians-are-europes-asians/

Magyars are not europeans,they are asiatic gypsies.They're haplogroups are a proof of this,they're dna are a proof this,period.

[Stears]

I believe you've got abused as a child The first university in Romania was academia vasiliana,the first in the orthodox world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasilian_College The first college in the the slavic world was again founded by romanians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv_Mohyla_Academy They are not universities. Read the text, you idiot. Only Constantinople had university in medieval orthodox world. They are simple monk - trining school. Hungary had around 50 such a schools. Every third Hungarian monastery had such a trainer academy.

[Vlach]

I believe you've got abused as a child

The first university in Romania was academia vasiliana,the first in the orthodox world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasilian_College
The first college in the the slavic world was again founded by romanians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv_Mohyla_Academy

We better don't argue with a retarded what pretend that he know history.

[ProTroll]

http://wrongler.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/4/5/24457228/60609_orig.png

He looks like a rapist

[Vlach]

They are not universities. Read the text, you idiot. Only Constantinople had university in medieval orthodox world. They are simple monk - trining school. Hungary had around 50 such a schools. Every third Hungarian monastery had such a trainer academy.

WOW, is not a university is a college!! Are you fucking stupid?

[Stears]

We better don't argue with a retarded what pretend that he know history. You lost the debate again and again. So romania had no medieval university or college. It has just monastery school academy for monk-training.

[ProTroll]

Please read the biggest dna test made on magyars

http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF

”Some authors used a relatively small number of
participants, contrarily to the Hungarian study,
where we included the highest number of
subjects. Keeping this in view, the smallest
difference is between the Hungarian and the
Indian groups, while the Central-Europeans differ
more. The biggest difference is between the
Hungarians and the Turks, so they seem to be
the most distant relatives.”

[ProTroll]

However Hungarian inventions and inventors have wide support in Western european and american scientific books.

Only the most important hungarian inventions:

. Electric motor, generator A-Bomb H-Bomb, nuclear chain reaction , AC electricity meter, transformer, parallel electric connection, Telephone Exchange, Rotating Capacitor, Tungsten light bulb, Krypton Bulb, electronic TV, first charge storage camera tube, holography, Plasma display, OLED, Nuclear reactor, first turbo-prop, non-euclidean modern geometry, quantum theory, game theory etc..., BASIC the first general-purpose, high-level programming language (1964) BASIC remains popular in many dialects and in new languages influenced by BASIC, such as Microsoft's Visual Basic. In 2006, 59% of developers for the .NET Framework used Visual Basic .NET as their only programming language.

These are all jewish,or jewish-hungarian inventions.Hungarians haven't invented anything besides the Rubik Cube and Dynam.

[Stears]

Please read the biggest dna test made on magyars http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF ”Some authors used a relatively small number of participants, contrarily to the Hungarian study, where we included the highest number of subjects. Keeping this in view, the smallest difference is between the Hungarian and the Indian groups, while the Central-Europeans differ more. The biggest difference is between the Hungarians and the Turks, so they seem to be the most distant relatives.” Read the full text. The smallest difference is between the Hungarian roma population and the indian groups. As my source stated. because we did not mixed with them, they retained their indian genes. However romanians mixed with gypsies http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~tgschurr/pdf/Iovita-Schurr%202004.pdf

