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Dunai
08-20-2021, 10:28 PM
I am curious after K13 updated (Vahaduo) has received so much more regional and national additions, what ethnic composition do you receive based on the most recent form of the calculator? Post your data with Add Dist Col 0.25X.

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.7810% / 0.78095020 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
38.2 Austrian
18.0 North-Swedish
2.1 Kirgiz

calxpal
08-20-2021, 10:50 PM
Distance to: cpal
3.74132330 Austrian
5.09121793 German
7.27966345 German_East
7.42452692 German_West
7.57664834 German_South
7.57898410 French_Alsace
8.44772159 Swiss_German
8.44836671 Afrikaner
9.25505267 Belgian
9.26937430 Swiss_German2
9.31258289 Flemish
9.34115089 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
9.45464965 Dutch_South
9.55423990 North_German
9.63297981 Pennsylvania_Dutch
10.10243040 French_Northeast
10.22241165 Hungarian
10.24496950 Slovenian
10.37685405 German_Northwest
10.69848120 Czech
11.17879689 Swiss_French
11.36360418 Croat_North
11.45429614 Dutch
11.46438834 Hungarian_Alföld
11.62158767 Hungarian_North

Target: cpal
Distance: 0.5550% / 0.55501011 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.7 Austrian
37.7 German
14.1 North-Swedish
5.0 North_German
4.9 Saudi
0.6 Bashkir

Coastal Elite
08-20-2021, 10:55 PM
Target: Daco
Distance: 2.1969% / 2.19692048 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.2 German_South
16.4 North_German
7.0 Lebanese_Druze
1.4 Brahmin_UP

Distance to: Daco
4.36997712 Swiss_German2
4.39476962 French_Alsace
4.40719866 Swiss_German
4.44121605 German_South
5.28697456 Pennsylvania_Dutch
6.20721355 Swiss_French
6.27014354 French_Northeast
7.01611003 German_West
7.51266930 Belgian
7.95732995 Afrikaner
8.01910219 Flemish
8.54365847 French_Central
8.69797103 German
9.42878571 Dutch_South
9.50097363 Austrian
10.13219621 Italian_Aosta_Valley
11.14520973 French
11.72084895 French_Northwest
11.97233478 English_Southeast
12.67016574 North_German
12.74158153 English_Midlands
12.90562281 English
13.09691185 Dutch
13.11366463 Italian_Trentino
13.14577118 German_Northwest

MiMadre

Target: MiMadre
Distance: 1.1201% / 1.12008280 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.9 Scottish_East
29.9 Scottish_Southwest
22.2 Norwegian

Distance to: MiMadre
1.64696691 Scottish_Northeast
1.65245272 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
1.75698606 Scottish_Southwest
1.82523971 Scottish
1.85857472 Scottish_East
2.06755895 Orcadian
2.07243818 Scottish_North_Highlands
2.19273801 Irish_Leinster
2.45040813 English_North
2.47349955 Irish
2.50908350 Welsh
2.57239188 Irish_Connacht
2.61902654 West_Scottish
2.78109691 Irish_Munster
3.28211822 Cornish
3.29949996 Irish_Ulster
3.39001475 Icelandic
3.39714586 English
3.52881000 English_Southwest
3.55654327 English_Midlands
3.61552209 Dutch_North
3.70099986 Dutch_Central
3.84936358 Dutch
4.19181345 English_Southeast
4.98816600 Norwegian

Richmondbread
08-20-2021, 10:55 PM
Population
North_Atlantic 39.68 Pct
Baltic 27.8 Pct
West_Med 14.61 Pct
West_Asian 8.8 Pct
East_Med 4.15 Pct
Red_Sea 0.7 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.35 Pct
Amerindian 1.38 Pct
Oceanian 0.67 Pct
Northeast_African 1.62 Pct
Sub-Saharan

Dunai
08-20-2021, 11:05 PM
Population
North_Atlantic 39.68 Pct
Baltic 27.8 Pct
West_Med 14.61 Pct
West_Asian 8.8 Pct
East_Med 4.15 Pct
Red_Sea 0.7 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.35 Pct
Amerindian 1.38 Pct
Oceanian 0.67 Pct
Northeast_African 1.62 Pct
Sub-Saharan

Target: Richmondbread
Distance: 1.3582% / 1.35816208 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 German_East
21.7 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
9.9 French_Basque
6.7 Dargin
1.5 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.6 Mayan

Jana
08-20-2021, 11:06 PM
Target: Stearsolina
Distance: 1.8274% / 1.82740942 | ADC: 0.25x RC

51.9 Slovenian
19.2 Lower_Silesia
16.0 Serb_Serbia_West
7.7 North_Ossetian
5.2 French_Basque

Target: Stears
Distance: 0.8707% / 0.87074266 | ADC: 0.25x RC

76.6 Hungarian
10.5 Croat_East
6.4 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.9 Tatar
2.4 Dargin
1.2 Pamiri_Tajikistan

Arzanene
08-20-2021, 11:17 PM
Distance to: Arzanene
5.90901007 Greek_Caucasus
6.02751192 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.25075195 Greek_Trabzon
7.15753449 Armenian
7.33901220 Armenian_West
7.66313252 Armenian_East
9.38529701 Georgian_Jewish
9.65586350 Laz
9.67809382 Turk_East
10.43876908 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
10.55185766 Turk_Meskhetian
10.69691077 Turk_South_East
11.02933815 Assyrian_North
11.22432181 Zaza
11.42334452 Assyrian_South
11.45686257 Assyrian_West
11.47100693 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
11.55426328 Turkmen_Iraq
12.23425519 Kurd_Iran
12.30438946 Turk_Turkey_average
12.85032684 Kurd_Sorani
12.98328541 Greek_Cappadocian
13.01509124 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.35202232 Kurdish
13.38153952 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: Arzanene
Distance: 2.9682% / 2.96817031 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 Greek_Caucasus
33.3 Laz
6.5 Italian_Sardinia
4.0 Sakilli

alternate admixture

Target: Arzanene
Distance: 4.5211% / 4.52105736 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.4 Armenian_West
21.3 Georgian_imereti
7.9 Italian_Sardinia
2.4 Velamas

J. Ketch
08-20-2021, 11:33 PM
Distance to: Creoda
2.31613903 West_Scottish
3.14421691 Irish_Munster
3.17458659 Orcadian
3.32484586 Scottish_Southwest
3.45085497 Irish
3.49084517 Irish_Connacht
3.50085704 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.54272494 Scottish_Northeast
3.62977961 Scottish
3.64446155 Irish_Ulster
3.77066307 Scottish_East
3.86190368 Irish_Leinster
3.93069968 Scottish_North_Highlands
4.30579842 English_North
4.33764913 Icelandic
4.47173344 Dutch_North
4.53236142 Welsh
5.01575518 Dutch_Central
5.10874740 Cornish
5.31422619 English

Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.0111% / 2.01109448 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.9 West_Scottish
17.1 Norway_South_Central

Removing the redundant old West Scottish average

Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.4008% / 2.40083260 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.7 Irish_Munster
23.8 Norway_South_Central
10.5 Orcadian

Removing Orcadian

Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.4106% / 2.41055028 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.4 Irish_Munster
23.9 Norway_South_Central
4.7 Dutch_North



Distance to: CreodaMum
2.88409431 English_Midlands
2.89252485 English_North
2.91190659 English
3.05991830 English_Southeast
3.12904139 Welsh
3.22962846 Scottish_East
3.25481182 Dutch
3.27180378 English_Southwest
3.27583577 Scottish_Northeast
3.38226256 Scottish
3.49483905 Cornish
3.49625514 Scottish_North_Highlands
3.60066660 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.62339620 Scottish_Southwest
3.65770420 Dutch_Central
3.79706466 Irish_Leinster
3.80197317 German_Northwest
3.86297813 Orcadian
4.33601199 Dutch_North
4.48281162 French_Northwest

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 1.1054% / 1.10543426 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.4 Scottish_Northeast
22.5 English_Midlands
5.5 North_German
4.0 Lower_Silesia
1.8 Kalash
0.8 Dargin


Distance to: CreodaDad
3.74017379 Dutch_North
3.79490448 Icelandic
4.10739577 Denmark
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.21333597 Norway_South_Central
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.58852918 Sweden_Götaland
4.71888758 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
4.90211179 Dutch_Central
4.99410653 Scottish_Southwest
4.99611849 Scottish_Northeast
5.20904982 Irish_Munster
5.20909781 Irish_Connacht
5.21518935 Scottish
5.34576468 Scottish_East
5.36452235 Irish
5.39772174 English_North
5.52632789 Dutch
5.61691196 Scottish_North_Highlands

Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.6479% / 2.64789637 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.3 Norway_South_Central
48.7 West_Scottish


Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.8693% / 2.86931942 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.5 Norway_South_Central
41.5 Irish_Munster

Sharpshooter
08-20-2021, 11:47 PM
Distance to: Sharpshooter
3.72330498 German_Northwest
3.79952629 Dutch
3.80053944 English_Southeast
3.99557255 English_Midlands
4.00988778 English
4.01646611 North_German
4.24522084 English_North
4.31742979 Dutch_Central
4.37251644 English_Southwest
4.53013245 Cornish
4.61411963 Welsh
4.88021516 Dutch_South
4.91515005 Scottish_Northeast
4.95502775 Scottish_East
5.06782004 French_Northwest
5.07178470 Dutch_North
5.12443168 Scottish_North_Highlands
5.17751871 Scottish
5.24188897 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
5.31962405 Orcadian
5.41550552 German_West
5.44071686 Scottish_Southwest
5.53099449 Irish_Leinster
5.66586269 Icelandic
5.66807728 Flemish

Target: Sharpshooter
Distance: 1.0364% / 1.03638380
72.7 Norwegian
10.8 French_Basque
6.5 Austrian
4.8 Georgian_imereti
3.4 Polish
1.8 Cornish

Dunai
08-20-2021, 11:52 PM
Target: Stears
Distance: 0.8707% / 0.87074266 | ADC: 0.25x RC

76.6 Hungarian
10.5 Croat_East
6.4 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.9 Tatar
2.4 Dargin
1.2 Pamiri_Tajikistan

More than 10% Asiatic for a Hungarian, curious if anyone scores more.

Smitty
08-21-2021, 12:11 AM
My mom:

Target: Smitty_Mom
Distance: 0.9894% / 0.98940221
45.7 Norwegian
22.6 Sorb_Lusatia
20.4 Greek_Istanbul
6.3 Lebanese_Druze
2.8 Greek_West
1.2 Karitiana
0.9 Yoruban
0.1 Greater_Poland


Distance to: Mom
6.87363805 Austrian
8.83906669 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
9.14283873 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
9.16132087 French_Alsace
9.29645094 Swiss_German
9.31802018 Hungarian
9.66225647 German_South
10.08526648 Csángó-Ceangău
10.14836933 Croat_West
10.24460346 Swiss_German2
10.31583249 Hungarian_Alföld
10.37727806 German
10.43032118 Slovenian
10.46627441 Swiss_French
10.79757843 Croat_North
10.90409098 German_West
11.09054552 Croat
11.24132999 German_East
11.42260478 Pennsylvania_Dutch
11.53596550 Hungarian_North
12.03444639 Croat_South
12.18609453 Afrikaner
12.26466061 French_Northeast
12.55293193 Romania_Moldavia_North
12.61451148 Croat_East

Richmondbread
08-21-2021, 02:53 AM
Target: Richmondbread
Distance: 1.3582% / 1.35816208 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 German_East
21.7 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
9.9 French_Basque
6.7 Dargin
1.5 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.6 Mayan

What is that Ethiopian doing in there?

Kaspias
08-21-2021, 08:55 AM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 1.3772% / 1.37722727 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.3 Turk_Trakya
32.3 Pomak_Greece
16.1 Chuvash
11.9 Lebanese_Druze
2.4 Ket


Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 1.1799% / 1.17985768 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.9 Turk_Trakya
14.9 Italian_Umbria
14.9 Turkmen
9.6 French_Provence
6.7 Evens

Target: Kaspias_mom_phased
Distance: 2.7786% / 2.77857651 | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.2 Pomak_Greece
16.4 Chuvash
11.4 Lebanese_Druze

Grace O'Malley
08-21-2021, 09:29 AM
Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9009% / 1.90091955
69.6 Icelandic
19.6 West_Scottish
9.3 Irish_Ulster
1.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9088% / 1.90880770 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.1 Icelandic
24.7 Irish_Ulster
0.9 Dargin
0.3 Karitiana

With Icelandic removed.


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9875% / 1.98746505
47.1 Norwegian
35.6 West_Scottish
14.8 Irish_Ulster
2.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana

Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 2.0010% / 2.00096682 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.3 Norwegian
40.5 West_Scottish
10.7 Irish_Ulster
2.5 Dargin

These calculators can't distinguish between certain populations. What's the issue here? They are only calculators after all and they aren't looking at your dna like a geneticist.

Distance to: Grace(irish)
2.37583669 Icelandic
3.03324908 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.90000000 Irish_Connacht
3.92126255 Scottish
3.97353747 Dutch_North
3.99221743 Scottish_Southwest
4.02823783 West_Scottish
4.04991358 Norwegian
4.11541006 Irish
4.25025882 Irish_Munster
4.25540832 Scottish_Northeast
4.25605451 Orcadian
4.35045975 Scottish_East
4.41269759 Irish_Leinster
4.50302121 Scottish_North_Highlands
4.52268725 Irish_Ulster
4.67891013 Denmark
4.67923071 Dutch_Central
4.86428823 Norway_South_Central
4.90855376 English_North
5.16241223 Welsh
5.19384251 Dutch
5.25249465 Sweden_Götaland
5.75115641 German_Northwest
5.81993127 English

catgeorge
08-21-2021, 09:36 AM
Target: catgeorge
Distance: 0.6058% / 0.60576379
25.7 Greek_West
23.2 Greek_Istanbul
15.6 Italian_Marche
15.3 Austrian
6.1 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
5.4 Greek_Trabzon
4.3 Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.6 Italian_Trentino
2.4 Swiss_Italian
0.3 Greek_Andros_Island

Arzanene
08-21-2021, 09:45 AM
Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9009% / 1.90091955
69.6 Icelandic
19.6 West_Scottish
9.3 Irish_Ulster
1.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9088% / 1.90880770 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.1 Icelandic
24.7 Irish_Ulster
0.9 Dargin
0.3 Karitiana

With Icelandic removed.


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9875% / 1.98746505
47.1 Norwegian
35.6 West_Scottish
14.8 Irish_Ulster
2.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana

Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 2.0010% / 2.00096682 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.3 Norwegian
40.5 West_Scottish
10.7 Irish_Ulster
2.5 Dargin

These calculators can't distinguish between certain populations. What's the issue here? They are only calculators after all and they aren't looking at your dna like a geneticist.


Icelandic and Norwegian are Celto-germanic mixed populations. the calculators breakdown the celtic and germanic admixture and assigns the population closest to the amount of Germanic and Celtic you have. And there are tons of Celtic germanic mixed populations, English, Dutch, frisian, flemish, northwest German...ect. you would have to delete many more populations from the source to fully separate the irish from the Germanic admixture.

Art23
08-21-2021, 09:45 AM
I am not Russian.

