Some SSA populations around/close to the Sahara desert might have Caucasoid admixture in it

[Cernunnos]

I was checking transitional populations who live in the saharan african desert and some of them have a surprisingly caucasoid tendency, like the Fulani.

Target: Fulani
Distance: 1.4504% / 0.01450431
54.2 Yoruba
22.2 MAR_EN
14.8 TUR_Barcin_N
8.8 KEN_Pastoral_N

Target: Fulani
Distance: 3.3758% / 0.03375792
53.4 Yoruba
36.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
10.6 Somali

Fulanis might account 50 million and they live mostly in West Africa.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah even in Nigeria not everyone looks wholesale Bantu.

[Cernunnos]

Yeah even in Nigeria not everyone looks wholesale Bantu.

Some subsaharan africans always looked more brown/dark brown then just black and I thought that was normal it might be a natural variation between them but maybe it's Caucasoid influence....

[Tooting Carmen]

Some subsaharan africans always looked more brown/dark brown then just black and I thought that was normal it might be a natural variation between them but maybe it's Caucasoid influence....

Though that said, it's extremely unlikely you'll find one like Malcolm X unless they have a recent European or MENA ancestor. (As an aside, it is an open secret that the most influential and well-regarded Aframs are disproportionately lighter-skinned).

[XenophobicPrussian]

Even Yoruba have Caucasoid admixture(although not as much as some people on the forum will tell you, those people don't know what Iberomaurasian actually is). Kenya neolithic pastoral definitely has a lot.

You might wanna put Natufian/some BA Levantine pops in the model as well, just so people don't get confused and think Fulani actually have that much Barcin_N.

[Cernunnos]

Though that said, it's extremely unlikely you'll find one like Malcolm X unless they have a recent European or MENA ancestor. (As an aside, it is an open secret that the most influential and well-regarded Aframs are disproportionately lighter-skinned).

Malcolm X had a recent European ancestor (Scots-Irish or Irish something like that).

[Tooting Carmen]

Malcolm X had a recent European ancestor (Scots-Irish or Irish something like that).

Well Aframs are often quite light-skinned even without recent identifiable European ancestors - they are the living embodiment of the sheer hypocrisy of the US' former attitudes towards miscegenation.

[Jased]

Seems every population worldwide has some Caucasoid ancestry first Amerindians now Bantus, what's next Han Chinese too?

[Cernunnos]

Even Yoruba have Caucasoid admixture(although not as much as some people on the forum will tell you, those people don't know what Iberomaurasian actually is). Kenya neolithic pastoral definitely has a lot.

You might wanna put Natufian/some BA Levantine pops in the model as well, just so people don't get confused and think Fulani actually have that much Barcin_N.

I did included Natufian in it.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/785180563715784726/879167822926864394/unknown.png?width=1025&height=242

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/785180563715784726/879168009309126677/unknown.png

MAR_EN is ancient Maroccan which I think can be modeled as 1/3 SSA and 2/3 Natufian or smtg like that.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Though that said, it's extremely unlikely you'll find one like Malcolm X unless they have a recent European or MENA ancestor. (As an aside, it is an open secret that the most influential and well-regarded Aframs are disproportionately lighter-skinned).
Are you sure about the recent European or MENA ancestor claim? I see too many Yorubas who look like the pair of 2 ladies in the middle to blame it on British colonists. I wonder how common it was, I can think of mixed-race colonial Caribbean people(Bob Marley for one) but not really Africans other than a few in the Portuguese colonies and in South Africa.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gADuiujrvbs/maxresdefault.jpg

Also, the claim should be the South-West African coast and the Congo basin, not "Sub-Saharan Africa". You can get lighter people in parts of a place even in Rwanda(let alone places like Kenya, the Sahel, Tanzania, etc). The Tutsi president and his daughter don't have a recent MENA ancestor, their MENA ancestors are very ancient.

https://static.euronews.com/articles/1158821/900x506_1158821.jpg?1595238138

[XenophobicPrussian]