"Slavery, Admixture, and Assimilation Having reviewed the different processes that can be used to reconstruct Gypsy population history from its genetic structure, we will now attempt to analyze these data within a historical–linguistic context. The phenomenon of slav- ery in the autonomous Danubian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia is of particular interest to Gypsy population history. In this context, both the laws restricting contact between Romanians and Gypsies, and the possibly reactive Gypsy customs regarding this issue, probably had a great impact on the genetic structure of these populations. Al- though, initially, princes donated Gypsy slaves to monaster- ies, by the 16th century, the slave system had become more complex. At this time, it included three types of Gypsies: (1) the Vatras¸i˘ (Rom. vatr˘a, “hearth” or “home”) or T¸ igani boieres¸ti, who were directly enslaved by the nobility (Rom. boieri, “boyars”); (2) the T¸ igani man˘astires¸ti,˘ who belonged to monasteries and were under independent ecumenical control; and (3) the L˘aie¸si, or “free” Gypsies, who remained itinerant but paid tribute and were considered T¸ igani domnes¸ti (Rom. domn, “lord” or “prince”), or Crown Gyp- sies, who technically belonged to the state (Kogalniceanu 1837; Panaitescu 1941). This firmly established system un- derwent negligible changes until the 1830s, and it was not until 1856, after about twenty years of intellectual de- bates surrounding emancipation, that Gypsies were freed in Moldo-Wallachia. In this context, there are a couple of points that merit emphasizing. First, the slaves that were owned by the monasteries and nobility were absolutely at the disposal of their masters and possessed no personal rights. More- over, they were forced to settle on the outskirts of villages and were often buried in different cemeteries despite be- ing Christians (Achim 1999). Second, the laws permitted masters to sell, exchange, or give away any Gypsies or their children, and often it would be the case that children would be separated from their families and given away to other masters. At the same time, in a recent treatment of Gypsy history in the Romanian Principalities, Viorel Achim (1999) has produced many documents to show that the Romanian slavery system was extremely flexible and pragmatic, allow- ing for great freedom even in comparison with the techni- cally free Romanian serfs. While initially blind to intermarriage, laws became pro- hibitive as mixed unions became more common (e.g., the Sobornicescul Hrisov of 1785 in Moldavia and the Pravil- niceasca Condica˘ of 1780 in Wallachia, see Achim 1999:42– 43). This change was partly a result of the fact that the old laws dictated that, if a Gypsy were to marry a non-Gypsy, the latter would become a slave him- or herself. However, when the demand for slaves declined, nobles and monas- teries realized that serfs were more economically useful. As a result, prohibitive laws began to be enacted to prevent the conversion of free peasants into slaves. Thus, beginning in the late 18th century, even if laws prohibited mixed mar- riages, the children from such unions would most likely have become free and were probably assimilated into the local Romanian population. In view of the above history, it is not entirely clear just how much admixture there is in the currently self-identified Roma population in the former Principalities, or in the Roma populations that migrated subsequent to emanci- pation in 1856. Assimilation was usually accompanied by the loss of Gypsy customs and language, and the whole- sale adoption of Romanian ones (Achim 1999)"

[Queen B]

He looks like a rapist
He doesn't have the sexual pretador profile.
He has to profile of psycopath/killer, like him (http://www.thethinkingblue.com/norwaykiller.gif) or him (http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article856681.ece/alternates/s615/Canadian%20Luka%20Rocco%20Magnotta)

[Stears]

Now I know exactly why are romanian anthropologically (not only genetically) close to gypsies. (P1: GDT THEODORE G. SCHURR Reconstructing the Origins and Migrations of Diasporic Populations: The Case of the European Gypsies)

[Stears]

These are all jewish,or jewish-hungarian inventions.Hungarians haven't invented anything besides the Rubik Cube and Dynam. You are envious, and you fantasizing about jews. As I proved the romanians did not invented what you tried to claim. Hungarian Jews had no practical inventions in Hungary, because they were particle physicists scientists, and they were rarely inventors. (except atomic bomb H-bomb)

[ProTroll]

blabble

"The Indians are in relation with the Gypsies, who are the biggest ethnic group in Hungary. Molecular genetic methods supported our observations,
that there is a relatively small difference between the Hungarian and Indian groups, the Central-Europeans differ more, and the most distant
relatives are the Turks among the populations mentioned in this paper."

The smallest difference is between the hungarians and the gypsies.This means,as the biggest research study on the hungarians says,that the hungarians are genetically closer to the gypsies.

Source:http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF

[Stears]

"The Indians are in relation with the Gypsies, who are the biggest ethnic group in Hungary. Molecular genetic methods supported our observations, that there is a relatively small difference between the Hungarian and Indian groups, the Central-Europeans differ more, and the most distant relatives are the Turks among the populations mentioned in this paper." The smallest difference is between the hungarians and the gypsies.This means,as the biggest research study on the hungarians says,that the hungarians are genetically closer to the gypsies. Source:http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF Read the full text. It was not about ethnic Hungarian population but romani populations from Hungary Spain Greece Italy. Yes I agree, the Hungarian (romani) population is the closest to original Indian due to the total lack of mixing. Howver , well known fact as the above mentioned genetic result showed, that romanians contiunually mixed with their gypsy population. Deal with it. It caused your anthropologically similarity and dark pigmentation too.

