Finnic admixture

[Polak]

Hello all, is there any calculator you would recommend for picking up on (Baltic) Finnic ancestry/admixture? I'm wondering if I have any ancestry through my Baltic ancestry as I have fairly recent Latvian and Lithuanian ancestry and alot of different calcs (such as Eurogenes K13 and K15) give me Finnish or Estonian.

Thanks

[Lemminkäinen]

K13 is reasonable. To see Finnish ancestry you need a certain combination of Siberian, North Atlantic and Baltic proportions. In K15 you need a combination of Siberian, North Sea, Atlantic and Baltic.

To differentiate Finns from close North Russian populations with similar Siberian admixture we need North Sea and Atlantic. To differentiate Estonians and Finns we need Baltic admixture.

[Östsvensk]

Eurogenes K36 has the Fennoscandian component.

[Lemminkäinen]

Eurogenes K36 has the Fennoscandian component.

The problen is that it has no Oracle and the Finns doesn't get 100% Fennoscandian.

[Polak]

Eurogenes K36 has the Fennoscandian component.

I get 10.68% Fennoscandian on Eurogenes K36.

[Polak]

K13 is reasonable. To see Finnish ancestry you need a certain combination of Siberian, North Atlantic and Baltic proportions. In K15 you need a combination of Siberian, North Sea, Atlantic and Baltic.

To differentiate Finns from close North Russian populations with similar Siberian admixture we need North Sea and Atlantic. To differentiate Estonians and Finns we need Baltic admixture.

Components %
North_Atlantic 31.74
Baltic 46.88
West_Med 8.71
West_Asian 2.27
East_Med 6.74
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 2.45
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.02
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 1.18

[Finnish Swede]

Ask Rethel here.

He is pole too and shares very healthy slavic attitude against Finnic people. Soon you learn, better not dig this kind of matters.

[Lemminkäinen]

I get 10.68% Fennoscandian on Eurogenes K36.

Maybe 5% something "Finnic", but not sure.

[Lemminkäinen]

Components %
North_Atlantic 31.74
Baltic 46.88
West_Med 8.71
West_Asian 2.27
East_Med 6.74
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 2.45
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.02
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 1.18

Pls, show Oracle results. Oracle analysis is needed to show ethnic admixtures.

[Östsvensk]

The problen is that it has no Oracle and the Finns doesn't get 100% Fennoscandian.

East Finns can score pretty high.

Population
Amerindian 0.44
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.23
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.95
Fennoscandian 80.08
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.08
North_Caucasian 0.15
North_Sea 4.37
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.06
Siberian 0.85
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.57
West_African 0.09
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

Leto's Finnic-admixed Russian (?) mother scores 24%, as do East Swedes with Finnic admix typically.

[Lemminkäinen]

East Finns can score pretty high.

Population
Amerindian 0.44
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.23
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.95
Fennoscandian 80.08
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.08
North_Caucasian 0.15
North_Sea 4.37
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.06
Siberian 0.85
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.57
West_African 0.09
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

Leto's Finnic-admixed Russian (?) mother scores 24%, as do East Swedes with Finnic admix typically.

Alright, 10% in his result would mean 100 / 8 %, but it isn't straightforward. We should know how much it is in Russia, Estonia and Sweden. If it is in Sweden averagely 10%, does it mean that Swedes in averagely have 12.5% East Finnish admixture.

Those Leto's figures mean that smaller admixtures in Poland can be from Russia or Sweden.

[Polak]

Pls, show Oracle results. Oracle analysis is needed to show ethnic admixtures.