Target: Art23
Distance: 1.9162% / 1.91621302 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.5 Russian_Southwest
41.8 Ukrainian
15.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace


Distance to: Art23
3.50229924 Moldova_Ukrainian
4.90887971 Ukrainian
5.84511762 Ukrainian_Galicia
6.28949919 Ukrainian_Carpathian
6.39032081 Russian_Southwest
7.02211507 Mazovia
7.26293329 Polish_Kielce
7.48875156 Silesian
7.56059521 South_Polish
8.16550060 Lower_Silesia
8.50087643 Greater_Poland
9.10047252 Belarusian_Minsk
9.18090409 Polish
9.27115419 Russian_average
9.34504682 Russian_Smolensk
9.55038219 Slovak
9.72053496 Bosniak_Bosnia
9.84622770 Podlaskie
10.09345332 Sorb_Lusatia
10.23511114 Croat_East
10.30592063 Mordovian
10.41493639 Hungarian_North
10.43146682 Belorussian
10.46901141 Kujawy
10.66853786 Moldova_North

Dunai
08-21-2021, 09:50 AM
Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9009% / 1.90091955
69.6 Icelandic
19.6 West_Scottish
9.3 Irish_Ulster
1.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9088% / 1.90880770 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.1 Icelandic
24.7 Irish_Ulster
0.9 Dargin
0.3 Karitiana

With Icelandic removed.


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9875% / 1.98746505
47.1 Norwegian
35.6 West_Scottish
14.8 Irish_Ulster
2.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana

Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 2.0010% / 2.00096682 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.3 Norwegian
40.5 West_Scottish
10.7 Irish_Ulster
2.5 Dargin

These calculators can't distinguish between certain populations. What's the issue here? They are only calculators after all and they aren't looking at your dna like a geneticist.

Yes, since certain populations in Europe are so close with one another, than if you differ a little bit more from your national average (as in your case), you might get rather the results from the population which is closest to your national or regional average. With mixed people you will get somehow the populations in between your main two or three populations. But the minor percentage estimates are pretty interesting to see, since they show those small parts of your ancestry that you might have not known about.

oszkar07
08-21-2021, 09:51 AM
I am curious after K13 updated (Vahaduo) has received so much more regional and national additions, what ethnic composition do you receive based on the most recent form of the calculator? Post your data with Add Dist Col 0.25X.

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.7810% / 0.78095020 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
38.2 Austrian
18.0 North-Swedish
2.1 Kirgiz

Your looks nice with the Hungarian Szekely result.
Your Nth Swedish probably doesnt make sense in terms of your ancestry.

Personally I dont find K13 modelling composition very good.
Because it tends to produce a balancing act of populations that will produce the lowest distance and the modelling I think is based on components .
For example because I get around 1.80 Red Sea I get attributed small % Saudi ...do I actually have Saudi ancestry ...most likely not .
Because I get 2.29 % Siberian ... K13 attributes me some Finnish % ...do I have Finnish ancestry probably not.
On the otherhand the Austrian and German % I get are probably midpoint populations between my Hungarian and British ancestry but on their own probably not specific to my actual ancestry.
On the other hand the distance to populations result I get in K13 is probably not too unrealistic given my background.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.4838% / 1.48379279 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Austrian
32.8 German
22.4 Southwest_Finnish
4.4 Saudi


Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
5.04733593 German_East
7.00882301 German
7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.14288647 Czech
8.25083632 Slovenian
8.82207459 Hungarian
9.51402123 Croat_North
9.59022419 Hungarian_North
9.87401134 Slovak
9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
10.03557173 French_Alsace
10.11848309 German_South
10.13897924 German_West
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.10263933 Afrikaner
11.34722874 North_German
11.69236931 Croat
11.71474712 Dutch_South
11.72224381 Swiss_German2
11.72239310 Croat_West
11.80086014 Belgian
11.80086014 Flemish
11.95351831 German_Northwest
12.05339786 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely

Grace O'Malley
08-21-2021, 10:05 AM
Icelandic and Norwegian are Celto-germanic mixed populations. the calculators breakdown the celtic and germanic admixture and assigns the population closest to the amount of Germanic and Celtic you have. And there are tons of Celtic germanic mixed populations, English, Dutch, frisian, flemish, northwest German...ect. you would have to delete many more populations from the source to fully separate the irish from the Germanic admixture.

I just delete Icelandic because they are an island population that are a mixture of Scandinavian and Irish/Scots so not a source population. I know Irish are Northwestern Europeans. I was just meaning that the calculators like this have trouble really showing your correct ethnicity unlike a test like 23&Me for example.

Dunai
08-21-2021, 10:47 AM
Your looks nice with the Hungarian Szekely result.
Your Nth Swedish probably doesnt make sense in terms of your ancestry.

Personally I dont find K13 modelling composition very good.
Because it tends to produce a balancing act of populations that will produce the lowest distance and the modelling I think is based on components .
For example because I get around 1.80 Red Sea I get attributed small % Saudi ...do I actually have Saudi ancestry ...most likely not .
Because I get 2.29 % Siberian ... K13 attributes me some Finnish % ...do I have Finnish ancestry probably not.
On the otherhand the Austrian and German % I get are probably midpoint populations between my Hungarian and British ancestry but on their own probably not specific to my actual ancestry.
On the other hand the distance to populations result I get in K13 is probably not too unrealistic given my background.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.4838% / 1.48379279 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Austrian
32.8 German
22.4 Southwest_Finnish
4.4 Saudi


Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
5.04733593 German_East
7.00882301 German
7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.14288647 Czech
8.25083632 Slovenian
8.82207459 Hungarian
9.51402123 Croat_North
9.59022419 Hungarian_North
9.87401134 Slovak
9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
10.03557173 French_Alsace
10.11848309 German_South
10.13897924 German_West
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.10263933 Afrikaner
11.34722874 North_German
11.69236931 Croat
11.71474712 Dutch_South
11.72224381 Swiss_German2
11.72239310 Croat_West
11.80086014 Belgian
11.80086014 Flemish
11.95351831 German_Northwest
12.05339786 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely

To a certain point I do agree that there might be some small flaws in these calculators that won't offer you a perfect result, but I still believe K13 is the best calculator for modern population estimates, better than the commercial DNA test companies provide. Since you are two-way mixed, you obviously won't get as precise estimates as someone with only one major ancestry, but I can assume that Saudi percentage might wanna tell you that possibly on your Hungarian side you had some Middle Eastern ancestry deep down, or who knows, maybe it comes from your British side, who were world travelers.

oszkar07
08-21-2021, 10:50 AM
Distance to: Arzanene
5.90901007 Greek_Caucasus
6.02751192 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.25075195 Greek_Trabzon
7.15753449 Armenian
7.33901220 Armenian_West
7.66313252 Armenian_East
9.38529701 Georgian_Jewish
9.65586350 Laz
9.67809382 Turk_East
10.43876908 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
10.55185766 Turk_Meskhetian
10.69691077 Turk_South_East
11.02933815 Assyrian_North
11.22432181 Zaza
11.42334452 Assyrian_South
11.45686257 Assyrian_West
11.47100693 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
11.55426328 Turkmen_Iraq
12.23425519 Kurd_Iran
12.30438946 Turk_Turkey_average
12.85032684 Kurd_Sorani
12.98328541 Greek_Cappadocian
13.01509124 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.35202232 Kurdish
13.38153952 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: Arzanene
Distance: 2.9682% / 2.96817031 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 Greek_Caucasus
33.3 Laz
6.5 Italian_Sardinia
4.0 Sakilli

alternate admixture

Target: Arzanene
Distance: 4.5211% / 4.52105736 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.4 Armenian_West
21.3 Georgian_imereti
7.9 Italian_Sardinia
2.4 Velamas

How did you do the alternate admixture.

Below is my wife's result she is Armenian from Iran.

Target:Oszkar'sWife
Distance: 1.4207% / 1.42067907 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Greek_Caucasus
20.5 Talysh
9.4 Georgian_Jewish
9.1 Armenian_East
3.6 Lebanese_Druze
0.4 Latvian

Distance to: Oszkar'sWife
2.45611482 Armenian
2.65969923 Armenian_East
3.88971721 Armenian_West
3.90453582 Greek_Caucasus
4.82037343 Georgian_Jewish
4.93634480 Greek_Trabzon
5.61142584 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.16194806 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
7.75521115 Turk_East
7.87316963 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.22800705 Assyrian_North
8.42585901 Turk_South_East
8.45056211 Zaza
8.51076965 Turkmen_Iraq
8.79772698 Assyrian_South
8.95810806 Assyrian_West
9.04941435 Laz
9.29273910 Kurd_Iran
9.30705646 Kurd_Sorani
9.81293534 Kurdish
9.85492263 Turk_Meskhetian
10.42772746 Talysh
10.67621656 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.02980961 Mandean
11.03966485 Azerbaijani_Turkey

PAGANE
08-21-2021, 11:18 AM
Pagane:

Distance: 0.4306% / 0.43056887
35.1 Austrian
17.7 Belarusian
10.7 Georgian_Hebrew
8.4 Greek_chios
6.8 Lebanese_Christian
5.4 Georgian
4.8 Norwegian
2.3 Laz
2.1 Saudi
1.9 Pomak_Bulgaria
1.8 Swiss_Italian
1.4 Greek_Eastern-Thracian
1.4 Greek_trabzon




Distance to: Pagane
5.49337783 Bulgaria_Northeast
6.73392159 Bulgaria_Southwest
6.77109297 Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.86515113 Bulgaria_average value
6.93183237 Romania_Muntenia
7.07248895 Romania_ Wallachia
7.14602687 Bulgaria_Southeast
7.21169190 Romania_Dobruja
7.24403893 Turk_Deliorman
7.30625759 Bulgaria_South Center
7.57826497 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.59844063 Romania_Oltenia
7.65735594 Romania_Banat
7.72326356 Pomak_Greece
7,74647016 Romania_average
7.75187719 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
8.01981920 Romania_Moldova_South
8.11483826 Romania_Transylvania
8.17517584 Bulgaria_Northwest
8.46944508 Bošnjak_Sandzak
8.47881478 Moldova_South
8.48776178 Serbian_South_Montenegro
8.87956643 Macedonian _ North
8.96397233 Montenegrin
9.06029801 Vlach (Aromanian) _average value

Purpose: Pagan
Distance: 1.0979% / 1.09794128 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Pomak_Greece
22.7 Bulgaria_Northeast
19.1 North_Germany
10.5 Tabasaran
6.0 Saudi

Leto
08-21-2021, 01:21 PM
There was at least one thread about K13 Vahaduo.

Who added these Polish pops? The word Polish is missing, not everyone is supposed to know what Kujawy or Podlaskie is

Distance to: Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
3.31190278 Russian_average
4.05414603 Russian_Kostroma
4.62871472 Russian_Southwest
4.89587582 Mordovian
5.23661150 Russian_Kargopol
5.81397454 Ukrainian
5.88755467 Russian_Smolensk
6.38461432 Mazovia
6.41117774 Belarusian_Minsk
6.63856912 Russian_Northern_Dvina
6.87531090 Belorussian
7.20995146 Polish_Kielce
7.36619305 Podlaskie
7.54497184 Kujawy
7.55859775 Polish
8.63229402 Greater_Poland
9.10361467 South_Polish
9.17712373 Lower_Silesia
9.22854810 Polish_Masuria
9.24211556 Moldova_Ukrainian

Target: Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
Distance: 1.2622% / 1.26218879 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.8 Russian_Kostroma
12.1 Polish
9.9 Russian_Smolensk
6.9 Russian_average
3.3 Saudi
1.0 Karitiana


Distance to: Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
4.20736259 Russian_Smolensk
4.28399346 Belarusian_Minsk
4.83150080 Kujawy
4.99538787 Russian_average
5.54149799 Lithuanian
6.06098177 Belorussian
6.12467958 Mazovia
6.41957164 Russian_Kargopol
6.62116304 Russian_Southwest
6.74490178 Russian_Kostroma
7.02482740 Polish
7.39785780 Ukrainian
7.55277432 Polish_Kielce
7.98814121 Mordovian
8.11964285 Estonian
8.35177825 Russian_Northern_Dvina
8.73361323 Podlaskie
8.77946468 Lower_Silesia
9.06180446 Polish_Masuria
9.40781058 Latvian

Target: Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
Distance: 1.6628% / 1.66282228 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.0 Latvian
39.8 Lower_Silesia
12.9 Russian_Kargopol
1.9 Kujawy
1.4 Dargin


Distance to: Leto_Mom(Russian)
3.13335284 Mordovian
4.27915880 Russian_Kostroma
4.35253949 Russian_Kargopol
5.32656550 Russian_Northern_Dvina
5.39065859 Russian_average
7.52068481 Russian_Southwest
8.66844853 Russian_Smolensk
8.76212874 Belarusian_Minsk
9.56834364 Ukrainian
9.60279126 Belorussian
10.01031968 East_Finnish
10.02359217 Mazovia
10.64202518 Kujawy
10.75852685 Lithuanian
11.10746146 Podlaskie
11.26708924 Polish_Kielce
11.45738626 Polish
11.87284717 Estonian
12.34536350 Finnish
12.61220441 Lower_Silesia

Target: Leto_Mom(Russian)
Distance: 1.7735% / 1.77345110 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.1 Mordovian
27.3 Russian_Northern_Dvina
19.8 Latvian
8.3 Chuvash
2.7 Saudi
0.8 Karitiana

CommonSense
08-21-2021, 02:09 PM
Target: CommonSense
Distance: 1.9030% / 1.90301565 | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.3 Serb_Serbia_West
4.3 Dargin
1.8 Kalash
1.6 Italian_Sardinia

Without any ADC I get a breakdown similar to others in the thread:

Target: CommonSense
Distance: 0.5081% / 0.50808037
40.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
29.8 Silesian
11.5 Lower_Silesia
7.5 French_Basque
5.0 Georgian_imereti
3.0 Dargin
1.7 Italian_Sardinia
1.2 Kalash

Gallop
08-21-2021, 02:26 PM
Father FTDNA

Target: Father
Distance: 1.4454% / 1.44537981 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.5 Southwest_French
39.9 Spanish_Valencia
4.5 Spanish_Galicia
3.5 Yoruban
1.8 Italian_Sardinia
0.8 Dolgan


Father 23andMe

Target: Father
Distance: 1.1726% / 1.17256587 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.3 Spanish_Cantabria
35.5 Southwest_French
10.2 Swiss-Italian2
8.7 Spanish_Cataluńa
3.1 Yoruban
1.2 Selkup

Well in this case it was 23andMe that was given to my father by an Italian ancestor from the 1700s backwards.


Target: Gallop
Distance: 1.7108% / 1.71076155 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.5 French_Southwest
32.3 Southwest_French
8.0 Ossetian
3.9 Somali
1.3 Lak


Well you have to use some imagination with some very exotic results like lak for example.

In this case the result of Ossetia I had seen in these results:

Eurasia - Modern Origins
Third Oracle Run
This mathematical setting divides your genome into 8 fragments, with each fragment representing 12.5% of your genome. This setting is very useful in modern ethnicity estimates, since the size of the generated fragments match perfectly the percentage of DNA inherited from a great-grandfather.

Aquitaine : 62.5%
Asturias : 12.5%
Cantabria : 12.5%
North_Ossetia : 12.5%


Thus, these K13 are a very biased and incomplete part, you can glimpse something but it is obviously not the whole. Thus these K13 are a very biased and incomplete part, you can glimpse something but it is obviously not the whole and some results must be reinterpreted because they must go somewhere else than the result.