I did included Natufian in it.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/785180563715784726/879167822926864394/unknown.png?width=1025&height=242

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/785180563715784726/879168009309126677/unknown.png

MAR_EN is ancient Maroccan which I think can be modeled as 1/3 SSA and 2/3 Natufian or smtg like that.
Interesting, this means there was not only a migration of Iberomaurasians south but of post-Neolithic North Africans(who had high EEF from Iberia) to the region. I believe Ethiopians also score minor EEF(outside of their Natufian/etc), from their recent Jewish ancestry.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Seems every population worldwide has some Caucasoid ancestry first Amerindians now Bantus, what's next Han Chinese too?
Yes, Han Chinese have very minor steppe ancestry, especially in the North. Some northern Chinese groups have extra ANE admixture too which is majority Caucasoid. It's very minor though, they are still like 95-98%+ East Eurasian. Ami/Ayatal Taiwanese aboriginals have none though. South-East Asians have Caucasoid admixture from a different source, Indians(how do you think Hinduism spread to SE Asia?).

[Tooting Carmen]

Are you sure about the recent European or MENA ancestor claim? I see too many Yorubas who look like the pair of 2 ladies in the middle to blame it on British colonists. I wonder how common it was, I can think of mixed-race colonial Caribbean people(Bob Marley for one) but not really Africans other than a few in the Portuguese colonies and in South Africa.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gADuiujrvbs/maxresdefault.jpg

Also, the claim should be the South-West African coast and the Congo basin, not "Sub-Saharan Africa". You can get lighter people in parts of a place even in Rwanda(let alone places like Kenya, the Sahel, Tanzania, etc). The Tutsi president and his daughter don't have a recent MENA ancestor, their MENA ancestors are very ancient.

https://static.euronews.com/articles/1158821/900x506_1158821.jpg?1595238138

Not very common in colonial times, and I am sure as you say most of that Caucasoid admixture is ancient, but even so (contrary to received wisdom) Blacks always were and to an extent still are the biggest race-mixers with Whites (and before them with Arabs).

[Tooting Carmen]

Yes, Han Chinese have very minor steppe ancestry, especially in the North. Some northern Chinese groups have extra ANE admixture too which is majority Caucasoid. It's very minor though, they are still like 95-98%+ East Eurasian. Ami/Ayatal Taiwanese aboriginals have none though. South-East Asians have Caucasoid admixture from a different source, Indians(how do you think Hinduism spread to SE Asia?).

Still, I bet that Slavs and Scandinavians have more Uralic/Mongoloid admixture than the opposite.

[Cernunnos]

Not very common in colonial times, and I am sure as you say most of that Caucasoid admixture is ancient, but even so (contrary to received wisdom) Blacks always were and to an extent still are the biggest race-mixers with Whites (and before them with Arabs).

Arabs (the muslim) don't let their women mix with non muslims. Many blacks in Europe otherwise are mostly Christian (in Portugal I will say most of them are Christian and/or irreligious only the Guineans can be muslim or mozambicans but they are not the most common african ancestries in here) or irreligious and open to intermarriage.

Some arabs tho, might be already secular, msspf seemed like one of them.

[Tooting Carmen]

Arabs (the muslim) don't let their women mix with non muslims. Many blacks in Europe otherwise are mostly Christian (in Portugal I will say most of them are Christian and/or irreligious only the Guineans can be muslim or mozambicans but they are not the most common african ancestries in here) or irreligious and open to intermarriage.

Some arabs tho, might be already secular, msspf seemed like one of them.

Yeah I've said before that in most societies (including in no small measure the West itself) there is a sexual double standard when it comes to the social acceptability (or lack thereof) for miscegenation. As for Blacks, they are rivalled only by Mestizo Latin Americans and some SE Asians (Thais and Filipinos in the main) in being the most enthusiastic race-mixers (especially those from the Caribbean). The Black Power and whiny (pseudo)-intellectual types are far outnumbered by the White worshippers.