[ProTroll]

lol

Please,stop playing retarded,for the sake of discussion.

"INTRODUCTION
Many researchers dealt with human
chromosomal polymorphisms all over the word,
so the distributions of the polymorphisms are
known in many ethnic groups. In Hungary, there
has not been data about this. In the Department
of Forensic Medicine of Semmelweis University,
Budapest, Hungary we carried out a study about
human chromosomal polymorphism. The
chromosomes of 1171 persons (563 females and
608 males) were analyzed by Q- and C-banding
techniques. The investigated individuals were
unrelated and they represented the common
Hungarian population. The aim of our research
was to determine the Hungarian chromosomal
variation and to compare it with different ethnic
groups found in the literature. We summarized a
few studies that treat this subject. Our nation
cross-bred with the Central-Europeans due to
the historical and the geographical position. The
Turkish population played an important role
(migration of nations, the Turkish occupation)
in the history of the Hungarian nation, so it is
expected to appear in the genetics. The Indians
are in relation with the Gypsies, who are the
biggest ethnic group in Hungary. Molecular
genetic methods supported our observations,
that there is a relatively small difference between
the Hungarian and Indian groups, the Central-
Europeans differ more, and the most distant
relatives are the Turks among the populations
mentioned in this paper"

Hungarians have the highest percent of gypsy blood from all europe!

Hungarians Haplogroups:

R1b:18.1 Germanic/Celtic
R1a:25.6 Slavic
I1:7.91 North German
I2a:16.74 Thracian/Dacian
I2b:2.79 Thracian/Dacian
I*:0.93 Extra-european
J2:6.51 Roman
J*:3.72 Jewish
G:4.2 Caucasian
N:0.47 Asiatic
H:5.12 Gypsy
R2:0.47 Extra-european
R1*:1.40 Extra-european
E1B1B:6.1 White Berber

Total Non-European Haplogroups:12.50

Source:Völgyi, Antónia; Zalán, Andrea; Szvetnik, Enikő; Pamjav, Horolma (2009). "Hungarian population data for 11 Y-STR and 49 Y-SNP markers". Forensic Science International:

Romanian Haplogroups

R1b:16.1 Germanic/Celtic
R1a:9.7 Slavic
I2:35 Thracian/Dacian
I1:6.9 North German
E1b1b:9.7 White Berber
J2:9.2 Roman
G:12.9 Caucasian
H:0.5 Gypsy

Total Non European Haplogroups:0.5

Source:Bosch, E.; Calafell, F.; González-Neira, A.; Flaiz, C; Mateu, E; Scheil, HG; Huckenbeck, W; Efremovska, L; Mikerezi, I; Xirotiris, N.; Grasa, C.; Schmidt, H.; Comas, D. (2006). "Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns". Annals of Human Genetics 70 (Pt 4): 459–487

Hungarians have the highest gypsy haplogroups from all europe.

Hungarians are closer to the gypsies,all the genetic studies say the same thing.

[Stears]