PAGANE
08-21-2021, 03:04 PM
Purpose: pagan brother

Distance: 1.4243% / 1.42430418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.7 Bulgaria_Northeastern
8.2 Lak
4.2 Bulgaria_Southeastern
3.2 Saudi
2.7 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan


Distance to: pagan brother
5.05170268 Bulgaria_Southeastern
5.13682781 Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.30302744 Turk_Deliorman
5.96918755 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.77966813 Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.98126063 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.00120704 Bulgaria_average
7.00959343 Pomak_Greece
7.07610769 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.37461185 Romania_Muntenia
7.39647889 Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.43971774 Turk_Makedonya
7.75521115 Romania_Wallachia
7.84524697 Romania_Dobruja
7.96809889 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
8.11210823 Turk_Trakya
8.53287173 Macedonian_South
8.60557378 Macedonian_North
8.62631439 Romania_Banat
8.70491241 Macedonian
8.75435320 Romania_Oltenia
9.03472744 Bulgaria_Northwestern
9.15375333 Romania_average
9.41053133 Moldova_South
9.42568300 Bosniak_Sandzak

Purpose: mother of pagan

Distance: 0.5263% / 0.52634487 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.7 Greek_Istanbul
31.4 Pomak_Greece
8.4 North_German
2.5 Dargin




Distance to: mother of pagan
4.83465614 Turk_Makedonya
5.73365503 Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.16801427 Turk_Deliorman
6.32913106 Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.52059046 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.88844685 Greek_Istanbul
6.90467233 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
7.55405851 Turk_Trakya
7.59185089 Greek_Northeast
7.85539942 Pomak_Greece
7.92847400 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.94112712 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.10781105 Bulgaria_Northcentral
8.13366461 Greek_Northern-Thrace
8.23457346 Greek
8.24972727 Macedonian_South
8.34326075 Macedonian
8.37500448 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
8.38466457 Bulgaria_average
8.52844652 Pomak_Bulgaria
8.52938450 Macedonian_North
8.55414519 Greek_Central_Macedonia
8.63557902 Greek_Thessaly
8.99263032 Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.07348885 Romania_Muntenia

Lemminkäinen
08-21-2021, 03:30 PM
Distance to: Mm
3.92512420 Southwest_Finnish
5.08927303 Finnish
6.64627715 Estonian
7.33992507 Polish_Masuria
9.02140787 Polish
9.04420256 East_Finnish
9.13783344 Podlaskie
9.15074860 Kujawy
9.41718111 Greater_Poland
9.82296289 Sorb_Lusatia
10.02744733 Belorussian
10.42898845 Polish_Kielce
10.66616613 Russian_Smolensk
10.82567319 South_Polish
11.13265916 Mazovia
11.31038019 Russian_average
11.49362867 Russian_Kostroma
11.73129149 Belarusian_Minsk
11.83323286 Russian_Northern_Dvina
12.06009121 Lithuanian
12.24005719 Lower_Silesia
12.32563183 North-Swedish
12.43800627 Silesian
12.50424328 Russian_Kargopol
12.68254312 Ukrainian

Target: Mm
Distance: 0.6823% / 0.68230414
67.1 Estonian
29.0 North-Swedish
2.0 Irish_Connacht
1.3 Dai
0.6 Kalash

Target: Mm
Distance: 0.8089% / 0.80892607 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.3 Estonian
32.6 North-Swedish
1.6 Cambodian
1.5 Lower_Silesia

MandM
08-21-2021, 04:17 PM
(Dnagenetic "Myheritage raw dna")

Distance to: Milenko
4.38131259 Moldova_South
4.60924072 Romania_Banat
4.66804027 Romania_average
4.86537768 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.95751954 Romania_Transylvania
5.05071282 Romania_Oltenia
5.10327346 Montenegrin
5.18807286 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
5.20640951 Romania_Dobruja
5.30510132 Romania_Wallachia
5.43000921 Romania_Maramures
5.57362539 Serb_Serbia_South
5.59595390 Romania_Muntenia
5.66559794 Serb_Herzegovina
5.66864181 Romania_Crisana
5.73685454 Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.74845197 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.80634997 Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.89350490 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.16802237 Serb
6.34447003 Bulgaria_average
6.43099526 Serb_Serbia_West
6.64088097 Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.79540286 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.90734392 Serb_Serbia_Central

Target: Milenko
Distance: 0.5734% / 0.57340879 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.5 Moldova_North
23.6 Moldova_South
12.6 Italian_Sardinia
4.9 Kabardin
2.1 Burusho
1.5 Yoruban
1.1 NAN_Melanesian
0.7 Mayan

Kyp
08-21-2021, 04:25 PM
Target: Kyp_new
Distance: 2.3851% / 2.38505190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.1 Greek_Istanbul
20.8 Turk_Deliorman
18.6 North_German
16.2 Tajik_Mountain
3.8 Brahmin_UP
2.5 Pamiri_Tajikistan

Ford
08-21-2021, 04:26 PM
Target: Ford
Distance: 1.6261% / 1.62605661 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2 Serb_Serbia_Central
27.4 Croat_South
15.8 Silesian
11.1 Serb_Bosnia
2.3 Italian_Sardinia
1.2 Evens

Distance to: Ford
2.35223298 Croat_South
2.58474370 Serb_Bosnia
3.20604117 Bosniak
3.36743226 Serb_Croatia
3.68657022 Serb_Serbia_West
3.71506393 Croat_West
3.94281625 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.03519516 Serb
4.05688304 Croat
4.17934205 Serb_Serbia_Central
4.25633645 Moldova_Centre
4.28175198 Moldova_average
4.51524086 Croat_East
4.81130959 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.98885758 Bosniak_Bosnia
5.02282789 Moldova_North
5.10609440 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
5.17266856 Csángó-Ceangău
5.18020270 Romania_Maramures
5.46107132 Serb_Herzegovina
5.61780206 Hungarian_Alföld
6.10873146 Serb_Serbia_South
6.54922896 Hungarian
6.73150800 Romania_Crisana
6.87466363 Croat_North

xripkan
08-21-2021, 04:28 PM
Distance to: xripkan
1.37437258 Greek_Peloponnese
2.41294426 Greek
2.62977185 Greek_West
2.92554268 Greek_Central
3.32317619 Greek_Athens
3.47564383 Greek_Central_Macedonia
3.70347134 Greek_Northeast
3.89984615 Greek_West_Macedonia
4.36793143 Greek_Thessaly
4.72841411 Albanian_Tosk
5.68926182 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
5.85422924 Albanian
5.99035057 Turk_Crete
5.99037561 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
6.02474896 Greek_Western-Thrace
6.24023237 Greek_Ionia
6.36879109 Torbesh_average
6.47967592 Turk_Makedonya
6.61734841 Greek_Cyclades
6.65580198 Albanian_Gheg
7.27686746 Greek_Andros_Island
7.52339019 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
8.20833723 Greek_Istanbul
8.29227351 Italian_Abruzzo
8.32677609 Italian_Apulia


Target: xripkan
Distance: 0.4024% / 0.40243473 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.7 Greek_Peloponnese
38.3 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
15.2 Greek_Athens
1.4 Italian_Sardinia
0.4 Papuan

noricum
08-21-2021, 04:31 PM
Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 1.2506% / 1.25057131
35.6 Sorb_Lusatia
27.5 Swiss_Italian
27.4 Podlaskie
6.9 Swedish
1.8 Moldova_Jewish
0.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace

Distance to: Noricum(austrian)
4.44460347 Slovenian
4.95194911 Hungarian_North
5.32910874 Czech
5.40303618 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.69833309 Croat_North
5.73794388 Hungarian
5.94019360 Slovak
6.32977093 German_East
6.56773172 Hungarian_Alföld
7.08048021 Austrian
7.91621753 Croat
8.23562384 Croat_West
8.71780362 Sorb_Lusatia
9.04880103 Croat_East
9.42970307 Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.83650853 Ukrainian_Galicia
10.05101487 Bosniak_Bosnia
10.11249722 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
10.29181714 South_Polish
10.39665331 Croat_South
10.41445630 Csángó-Ceangău
11.35956865 Moldova_Ukrainian
11.62948408 Bosniak
11.66143216 Greater_Poland
12.25356275 German

Target: noricum_halfbro(austrian)
Distance: 1.3589% / 1.35887931
33.9 Podlaskie
26.2 Latvian
17.4 Silesian
7.9 Moldova_Jewish
6.1 Italian_Sardinia
5.0 Swiss_Italian
1.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace
1.2 Chamar
0.6 Austroasiatic_Ho
0.3 Papuan

Distance to: noricum_halfbro(austrian)
4.21430896 Moldova_Ukrainian
4.82964802 Ukrainian_Galicia
5.32049810 Ukrainian_Carpathian
5.86608046 Silesian
6.26136567 South_Polish
6.42766676 Slovak
6.81549705 Ukrainian
6.95057552 Polish_Kielce
7.04647430 Greater_Poland
7.28412658 Sorb_Lusatia
7.40884606 Hungarian_North
7.95156588 Mazovia
8.28205892 Lower_Silesia
8.31794446 Czech
8.61199745 Polish
8.64033564 Croat_North
8.91618192 Bosniak_Bosnia
8.99415922 Slovenian
9.01452716 Podlaskie
9.05275649 Polish_Masuria
9.15120757 Croat_East
9.38571787 Russian_Southwest
9.72755365 Hungarian_Alföld
10.01494383 Croat
10.19694072 Hungarian

Target: noricum_sisinlaw(austrian)
Distance: 0.4903% / 0.49026153
24.8 Cornish
23.5 Lower_Silesia
15.6 French_Basque
13.9 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.4 Silesian
6.0 Georgian_imereti
5.7 Italian_Aosta_Valley
4.1 Italian_Sardinia

Distance to: noricum_inlaw(austrian)
5.06555032 Swiss_French
6.72927188 Swiss_German
6.97479032 French_Alsace
7.35238737 Swiss_German2
8.01333264 German_South
8.42478486 Austrian
8.68373192 Pennsylvania_Dutch
9.69551443 French_Northeast
10.25424790 French_Central
10.30281030 Italian_Aosta_Valley
10.62241969 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
11.05628780 Csángó-Ceangău
11.09226307 German_West
11.11232649 German
11.23445593 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
11.62834898 Italian_Trentino
11.66251259 Hungarian
11.67415522 Belgian
11.87283454 Afrikaner
12.00512391 French
12.05460493 Croat_West
12.09325018 Flemish
12.34762730 Hungarian_Alföld
12.47584466 Slovenian
12.60904437 Romania_Crisana

knez01
08-21-2021, 05:23 PM
Target: Knez01
Distance: 3.8179% / 3.81792830 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.1 Moldova_North
5.0 Italian_Sardinia
1.3 Moroccan
0.6 Mayan

Distance to: Knez01
4.92061988 Moldova_North
5.24332910 Moldova_average
5.28134453 Bosniak
5.48295541 Serb_Bosnia
5.49484304 Moldova_Centre
6.35488001 Croat_South
6.55354866 Bosniak_Bosnia
6.59244264 Serb
6.62735996 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.67506554 Serb_Croatia
6.91280696 Serb_Serbia_West
7.25758913 Serb_Serbia_Central
7.30636024 Croat_East
7.30765352 Romania_Maramures
7.38708332 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.52099727 Serb_Herzegovina
7.60600421 Serb_Serbia_South
7.94275771 Croat
8.57818163 Croat_West
8.70672728 Moldova_South
8.81389812 Csángó-Ceangău
9.17439916 Montenegrin
9.48692258 Romania_Moldavia_South
9.49301849 Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.56486278 Hungarian_Alföld

Lemminkäinen
08-21-2021, 06:35 PM
I'm Slavic as Fuck 😂

SouthDutch7991
08-21-2021, 06:37 PM
I am curious after K13 updated (Vahaduo) has received so much more regional and national additions, what ethnic composition do you receive based on the most recent form of the calculator? Post your data with Add Dist Col 0.25X.

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.7810% / 0.78095020 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
38.2 Austrian
18.0 North-Swedish
2.1 Kirgiz

Target: south
Distance: 1.3547% / 1.35470326 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 Southeast_English
18.7 South_Dutch
16.4 Southwest_French
3.9 La_Brana-1
3.9 Southwest_Finnish
3.0 East_German
1.1 Yoruban


I always get some SSA on modern populations, but not with ancient models.

vbnetkhio
08-21-2021, 06:41 PM
Mine gets broken down into distant components, plus some Moldovan which is close to me.

Distance: 1.1255% / 1.12554554 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace
33.9 Latvian
17.8 Italian_Sardinia
8.6 Moldova_North

Freeroostah
08-21-2021, 06:49 PM
Distance to: VagosAncestryDNA
3.99614815 Greek_Central_Macedonia
4.01203190 Greek_Northeast
4.01953977 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
4.51484219 Bulgaria_Southeastern
4.63129841 Greek_Thessaly
4.66510450 Greek
4.67728554 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
4.88422972 Turk_Makedonya
4.92744356 Greek_West_Macedonia
5.07635696 Albanian_Gheg
5.17849399 Macedonian_South
5.20158630 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
5.29015123 Albanian
5.49377830 Macedonian
5.79411771 Greek_Peloponnese
5.79998276 Greek_West
5.80942338 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
5.89084035 Torbesh_average
6.25253549 Macedonian_North
6.28746372 Albanian_Tosk
6.46901074 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.64778911 Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.76315755 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.62240120 Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.63218186 Bulgaria_average


Target: VagosAncestryDNA
Distance: 1.5372% / 1.53723526 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.3 Bulgaria_Southeastern
20.7 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
20.3 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
1.9 Moroccan
1.8 Saudi

Benyzero
08-21-2021, 06:51 PM
del

Ion Basescul
08-21-2021, 06:54 PM
Target: IonBasescul_Merged
Distance: 0.9205% / 0.92049565 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.7 Romania_Moldavia_North
39.1 Csángó-Ceangău
8.7 Moldova_North
2.3 Nogay
1.2 Xibo

Target: IonBasescul_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.0652% / 1.06516140 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.9 Serb_Bosnia
33.9 Moldova_North
19.6 Csángó-Ceangău
3.8 Nogay
3.1 Balkar
0.4 NAN_Melanesian
0.3 Papuan

Ion Basescul
08-21-2021, 06:57 PM
Target: IonBasescul_Merged
Distance: 0.9205% / 0.92049565 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.7 Romania_Moldavia_North
39.1 Csángó-Ceangău
8.7 Moldova_North
2.3 Nogay
1.2 Xibo

Target: IonBasescul_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.0652% / 1.06516140 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.9 Serb_Bosnia
33.9 Moldova_North
19.6 Csángó-Ceangău
3.8 Nogay
3.1 Balkar
0.4 NAN_Melanesian
0.3 Papuan


Distance to: IonBasescul_Merged
2.72725136 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.21347164 Csángó-Ceangău
3.57769479 Moldova_Centre
3.76293768 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
3.79824960 Moldova_average
3.88015464 Serb_Bosnia
4.02401541 Serb_Serbia_West
4.20286807 Croat_South
4.24467902 Serb_Croatia
4.30984919 Bosniak
4.35443452 Serb
4.46354120 Romania_Maramures
4.85396745 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.98389406 Serb_Serbia_Central
5.25556848 Croat_West
5.51538757 Moldova_North
5.61875431 Serb_Herzegovina
5.68637846 Serb_Serbia_South
5.77633102 Croat
5.87580633 Romania_Crisana
6.20969403 Croat_East
6.28672411 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.44094714 Romania_Transylvania
6.46380693 Bosniak_Bosnia
6.63581193 Hungarian_Alföld

Distance to: IonBasescul_MyHeritage
3.13724401 Moldova_Centre
3.23970678 Moldova_average
3.56343935 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.96229731 Serb_Bosnia
4.29585847 Bosniak
4.45554710 Moldova_North
4.72176874 Serb_Serbia_West
4.75713149 Serb
4.92722031 Serb_Croatia
4.94421885 Croat_South
5.04804913 Romania_Maramures
5.07353920 Csángó-Ceangău
5.46446704 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.73370735 Serb_Serbia_Central
5.85155535 Serb_Serbia_South
6.00887677 Serb_Herzegovina
6.17649577 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
6.32536165 Bosniak_Bosnia
6.57737790 Croat_East
6.73002229 Croat
6.77424535 Croat_West
6.88554283 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.91711645 Romania_Crisana
6.96012213 Moldova_South
7.07968926 Romania_Transylvania

Smitty
08-21-2021, 07:04 PM
Target: Kyp_new
Distance: 2.3851% / 2.38505190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.1 Greek_Istanbul
20.8 Turk_Deliorman
18.6 North_German
16.2 Tajik_Mountain
3.8 Brahmin_UP
2.5 Pamiri_Tajikistan

Am I missing something? Aren't you half German? How does this add up?