But as for the OP, is this 'Caucasoid' admixture European-like, Berber-like, Arab-like or Somali-like?

[Cernunnos]

Yeah I've said before that in most societies (including in no small measure the West itself) there is a sexual double standard when it comes to the social acceptability (or lack thereof) for miscegenation. As for Blacks, they are rivalled only by Mestizo Latin Americans and some SE Asians (Thais and Filipinos in the main) in being the most enthusiastic race-mixers (especially those from the Caribbean). The Black Power and whiny (pseudo)-intellectual types are far outnumbered by the White worshippers.

But as for the OP, is this 'Caucasoid' admixture European-like, Berber-like, Arab-like or Somali-like?

I would say Berber and Arab like...

[Hamilcar]

Most of this north african ancestry was introduced in the sahel with the equidians who also brought horses to west africa around the 1st millenium BC

[Zanzibar]

Seems every population worldwide has some Caucasoid ancestry first Amerindians now Bantus, what's next Han Chinese too?

Well on the reverse, a lot of primarily Caucasoid populations such as Turks, Azeris, Turkmens, Afghans, Tajiks, Saamis, Tatars (Volga, Lipka, Crimean), Volga Ural tribes, North Africans and many Eritreans also have significant Mongoloid and African/Negroid ancestry. North-Western Pakistanis like Baloch/Brahui, Pashtun, Dardics possess AASI ancestry (related to Andamanese, Negritos and Australoids). Additionally, most Iranians, North Caucasians seem to possess minor East Asian admixture likely from Turkic expansions into West Asia. Some Euros such as Finns, Estonians, Northern Russians, many Hungarians have some Mongoloid ancestry (Finns, Estonians have more than the latter) from Uralic and Turkic tribes (seems to be mainly for Hungarians). Heck, even most Euros have ANE, which while being a predominantly Caucasoid component at 70-75%, also contains 25-30% archaic East Eurasian/Mongoloid-like (likely related to Tianyuan) affinity. So if we take that into account, most Euros with the exception of Sardinians and some South Euros, also have very minor Mongoloid-like ancestry at 3-5% as well.

[Centurion]

Blacks are not enthusiastic race mixer. It's just that most of Black women are ugly, so Black men are the most willing to bang women of others ethnicities. But that doesn't mean that they are willing to raise mixed race children. Most of them are not.

[Tooting Carmen]

Blacks are not enthusiastic race mixer. It's just that most of Black women are ugly, so Black men are the most willing to bang women of others ethnicities. But that doesn't mean that they are willing to raise mixed race children. Most of them are not.

Be that as it may, I would still say that, mostly for political and (a)historical reasons, a lot of people really underestimate how many Blacks chase after Whites. (Ironically, I'd argue the degree to which other groups like Northeast Asians, Indians and MENAs chase after Whites is probably overestimated by lots of people).

[Sebastianus Rex]

Evidently some SSA peoples are partly Caucasoid due to multiple factors, I don't see any dispute about it.

[Cernunnos]

Blacks are not enthusiastic race mixer. It's just that most of Black women are ugly, so Black men are the most willing to bang women of others ethnicities. But that doesn't mean that they are willing to raise mixed race children. Most of them are not.

That doesn't seem to be true, Black Women stick to their own kind and they are usually very aggressive to White men, they don't lack sexual or romantic partners. Black men tend to have an obsession with white women but that doesn't necessarily makes them hard race mixers but yeah it's much more common a Black man-White woman couple than a White man - Black woman couple, which is funny because 50/60 years ago it used to be much more common specialy in colonial regions to be the other way around.

Also I've noticed that Black women are very fertile, I've never met one who has fertility problems if you have a black girlfriend and forget to use some condom or pill she will probably get pregnant.

[Cernunnos]

Evidently some SSA peoples are partly Caucasoid due to multiple factors, I don't see any dispute about it.