Mixed Mode:
1 91.80% Belorussian + 8.20% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.071
2 91.80% Belorussian + 8.20% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.075
3 89.45% Belorussian + 10.55% Southeast_English @ 4.089
4 92.58% Belorussian + 7.42% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.116
5 92.58% Belorussian + 7.42% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.128
6 91.80% Belorussian + 8.20% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.131
7 90.23% Belorussian + 9.77% French @ 4.165
8 93.36% Belorussian + 6.64% French_Basque @ 4.169
9 88.67% Belorussian + 11.33% South_Dutch @ 4.175
10 88.67% Belorussian + 11.33% West_German @ 4.175

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Belorussian @ 5.487
2 100% Polish @ 5.946
3 100% Estonian_Polish @ 6.361
4 100% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.987
5 100% South_Polish @ 7.487
6 100% Ukrainian @ 7.829
7 100% Southwest_Russian @ 8.223
8 100% Estonian @ 8.906
9 100% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.325
10 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 9.675

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Belorussian + 50% South_Polish @ 4.846
2 50% Belorussian + 50% Polish @ 5.021
3 50% South_Polish + 50% Estonian @ 5.400
4 50% Belorussian + 50% Ukrainian @ 5.438
5 50% Estonian_Polish + 50% South_Polish @ 5.446
6 50% Belorussian + 50% Belorussian @ 5.487
7 50% South_Polish + 50% Lithuanian @ 5.563
8 50% Polish + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 5.599
9 50% Ukrainian + 50% Estonian @ 5.751
10 50% Belorussian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 5.845

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Belorussian + 33% Belorussian + 33% South_Polish @ 4.619
2 33% Belorussian + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% South_Polish @ 4.973
3 33% Belorussian + 33% Belorussian + 33% Polish @ 5.017
4 33% Belorussian + 33% Polish + 33% South_Polish @ 5.100
5 33% Belorussian + 33% Belorussian + 33% Ukrainian @ 5.115
6 33% Lithuanian + 33% Lithuanian + 33% Hungarian @ 5.172
7 33% Belorussian + 33% Polish + 33% Polish @ 5.189
8 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% Estonian @ 5.209
9 33% Belorussian + 33% Belorussian + 33% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.241
10 33% Belorussian + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.285

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% East_German @ 4.581
2 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% South_Polish @ 4.680
3 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Polish + 25% South_Polish @ 4.793
4 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% East_German @ 4.795
5 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Hungarian @ 4.844
6 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Austrian @ 4.863
7 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% South_Polish @ 4.917
8 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Polish + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.936
9 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% North_Swedish @ 4.967
10 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% North_Swedish @ 4.986

[Lemminkäinen]

Looks like your Estonian or Finnish admixture is very marginal. Your East Asian can have effect on some tests. However, comparing our results you see that the difference between our admixture models isn't big and only my Siberian, North_Atlantic ( very moderate in Finland) and East_Med makes me Finnish and you Slavic. Things can be surprising.

Results mine yours

North_Atlantic 36.24 Pct. 31.74
Baltic 45.15 Pct 46.88
West_Med 6.65 Pct 8.71
West_Asian 3.45 Pct 2.27
East_Med 0.25 Pct 6.74
Red_Sea - 0.00 Pct 0.00
South_Asian 1.34 Pct 0.00
East_Asian 1.52 Pct 2.45
Siberian 3.9 Pct 0.00
Amerindian 1.24 Pct 0.00
Oceanian 0.26 Pct 0.02
Northeast_African 0.00 Pct 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00 Pct 1.18

Adding 3-8% Siberian would move you close Finns. Davidski would hate it :)

[Rethel]

attitude against Finnic people.

Which is?

[Finnish Swede]

Which is?

Yours :)? As they are not R1 ...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3bI9LBxk9nvHK-BCGf7zhGG59FB8AbuWCJg&usqp=CAU

[Rethel]

Yours :)? As they are not R1 ...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3bI9LBxk9nvHK-BCGf7zhGG59FB8AbuWCJg&usqp=CAU

What are you smoking?

[Finnish Swede]

What are you smoking?

Nothing. I just have too good memory :)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?227694-SEVEN-TRIBES-OF-EUROPE

And there were much more too.

[Rethel]

Nothing. I just have too good memory :)

Memory of your own delusions?


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?227694-SEVEN-TRIBES-OF-EUROPE

If you do not understand what you read in english, ask someone to translate, instead of talking a total nonsense.


And there were much more too.

Much more in your warped imagination.