Please,stop playing retarded,for the sake of discussion. "INTRODUCTION Many researchers dealt with human chromosomal polymorphisms all over the word, so the distributions of the polymorphisms are known in many ethnic groups. In Hungary, there has not been data about this. In the Department of Forensic Medicine of Semmelweis University, Budapest, Hungary we carried out a study about human chromosomal polymorphism. The chromosomes of 1171 persons (563 females and 608 males) were analyzed by Q- and C-banding techniques. The investigated individuals were unrelated and they represented the common Hungarian population. The aim of our research was to determine the Hungarian chromosomal variation and to compare it with different ethnic groups found in the literature. We summarized a few studies that treat this subject. Our nation cross-bred with the Central-Europeans due to the historical and the geographical position. The Turkish population played an important role (migration of nations, the Turkish occupation) in the history of the Hungarian nation, so it is expected to appear in the genetics. The Indians are in relation with the Gypsies, who are the biggest ethnic group in Hungary. Molecular genetic methods supported our observations, that there is a relatively small difference between the Hungarian and Indian groups, the Central- Europeans differ more, and the most distant relatives are the Turks among the populations mentioned in this paper" Hungarians have the highest percent of gypsy blood from all europe! Hungarians Haplogroups: R1b:18.1 Germanic/Celtic R1a:25.6 Slavic I1:7.91 North German I2a:16.74 Thracian/Dacian I2b:2.79 Thracian/Dacian I*:0.93 Extra-european J2:6.51 Roman J*:3.72 Jewish G:4.2 Caucasian N:0.47 Asiatic H:5.12 Gypsy R2:0.47 Extra-european R1*:1.40 Extra-european E1B1B:6.1 White Berber Total Non-European Haplogroups:12.50 Source:Völgyi, Antónia; Zalán, Andrea; Szvetnik, Enikő; Pamjav, Horolma (2009). "Hungarian population data for 11 Y-STR and 49 Y-SNP markers". Forensic Science International: Romanian Haplogroups R1b:16.1 Germanic/Celtic R1a:9.7 Slavic I2:35 Thracian/Dacian I1:6.9 North German E1b1b:9.7 White Berber J2:9.2 Roman G:12.9 Caucasian H:0.5 Gypsy Total Non European Haplogroups:0.5 Source:Bosch, E.; Calafell, F.; González-Neira, A.; Flaiz, C; Mateu, E; Scheil, HG; Huckenbeck, W; Efremovska, L; Mikerezi, I; Xirotiris, N.; Grasa, C.; Schmidt, H.; Comas, D. (2006). "Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns". Annals of Human Genetics 70 (Pt 4): 459–487 Hungarians have the highest gypsy haplogroups from all europe. Hungarians are closer to the gypsies,all the genetic studies say the same thing. Interestingly, nobody found haplogroup H in Hungarian population. See the largest genetic database of Europe: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml Romanians have one of the highest ratio of non European haplogroup markers. (middle-eastern sub-saharan and a bit mongoloid) That caused you non-european look and gypsy-like average pigmentation. Did you read the genetic study? The geneticist had to write about historical mixing between romani groups and romanians, due to its significant mixing effect in ethnic romanian population.

[Stears]

Hungarian gypsies are the closest group of indian population, due to the lack of mixing between romani groups and Hungarians.

[ProTroll]

The genetic study is clear.The hungarian population is closer to the indians(gypsies)than to the central europeans and their cousins are the turks.Magyars are turkish-gypsies

[ProTroll]

http://oi60.tinypic.com/24qp92t.jpg

[Xanthias]

se has originally black hair and eyes, tyípical gypsy-look wog girl.

Her gracile neo-latin face just beats the shit out of your magayrovsky skinny bitches, this is probably how ancient balkanic people looked like (and by this thracians, greeks etc ... and by extent romans), and she is of full romanian descent, go google her parents, dickhead.

btw, this girl has the gypsy look
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1467382_10151732874054147_14386141_n.jpg

I bet 50% of the girls you posted have gypsi blood, that's why they look prettier than avarage mongolian faced hungarovsky girls you meat in Hungaria.

[ProTroll]

http://oi60.tinypic.com/24qp92t.jpg

[Xanthias]

Interestingly, nobody found haplogroup H in Hungarian population.

yet this haplogroup is a reminescance of proto-magyar people or proto-hungarian (and if you watched carefully in the "Debate Hungarian origin thread", everyone agree with that) so you are pretty damn fucked, indian-mongol.

[Xanthias]

Interestingly, nobody found haplogroup H in Hungarian population. See the largest genetic database of Europe: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml Romanians have one of the highest ratio of non European haplogroup markers. (middle-eastern sub-saharan and a bit mongoloid) That caused you non-european look and gypsy-like average pigmentation. Did you read the genetic study? The geneticist had to write about historical mixing between romani groups and romanians, due to its significant mixing effect in ethnic romanian population.

J2 isn't quite middle-eastern and Eb1b is found in higher proportion amongst greeks/albanians ... go get some life Stears.