I thought that they were mostly located in the algerian, lybian, egyptian and what not part of the saharan desert and south to the limits of those countries most people would be very SSA with perhaps a minor (5-10%) Caucasoid shift. We are talking about a third here (at least for Fula people).

[Tooting Carmen]

That doesn't seem to be true, Black Women stick to their own kind and they are usually very aggressive to White men

Much less true that you might think - for example, in the UK fully one third of Black women in marriages are married to White men.

[Centurion]

Be that as it may, I would still say that, mostly for political and (a)historical reasons, a lot of people really underestimate how many Blacks chase after Whites. (Ironically, I'd argue the degree to which other groups like Northeast Asians, Indians and MENAs chase after Whites is probably overestimated by lots of people).

The least attractives ethnic groups are:

_ Black women and Indian women (especially Indo-Melanid), and Australoid/Veddid

_ East-Asian men (especially North-East Asian) and Indian men (especially Indo-Melanid, again) and Australoid/Veddid

Non-Black men have simply less reasons to try to date outside of their ethnicity. Indian men and Indian women tend to worship Whites, but it's not reciprocate and they are both disfavored so both stick to their own kind.

East-Asian women, however, are more favored than their male counterparts and Black men are more favored than their female counterparts. So White women are more often with Black men than Yellow men, and for White men it's the opposite. Black women and Yellow men being the most disfavored, it makes Black men/White women and Yellow women/White men couples even more frequent.

The problem is that the former kind of union is much more dysgenic that the latter one.

All non-White women are disfavored compared with White women. As a result they are often warmer and more likely to show interest toward White men than are White women.

This is true for Black women too. But since they are the most disfavored, White men tend to chose them less and be picky about what kind of Black women they choose. Last time I was in France, I've noticed that among the small minority of attractive Black women the majority of them were with White men.


That doesn't seem to be true, Black Women stick to their own kind and they are usually very aggressive to White men,

If by "agressive" you mean than they will harass you sexually and then loudly call you a racist if you don't show attraction for them, then yes.


they don't lack sexual or romantic partners.

They are at the rock bottom of the totem pole of race attractiveness, but perhaps their ultra promiscuous nature partly compensate that.


Black men tend to have an obsession with white women but that doesn't necessarily makes them hard race mixers

Yes, as I said, it's just a concupiscent obession,but that doesn't mean they want to attach themselves to a mulatto offspring. And they display similar behaviors towards MENA women and Latinas.

[Tooting Carmen]

The least attractives ethnic groups are:

_ Black women and Indian women (especially Indo-Melanid), and Australoid/Veddid

_ East-Asian men (especially North-East Asian) and Indian men (especially Indo-Melanid, again) and Australoid/Veddid

Very subjective, although I would possibly have to concur regarding Aboriginals.:p


Indian men and Indian women tend to worship Whites, but it's not reciprocate and they are both disfavored so both stick to their own kind.

Indians usually value light skin, but that certainly isn't the same as liking actual White people. Trust me, as someone who grew up in a heavily Indian city, Indians are much less well-disposed towards Whites (whether for cultural/religious reasons or purely physical ones) than they are stereotyped to be - coupled with their strongly patriarchal and caste-ridden customs, this doesn't actually make them well-disposed towards race-mixing.


East-Asian women, however, are more favored than their male counterparts and Black men are more favored than their female counterparts. So White women are more often with Black men than Yellow men, and for White men it's the opposite. Black women and Yellow men being the most disfavored, it makes Black men/White women and Yellow women/White men couples even more frequent.

I more-or-less agree here.


All non-White women are disfavored compared with White women.

East Asian women might dispute that. I've met plenty of conventional, small 'c' conservative men here (i.e. types who you wouldn't expect to go out of their way to race mix) who prefer Thai and Filipina women to White women, as they see them as more docile, caring and less high-maintenance.


This is true for Black women too. But since they are the most disfavored, White men tend to chose them less and be picky about what kind of Black women they choose. Last time I was in France, I've noticed that among the small minority of attractive Black women the majority of them were with White men.

