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Jana

08-28-2021, 09:36 AM

No adc is required, keep it 0.

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Feiichy%20Slavic%20G25%20ancient%20calculator.htm

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 1.6472% / 0.01647246

59.6 (Balto-)Slavic
15.4 Balkan
14.8 Graeco-Roman
8.8 Celtic_like
1.4 Turkic

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 0.8447% / 0.00844747

44.6 (Balto-)Slavic
26.8 Germanic
22.2 Graeco-Roman
5.4 Turkic
1.0 Balkan

Impaler

08-28-2021, 10:44 AM

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.0899% / 0.02089891
44.6 Graeco-Roman
25.4 Germanic
17.0 (Balto-)Slavic
12.4 Turkic
0.6 Celtic_like

Kaspias

08-28-2021, 10:57 AM

Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.2249% / 0.02224914
37.8 Graeco-Roman
19.8 Turkic
18.6 Celtic_like
17.2 (Balto-)Slavic
6.6 Finnic_like

Ford

08-28-2021, 11:10 AM

Target: Ford
Distance: 1.3571% / 0.01357072
51.6 (Balto-)Slavic
30.0 Graeco-Roman
11.6 Balkan
3.6 Finnic_like
3.2 Celtic_like

Distance to: Ford
0.05581011 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.05787730 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.05856970 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.06012161 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.06187707 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.06282361 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.06290510 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.06426766 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.06436955 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.06562366 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.06703059 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.06857371 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.06890893 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.06955899 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.06992139 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.07002617 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.07191840 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.07334974 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.07339709 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.07504211 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.07555474 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.07617808 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.07694382 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.07715732 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.07764810 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255

michal3141

08-28-2021, 11:13 AM

Slava!

Target: michal3141
Distance: 1.7366% / 0.01736583
77.0 (Balto-)Slavic
7.4 Celtic_like
6.2 Finnic_like
5.2 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Germanic

Gallop

08-28-2021, 12:02 PM

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.2824% / 0.03282401
71.0 Celtic_like
18.4 Balkan
9.0 Graeco-Roman
1.6 Turkic

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.2824% / 0.03282401
64.6 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
11.8 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
9.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
6.6 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
6.4 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
1.6 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

JohnnyP

08-28-2021, 01:28 PM

Distance to: jp
0.05311539 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.05687505 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.05989315 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.07192614 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.07196690 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.07930930 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.08097230 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.08419372 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.08550917 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.08648379 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119

Polak

08-28-2021, 01:38 PM

Target: Polak_scaled
Distance: 2.6763% / 0.02676344
84.4 (Balto-)Slavic
15.0 Germanic
0.6 Turkic

Hulu

08-28-2021, 02:28 PM

It's a good calculator. Closer to Celtic then Germanic then Slavic. And Balkan before Greko Roman

Distance to: Hulu
0.03768554 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.04306871 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.04683797 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.05114012 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.05756484 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.06374038 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.07710375 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.09332869 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.09598173 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.10009834 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.10689814 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.10971296 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.11508840 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.11705754 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.11845558 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.12353872 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.12467712 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.12728529 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.12814803 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.12828540 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.12855890 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.12924306 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.13015361 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.13438142 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6

Target: Hulu
Distance: 2.4000% / 0.02400006
61.8 Balkan
20.8 Graeco-Roman
15.4 (Balto-)Slavic
2.0 Turkic

If I remove turkic and slavic comes to this which is in line with Finnic at 23andme and more realistic to the real story based on distances above as well.