Benyzero
08-21-2021, 07:05 PM
WARNING! Number of white-space characters removed in TABSOURCE data: 42. ERROR! Column number mismatch.


what is this junk?

Nanushka
08-21-2021, 07:19 PM
Distance to: buusra
5.64869897 Avar
5.93771842 Chechen
6.73479770 Tabassaran
6.82267543 Lak
7.23203982 Dargin
8.54088403 Lezgin
10.23274645 Ingush
10.27228310 Kabardin
11.70179046 North_Ossetian
11.89860496 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
12.50078798 Adygei
12.60494744 Balkar
12.95630734 Ossetian
13.52080619 Kumyk
17.26199583 Tajik_Lowland
17.29444419 Tajik_Mountain
19.08875847 Pamiri_Tajikistan
20.12579439 Tajik_Tajikistan
21.32160641 Georgian
22.45314009 Nogay
23.41129642 Afghan_Pashtun
23.81027509 Abhkasian
24.31900286 Afghan_Tadjik
24.47414963 Turkmen
25.71020614 Georgian_imereti

Target: buusra
Distance: 1.0157% / 1.01570091
38.7 Lak
27.4 Dargin
16.1 Kabardin
6.3 French_Basque
4.8 Balochi
3.5 Georgian_imereti
2.0 Ossetian
0.7 Mayan
0.5 Selkup

Jana
08-21-2021, 07:19 PM
with myheritage raw data

Target: Stearsolina
Distance: 2.1902% / 2.19019896 | ADC: 0.25x RC

47.8 Serb_Serbia_West
42.9 Lower_Silesia
5.0 Slovenian
2.4 Dargin
1.9 French_Basque

Graham
08-21-2021, 08:21 PM
Target: Graham
Distance: 3.5532% / 3.55323162 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.9 West_Scottish
19.1 Norway_South_Central

Distance to: Graham
3.77874318 West_Scottish
4.56253219 Irish_Munster
4.57329203 Orcadian
4.69972340 Scottish_Southwest
4.90933804 Irish
4.95167648 Scottish_Northeast
4.95699506 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
4.98247930 Scottish
5.03919636 Irish_Ulster
5.05584810 Irish_Connacht

---------------------------------------------------------------
Target: Dad
Distance: 7.0939% / 7.09390180 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.2 West_Scottish
6.8 Spanish_Murcia

Distance to: Dad
7.32879253 West_Scottish
7.87154369 Irish_Munster
7.93927579 Scottish_Southwest
8.10030864 Scottish_East
8.12216104 Orcadian
8.15946077 Scottish
8.23510777 Cornish
8.24567766 Irish_Ulster
8.25895272 Scottish_North_Highlands
8.25912223 Irish

---------------------------------------------------------------
Target: Mum
Distance: 1.1937% / 1.19369584 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.6 Dutch_North
25.0 English_North
17.4 Scottish_Southwest
15.2 Denmark
2.8 Orcadian


Distance to: Mum
1.89813066 Dutch_North
2.24095962 Orcadian
2.31484341 Dutch_Central
2.61566435 Dutch
2.62106848 English_North
2.83379604 Scottish_Northeast
3.12392381 Icelandic
3.16023733 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.17115121 Scottish_East
3.21230447 Scottish_Southwest

Dunai
08-21-2021, 08:30 PM
WARNING! Number of white-space characters removed in TABSOURCE data: 42. ERROR! Column number mismatch.


what is this junk?

Target: Benyzero
Distance: 2.0108% / 2.01083428 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.1 Hungarian_North
8.4 Southwest_French
5.0 Swiss_Italian
3.5 Italian_Sardinia

Gergő Marosvári
08-21-2021, 08:33 PM
Distance to: Gergő
3.93428520 Hungarian_North
4.00356091 Ukrainian_Carpathian
4.64394229 Croat_North
4.90578230 Slovak
4.95986895 Bosniak_Bosnia
5.16703009 Croat_East
5.28678541 Hungarian_Alföld
5.31903187 Slovenian
5.40835465 Croat
5.75450258 Ukrainian_Galicia
5.78159148 Hungarian
6.30912038 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.39768708 Moldova_Ukrainian
6.84370514 Croat_West
7.27851633 Czech
7.37974254 Moldova_North
7.41474207 Croat_South
7.64490026 Bosniak
8.38829542 South_Polish
8.85695772 Serb_Bosnia
8.89894938 Csángó-Ceangău
9.14359339 Sorb_Lusatia
9.34996257 Moldova_Centre
9.46663615 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
9.62639081 Moldova_average

Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.1559% / 2.15589101 | ADC: 0.25x
47.3 Hungarian_North
33.3 Bosniak_Bosnia
17.6 Silesian
1.5 Chamar
0.3 Yoruban

Gergő Marosvári
08-21-2021, 08:36 PM
My grandma:

Distance to: Ilona
3.96165370 Czech
4.90283591 Slovenian
5.16552998 Hungarian_North
5.24958094 German_East
5.25661488 Slovak
5.73558192 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.09282365 Croat_North
6.27632854 Hungarian
7.06496284 Austrian
7.18697433 Hungarian_Alföld
7.37761479 Sorb_Lusatia
8.68699027 Croat
9.17442096 South_Polish
9.19635797 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.28124992 Croat_West
9.37320650 Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.56225392 Croat_East
10.44068963 Bosniak_Bosnia
10.47234931 Greater_Poland
10.89635260 Moldova_Ukrainian
11.00737480 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
11.03862310 Csángó-Ceangău
11.35406095 Croat_South
11.58763565 Polish_Masuria
12.01293053 German

Target: Ilona
Distance: 2.1272% / 2.12720610 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Hungarian_North
39.1 Czech
16.4 Swedish
2.0 Sorb_Lusatia
1.7 Yemenite_Jewish

Gergő Marosvári
08-21-2021, 08:38 PM
My mother:

Distance to: Katalin
2.98511306 Croat_East
3.07180729 Bosniak_Bosnia
3.19787429 Ukrainian_Carpathian
4.01914170 Hungarian_North
4.14492461 Croat
4.32244144 Croat_North
4.65862641 Hungarian_Alföld
5.38845989 Moldova_North
5.48792310 Hungarian
5.52353148 Slovenian
5.57548204 Slovak
5.79851705 Croat_West
5.86644697 Ukrainian_Galicia
5.97584304 Croat_South
6.06004950 Bosniak
6.22328691 Moldova_Ukrainian
6.23782815 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.32142063 Serb_Bosnia
7.80330058 Moldova_Centre
7.96620361 Csángó-Ceangău
8.05443356 Moldova_average
8.17417274 Czech
8.33788342 Romania_Moldavia_North
8.52230603 Serb_Croatia
8.58421225 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely

Target: Katalin
Distance: 1.7144% / 1.71443379 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.8 Bosniak_Bosnia
29.9 Hungarian_North
16.6 Moldova_Ukrainian
4.7 Croat_East

Vrazijadivizija
08-21-2021, 08:51 PM
Target: Vrazijadivizija
Distance: 3.2483% / 3.24832038 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.2 Silesian
33.6 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.2 Yemenite_Jewish

Jana
08-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Interesting how many south-west Slavic members who posted their breakdown so far get Silesian or Lower Silesian. These references are ethnically Polish, of course.

Benyzero
08-21-2021, 09:13 PM
Target: Benyzero
Distance: 2.0108% / 2.01083428 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.1 Hungarian_North
8.4 Southwest_French
5.0 Swiss_Italian
3.5 Italian_Sardinia

Köszi, megtaláltad a koordinátámat akkor látom.

de Burgh II
08-21-2021, 09:24 PM
Target: de_Burgh_II
Distance: 1.0412% / 1.04119657 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.6 Irish_Leinster
31.6 Irish_Munster
18.2 Spanish_Aragon
7.6 Cornish


Distance to: de_Burgh_II
3.14090751 French_Northwest
3.68901071 Cornish
3.71596555 English_Southwest
4.06268384 Welsh
4.17378725 English_Midlands
4.17524850 English
4.33051960 English_Southeast
4.47549997 Scottish_North_Highlands
4.64960213 Scottish_East
4.72016949 Irish_Leinster
4.75903352 English_North
5.05725222 Scottish
5.11019569 Scottish_Southwest
5.16602362 Scottish_Northeast
5.56410819 Irish
5.80734018 Irish_Munster
5.90818923 Orcadian
5.91575862 Irish_Ulster
5.97822716 West_Scottish
6.09255283 Dutch_South
6.17531376 Irish_Connacht
6.41341563 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
6.45360364 Flemish
6.58249953 Dutch
6.79189223 Belgian

Kyp
08-21-2021, 09:44 PM
Am I missing something? Aren't you half German? How does this add up?

Greek, Turk_Deliorman (Bulgaria) and Tajik all have significant more European DNA than Azeris thats why they eat the North-European like DNA. But yeah the modelling is plain wrong for me

On the other hand you can see the 2-way modelling is actually super accurate:

Distance to: Kyp_new
3.19852700 50.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 50.00% German_East
3.28023047 49.60% Azeri + 50.40% German_East
3.49533182 53.40% Austrian + 46.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey

Dunai
08-21-2021, 09:54 PM
Greek, Turk_Deliorman (Bulgaria) and Tajik all have significant more European DNA than Azeris thats why they eat the North-European like DNA. But yeah the modelling is plain wrong for me

On the other hand you can see the 2-way modelling is actually super accurate:

Distance to: Kyp_new
3.19852700 50.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 50.00% German_East
3.28023047 49.60% Azeri + 50.40% German_East
3.49533182 53.40% Austrian + 46.60% Azerbaijani_Turkey

Do you have DNA from your German side? Based on your breakdown I would assume it is quite more southern and eastern than regular German averages.

Dick
08-21-2021, 11:12 PM
Interesting how many south-west Slavic members who posted their breakdown so far get Silesian or Lower Silesian. These references are ethnically Polish, of course.

what region is the West_Croat sample from

Celestia
08-21-2021, 11:27 PM
Target: Celestia
Distance: 1.0738% / 1.07379019 | R5P
60.5 Denmark
30.4 Spanish_Cataluna
7.2 Irish_Munster
1.9 NAN_Melan


Distance to: Celestia
2.33405227 Dutch_South
2.79195272 Flemish
2.93368369 French_Northwest
3.21866432 English_Southeast
3.35642667 Belgian
3.73174222 Afrikaner
3.74866643 English_Midlands
3.93358615 English
4.06002463 English_Southwest
4.28714357 Cornish
4.48423907 German_West
4.73876566 Dutch
4.92195083 English_North
5.28257513 Welsh
5.44586999 Dutch_Central
6.03916385 German_Northwest
6.04185402 Scottish_East
6.12399379 Scottish_North_Highlands
6.14420866 French_Northeast
6.20382140 Scottish_Northeast
6.30589407 Orcadian
6.56147849 Scottish
6.58298564 German
6.67402427 Irish_Leinster
6.67804612 Scottish_Southwest


Edit: ADC:0.25X with population reduced to 5

Target: Celestia
Distance: 1.4702% / 1.47018497 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Afrikaner
39.9 Cornish
10.0 Flemish
2.7 French_Basque

frankhammer
08-21-2021, 11:38 PM
Where is this done? gedmatch?

Celestia
08-21-2021, 11:42 PM
Where is this done? gedmatch?

Vahaduo, but get your coords from gedmatch

Mitryejd
08-22-2021, 12:40 AM
ffff anyways...


Target: GC5
Distance: 1.4379% / 1.43790325
51.0 Georgian_imereti
19.5 Lebanese_Druze
12.7 Laz
8.7 French_Basque wth????
6.3 Mandean
1.3 She
0.5 Kurdish_Jewish


Distance to: GC5
7.33038880 Turk_East
7.51429970 Armenian_East
7.78097680 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.62936846 Armenian
8.63262417 Turk_Meskhetian
8.66150102 Turk_South_East
8.90957911 Laz
9.25813696 Zaza
9.39121398 Greek_Caucasus
9.56177808 Greek_Trabzon
9.95566673 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
9.99727463 Turkmen_Iraq
10.11213627 Turk_Turkey_average
10.13657733 Armenian_West
10.25074144 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.44912915 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.69491000 Kurd_Iran
10.89133601 Kurdish
11.20896070 Azeri
11.75928569 Kurd_Sorani
12.05856957 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.35552103 Georgian_Jewish
12.42385608 Talysh
13.55682854 Lor_Iran
13.65885061 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

oszkar07
08-22-2021, 12:49 AM
it can not be for me right? where gedmatch ones are already regional scores. so this gonna be too...
but it sounds bullshit because no fucking Druze or Mandean or Basque living near anywhere close to Georgia
otherwise what would be the logical explanation of these scores?
so Does it make sense to delete all non-west Asia ones, but this time will it break the algorithm ?
Target: GC5
Distance: 1.4379% / 1.43790325
51.0 Georgian_imereti im okay with that for a 1/2 Trabzoner...
19.5 Lebanese_Druze
12.7 Laz ok as well
8.7 French_Basque wth????
6.3 Mandean
1.3 She what is this?
0.5 Kurdish_Jewish


Distance to: GC5
7.33038880 Turk_East
7.51429970 Armenian_East
7.78097680 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.62936846 Armenian
8.63262417 Turk_Meskhetian
8.66150102 Turk_South_East
8.90957911 Laz
9.25813696 Zaza
9.39121398 Greek_Caucasus
9.56177808 Greek_Trabzon
9.95566673 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
9.99727463 Turkmen_Iraq
10.11213627 Turk_Turkey_average
10.13657733 Armenian_West
10.25074144 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.44912915 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.69491000 Kurd_Iran
10.89133601 Kurdish
11.20896070 Azeri
11.75928569 Kurd_Sorani
12.05856957 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.35552103 Georgian_Jewish
12.42385608 Talysh
13.55682854 Lor_Iran
13.65885061 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

distance to populations for GC5 seem to strongly suggest GC5 is likely to have some Armenian ancestry. Populations I bolded would indicate this.