I cannot speak for France, but like I said above the proportion of Black women in Britain who marry out is quite high.


They are at the rock bottom of the totem pole of race attractiveness, but perhaps their ultra promiscuous nature partly compensate that.

:confused:


Yes, as I said, it's just a concupiscent obession,but that doesn't mean they want to attach themselves to a mulatto offspring. And they display similar behaviors towards MENA women and Latinas.

What do you mean?

[Hamilcar]

That doesn't seem to be true, Black Women stick to their own kind and they are usually very aggressive to White men, they don't lack sexual or romantic partners. Black men tend to have an obsession with white women but that doesn't necessarily makes them hard race mixers but yeah it's much more common a Black man-White woman couple than a White man - Black woman couple, which is funny because 50/60 years ago it used to be much more common specialy in colonial regions to be the other way around.

Also I've noticed that Black women are very fertile, I've never met one who has fertility problems if you have a black girlfriend and forget to use some condom or pill she will probably get pregnant.


Let's be honest, they stick to their own kind because they don't have much choice unlike their men.

The stats speak for themselves :

https://i.imgur.com/pnZUSPk.png
https://i.imgur.com/8g21z3b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rzUSX90.jpg



Situation isn't much different here in Belgium or France : many times you see them complaining about their men leaving them for white women


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Jq-DVezfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buPqtN30Q1Y&t=194s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DLSNghwLo


they are the only one who produce such type of videos... anyway in a World dominated by caucasoid populations with their own standards of Beauty, black women can't really succeed.

[Tooting Carmen]

Let's be honest, they stick to their own kind because they don't have much choice unlike their men.

The stats speak for themselves :

https://i.imgur.com/pnZUSPk.png
https://i.imgur.com/8g21z3b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rzUSX90.jpg



Situation isn't much different here in Belgium or France : many times you see them complaining about their men leaving them for white women


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Jq-DVezfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buPqtN30Q1Y&t=194s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DLSNghwLo


they are the only one who produce such type of videos... anyway in a World dominated by caucasoid populations with their own standards of Beauty, black women can't really succeed.

As an aside, would you also agree that among North Africans - as is clearly the case with Middle Easterners and South Asians - there is a double standard where women who mix with either Whites OR Blacks are stigmatised much more than men who do?

[Hamilcar]

As an aside, would you also agree that among North Africans - as is clearly the case with Middle Easterners and South Asians - there is a double standard where women who mix with either Whites OR Blacks are stigmatised much more than men who do?

Obviously but such feeling ultimately finds its root in our biological nature. You have to put that into an evolutionnary context where men/males are in competition with other men.


Also if a north african marries a black woman, it doesn't necessarily means he won't be criticized at least behind his back (many people found such unions repulsive/disgusting)

[Chaos One]

All Sahelian groups (on West side) do have or tend to some North African admix because trade caravans and everything. Hausas usually have 10% to 20% Caucasoid DNA, same would apply to some groups in Mali, etc. Usually those admix happen with Tuaregs, who are known to be very mixed between NAfri/SSA.

[Centurion]

Very subjective, although I would possibly have to concur regarding Aboriginals.:p

Former Pick Up Artist Roosh V have published an article called "the Totem Pole of race attractiveness" 10 years ago. I think his approach is objective, based on several years of intensive pussy-chasing behaviors combined with a scientific approach. As a Iranian-Armenian guy he puts himself in category 4, not 1, which, I think, also show his objectivity. He testified than the only men he truly has some hard time to compete with are those of the categories 1 and 2.


"Before I started traveling I was reluctant to believe some races of men are more highly desired by women than others. Growing up in multi-cultural DC, I’d see white guys, black guys, and Latinos all getting with reasonable-looking girls in the clubs. I did notice that Asian guys only got with Asian girls, but otherwise I believed that for the most part all men are created equal."