[Stears]

The genetic study is clear.The hungarian population is closer to the indians(gypsies)than to the central europeans and their cousins are the turks.Magyars are turkish-gypsies Yes it is clear. Hungarian gypsies are the closest relatives of original indian groups, due to the lack of mixing. Balkanite and romanian population mixed with them, therefore the balkanite gypsy population is more diverse mixed. Read about it from the same authors and same university (university of szeged):

http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v101/n5/pdf/hdy200870a.pdf

However, we think that the comparison of the Hungarian Gypsy population is an adequate choice for genetic investigations because their ethnic diversity in Hungary is not as high as in the Balkans, and it is possible to distinguish three well-described metagroups among Hungarian Gypsies. Carpathian Gypsies or Romungros are the least char- acterized and intact metagroup. Their language consists elements from Beas, Lovari and Hungarian. They represent the 70% of the Gypsies living in Hungary.

[Stears]

So unlike romanian and balkanite gypsies, the Hungarian gypsies are the most pure gypsies in the region (due to the lack of mixing), so it is not wonder that they are the closest relatives of original indian gypsies.

[Stears]

However western geneticist (as my american source pointed out) often mention the historic situation of romanian gypsies and their mixing with ethnic romanian population.

[Stears]

It is no wonder, gypsies arrived in the late 14th century, than they found a similar late-nomadic group, the nomadic ancestors of romanians. They have similar nomadic lifestyle and darky pigmentation. It is no wonder that there were sympathy between the two swarthy nomadic groups.

[ProTroll]

". The lower frequency of the
H1 haplotype in the Gypsy population may be a
consequence of their coexistence for centuries and partial
admixture with H2 carrier Caucasian populations. This
effect is likely to have been strengthened by the fact
that the Olah/Vlax metagroup traditionally tolerates
marriages with non-Gypsy women, whereas some other
Gypsy groups do not. The deviation from the Hardy–
Weinberg equilibrium in the Gypsy group can be explained
by the population genetic effect of their closed society
structureandthehigherrateofconsanguineousmating"

Source:http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v101/n5/pdf/hdy200870a.pdf
The gypsies in hungary have been inbreeding with the magyars for centuries

The hungarians closest relative are the indians as the biggest dna study made on the magyars said.

"INTRODUCTION
Many researchers dealt with human
chromosomal polymorphisms all over the word,
so the distributions of the polymorphisms are
known in many ethnic groups. In Hungary, there
has not been data about this. In the Department
of Forensic Medicine of Semmelweis University,
Budapest, Hungary we carried out a study about
human chromosomal polymorphism. The
chromosomes of 1171 persons (563 females and
608 males) were analyzed by Q- and C-banding
techniques. The investigated individuals were
unrelated and they represented the common
Hungarian population. The aim of our research
was to determine the Hungarian chromosomal
variation and to compare it with different ethnic
groups found in the literature. We summarized a
few studies that treat this subject. Our nation
cross-bred with the Central-Europeans due to
the historical and the geographical position. The
Turkish population played an important role
(migration of nations, the Turkish occupation)
in the history of the Hungarian nation, so it is
expected to appear in the genetics. The Indians
are in relation with the Gypsies, who are the
biggest ethnic group in Hungary. Molecular
genetic methods supported our observations,
that there is a relatively small difference between
the Hungarian and Indian groups, the Central-
Europeans differ more, and the most distant
relatives are the Turks among the populations
mentioned in this paper"

Source:http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF

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All romanians should meet stears.They will have the laugh of they're life and will give us more reasons to remove hungarian pretention of autonomy in Tinutul Secuiesc.Just name Ceausescu or Avram Iancu and the magyars will shit they're pants

[Vlach]

You lost the debate again and again. So romania had no medieval university or college. It has just monastery school academy for monk-training.