Luke35
08-22-2021, 01:08 AM
Posting my 2-way Vahaduo split, as I believe that it has a little more relevance in the context of my specific ancestry:

Target: Mr.G
Distance: 1.4817% / 1.48167976 | R2P
59.2 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
40.8 West_Scottish

Mitryejd
08-22-2021, 03:45 AM
distance to populations for GC5 seem to strongly suggest GC5 is likely to have some Armenian ancestry. Populations I bolded would indicate this.
it shows those ones look a like to some little to none armenoid looking armenians(west armenians?) that i'm aware of.

Rćdwald
08-22-2021, 04:08 AM
AncestryDNA


Distance to: Rćdwald

3.82210675 Dutch_South
4.17618247 Flemish
4.59513874 Belgian
4.67294340 Afrikaner
4.96195526 French_Northwest
5.11103708 English_Southeast
5.58943647 English_Midlands
5.68057215 German_West
5.72277905 English
5.83560622 English_Southwest
5.92092898 Dutch
5.99837478 Cornish
6.47034002 English_North
6.48320908 German
6.53404928 Dutch_Central
6.67252576 German_Northwest
7.03847285 Welsh
7.04160493 French_Northeast
7.44061825 Orcadian
7.50156650 German_South
7.67376700 Scottish_East
7.71653420 Scottish_Northeast
7.75820856 Scottish_North_Highlands
7.79220123 Dutch_North
7.85410721 Pennsylvania_Dutch



Target: Rćdwald
Distance: 3.0105% / 3.01045592 | ADC: 0.5x RC

83.1 Dutch_South
8.4 Orcadian
6.4 Swedish
2.1 Karitiana

Target: Rćdwald
Distance: 1.9893% / 1.98927480 | ADC: 0.25x RC

38.1 Swedish
20.3 Cornish
20.3 Flemish
18.1 Southwest_French
2.0 Karitiana
1.2 Austroasiatic_Ho


23andMe


Distance to: Rćdwald

4.09488706 Dutch_South
4.49367333 Flemish
4.73622212 Afrikaner
4.90625111 Belgian
5.13938712 English_Southeast
5.18416821 French_Northwest
5.61221881 English_Midlands
5.72901388 English
5.74273454 Dutch
5.88594088 English_Southwest
5.90322793 German_West
6.01803124 Cornish
6.30450632 Dutch_Central
6.41672035 English_North
6.49741487 German_Northwest
6.60931161 German
7.06480715 Welsh
7.31778655 Orcadian
7.42674895 French_Northeast
7.53153371 Dutch_North
7.63204429 Scottish_East
7.67535667 Scottish_Northeast
7.72902322 Scottish_North_Highlands
7.83970025 German_South
7.87031130 North_German



Target: Rćdwald
Distance: 3.1885% / 3.18850997 | ADC: 0.5x RC

54.5 Dutch_South
29.2 Dutch
14.2 Afrikaner
2.1 Karitiana

Target: Rćdwald
Distance: 1.8866% / 1.88659476 | ADC: 0.25x RC

54.0 Swedish
23.6 Spanish_Valencia
20.1 Cornish
2.3 Karitiana

Blemoir
08-22-2021, 04:39 AM
Target: blemoir
Distance: 1.0082% / 1.00818405 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.2 Italian_Liguria
20.1 Algerian
11.9 Swiss_Italian
4.5 Portuguese
3.0 Mandenka
1.3 Mayan

Distance to: blemoir
7.36339596 Italian_Tuscan
7.63243081 Italian_Emilia
7.76745776 Italian_Liguria
8.21451155 French_Corsica
8.55844612 Italian_Romagna
8.57935312 Italian
9.04959668 Italian_Umbria
9.05445747 Italian_Lombardy
9.60970343 Italian_Lazio
9.76111674 Italian_Marche
10.02583662 Italian_Piedmont
10.63317450 Italian_Veneto
11.63030524 French_Provence
11.66987575 Italian_Friuli_VG
12.83763997 Swiss-Italian2
12.86991841 Swiss_Italian
12.90825317 Greek_Western-Thrace
12.98804065 Italian_Trentino
13.37151076 Torbesh_average
13.37949551 Albanian_Tosk
13.53259029 Albanian
13.75322144 Albanian_Gheg
13.77028322 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
14.09211925 Greek_Thessaly
14.36983298 Spanish_Extremadura

Kyp
08-22-2021, 06:39 AM
Do you have DNA from your German side? Based on your breakdown I would assume it is quite more southern and eastern than regular German averages.

Distance to: MotherKyp(SouthGerman)
3.11385613 German
5.06355606 German_West
5.87026405 German_South
5.96211372 Dutch_South
5.99342139 Afrikaner
6.16379753 Flemish
6.19645060 French_Alsace
6.32292654 Belgian
6.33061608 Austrian
7.35611310 Swiss_German
7.42399488 French_Northeast
7.66424817 Swiss_German2
7.67883455 Pennsylvania_Dutch
8.19727394 North_German
8.23477383 German_Northwest
8.66412142 English_Southeast
8.67212200 French_Northwest
8.88379986 Dutch
9.06548951 German_East
9.25126478 English_Midlands
9.38495072 English
9.53691250 Dutch_Central
9.64318412 English_Southwest
9.99022522 Cornish
10.10042573 English_North


Target: MotherKyp(SouthGerman)
Distance: 1.3535% / 1.35353296 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.9 German
12.1 Lower_Silesia
10.3 French_Basque
6.7 Austrian
1.0 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator


Target: MotherKyp(SouthGerman)
Distance: 2.5650% / 2.56501453 | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.8 German
12.3 Swiss_French
9.9 Austrian


Fatherside:


Distance to: Kyp_Father(Azeri)
5.18122572 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.87381477 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.34693627 Azeri
8.29522754 Turk_East
8.33713380 Talysh
8.53239122 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.60798467 Turk_South_East
8.69863782 Zaza
8.75701433 Turk_Turkey_average
9.30064514 Kurd_Sorani
9.46871163 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.86987842 Turk_Central_East
9.94116693 Kurdish
10.20719354 Lor_Iran
10.33207627 Iranian
10.45836029 Kurd_Iran
10.68113758 Turkmen_Iraq
10.70138309 Turk_South
10.77978664 Turk_Anatolia
11.40952672 Iran_Centraleast
12.40449918 Turk_Central_West
12.57928456 Turkmen
13.69120155 Kumyk
13.89276430 Armenian_East
14.26409829 Turk_North_West


Target: Kyp_Father(Azeri)
Distance: 2.8087% / 2.80868265 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.7 Azerbaijani_Turkey
37.9 Talysh
6.1 Mari
2.3 North_Kannadi
1.0 Hadza

Target: Kyp_Father(Azeri)
Distance: 3.1074% / 3.10739286 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.3 Azerbaijani_Turkey
29.8 Talysh
5.9 Mari
4.0 Pathan

lockdownboredom
08-22-2021, 07:00 AM
K13
Target: lb
Distance: 0.7429% / 0.74288416 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.5 Greek_Central_Macedonia
16.5 Pomak_Bulgaria

Distance to: lb
1.78143201 Greek_Central_Macedonia
3.13137350 Greek_Northeast
3.17277875 Greek_Thessaly
3.34740198 Greek
3.50254193 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.56227455 Albanian
3.60606434 Greek_West
3.70862508 Albanian_Gheg
4.02100734 Torbesh_average
4.18394551 Greek_West_Macedonia
4.23096916 Albanian_Tosk
4.60261882 Greek_Peloponnese
4.68893378 Macedonian_South
4.76313972 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
4.78835045 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
4.82198092 Macedonian
4.85064944 Turk_Makedonya
4.89955100 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.45564845 Bulgaria_Southeastern
5.72856003 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
5.73247765 Macedonian_North
7.01010699 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.12909531 Greek_Central
7.31748591 Bulgaria_Northeastern
7.33288483 Greek_Western-Thrace


K15
Target: lb
Distance: 1.2224% / 1.22242330 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.0 Albanian-Macedonia
31.6 Bulgarian_Thracian
17.1 Albanian-North
12.1 GR_Macedonia
6.2 Kosovo_Albanian

Distance to: lb
3.22860651 Albanian-Macedonia
3.83245352 Kosovo_Albanian
4.02704606 Greek
4.88276675 GR_Macedonia
5.14752368 Bulgarian_Thracian
5.20776704 GR_Peloponese
5.28093742 Albanian-North
5.71175104 Albanian-Kosovo
5.86751225 Macedonian_2
5.93712051 Albanian-South
6.38466914 Greek_Thessaly
7.35660248 Gagauz
8.07037174 Bulgarian
9.29471114 Macedonian
9.89164799 Romania_South
10.47900282 Italy_Lazio
10.75804350 Central_Greek
10.79423920 Romanian
10.89856413 Italy_Apulia
10.91252033 Italy_Abruzzo
10.98791609 Italy_Marche
11.07967960 Tuscan
11.36700048 Romania_Sw
11.80845032 Polish_Jew
11.83990709 East_Sicilian

Voskos
08-22-2021, 07:41 AM
Target: result
Distance: 0.2260% / 0.22601965 | R6P
35.8 R107_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
24.9 RISE480_Hungary_Vatya.SG_3550_ybp
22.5 Kura_Araxes_
15.1 JK2888_Egypt_Hellenistic_2000_ybp
1.7 I1155_Israel_C_5950_ybp

Target: result
Distance: 1.2458% / 1.24581351 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 Greek_Cyclades
31.3 Greek_Ionia
17.9 Greek_Crete
5.5 Saudi
0.8 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.7 Papuan
0.6 Ethiopian_Amhara

MandM
08-22-2021, 07:56 AM
How do you interpet the distance is it like 0-5 your spot on 6-10 to could be related to those people and so on?

oszkar07
08-22-2021, 08:07 AM
it shows those ones look a like to some little to none armenoid looking armenians(west armenians?) that i'm aware of.

I just know that Armenians often cluster to these.
If you get those at top of your list I would imagine you have some Armenian ancestry.

7.33038880 Turk_East
7.51429970 Armenian_East
7.78097680 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.62936846 Armenian
9.39121398 Greek_Caucasus

Arzanene
08-22-2021, 08:19 AM
How did you do the alternate admixture.

Below is my wife's result she is Armenian from Iran.

Target:Oszkar'sWife
Distance: 1.4207% / 1.42067907 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Greek_Caucasus
20.5 Talysh
9.4 Georgian_Jewish
9.1 Armenian_East
3.6 Lebanese_Druze
0.4 Latvian

Distance to: Oszkar'sWife
2.45611482 Armenian
2.65969923 Armenian_East
3.88971721 Armenian_West
3.90453582 Greek_Caucasus
4.82037343 Georgian_Jewish
4.93634480 Greek_Trabzon
5.61142584 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.16194806 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
7.75521115 Turk_East
7.87316963 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.22800705 Assyrian_North
8.42585901 Turk_South_East
8.45056211 Zaza
8.51076965 Turkmen_Iraq
8.79772698 Assyrian_South
8.95810806 Assyrian_West
9.04941435 Laz
9.29273910 Kurd_Iran
9.30705646 Kurd_Sorani
9.81293534 Kurdish
9.85492263 Turk_Meskhetian
10.42772746 Talysh
10.67621656 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.02980961 Mandean
11.03966485 Azerbaijani_Turkey

I deleted the Pontic populations(greek caucasus, greek Trabzon, turkish east black sea, and Laz) from the source in vahaduo. to separate the Armenian admixture from the Kartvelian. Those source populations are also Armenian mixed with Kartvelian so I cluster close to them and get a mixture of Pontic and Laz.

using the same method for your wife with Georgian_jewish(Assyrian mixed with Caucasus population group) also removed she gets this as a result.

Target: Oszkar_wife(Armenian)
Distance: 2.1688% / 2.16877399 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.3 Armenian_East
13.8 Assyrian_North
9.1 Armenian
0.8 Latvian

Jana
08-22-2021, 08:25 AM
what region is the West_Croat sample from

Average made of samples from Istria, Primorje/Kvarner and Gorski kotar.

Thracian
08-22-2021, 09:57 AM
FTDNA


Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.1969% / 2.19694818 | ADC: 0.25x
43.3 Turk_Trakya
36.3 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
9.0 Bulgaria_Northeastern
7.8 Pamiri_Tajikistan
1.8 Punjabi_Jat
1.8 Saudi


23andMe


Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 2.0663% / 2.06632422 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Turk_Makedonya
7.6 Pamiri_Tajikistan
7.0 Greek_Andros_Island
3.3 Tajik_Tajikistan
2.0 Irish_Ulster
1.4 Saudi
0.7 Brahmin_UP

Lemminkäinen
08-22-2021, 12:02 PM
Finnish results.

Edit. Deleted East-Finnish3 due to c/p error. Not nerve enough to start again :)





Distance to: East_Finnish1
2.58588476 East_Finnish
4.49397374 Russian_Northern_Dvina
6.31381818 Finnish
6.34729076 Russian_Kostroma
7.02128193 Estonian
7.23324962 Russian_Kargopol
8.22033454 Russian_average
9.15938863 Lithuanian
9.31429546 Belorussian
10.08614892 Mordovian
10.19631306 Belarusian_Minsk
10.20268102 Russian_Smolensk
10.70312104 Podlaskie
10.79556390 Kujawy
11.25938275 Latvian
11.48735827 Russian_Southwest
12.02371407 Mazovia
12.14093077 Polish
12.45859141 Polish_Masuria
12.55968949 Southwest_Finnish
12.79725752 Polish_Kielce
12.82428556 Ukrainian
13.60311361 Greater_Poland
14.98174890 South_Polish
15.09891387 Silesian

Target: East_Finnish1
Distance: 1.2330% / 1.23298257 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.9 East_Finnish
16.4 Latvian
4.3 Chuvash
1.4 Tujia

Distance to: East_Finnish2
4.41096361 East_Finnish
4.46835540 Russian_Northern_Dvina
6.22874787 Russian_Kostroma
6.65435947 Russian_Kargopol
6.85092694 Estonian
7.38143617 Lithuanian
7.84454588 Russian_average
8.07442258 Finnish
8.72641393 Latvian
8.88869507 Belorussian
9.18627237 Belarusian_Minsk
9.74189407 Russian_Smolensk
9.76556194 Mordovian
10.38410324 Kujawy
11.13322056 Russian_Southwest
11.14944842 Podlaskie
11.68209313 Mazovia
12.22521165 Polish
12.60768416 Ukrainian
12.79696839 Polish_Kielce
12.91045700 Polish_Masuria
13.98172736 Greater_Poland
14.18752974 Southwest_Finnish
14.80523556 Silesian
15.09754947 Lower_Silesia

Target: East_Finnish2
Distance: 1.0259% / 1.02593807 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.2 East_Finnish
41.8 Latvian
3.5 Selkup
2.5 Russian_Northern_Dvina