"After having lived abroad for more than 18 months, I see there is a very clear totem poll of male desirability. I used to think that my game was all that I needed to outperform any man, but unfortunately many foreign girls are so crazy about certain physical features that I have to work like a mule in some areas of the world."

"Let’s start with the ranking for men, from most desirable to least desirable. If you placed a handsome representative from each category in a lineup and let the world’s women pick their favorite, here’s who would get the most votes":

1. European men with darker, sultry features from countries like Spain, Italy, Portugal, and France

2. Northern European men with light features from countries like Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, and Norway

3. Western men with medium features from countries like England, United States, Australia, Canada, and Ireland

4. Middle Eastern men with darker but slightly rougher features from countries like Turkey, Greece, Morocco, Iran, and Algeria

5. Latino men from countries like Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and ones in Central America

6. Arab men from countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan

7. African men

8. Southeast Asian men from countries like Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia

9. Indian men

10. Asian men from countries like Korea, China, Taiwan

"How about if we did the list for women? It’d be similar to the mens list but with a couple changes:"

1. Northern European women (+1 movement)

2. European women (-1)

3. Western women (no change)

4. Latina women (+1)

5. Middle Eastern women (-1)

6. Southeast Asian women (+2)

7. Asian women (+3)

8. Arab women (-2)

9. Indian women (no change)

10. African women (-3)


"Why are Asian women viewed more favorably than their male counterparts? It’s because they are seen as submissive and compliant, qualities that make for a good partner. Plus Asian genetic features are more pleasing on the feminine form."

I remember he also specified that African-American men do far better than African men, and actually even better than Latinos. But also that the average Brazilian do better than the average Latinos, and would be intermediate between 3 and 4. While African-American women don't benefit of any boost.

I think a dark Brit with a pseudo Iberian look is closer to 1 than to 3. While a South Eurpean who is MENA or South Asian looking will be as low as true MENA ans South Asian men.

"Indian" just refer to the average Indian. Indo-Melanid and Veddid are probably lower than people of category 10, while the lightest Indians may do better than Arabs.



Indians usually value light skin, but that certainly isn't the same as liking actual White people. Trust me, as someone who grew up in a heavily Indian city, Indians are much less well-disposed towards Whites (whether for cultural/religious reasons or purely physical ones) than they are stereotyped to be - coupled with their strongly patriarchal and caste-ridden customs, this doesn't actually make them well-disposed towards race-mixing.

This is ambivalent because the patriarchal and caste-ridden customs you mention doesn't prevent that they are attracted toward Whites despite this. In the West, countless Indians drool at White women, while they are among those who have the most difficulties dating them. But they can compensate their racial disavantage with status, money etc. It's not the case for an Indian woman. But they worship White men too despite this, as it is mentioned there:

https://www.returnofkings.com/51395/5-reasons-why-you-should-not-date-indian-girls


Members of the Roosh V Forum are well aware of Indian Race Trolls, self-loathing Indian men who hijack discussions by whining about how they can’t get white girls because of their brown skin. Indian girls possess the same exact inferiority complex. Every Indian girl I’ve ever known secretly loathed her ethnic heritage, wanted to be white, and fetishized white men to a degree that was downright creepy.




East Asian women might dispute that. I've met plenty of conventional, small 'c' conservative men here (i.e. types who you wouldn't expect to go out of their way to race mix) who prefer Thai and Filipina women to White women, as they see them as more docile, caring and less high-maintenance.

Despite this, East Asian are less favored than Latinas and even MENA women. Fun facts: in USA, the most typed word in pornographic websites is "Latinas", while in France, the most typed word is "Beurette". It's very meaningful, I think.

But the Islam factor and the fact MENA men and Latinos men are least disfavored than East-Asian men explain why White Men/Yellow women are more commons. I think in USA White men/Latina women couples are not rare though. And as a general rule, White men/MENA women couples are less rare than what many people think.