No college? Schola Latina 1560

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasilian_College

[Stears]

No college? Schola Latina 1560 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasilian_College It was a monk academy not even college or university. In medieval Hungary every third monastery was monk academy

[Stears]

J2 isn't quite middle-eastern and Eb1b is found in higher proportion amongst greeks/albanians ... go get some life Stears. E-P2 (E1B1) is likely to have originated in the highlands of East Africa's Ethiopia, as this is the place with the high frequency of ancestral subclades of this haplogroup. E-P2 is the ancestor of the majority of E subclade lineages existing today. It has diverged into two subclades: E-V38 and E-M215 approximately 24-27,000 years ago.[3] Trombetta et al. 2011, further confirmed the previously suggested place of origin of this haplogroup by stating: The new topology here reported has important implications as to the origins of the haplogroup E-P2. Using the principle of the phylogeographic parsimony, the resolution of the E-M215 trifurcation in favor of a common ancestor of E-M2 and E-M329 strongly supports the hypothesis that haplogroup E-P2 originated in eastern Africa, as previously suggested, and that chromosomes E-M2, so frequently observed in sub-Saharan Africa, trace their descent to a common ancestor present in eastern Africa.[2]

Haplogroup J is semitic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_%28Y-DNA%29

Slave trade and organized mass population movement brought it to greece and balkans.

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E1b1b is a characteristic of the white population of northern Africa,but you can't except magyars to understand this(since they are asiatics and have been inbreeding with the gypsies for centuries and they have the highest gypsy blood of all the europeans).E1 were the egyptians,carthagians,who were white.After they polluted they bloodline with black africans,they disappearead as countries.

The romanians(like the north italians) have Haplogroup J-M172 which once again,is a white haplogroup.

Magyars have 3% jewish blood in them + 5% gypsy blood.

[Stears]

". The lower frequency of the H1 haplotype in the Gypsy population may be a consequence of their coexistence for centuries and partial admixture with H2 carrier Caucasian populations. This effect is likely to have been strengthened by the fact that the Olah/Vlax metagroup traditionally tolerates marriages with non-Gypsy women, whereas some other Gypsy groups do not. The deviation from the Hardy– Weinberg equilibrium in the Gypsy group can be explained by the population genetic effect of their closed society structureandthehigherrateofconsanguineousmating" Source:http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v101/n5/pdf/hdy200870a.pdf The gypsies in hungary have been inbreeding with the magyars for centuries The hungarians closest relative are the indians as the biggest dna study made on the magyars said. "INTRODUCTION Many researchers dealt with human chromosomal polymorphisms all over the word, so the distributions of the polymorphisms are known in many ethnic groups. In Hungary, there has not been data about this. In the Department of Forensic Medicine of Semmelweis University, Budapest, Hungary we carried out a study about human chromosomal polymorphism. The chromosomes of 1171 persons (563 females and 608 males) were analyzed by Q- and C-banding techniques. The investigated individuals were unrelated and they represented the common Hungarian population. The aim of our research was to determine the Hungarian chromosomal variation and to compare it with different ethnic groups found in the literature. We summarized a few studies that treat this subject. Our nation cross-bred with the Central-Europeans due to the historical and the geographical position. The Turkish population played an important role (migration of nations, the Turkish occupation) in the history of the Hungarian nation, so it is expected to appear in the genetics. The Indians are in relation with the Gypsies, who are the biggest ethnic group in Hungary. Molecular genetic methods supported our observations, that there is a relatively small difference between the Hungarian and Indian groups, the Central- Europeans differ more, and the most distant relatives are the Turks among the populations mentioned in this paper" Source:http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/IJHG/IJHG-06-0-000-000-2006-Web/IJHG-06-3-177-280-2006-Abst-PDF/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K/IJHG-06-3-177-183-2006-263-Decsey-K-Text.PDF (you ommitted some sentences for confusion) Yes there are small difference between Hungarian gypsy population and indians. However balkanite and romanian gypsies mixed with local population:
Balkanite and romanian population mixed with them, therefore the balkanite gypsy population is more diverse mixed. Read about it from the same authors and same university (university of szeged):

http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v101/n5/pdf/hdy200870a.pdf

However, we think that the comparison of the Hungarian Gypsy population is an adequate choice for genetic investigations because their ethnic diversity in Hungary is not as high as in the Balkans, and it is possible to distinguish three well-described metagroups among Hungarian Gypsies. Carpathian Gypsies or Romungros are the least char- acterized and intact metagroup. Their language consists elements from Beas, Lovari and Hungarian. They represent the 70% of the Gypsies living in Hungary.