Distance to: Southwest_Finnish1
3.61785848 Southwest_Finnish
4.71281232 Finnish
6.76235906 Estonian
8.32666800 Polish_Masuria
8.66500433 East_Finnish
9.26379512 Podlaskie
9.93108755 Polish
10.02719801 Kujawy
10.32270313 Belorussian
10.36542329 Greater_Poland
10.84088096 Sorb_Lusatia
11.28284539 Russian_Smolensk
11.39265992 Polish_Kielce
11.98383077 Russian_Kostroma
12.00734359 South_Polish
12.01405011 Russian_average
12.03478708 Russian_Northern_Dvina
12.04490764 Mazovia
12.32471095 Lithuanian
12.40562372 Belarusian_Minsk
12.44075159 North-Swedish
13.14168178 Russian_Kargopol
13.45755921 Silesian
13.54846855 Ukrainian
13.61971732 Lower_Silesia

Target: Southwest_Finnish1
Distance: 2.0572% / 2.05715644 | ADC: 0.25x RC
67.6 Southwest_Finnish
20.9 Finnish
11.5 Lithuanian

Distance to: Southwest_Finnish2
3.98000000 Southwest_Finnish
4.39957953 Finnish
7.63401598 Estonian
8.58668737 East_Finnish
10.18585784 Polish_Masuria
10.67660058 Podlaskie
11.64900425 Belorussian
11.71798618 Polish
11.76609536 Kujawy
11.94586539 Greater_Poland
12.02889854 North-Swedish
12.23649460 Sorb_Lusatia
12.38250379 Russian_Northern_Dvina
12.59658287 Russian_Kostroma
12.79922263 Russian_Smolensk
12.97495279 Polish_Kielce
13.12203109 Russian_average
13.39054144 Lithuanian
13.43491719 South_Polish
13.54903318 Mazovia
13.74262711 Belarusian_Minsk
13.79619150 Russian_Kargopol
14.79506675 Russian_Southwest
14.98923280 Ukrainian
15.15604830 Silesian

Target: Southwest_Finnish2
Distance: 2.0156% / 2.01564302 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.3 Finnish
22.1 North-Swedish
6.6 Southwest_Finnish

Distance to: Southwest_Finnish3
2.64079533 Southwest_Finnish
7.70423909 Finnish
9.43452172 North-Swedish
10.43507547 Estonian
11.05259698 Polish_Masuria
11.62727827 East_Finnish
12.68369820 Sorb_Lusatia
12.96824583 Podlaskie
13.10379334 Sweden_Svealand_East
13.19795060 Greater_Poland
13.34723941 Polish
13.73538496 Kujawy
14.35661868 Belorussian
14.40160408 South_Polish
14.66454227 Polish_Kielce
14.87215183 Czech
15.23590824 German_East
15.41286151 Russian_Smolensk
15.43969559 Russian_Northern_Dvina
15.58384741 Mazovia
15.67056157 Russian_Kostroma
15.69084128 Russian_average
15.96218657 Silesian
16.29166658 Belarusian_Minsk
16.40914989 Lower_Silesia

Target: Southwest_Finnish3
Distance: 2.5623% / 2.56231980 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.4 Southwest_Finnish
6.6 North-Swedish

Distance to: Southwest_Finnish4
4.76925571 Finnish
5.06869806 Southwest_Finnish
6.49577555 Estonian
7.52932932 Polish_Masuria
8.16005515 East_Finnish
8.80088064 Polish
8.89960111 Kujawy
9.04376581 Podlaskie
9.33952890 Greater_Poland
9.77545907 Belorussian
10.07802560 Russian_average
10.08547966 Polish_Kielce
10.09491456 Sorb_Lusatia
10.15063545 Russian_Kostroma
10.20570429 Russian_Smolensk
10.35235722 Russian_Northern_Dvina
10.63935148 Mazovia
10.66442216 South_Polish
11.07255165 Russian_Kargopol
11.18201681 Belarusian_Minsk
11.78524077 Lower_Silesia
11.83586499 Lithuanian
11.98353036 Ukrainian
11.99742056 Russian_Southwest
12.11874168 Silesian

Target: Southwest_Finnish4
Distance: 1.7461% / 1.74606047 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.3 Finnish
37.9 Southwest_Finnish
13.1 Lower_Silesia
6.9 Estonian
1.8 Karitiana

Nanushka
08-22-2021, 01:10 PM
Distance to: buusra
5.64869897 Avar
5.93771842 Chechen
6.73479770 Tabassaran
6.82267543 Lak
7.23203982 Dargin
8.54088403 Lezgin
10.23274645 Ingush
10.27228310 Kabardin
11.70179046 North_Ossetian
11.89860496 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
12.50078798 Adygei
12.60494744 Balkar
12.95630734 Ossetian
13.52080619 Kumyk
17.26199583 Tajik_Lowland
17.29444419 Tajik_Mountain
19.08875847 Pamiri_Tajikistan
20.12579439 Tajik_Tajikistan
21.32160641 Georgian
22.45314009 Nogay
23.41129642 Afghan_Pashtun
23.81027509 Abhkasian
24.31900286 Afghan_Tadjik
24.47414963 Turkmen
25.71020614 Georgian_imereti

Target: buusra
Distance: 1.0157% / 1.01570091
38.7 Lak
27.4 Dargin
16.1 Kabardin
6.3 French_Basque
4.8 Balochi
3.5 Georgian_imereti
2.0 Ossetian
0.7 Mayan
0.5 Selkup

Target: buusra
Distance: 1.4277% / 1.42767507 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.8 Avar
21.4 Kabardin
5.0 Pamiri_Tajikistan
4.3 Italian_Sardinia
2.0 Dargin
1.2 French_Basque
0.3 Mayan

Terminator98
08-22-2021, 01:26 PM
Without distance:

Target: Terminator
Distance: 2.0736% / 2.07362776
43.0 Latvian
25.1 Greek_Northern-Thrace
15.7 Italian_Sardinia
15.1 Lebanese_Christian
0.9 Ashkenazi
0.2 Yemenite_Jewish

0.25 distance:

Target: Terminator
Distance: 2.3001% / 2.30010029 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
34.5 Latvian
11.9 Italian_Sardinia
6.6 Yemenite_Jewish

Mitryejd
08-22-2021, 06:21 PM
Target: buusra
Distance: 1.4277% / 1.42767507 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.8 Avar
21.4 Kabardin
5.0 Pamiri_Tajikistan
4.3 Italian_Sardinia
2.0 Dargin
1.2 French_Basque
0.3 Mayan


Target: GC5
Distance: 2.1745% / 2.17449244 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.8 Laz
24.2 Turkmen_Iraq
7.9 French_Basque
5.1 Ossetian

Dušan
08-22-2021, 08:24 PM
Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.3224% / 2.32239073 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.3 Moldova_North
11.9 Italian_Sardinia
10.8 Latvian



Excluding Moldovan sample

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.6353% / 2.63525852 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.6 Serb_Bosnia
27.4 Mordovian
12.4 Italian_Sardinia
2.6 Latvian

rothaer
08-22-2021, 08:34 PM
Target: rothaer
Distance: 2.0204% / 2.02038464 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.4 German_East
39.9 Southwest_Finnish
4.7 French_Basque

rothaer
08-22-2021, 08:36 PM
Target: rothaer_wife (Northern German)
Distance: 1.7938% / 1.79379086 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.8 Sweden_Svealand_East
38.3 Norwegian
9.9 Belorussian

MandM
08-22-2021, 08:37 PM
Target: Sister
Distance: 1.8795% / 1.87953002 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.8 Pomak_Bulgaria
19.4 Latvian
9.7 Italian_Sardinia
2.1 Mayan
1.5 Biaka_Pygmy
1.5 NAN_Melanesian

Target: wify
Distance: 1.5916% / 1.59159783 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.6 Serb_Bosnia
24.6 Moldova_North
10.8 Serb_Serbia_West
3.3 Kabardin
2.7 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
2.3 Balochi
0.7 Mayan

rothaer
08-22-2021, 08:38 PM
Three common children of the both aforementioned that I posted:

Target: rothaer_child6
Distance: 0.9710% / 0.97104884 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.7 German_East
27.2 North-Swedish
22.7 North_German
4.4 German

Target: rothaer_child7
Distance: 1.0412% / 1.04118840 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.5 Swedish
21.0 Podlaskie
17.0 North-Swedish
8.6 Sweden_Svealand_East
2.9 German_East

Target: rothaer_child8
Distance: 1.8025% / 1.80249213 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.7 Sweden_Svealand_East
29.5 Southwest_Finnish
11.5 Austrian
9.6 Swiss_Italian
2.1 Yemenite_Jewish
0.6 German_East

Ritz06
08-23-2021, 09:43 AM
Target: Ritz06
Distance: 0.2724% / 0.27240068
28.3 Scottish
15.7 Norwegian
14.6 Kurd_Iran
10.7 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
6.3 Lezgin
5.5 Irish_Munster
4.4 Georgian
3.3 Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.3 Avar
2.1 She
2.0 Greek_Trabzon
1.6 Abhkasian
1.4 Dai
1.0 Greek_Western-Thrace
0.6 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 Laz


Target: Ritz06
Distance: 2.4513% / 2.45125150 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 French_Northeast
32.4 Tabassaran
12.9 Greek_Andros_Island
7.8 Turkmen
2.5 German_West
2.4 Dai

Target: Ritz06
Distance: 4.6385% / 4.63850583 | ADC: 0.5x RC
37.3 German_West
23.1 Greek_Istanbul
19.6 Tabassaran
16.5 Tajik_Mountain
3.5 Swiss_French

frankhammer
08-23-2021, 06:29 PM
Target: frankhammer
Distance: 1.5364% / 1.53639742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.3 French_Northwest
15.3 Kujawy
6.4 French_Basque


Distance to: frankhammer
3.35513040 Dutch_South
4.24633960 French_Northwest
4.53597840 English_Southeast
4.74646184 Flemish
4.83114893 English_Midlands
4.93147037 English
4.94179117 English_Southwest
5.20376787 Dutch
5.26988615 Belgian
5.42454606 Cornish
5.48575428 German_West
5.53419371 English_North
5.54422222 German_Northwest
5.56666866 Afrikaner
5.66128961 German
5.82129711 Welsh
5.85270877 Dutch_Central
6.43525446 Scottish_Northeast
6.62967571 Scottish_North_Highlands
6.64479496 Scottish_East
6.69381804 Orcadian
6.70976900 North_German
7.06033285 Scottish
7.11508960 Irish_Leinster
7.12445086 Dutch_North

alexmegas777
08-24-2021, 10:18 AM
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
7.31598934 Italian_Friuli_VG
8.24618093 Italian_Trentino
8.46743172 Romania_Crisana
8.60075578 Bosniak_Sandzak
8.78130970 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
8.84246006 Italian_Veneto
8.84975706 Swiss_French
9.09315677 Romania_Transylvania
9.33323095 Romania_Oltenia
9.36027243 Montenegrin
9.46416399 Romania_Moldavia_South
9.78777809 Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.94209736 Romania_average
10.12111654 Romania_Banat
10.17529852 French_Provence
10.27574328 Italian_Piedmont
10.28109916 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
10.44129302 Romania_Wallachia
10.54316840 Serb_Serbia_West
10.62978833 Romania_Dobruja
10.64339701 Serb_Herzegovina
10.66086769 Romania_Maramures
10.70391984 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
10.74152224 Bulgaria_Northeastern
10.89201542 Romania_Muntenia

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)
Distance: 1.6770% / 1.67699289 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.3 Swiss_French
33.0 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
20.4 Italian_Piedmont
5.0 Kabardin
1.3 Nogay

Dušan
08-24-2021, 10:43 AM
Without ADC:

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.5711% / 0.57106571
40.8 Latvian
26.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
18.7 Italian_Sardinia
5.7 Lower_Silesia
4.5 Georgian_imereti
2.5 Mari
1.7 Greek_Caucasus
0.1 Papuan

WeirdLookingFellow
08-26-2021, 01:53 PM
Target: FellowGF
Distance: 1.2693% / 1.26931130 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.2 Serb_Serbia_West
35.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
3.4 Bosniak_Sandzak
1.3 Romania_Crisana
0.9 West_Greenlander

Target: Fellow
Distance: 2.7958% / 2.79583790 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.2 Serb_Serbia_Central
28.0 Swiss_Italian
12.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
8.0 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
0.9 North_Amerindian
0.9 Yoruban

cakmir7y
08-27-2021, 06:10 PM
Even more crazy than before

Target: cakmir7y_wife
Distance: 2.0320% / 2.03201744 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.5 Sorb_Lusatia
30.7 Croat_East
11.5 Silesian
8.3 Hungarian_North


Target: cakmir7y
Distance: 1.0634% / 1.06335264 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.1 Czech
38.1 Silesian
10.0 Southwest_Finnish
8.0 Southwest_French
4.8 Saudi

someonenotyou
08-27-2021, 06:55 PM
Target: someonenotyou(hungarian)
Distance: 1.5993% / 1.59928377 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.6 Serb_Serbia_West
19.5 Lower_Silesia
15.5 Swiss_French
14.4 Csángó-Ceangău
11.9 French_Basque
5.1 Kalash

Distance to: someonenotyou(hungarian)
5.78397787 Csángó-Ceangău
6.06398384 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
7.52566941 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.63228013 Hungarian
7.80019231 Croat_West
7.95151558 Hungarian_Alföld
8.16867798 Serb_Serbia_West
8.43950235 Croat
8.53872941 Croat_South
8.82666981 Austrian
8.98509321 Romania_Crisana
8.99706063 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.04393167 Croat_North
9.12794610 Slovenian
9.13919581 Serb_Croatia
9.14438626 Serb_Bosnia
9.26805805 Serb
9.50601915 Romania_Maramures
9.52443174 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
9.89781794 Bosniak
10.05002488 Serb_Serbia_Central
10.23388978 Croat_East
10.25143892 Serb_Herzegovina
10.29869409 Moldova_Centre
10.36870291 Romania_Transylvania

17571imre
08-31-2021, 08:32 PM
Target: Imre
Distance: 0.9403% / 0.94034906 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.2 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
31.1 Croat_West
20.0 Italian_Trentino
12.7 Swiss_German2

pajkosbalna
09-01-2021, 01:35 PM
Target: Pajkos
Distance: 4.0020% / 4.00202308 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.1 Latvian
27.5 Pomak_Bulgaria
13.3 Italian_Sardinia
10.1 Mordovian

Distance to: Pajkos
7.41917111 Moldova_Ukrainian
7.59113957 Ukrainian_Carpathian
8.40353497 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.48584208 Bosniak_Bosnia
9.52084030 Silesian
9.58642269 Ukrainian
9.72904415 Moldova_North
10.43226246 Croat_East
10.58396901 Lower_Silesia
11.38310590 Mazovia
11.38571913 Polish_Kielce
11.45745172 Slovak
11.53088895 South_Polish
11.59796534 Russian_Southwest
11.68356966 Bosniak
11.83678166 Croat
11.87696510 Hungarian_North
12.00960033 Croat_North
12.46475030 Hungarian_Alföld
12.47914661 Croat_South
12.72703815 Greater_Poland
12.79957421 Moldova_Centre
12.80615477 Serb_Bosnia
12.82588399 Moldova_average
12.98099380 Polish

