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Token
08-23-2021, 08:54 PM
The genetic structure of the Turkish population reveals high levels of variation and admixture
M. Ece Kars, A. Nazlı Başak, O. Emre Onat, Kaya Bilguvar, Jungmin Choi, Yuval Itan, Caner Çağlar, Robin Palvadeau, Jean-Laurent Casanova, David N. Cooper, Peter D. Stenson, Alper Yavuz, Hakan Buluş, Murat Günel, Jeffrey M. Friedman, and Tayfun Özçelik

Significance
We delineated the fine-scale genetic structure of the Turkish population by using sequencing data of 3,362 unrelated Turkish individuals from different geographical origins and demonstrated the position of Turkey in terms of human migration and genetic drift. The results show that the genetic structure of present-day Anatolia was shaped by historical and modern-day migrations, high levels of admixture, and inbreeding. We observed that modern-day Turkey has close genetic relationships with the neighboring Balkan and Caucasus populations. We generated a Turkish Variome which defines the extent of variation observed in Turkey, listed homozygous loss-of-function variants and clinically relevant variants in the cohort, and generated an imputation panel for future genome-wide association studies.

Abstract
The construction of population-based variomes has contributed substantially to our understanding of the genetic basis of human inherited disease. Here, we investigated the genetic structure of Turkey from 3,362 unrelated subjects whose whole exomes (n = 2,589) or whole genomes (n = 773) were sequenced to generate a Turkish (TR) Variome that should serve to facilitate disease gene discovery in Turkey. Consistent with the history of present-day Turkey as a crossroads between Europe and Asia, we found extensive admixture between Balkan, Caucasus, Middle Eastern, and European populations with a closer genetic relationship of the TR population to Europeans than hitherto appreciated. We determined that 50% of TR individuals had high inbreeding coefficients (≥0.0156) with runs of homozygosity longer than 4 Mb being found exclusively in the TR population when compared to 1000 Genomes Project populations. We also found that 28% of exome and 49% of genome variants in the very rare range (allele frequency < 0.005) are unique to the modern TR population. We annotated these variants based on their functional consequences to establish a TR Variome containing alleles of potential medical relevance, a repository of homozygous loss-of-function variants and a TR reference panel for genotype imputation using high-quality haplotypes, to facilitate genome-wide association studies. In addition to providing information on the genetic structure of the modern TR population, these data provide an invaluable resource for future studies to identify variants that are associated with specific phenotypes as well as establishing the phenotypic consequences of mutations in specific genes.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/36/e2026076118

Hektor12
09-08-2021, 05:09 PM
How to read this?

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/36/e2026076118/F1.large.jpg

Lucas
09-08-2021, 05:19 PM
How to read this?

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/36/e2026076118/F1.large.jpg

Colors are the same everywhere so West Turkey is more Balkan / south Euro, east more Caucasus.
We knew it already:)

Peterski
09-08-2021, 05:22 PM
Downloading now. :)

Hektor12
09-08-2021, 05:26 PM
Colors are the same everywhere so West Turkey is more Balkan / south Euro, east more Caucasus.
We knew it already:)

Study is n=4000 if im not mistaken and it indicates that western Turks are much closer to europeans than ive seen since joining here.

Mejgusu
09-08-2021, 05:41 PM
Study is n=4000 if im not mistaken and it indicates that western Turks are much closer to europeans than ive seen since joining here.

Still they aren’t European and never will be. They are just Med shifted Turks, nothing else, some are Balkan influenced/shifted.

Lucas
09-08-2021, 05:50 PM
Too generalized breakdown for me, east, south, west etc..

CommonSense
09-08-2021, 06:10 PM
I remember when some Turkish user was boasting how Turks were genetically more homogenous than Italians :picard1: :rotfl

Leto
09-08-2021, 06:15 PM
Still they aren’t European and never will be. They are just Med shifted Turks, nothing else, some are Balkan influenced/shifted.
We could discuss that after complete de-Islamization but that's not gonna happen of course. :ranger

Leto
09-08-2021, 06:18 PM
Kyp sent me all Dodecad results from this (?) study back in August, a huge spreadsheet. Very thoroughly made, with haplogroups and the total East Eurasian/Mongoloid percentage for every single sample. I think the most EE ones were 16-17% or so.

Mejgusu
09-08-2021, 06:22 PM
We could discuss that after complete de-Islamization but that's not gonna happen of course. :ranger

Turks can’t be European, regardless of their religious status.

Leto
09-08-2021, 06:26 PM
Turks can’t be European, regardless of their religious status.
There's a sizeable percentage of white-passing Turks. I guess the ones in Germany are more like Hadouken-type Kurds from the East. An Azerbaijani who was lighter than average himself once told me Turks are lighter than his people.