Target: Hulu
Distance: 2.6388% / 0.02638779
50.8 Balkan
26.4 Graeco-Roman
21.0 Celtic_like
1.8 Finnic_like

Freeroostah

08-28-2021, 02:36 PM

Target: VangosH_scaled
Distance: 1.7902% / 0.01790224
52.8 Graeco-Roman
25.2 (Balto-)Slavic
22.0 Balkan

JamesBond007

08-28-2021, 02:51 PM

Nice calc ! :thumbs: I'm not Slavic and I still get a good result with an under 2 score ! Its interesting to see I score so close to a non-British-isles continental focused calculator. I could probably modify the calculator to get a closer distance but it would no longer be slavic-focused :P :

Target: Jamesbond007
Distance: 1.7097% / 0.01709683
77.0 Germanic
21.2 Celtic_like
1.6 Turkic
0.2 Finnic_like

Distance to: Jamesbond007
0.03007017 Germanic: DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.03240978 Germanic: DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.03412486 Germanic: DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.03459290 Germanic: DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.03630001 Celtic_like: DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.04012541 Celtic_like: DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.04181531 Celtic_like: DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.04238501 Celtic_like: DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119

Hulu

08-28-2021, 03:52 PM

JamesBond007

08-28-2021, 05:19 PM

Norman

Thanks for the insight.:)

Yeah, sorry, this is totally off topic here but it seems a PITA to start a new thread. There are different Normans branches, due to invading all over, some are more insular so it makes it more difficult to pin point one's ancestry compared to people who are just straight French or Irish or English or Italian or Norwegian since they were a small elite.

You may be correct, however :

Distance to: Jamesbond007
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish

I think some of the Viking occupation samples are a good proxy :

Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02218995 England_IA
0.02517809 VK2020_England_Oxford_VA
0.02589647 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.02641704 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
0.02652135 England_Saxon
0.02678481 VK2020_IRL_Dublin_VA
0.02688387 VK2020_DNK_Funen_VA
0.02688990 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.02695867 Scotland_MBA
0.02765069 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
0.02785290 VK2020_NOR_South_VA
0.02790445 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.02834272 VK2020_IRL_Eyrephort_VA
0.02885695 England_MBA
0.02891468 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
0.02897630 VK2020_ISL_Hofstadir_VA
0.02902315 VK2020_NOR_North_VA
0.02911312 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
0.02951875 ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
0.02956853 Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.02971579 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
0.02972524 England_CA_EBA
0.02976019 SWE_Ollsjo_BA

Figaro

08-28-2021, 05:43 PM

My mother, who is 1/2 Slavic.

Target: CordedMom_scaled
Distance: 0.8542% / 0.00854194
47.6 (Balto-)Slavic
29.0 Germanic
17.0 Graeco-Roman
3.4 Turkic
1.6 Finnic_like
1.4 Celtic_like

And my father, who only has a little Slavic ancestry from part of our German (Wendish)

Target: CordedDad_scaled
Distance: 1.5268% / 0.01526825
72.0 Germanic
12.6 Balkan
12.0 (Balto-)Slavic
3.4 Graeco-Roman

Coastal Elite

08-28-2021, 05:45 PM

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.2104% / 0.01210363
46.2 Germanic
37.4 Balkan
10.2 (Balto-)Slavic
4.8 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Finnic_like
0.2 Turkic

Dad
Target: Dad
Distance: 2.7237% / 0.02723651
41.4 Balkan
25.0 (Balto-)Slavic
18.2 Graeco-Roman
11.2 Germanic
3.8 Turkic
0.4 Finnic_like

Figaro

08-28-2021, 05:52 PM

JamesBond007

08-28-2021, 06:14 PM

VUR is strong in you.

That is according to retarded 'white Americans' who don't know history an descend from peasants. I descend from elite Draco Sentien elven vampires. Not exactly as elite as the house of the Royal Normans house De Vere but I am of the Norman house of De Burgh an aristocratic line. The Turkic is picking up on ancient Scythian flow and the Alemannic is picking up on ancient Merovingian flow. The imperial Royal Dragon Court and Order is for aristocratic Scythian-Merovingian vampires only not full blooded American 'white European peasants". I trace my Scythian heritage to the Pictish, Dragon Princess Maelasanu of Northumbria.