InfamousAngel99
09-01-2021, 10:25 PM
Ancestry Kit:
Distance to: Inf99Ancestry
2.87186351 Flemish
2.92646544 Dutch_South
3.00765690 German_West
3.43741182 Belgian
3.73029489 German
4.20904977 Afrikaner
5.24907611 German_South
5.25377007 French_Northwest
5.30609084 English_Southeast
5.74968695 French_Northeast
5.88697715 English_Midlands
6.07536830 English
6.27773048 Dutch
6.27806499 German_Northwest
6.27953820 English_Southwest
6.33818586 French_Alsace
6.50059228 Pennsylvania_Dutch
6.57020548 Cornish
6.86557354 North_German
6.95744206 English_North
7.07100417 Dutch_Central
7.09001410 Swiss_German2
7.37623210 Welsh
7.53684284 Swiss_German
8.12359526 Scottish_East

Target: Inf99Ancestry
Distance: 1.3608% / 1.36081370 | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.0 German
11.3 Flemish
9.6 Welsh
7.1 French_Basque

23andMe Kit:
Distance to: Inf9923andMe
2.63469163 Flemish
2.69699833 Dutch_South
3.29557279 Belgian
3.48643084 German_West
4.32787477 French_Northwest
4.43794998 English_Southeast
4.91553659 Afrikaner
4.97583159 English_Midlands
4.99236417 German
5.15588014 English
5.28770271 English_Southwest
5.48074812 Cornish
5.74131518 Dutch
5.84464712 French_Northeast
5.86716286 German_South
6.07893083 English_North
6.19373070 German_Northwest
6.43020995 Welsh
6.53500574 Dutch_Central
6.76528639 Pennsylvania_Dutch
7.03749956 French_Alsace
7.09745729 North_German
7.22454151 Scottish_East
7.29333943 Scottish_Northeast
7.35923230 Scottish_North_Highlands

Target: Inf9923andMe
Distance: 1.7853% / 1.78532471 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.3 German
24.0 Cornish
15.9 Flemish
6.8 French_Basque

Polak
09-01-2021, 10:31 PM
Distance to: Polak
4.41573323 Podlaskie
5.35520308 Belorussian
5.47329882 Greater_Poland
5.76013021 Polish_Kielce
5.95423379 Polish
5.98429612 Mazovia
6.23129200 Polish_Masuria
6.78518239 Belarusian_Minsk
6.88870089 Russian_Smolensk
6.90196349 Kujawy
7.16716122 Ukrainian
7.17918519 Sorb_Lusatia
7.43378100 South_Polish
7.43737185 Silesian
7.99825606 Russian_Southwest
8.99852766 Estonian
9.26921787 Russian_average
9.96951854 Lower_Silesia
9.98395713 Moldova_Ukrainian
10.02294867 Lithuanian
10.31565800 Russian_Kostroma
10.48065361 Ukrainian_Galicia
10.54520744 Finnish
11.27317613 Southwest_Finnish
11.63753410 Czech

Target: Polak
Distance: 3.5734% / 3.57341227
58.2 Belorussian
17.4 Latvian
10.3 Sorb_Lusatia
7.1 Swiss_Italian
5.5 Swedish
1.3 Dai
0.2 Yoruban

de Burgh II
09-11-2021, 03:30 PM
Target: Burgh
Distance: 0.6680% / 0.66800123 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.2 Irish_Leinster
15.1 Spanish_Aragon
1.0 Georgian_imereti
0.9 French_Basque
0.8 Irish_Ulster

Distance to: Burgh
0.77791970 81.60% Irish + 18.40% Spanish_Andalucia
0.80299191 80.00% Irish + 20.00% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.82833128 78.40% Irish_Connacht + 21.60% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.84035497 82.80% Irish_Leinster + 17.20% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.84756988 79.80% Irish + 20.20% Spanish
0.87274234 32.00% French + 68.00% Irish_Ulster
0.87532641 84.20% Irish_Leinster + 15.80% Spanish_Andalucia
0.88123096 80.00% Irish_Connacht + 20.00% Spanish_Andalucia
0.88282676 78.20% Irish_Connacht + 21.80% Spanish
0.88409141 80.20% Irish + 19.80% Spanish_Valencia
0.88940714 77.60% Irish + 22.40% Spanish_Cataluna
0.90806828 90.00% Irish_Munster + 10.00% Italian_Sardinia
0.91919768 83.20% Irish_Leinster + 16.80% Spanish_Aragon
0.91972586 78.60% Irish_Connacht + 21.40% Spanish_Valencia
0.93594014 24.20% French_South + 75.80% Irish
0.94350768 75.80% Irish_Connacht + 24.20% Spanish_Cataluna
0.95016212 80.80% Irish_Munster + 19.20% Spanish_Andalucia
0.96298112 31.60% French + 68.40% Irish_Munster
0.96303675 25.20% French_South + 74.80% Irish_Munster
0.97958632 82.80% Irish_Leinster + 17.20% Spanish
0.98081362 76.20% Irish_Ulster + 23.80% Spanish_Cataluna
0.99975746 25.60% French_South + 74.40% Irish_Ulster
1.02726727 82.20% Scottish + 17.80% Spanish_Aragon
1.03170699 76.60% Irish_Munster + 23.40% Spanish_Cataluna
1.03603168 78.60% Irish_Connacht + 21.40% Spanish_Murcia

Distance to: Burgh
2.67368659 French_Northwest
3.37296605 English_Southwest
3.43760091 Cornish
3.72997319 Welsh
3.85323241 English_Midlands
3.87618369 English
4.01411260 English_Southeast
4.24004717 Scottish_North_Highlands
4.43209883 Scottish_East
4.50975609 Irish_Leinster
4.51168483 English_North
4.86587094 Scottish
4.90598614 Scottish_Northeast
4.94657457 Scottish_Southwest
5.41750865 Irish
5.68016725 Dutch_South
5.72546941 Orcadian
5.74237756 Irish_Munster
5.83958046 Irish_Ulster
5.98250784 Irish_Connacht
5.99764120 West_Scottish
6.10824852 Flemish
6.14320763 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
6.34914167 Dutch
6.50878637 Belgian

hazmatnik
09-12-2021, 12:50 AM
Target: Hazmatnik
Distance: 6.1436% / 6.14362557 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.0 Pomak_Greece
35.4 Serb_Serbia_Central
12.6 Latvian

Target: Hazmatnik
Distance: 4.3290% / 4.32900093 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.9 Greek_Northern-Thrace
27.6 Latvian
13.1 Serb_Serbia_Central
7.4 Yemenite_Jewish


Target: Hazmatnik
Distance: 2.9814% / 2.98138248
39.2 Latvian
35.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.9 Italian_Sardinia
8.3 Yemenite_Jewish
2.6 Moldova_Jewish
2.1 Lebanese_Christian
1.6 Ashkenazi

celticdragongod
09-12-2021, 02:05 AM
Distance to: CDG
2.25290923 Dutch
2.27874966 English_North
2.32542469 Dutch_Central
2.37903342 Orcadian
2.47301435 Dutch_North
2.63922337 Scottish_Northeast
2.87805490 German_Northwest
2.89639431 Scottish_East
2.90044824 English
2.93948975 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
2.98181153 English_Midlands
3.04415834 Scottish
3.06501223 Welsh
3.12998403 Scottish_Southwest
3.24530430 Icelandic
3.24598213 Scottish_North_Highlands
3.33833791 English_Southwest
3.33965567 English_Southeast
3.34928351 Cornish
3.67266933 Irish_Leinster
4.19564059 Irish_Connacht
4.21359704 Denmark
4.21753482 Irish
4.31637579 West_Scottish
4.32268435 North_German

Target: CDG
Distance: 0.7918% / 0.79179297
42.2 Scottish_Southwest
25.2 Denmark
21.2 Orcadian
4.2 Irish_Munster
3.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace
2.6 North-Swedish
0.9 Polish_Lower_Silesia

odarna
09-30-2021, 03:18 PM
Target: Odarna
Distance: 3.7064% / 3.70644428 | ADC: 0.25x RC

33.6 Polish_Podlaskie
32.4 Norwegian
25.2 Belorussian
8.8 Lebanese_Druze

Scandal
10-10-2021, 11:49 AM
Target: Universe
Distance: 3.0978% / 3.09782680 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.1 Polish_Podlaskie
28.6 Serb_Serbia_Central
9.5 Polish_Silesia
4.4 Hungarian_North
4.4 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: Universe
Distance: 2.9438% / 2.94383928 | R2P
82.1 Polish_Podlaskie
17.9 Italian_Jewish

Target: Universe
Distance: 2.4058% / 2.40576069 | R3P
71.2 Belorussian
15.1 Moldova_Jewish
13.7 Swiss_Italian

oszkar07
10-10-2021, 12:09 PM
Target: OSZK
Distance: 1.1392% / 1.13924066 | R5P
39.3 Norwegian
25.6 Belorussian
15.0 Southwest_French
14.3 Croat_East
5.8 Saudi


Distance to: OSZK
3.72317069 Austrian
5.04733593 German_East
7.00882301 German
7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.14288647 Czech
8.25083632 Slovenian
8.82207459 Hungarian
9.51402123 Croat_North
9.59022419 Hungarian_North
9.87401134 Slovak
9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
10.03557173 French_Alsace
10.11848309 German_South
10.13897924 German_West
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.10263933 Afrikaner
11.34722874 North_German
11.69236931 Croat
11.71474712 Dutch_South
11.72224381 Swiss_German2
11.72239310 Croat_West
11.80086014 Belgian
11.80086014 Flemish
11.95351831 German_Northwest
12.05339786 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
12.05646714 Pennsylvania_Dutch
12.07142494 Sorb_Lusatia
12.18825254 Csángó-Ceangău
12.48244768 Sweden_Svealand_East
12.55726085 Swedish
12.70418829 French_Northeast
13.14483929 Croat_East
13.26481813 Swiss_French
13.28996614 Dutch
13.67502102 Dutch_Central
13.72289692 North-Swedish
13.85949133 Ukrainian_Galicia
13.86021284 South_Polish
13.93004666 Croat_South
13.94702477 Sweden_Svealand_West
14.02068115 Ukrainian_Carpathian
14.04711002 English_Southeast
14.28296188 Dutch_North
14.32999302 Bosniak_Bosnia
14.55567587 Sweden_Götaland

Dušan
10-10-2021, 12:43 PM
R2P



Nice idea with reduced populations.


Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.3869% / 1.38690217 | R4P
55.0 Belarusian_Minsk
21.4 Italian_Sardinia
12.4 Greek_Caucasus
11.2 Mordovian


Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.1924% / 1.19237138 | R5P
45.7 Belarusian_Minsk
18.7 Italian_Sardinia
15.5 Mordovian
12.1 Greek_Northern-Thrace
8.0 Greek_Caucasus

Jana
10-10-2021, 01:38 PM
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 2.6581% / 2.65810128 | R2P
90.9 Slovenian
9.1 North_Ossetian

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 2.2017% / 2.20168305 | R3P
51.4 Polish_Silesia
36.8 Swiss_French
11.8 North_Ossetian

Target: Stears
Distance: 1.1590% / 1.15901267 | R2P
88.6 Hungarian
11.4 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan

Target: Stears
Distance: 0.8636% / 0.86360831 | R3P
85.0 Hungarian
11.6 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
3.4 Russian_Northern_Dvina

RenaRyuguu
10-10-2021, 02:12 PM
Target: Emma
Distance: 2.7770% / 2.77698568 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.2 Croat_West
30.3 Swiss_Italian
24.5 Greek_Northern-Thrace

RenaRyuguu
10-10-2021, 02:34 PM
I forgot to do the distance ones

Target: Emma
Distance: 3.6143% / 3.61426077 | R2P
68.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
31.8 Swedish

Target: Emma
Distance: 2.3968% / 2.39675218 | R3P
39.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace
35.4 Swiss_Italian
24.9 Sorb_Lusatia

MandM
10-10-2021, 02:44 PM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.1415% / 1.14148770 | R3P
66.8 Bulgaria_Southeastern
21.5 Mordovian
11.7 Italian_Sardinia

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.1599% / 2.15993797 | R2P
94.1 Moldova_South
5.9 Italian_Sardinia

Videx
10-15-2021, 05:54 PM
Target: Videx
Distance: 2.1325% / 2.13246428 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.1 Hungarian_North
35.9 Austrian
19.3 North-Swedish
8.7 Lezgin

Grace O'Malley
10-18-2021, 10:44 AM
Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9009% / 1.90091955
69.6 Icelandic
19.6 West_Scottish
9.3 Irish_Ulster
1.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9088% / 1.90880770 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.1 Icelandic
24.7 Irish_Ulster
0.9 Dargin
0.3 Karitiana

With Icelandic removed.


Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 1.9875% / 1.98746505
47.1 Norwegian
35.6 West_Scottish
14.8 Irish_Ulster
2.3 Dargin
0.2 Karitiana

Target: Grace(irish)
Distance: 2.0010% / 2.00096682 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.3 Norwegian
40.5 West_Scottish
10.7 Irish_Ulster
2.5 Dargin

These calculators can't distinguish between certain populations. What's the issue here? They are only calculators after all and they aren't looking at your dna like a geneticist.

Distance to: Grace(irish)
2.37583669 Icelandic
3.03324908 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.90000000 Irish_Connacht
3.92126255 Scottish
3.97353747 Dutch_North
3.99221743 Scottish_Southwest
4.02823783 West_Scottish
4.04991358 Norwegian
4.11541006 Irish
4.25025882 Irish_Munster
4.25540832 Scottish_Northeast
4.25605451 Orcadian
4.35045975 Scottish_East
4.41269759 Irish_Leinster
4.50302121 Scottish_North_Highlands
4.52268725 Irish_Ulster
4.67891013 Denmark
4.67923071 Dutch_Central
4.86428823 Norway_South_Central
4.90855376 English_North
5.16241223 Welsh
5.19384251 Dutch
5.25249465 Sweden_Götaland
5.75115641 German_Northwest
5.81993127 English

My K13 similarity map done by ph2ter.

https://i.imgur.com/WHnl5bG.png

17571imre
10-18-2021, 10:52 AM
Target: Imre
Distance: 1.3722% / 1.37215932 | R2P
57.5 Hungarian_North
42.5 Italian_Veneto

Target: Imre
Distance: 0.8766% / 0.87661659 | R3P
56.9 Croat_West
33.2 Italian_Veneto
9.9 North-Swedish

Target: Imre
Distance: 0.4187% / 0.41873341 | R4P
34.6 Hungarian_North
34.3 Italian_Veneto
16.6 Greek_Northern-Thrace
14.5 North-Swedish

noricum
10-18-2021, 12:05 PM
Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 1.2506% / 1.25057131
35.6 Sorb_Lusatia
27.5 Swiss_Italian
27.4 Polish_Podlaskie
6.9 Swedish
1.8 Moldova_Jewish
0.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace

Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 1.6414% / 1.64140098 | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.7 Sorb_Lusatia
27.1 Swiss_Italian
0.2 Swedish

Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 3.1681% / 3.16809663 | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.6 Hungarian_North
17.5 Swedish
15.9 Slovenian

Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 3.9237% / 3.92368116 | ADC: 1x RC
68.3 Slovenian
27.4 German_East
4.3 Czech

Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 4.4446% / 4.44460347 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Slovenian

SouthDutch7991
10-18-2021, 07:21 PM
Just realised i fucked up my first post. Actually, it has me wondering if the new k13 spreadsheet is less accurate than before. Here are both of my previous results:

OLD


<tbody>
Target: southANCESTRYk13
Distance: 1.2989% / 1.29890243 | ADC: 0.25x RC




64.9
Southwest_English






22.2
East_German






11.6
Southwest_French






1.3
Yoruban



</tbody>




<tbody>
Target: southFTDNAk13
Distance: 1.3547% / 1.35470326 | ADC: 0.25x RC




53.0
Southeast_English






18.7
South_Dutch






16.4
Southwest_French






3.9
La_Brana-1






3.9
Southwest_Finnish






3.0
East_German






1.1
Yoruban



</tbody>


The Ancestry results match up well with my known ancestry, in fact it's amazingly close. I should be mostly southwest English with some German, mostly Southern and Eastern Germans that settled appalachia from my dads mom, with a minority of my ancestry being assorted Europeans from western Europe with a southern shift. The FTDNA results also match up fairly well, well enough that I can at least see the regions I'd expect making up more or less of what they should. South_Dutch could be a proxy for Germanic DNA mixed with other europeans. Now, here are my updated results. No familiar regions, which I guess can be attributed to centuries of back and forth mixing between many different German and British populations, but it's useless from a practical perspective, tells me nothing about my ancestry.