However western geneticists (as my american source pointed out) often mention the historic situation of romanian gypsies and their frequent mixing with ethnic romanian population.

http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~tgschurr/pdf/Iovita-Schurr%202004.pdf "Slavery, Admixture, and Assimilation Having reviewed the different processes that can be used to reconstruct Gypsy population history from its genetic structure, we will now attempt to analyze these data within a historical–linguistic context. The phenomenon of slav- ery in the autonomous Danubian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia is of particular interest to Gypsy population history. In this context, both the laws restricting contact between Romanians and Gypsies, and the possibly reactive Gypsy customs regarding this issue, probably had a great impact on the genetic structure of these populations. Al- though, initially, princes donated Gypsy slaves to monaster- ies, by the 16th century, the slave system had become more complex. At this time, it included three types of Gypsies: (1) the Vatras¸i˘ (Rom. vatr˘a, “hearth” or “home”) or T¸ igani boieres¸ti, who were directly enslaved by the nobility (Rom. boieri, “boyars”); (2) the T¸ igani man˘astires¸ti,˘ who belonged to monasteries and were under independent ecumenical control; and (3) the L˘aie¸si, or “free” Gypsies, who remained itinerant but paid tribute and were considered T¸ igani domnes¸ti (Rom. domn, “lord” or “prince”), or Crown Gyp- sies, who technically belonged to the state (Kogalniceanu 1837; Panaitescu 1941). This firmly established system un- derwent negligible changes until the 1830s, and it was not until 1856, after about twenty years of intellectual de- bates surrounding emancipation, that Gypsies were freed in Moldo-Wallachia. In this context, there are a couple of points that merit emphasizing. First, the slaves that were owned by the monasteries and nobility were absolutely at the disposal of their masters and possessed no personal rights. More- over, they were forced to settle on the outskirts of villages and were often buried in different cemeteries despite be- ing Christians (Achim 1999). Second, the laws permitted masters to sell, exchange, or give away any Gypsies or their children, and often it would be the case that children would be separated from their families and given away to other masters. At the same time, in a recent treatment of Gypsy history in the Romanian Principalities, Viorel Achim (1999) has produced many documents to show that the Romanian slavery system was extremely flexible and pragmatic, allow- ing for great freedom even in comparison with the techni- cally free Romanian serfs. While initially blind to intermarriage, laws became pro- hibitive as mixed unions became more common (e.g., the Sobornicescul Hrisov of 1785 in Moldavia and the Pravil- niceasca Condica˘ of 1780 in Wallachia, see Achim 1999:42– 43). This change was partly a result of the fact that the old laws dictated that, if a Gypsy were to marry a non-Gypsy, the latter would become a slave him- or herself. However, when the demand for slaves declined, nobles and monas- teries realized that serfs were more economically useful. As a result, prohibitive laws began to be enacted to prevent the conversion of free peasants into slaves. Thus, beginning in the late 18th century, even if laws prohibited mixed mar- riages, the children from such unions would most likely have become free and were probably assimilated into the local Romanian population. In view of the above history, it is not entirely clear just how much admixture there is in the currently self-identified Roma population in the former Principalities, or in the Roma populations that migrated subsequent to emanci- pation in 1856. Assimilation was usually accompanied by the loss of Gypsy customs and language, and the whole- sale adoption of Romanian ones (Achim 1999)"

romanians and romani peopleTwo late-nomadic group of people with swarthy mediterran facial features, so their mixing is no wonder for me.

[Vlach]

It was a monk academy not even college or university. In medieval Hungary every third monastery was monk academy

And? If it was a monk academy? Where's the problem? I dont care about middle ages Hungary, after Battle of Mohacs you was not on the Europe map.

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I'm going to make a video about the magyar-gypsy-asian connection.
Stears,please be patient,we will solve everything on youtube

[Stears]

Forget the dyed hair of women, concentrate only on the men (who rarely have dyed hair). 90% of the romanians have black hair and eyes. Gypsy nation.

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[Stears]

A good new thread about romanians: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?134306-Why-are-average-romanians-so-swarthy-Are-they-white-photos-from-romanian-grammar-schools