The problem with White women of the West is that they ruin their natural advantage by being unsefurable feminists, at the point that Yellow women can take the advantage. But despite this, I think the average White male would prefer a Slavic woman, a Castiza or even a secularized Arab woman over an East-Asian.



:confused:

They are disavantaged but their more extrovert nature may partly compensate this disavantage.




What do you mean?

Black men who are obsessed with banging White, Latinas or MENA women are above all attracted with their bodies. They don't understand their soul and are not interested with engagment or being attached to an offprisng which doesn't look like them enough. Maghrebi girls who sleep with Black dudes in France are as much likely to be a single mom than White women who do the same. Black men show a similar level of violent behavior toward their Magrhebi partners than their White partners. We can see that very well with that "Beurette à Khel" phenomenon which has ben quite noticable over the past decade.

[Cernunnos]

All Sahelian groups (on West side) do have or tend to some North African admix because trade caravans and everything. Hausas usually have 10% to 20% Caucasoid DNA, same would apply to some groups in Mali, etc. Usually those admix happen with Tuaregs, who are known to be very mixed between NAfri/SSA.

It's much more deep than the Sahel.

[Tooting Carmen]

@Centurion: I don't wish to digress for too long, but here are some articles by London-based Ugandan Asian journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, which look at the prejudices many South Asians have against mixed relationships both with Whites AND with Blacks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhai-brown-whites-keep-britain-racially-tolerant-5334461.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/i-was-sleeping-enemy-44931.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/black-racism-is-every-bit-as-bad-as-white-racism-5352085.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/i-know-the-hate-that-comes-with-a-mixed-race-marriage-281213.html

[Hamilcar]

@Centurion: I don't wish to digress for too long, but here are some articles by London-based Ugandan Asian journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, which look at the prejudices many South Asians have against mixed relationships both with Whites AND with Blacks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhai-brown-whites-keep-britain-racially-tolerant-5334461.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/i-was-sleeping-enemy-44931.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/black-racism-is-every-bit-as-bad-as-white-racism-5352085.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/i-know-the-hate-that-comes-with-a-mixed-race-marriage-281213.html


Because of cultural reasons, Obviously south asians will find white women way more attractive than black women.

[Tooting Carmen]

Because of cultural reasons, Obviously south asians will find white women way more attractive than black women.

Well yes - in the Subcontinent (along with most other parts of the non-African world) mixing with Whites is usually seen, at an absolute minimum, to be the "lesser of two evils" compared to mixing with Blacks.

[Roy]

Some subsaharan africans always looked more brown/dark brown then just black and I thought that was normal it might be a natural variation between them but maybe it's Caucasoid influence....

Igbo people from Nigera often have light beige skin colour lighter than other SSA people despite having the same amount of SSA ancestry, also don't forget about Bushmens (but they are a different kettle of fish genetically). Also Black people can ... tan and lose tan to some extent - albeit Dinka people probably would

[Centurion]

@Centurion: I don't wish to digress for too long, but here are some articles by London-based Ugandan Asian journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, which look at the prejudices many South Asians have against mixed relationships both with Whites AND with Blacks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhai-brown-whites-keep-britain-racially-tolerant-5334461.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/i-was-sleeping-enemy-44931.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/black-racism-is-every-bit-as-bad-as-white-racism-5352085.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/i-know-the-hate-that-comes-with-a-mixed-race-marriage-281213.html


The fact that relationships with White are not socially accepted in India don't prevent physical attraction toward Whites. This is 2 different things. White are simply the forbidden fruit. Among East-Asians, it's not perceived very well either, the only reason it happens more often is the East-Asian women are more attractive than Indians.

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Arabs (the muslim) don't let their women mix with non muslims. Many blacks in Europe otherwise are mostly Christian (in Portugal I will say most of them are Christian and/or irreligious only the Guineans can be muslim or mozambicans but they are not the most common african ancestries in here) or irreligious and open to intermarriage.

Some arabs tho, might be already secular, msspf seemed like one of them.

Msspf is berber not arab, Algerian.


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