UPDATED


<tbody>
Target: southANCESTRYk13
Distance: 1.3495% / 1.34946976 | ADC: 0.25x RC




78.6
French_Northwest






11.2
Polish_Masuria






9.2
French_Basque






1.0
Yoruban



</tbody>




<tbody>
Target: southFTDNAk13
Distance: 1.4640% / 1.46404277 | ADC: 0.25x RC




47.6
Dutch_South






20.4
Swedish






16.2
Southwest_French






14.8
Cornish






1.0
Yoruban



</tbody>

Nurzat
10-18-2021, 07:42 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.5730% / 1.57295516 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Serb_Serbia_West
21.1 Polish_Lower_Silesia
12.9 Csángó-Ceangău
6.7 Balkar
0.5 Kalash


then removed ex-Yugo, Bulgarian, Albanian and from Romania/Moldova kept Romania_Moldova_South:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.4170% / 1.41702431 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Polish_Lower_Silesia
29.7 Romania_Moldavia_South
21.6 Hungarian_Alföld
9.3 Balkar
5.6 Italian_Sardinia

Ion Basescul
10-18-2021, 07:56 PM
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.9291% / 0.92907422 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Romania_Moldavia_North
43.2 Csángó-Ceangău
6.8 Moldova_North
1.3 Nogay
1.3 Xibo

-Csángó-Ceangău
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.8606% / 0.86062960 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.9 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
27.1 Moldova_North
23.7 Serb_Serbia_West
2.7 Nogay
1.6 Xibo

-Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.8968% / 0.89675703 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.5 Serb_Serbia_West
26.1 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
20.8 Romania_Moldavia_North
8.4 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Kazakh

-Serb_Serbia_West
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 0.8002% / 0.80022536 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.6 Romania_Moldavia_North
36.0 Moldova_North
14.1 Swiss_French
4.0 Kazakh
0.3 Nogay

-Swiss_French
Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 1.0043% / 1.00429151 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.8 Romania_Moldavia_North
13.9 Austrian
10.4 Moldova_North
3.8 Kazakh
1.1 Nogay

Oh well, I can't win.

Dušan
10-18-2021, 08:03 PM
Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.3224% / 2.32239073 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.3 Moldova_North
11.9 Italian_Sardinia
10.8 Latvian


- Moldova_North (sorry :p)

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.3364% / 2.33644932 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.4 Moldova_average
15.6 Mordovian
13.5 Italian_Sardinia
11.5 Latvian



- Moldova_average (sorry :p)

Target: Dušan
Distance: 3.1862% / 3.18619123 | ADC: 0.25x
77.0 Serb_Bosnia
17.3 Mordovian
5.6 Italian_Sardinia
0.1 Latvian


Target: Dušan
Distance: 4.1939% / 4.19387995 | ADC: 0.5x
94.1 Serb_Bosnia
4.8 Mordovian
1.1 Polish_Silesia

Nurzat
10-19-2021, 05:38 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.5730% / 1.57295516 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Serb_Serbia_West
21.1 Polish_Lower_Silesia
12.9 Csángó-Ceangău
6.7 Balkar
0.5 Kalash


then removed ex-Yugo, Bulgarian, Albanian and from Romania/Moldova kept Romania_Moldova_South:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.4170% / 1.41702431 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Polish_Lower_Silesia
29.7 Romania_Moldavia_South
21.6 Hungarian_Alföld
9.3 Balkar
5.6 Italian_Sardinia


removed all Polish as well and got a surprisingly accurate one (for first two components), though I don't know what to make of that Basque, which if I remove gets to Sardinian, and there's some excess North Caucasian that gets picked as well:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.9678% / 1.96777702 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
21.0 Romania_Moldavia_South
11.0 Balkar
7.0 French_Basque

Gergő Marosvári
10-19-2021, 05:58 PM
Inspired by Nurzat, i decided to "re-run" our results. (with trying to delete some populations)
Our results are much better than before!!!

I deleted the Polish Silesian reference in my results.

Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.5613% / 2.56127308 | ADC: 0.25x
59.4 Hungarian_North
25.1 Ukrainian_Carpathian
13.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
1.6 Chamar
0.8 Italian_Sardinia
0.1 Yoruban

For my grandmother, i deleted the Czechs. Also perfect!!!

Target: Ilona
Distance: 2.0258% / 2.02584208 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Hungarian_North
19.4 Swedish
14.4 Sorb_Lusatia
1.3 Austrian
1.1 Yemenite_Jewish

While for my mother, i deleted the Moldova Ukrainian and Bosnian (Bosnia) references.

Target: Katalin
Distance: 1.3611% / 1.36113736 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.6 Hungarian_North
22.7 Russian_Southwest
15.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace

Damiăo de Góis
10-19-2021, 07:48 PM
Target: Damiao(Portuguese)
Distance: 0.7003% / 0.70030984 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.3 Spanish_Cataluna
24.0 Portuguese
15.4 Spanish_Andalucia
9.0 French_Provence
1.7 Georgian_imereti
1.6 Mbuti_Pygmy
0.5 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.5 Papuan

Distance to: Damiao(Portuguese)
2.63556446 Portuguese
3.54823900 Spanish_Extremadura
4.00403546 Spanish_Cataluna
4.01922878 Spanish_Murcia
4.23276505 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
4.53425848 Spanish
4.58912846 Spanish_Galicia
4.79649872 Spanish_Valencia
5.33152886 Spanish_Andalucia
5.59234298 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.31288365 Swiss-Italian2
6.45104643 French_South
7.00690374 Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.13349143 French_Provence
7.24648880 Spanish_Cantabria
7.58702181 Swiss_Italian
8.08747798 Italian_Piedmont
8.81118607 Spanish_Aragon
9.13535987 French
9.39987766 Italian_Lombardy
9.40178175 Italian_Trentino
9.64332412 Italian_Veneto
9.72881288 Southwest_French
10.48359671 French_Central
11.34684538 Italian_Friuli_VG

Lemminkäinen
10-20-2021, 08:31 AM
I got this from ph2ter. My Voronezh Russian cousins hello, but why Voronezh and Moscow. Are they cool descendants of Gengish Khan? :D Have you explanation why my result in South Finland/Estonia is connected to European side of the Southeast Russia, but not to Finno-Ugric Volga ? Not that I have doubts I have got similar results before.

https://i.ibb.co/wKV6pnd/Mm-FST-K13-3-0.png

Btw, I got Italian from companies providing ancestry tests

Komintasavalta
10-20-2021, 09:19 AM
I got this from ph2ter. My Voronezh Russian cousins hello, but why Voronezh and Moscow. Are they cool descendants of Gengish Khan? :D Have you explanation why my result in South Finland/Estonia is connected to European side of the Southeast Russia, but not to Finno-Ugric Volga ? Not that I have doubts I have got similar results before.

You're too wog for the VUR. When I use the same method of multiplying by MDS of FST that I think ph2ter used, you're also closer to Russian users than to Finnish users:


> k13=read.csv("https://pastebin.com/raw/RrxXYCp1",r=1)
> fst=as.matrix(as.dist(read.csv(text=",,,,,,,,,,,,
19,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,36,,,,,,,,,,,
26,32,36,,,,,,,,,,
26,35,28,21,,,,,,,,,
52,62,50,48,39,,,,,,,,
64,65,76,57,60,82,,,,,,,
114,114,122,110,111,127,76,,,,,,
111,111,123,109,112,130,83,56,,,,,
138,137,154,138,144,161,120,113,105,,,,
179,181,187,177,176,191,146,166,177,217,,,
122,127,124,116,108,121,113,145,151,185,203,,
146,150,150,140,135,141,133,164,170,204,220,41,",h=F)))
> fst=fst/mean(fst)
> mult=as.matrix(k13)%*%cmdscale(fst,ncol(fst)-1)
> s=sort(as.matrix(dist(mult))[,"Lemminkainen(Finn)"])
> cat(head(paste(sprintf("%.3f",s),names(s)),50),sep="\n")
0.000 Lemminkainen(Finn)
1.338 Southwest_Finnish
1.729 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother1(Russian)
1.755 Russian_average
1.781 Mary(Russian)
2.001 Estonian
2.080 Silentkiller(Russian)
2.203 North-Swedish
2.224 Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
2.359 Pipa(Russian)
2.430 Not_a_Cop(Russian)
2.491 Russian_Kostroma
2.529 Vyacheslav(Russian)
2.544 Finnish
2.723 Blondbeast(Russian)
2.943 Mazik_grandpa(Swede)
2.996 Stanislav(Russian-Pole)
2.999 Krivich(Russian)
3.227 valera27(Russian)
3.266 Russian_Kargopol
3.317 Vari(Estonian)
3.320 LecomtsevAlexander(Russian)
3.372 Humanophage(Russian)
3.388 Mordovian
3.395 Mazik(Swede)
3.460 Not_a_Cop_Grandfather2(Russian)
3.679 Leto_Mom(Russian)
3.705 I.vet(Russian)
3.786 Levono(Swede)
3.934 Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
3.958 Yamnaya(Russian_ź_Bashkir)
4.050 Lemgrant(Ukrainian)
4.072 Drogin(Norwegian-Finn)
4.186 Sippola(Finn)
4.226 Aila(Finn)
4.276 Norka(Russian-Tatar)
4.296 Russian_Southwest
4.320 Russian_Northern_Dvina
4.424 East_Finnish
4.424 Michal(Pole)
4.753 Lemgrant_mother(Ukrainian)
4.757 Schwop(Swede)
4.768 Jusarius(Finn)
4.812 Halge(Swede)
4.827 Julkka(Finn)
4.827 Daos777(Ukrainian-Moldovan-Pole)
4.896 Beo242(Russian-German)
4.899 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother2(Russian-Pole)
4.928 rurov0(Russian)
4.940 Sweden_Svealand_East

Does the Southwest_Finnish average consist of actual Southwestern Finns, or does it just include some of the most western-shifted Finnish samples? It seems way too western.

Lemminkäinen
10-20-2021, 10:05 AM
You're too wog for the VUR. When I use the same method of multiplying by MDS of FST that I think ph2ter used, you're also closer to Russian users than to Finnish users:


> k13=read.csv("https://pastebin.com/raw/RrxXYCp1",r=1)
> fst=as.matrix(as.dist(read.csv(text=",,,,,,,,,,,,
19,,,,,,,,,,,,
28,36,,,,,,,,,,,
26,32,36,,,,,,,,,,
26,35,28,21,,,,,,,,,
52,62,50,48,39,,,,,,,,
64,65,76,57,60,82,,,,,,,
114,114,122,110,111,127,76,,,,,,
111,111,123,109,112,130,83,56,,,,,
138,137,154,138,144,161,120,113,105,,,,
179,181,187,177,176,191,146,166,177,217,,,
122,127,124,116,108,121,113,145,151,185,203,,
146,150,150,140,135,141,133,164,170,204,220,41,",h=F)))
> fst=fst/mean(fst)
> mult=as.matrix(k13)%*%cmdscale(fst,ncol(fst)-1)
> s=sort(as.matrix(dist(mult))[,"Lemminkainen(Finn)"])
> cat(head(paste(sprintf("%.3f",s),names(s)),50),sep="\n")
0.000 Lemminkainen(Finn)
1.338 Southwest_Finnish
1.729 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother1(Russian)
1.755 Russian_average
1.781 Mary(Russian)
2.001 Estonian
2.080 Silentkiller(Russian)
2.203 North-Swedish
2.224 Leto(Russian-Belorussian)
2.359 Pipa(Russian)
2.430 Not_a_Cop(Russian)
2.491 Russian_Kostroma
2.529 Vyacheslav(Russian)
2.544 Finnish
2.723 Blondbeast(Russian)
2.943 Mazik_grandpa(Swede)
2.996 Stanislav(Russian-Pole)
2.999 Krivich(Russian)
3.227 valera27(Russian)
3.266 Russian_Kargopol
3.317 Vari(Estonian)
3.320 LecomtsevAlexander(Russian)
3.372 Humanophage(Russian)
3.388 Mordovian
3.395 Mazik(Swede)
3.460 Not_a_Cop_Grandfather2(Russian)
3.679 Leto_Mom(Russian)
3.705 I.vet(Russian)
3.786 Levono(Swede)
3.934 Leto_Dad(Belorussian)
3.958 Yamnaya(Russian_ź_Bashkir)
4.050 Lemgrant(Ukrainian)
4.072 Drogin(Norwegian-Finn)
4.186 Sippola(Finn)
4.226 Aila(Finn)
4.276 Norka(Russian-Tatar)
4.296 Russian_Southwest
4.320 Russian_Northern_Dvina
4.424 East_Finnish
4.424 Michal(Pole)
4.753 Lemgrant_mother(Ukrainian)
4.757 Schwop(Swede)
4.768 Jusarius(Finn)
4.812 Halge(Swede)
4.827 Julkka(Finn)
4.827 Daos777(Ukrainian-Moldovan-Pole)
4.896 Beo242(Russian-German)
4.899 Not_a_Cop_Grandmother2(Russian-Pole)
4.928 rurov0(Russian)
4.940 Sweden_Svealand_East

Does the Southwest_Finnish average consist of actual Southwestern Finns, or does it just include some of the most western-shifted Finnish samples? It seems way too western.

This likely proves that the Siberian admixture plays a big role in our results. Not alone of course, but in case results are in other aspects similar. Another difference comes from the deep genetic trench in Latvia and Lithuania. Geneticist should start to section genetic ancestry, locate sections and compose the ancestry by weighting those section to avoid wide genome admixture errors.

Leto
10-21-2021, 04:43 PM
You're too wog for the VUR. When I use the same method of multiplying by MDS of FST that I think ph2ter used, you're also closer to Russian users than to Finnish users:

How so? Your definition of wog must be entirely your own because as far as I know Finns have the least amount of Southern Caucasoid in Europe and in the Volga-Ural region most people are Russians followed by Tatars. The Tatars have a lot more West Asian as well as more Southern Mongoloid type admixture (South Siberian/Mongolian) than the Finns. Overall, the Russian Uralics are swarthier and less blonde than the Finns of Finland (or Scandinavians in general).
See my brand new Komi and Udmurt averages for K13.