Leto
09-08-2021, 06:31 PM
Colors are the same everywhere so West Turkey is more Balkan / south Euro, east more Caucasus.
We knew it already:)
Luke, is it possible to extract the data from this study on the Middle East?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?350720-The-Genomic-History-of-Middle-East
I would like to check out the Syrians in particular, unless they are an older dataset.

Lucas
09-08-2021, 06:46 PM
Luke, is it possible to extract the data from this study on the Middle East?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?350720-The-Genomic-History-of-Middle-East
I would like to check out the Syrians in particular, unless they are an older dataset.

Shitty fastq format. No way. Maybe vbknethio as he recently discovered pipeline for it.

Mejgusu
09-08-2021, 06:47 PM
There's a sizeable percentage of white-passing Turks. I guess the ones in Germany are more like Hadouken-type Kurds from the East. An Azerbaijani who was lighter than average himself once told me Turks are lighter than his people.

The proportion of Turk-non Turk is exactly the same by migrants from Turkey, the difference is we rarely have any Balkan Turks and we have a lot of Kurd from outside of Turkey. Every Turk, and this counts for Turks with significant European admixture too, can’t be European.

I wouldn’t say Azerbaijanis are darker than Turks, they basically don’t have any group with significant European ancestry which could make them look „lighter“. They are also still close to Central and Estern Anatolian Turks, which have a huge population.

Mejgusu
09-08-2021, 06:48 PM
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Lucas
09-08-2021, 06:51 PM
Luke, is it possible to extract the data from this study on the Middle East?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?350720-The-Genomic-History-of-Middle-East
I would like to check out the Syrians in particular, unless they are an older dataset.

Shitty fastq format. No way. Maybe vbknethio as he recently discovered pipeline for it.

And all those nations are available in older datasets, also Emirati.
For Omanis I could waste my computer only.

Leto
09-08-2021, 06:53 PM
The proportion of Turk-non Turk is exactly the same by migrants from Turkey, the difference is we rarely have any Balkan Turks and we have a lot of Kurd from outside of Turkey. Every Turk, and this counts for Turks with significant European admixture too, can’t be European.

I wouldn’t say Azerbaijanis are darker than Turks, they basically don’t have any group with significant European ancestry which could make them look „lighter“. They are also still close to Central and Estern Anatolian Turks, which have a huge population.
Well, at least you do score similar to Azerbaijanis. Regarding looks, they are definitely darker than Georgians and North Caucasians and at the very least as dark as Armenians.

Mejgusu
09-08-2021, 06:59 PM
Well, at least you do score similar to Azerbaijanis. Regarding looks, they are definitely darker than Georgians and North Caucasians and at the very least as dark as Armenians.

North Caucasians are definitely different to South/Transcaucasians. Don’t forget, Azerbaijanis are Iranic influenced, Georgians and North Caucasians not (although some of them show extremely high Gedrosian/NE, Avars if I am not wrong). Even Daghestani Azerbaijanis are mire Northern then other Azerbaijanis. Or look at the Lazes, they are the lightest Anatolian ppl but have less steppe/European admixture than Lurds for example.

Hektor12
09-08-2021, 08:00 PM
Kyp sent me all Dodecad results from this (?) study back in August, a huge spreadsheet. Very thoroughly made, with haplogroups and the total East Eurasian/Mongoloid percentage for every single sample. I think the most EE ones were 16-17% or so.

Did you make averages of them?

Italicus
11-12-2021, 10:04 PM
Still they aren’t European and never will be. They are just Med shifted Turks, nothing else, some are Balkan influenced/shifted.

I think Turks (especially Western Turks) to be a Eurasian ethnicity, halfway between Greece and Central Asia culturally and genetically. You guys are probably the most European Middle Eastern country. I think that if Turks did not adopt Islam, Europe would think of them as European. After all, the Magyars were accepted after doing similar acts as the Turks because they adopted Christianity.

Zoro
11-16-2021, 08:44 AM
How to read this?

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/36/e2026076118/F1.large.jpg

They’re showing Europeans as Navy blue color, Balkans as yellow, Caucasus as dark green, SW Asians as purple, E Asians lime green, Siberians as brown, S Asians light blue.

According to their pie chart:

Highest European: Balkan Turks with around 60% followed by W Turks with 45%

Highest E Asian & Siberian combined: S Turks with 8% followed by C and N Turks 7%. Lowest E Turks 2-3%

Highest S Asian: E Turks with 4-5%

Highest Caucasus: E Turks with 47%


Are these numbers accurate? No because the numbers will change depending on what components the calculators uses. For ex 23andme, Dodecad k12, this study, other studies.

If you want more accurate numbers you have to figure out exactly which populations are ancestral to Turks. If your guess is accurate then qpAdm should give you accurate admixture breakdown.

Zoro
11-16-2021, 01:33 PM
Is there a link for this paper that’s not behind a pay wall ?