This Aristocratic line is descended through the Tuatha de Danaan (the Dragon Kings of Anu) on the one hand, and the Egyptian Dragon Dynasty of Sobek on the other. The latter strain included the bloodline of the Davidic House of Judah who married into the descent of the Merovingian Kings of the Franks.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/dragoncourt07_01.jpg

Ylla

08-28-2021, 06:16 PM

Figaro

08-28-2021, 06:18 PM

That is according to retarded 'white Americans' who don't know history an descend from peasants. I descend from elite Draco Sentien elven vampires. Not exactly as elite as the house of the Royal Normans house De Vere but I am of the Norman house of De Burgh an aristocratic line. The Turkic is picking up on ancient Scythian flow and the Alemannic is picking up on ancient Merovingian flow. The imperial Royal Dragon Court and Order is for aristocratic Scythian-Merovingian vampires only not full blooded American 'white European peasants". I trace my Scythian heritage to the Pictish, Dragon Princess Maelasanu of Northumbria.

This Aristocratic line is descended through the Tuatha de Danaan (the Dragon Kings of Anu) on the one hand, and the Egyptian Dragon Dynasty of Sobek on the other. The latter strain included the bloodline of the Davidic House of Judah who married into the descent of the Merovingian Kings of the Franks.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/dragoncourt07_01.jpg

Cool, bro. Anyway, I just said that to trigger you, and I guess it worked. Keep on keepin' on, holmes.

Figaro

08-28-2021, 06:40 PM

Figaro

08-28-2021, 06:41 PM

--duplicate post--

frankhammer

08-28-2021, 07:45 PM

It would be useful if the OP's of these threads would tell us what source we should be using. e.g. Eurogenes this or somethingorother that.

celticdragongod

08-28-2021, 08:53 PM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.03411732 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.03631814 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.03633162 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.03637884 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.03667677 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.03778829 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.04017575 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.04018333 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.04122120 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.04212053 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.04364449 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.04700142 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.04742167 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05038795 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.05504571 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.05522127 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.05581640 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.05773196 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.06199968 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.07478766 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.07495711 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.07872717 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.07996799 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.08193953 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.09370006 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7768% / 0.01776823
27.6 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
17.6 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
16.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
14.2 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
8.6 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
8.2 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
3.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
2.4 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
1.6 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.4 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.4 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7768% / 0.01776823
78.0 Germanic
17.6 Celtic_like
2.8 (Balto-)Slavic
1.6 Balkan

oszkar07

08-29-2021, 12:04 AM

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.1496% / 0.01149606
37.2 Germanic
26.0 (Balto-)Slavic
20.4 Balkan
10.4 Celtic_like
4.0 Graeco-Roman
2.0 Finnic_like

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.2079% / 0.01207930 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2 Germanic
27.4 Balkan
26.2 (Balto-)Slavic
4.2 Celtic_like

cakmir7y

08-29-2021, 06:01 AM

Distance to: cakmir7y_scaled
0.04254033 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.04389800 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.04486977 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.04627686 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.04715332 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.04728183 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.04971268 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.05244040 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.05281082 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05286845 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6

Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.4731% / 0.01473131
47.8 (Balto-)Slavic
23.6 Celtic_like
19.4 Germanic
9.0 Graeco-Roman
0.2 Finnic_like

Vojnik

08-29-2021, 06:53 AM

<tbody>
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 1.3958% / 0.01395768

41.6
Graeco-Roman

33.4
(Balto-)Slavic

17.8
Balkan

6.2
Germanic

1.0
Celtic_like

</tbody>

rothaer

08-29-2021, 09:16 AM

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0355% / 0.01035514
42.6 Germanic
40.0 (Balto-)Slavic
16.6 Celtic_like
0.8 Finnic_like

Target: rothaer_wife_scaled
Distance: 1.7293% / 0.01729291
70.8 Germanic
29.2 (Balto-)Slavic

Looks very plausible.

noricum

08-29-2021, 09:51 AM

Art23

08-29-2021, 12:31 PM

Distance: 1.9284% / 0.01928412
82.0 (Balto-)Slavic
8.4 Graeco-Roman
4.4 Balkan
3.2 Finnic_like
2.0 Celtic_like

Thracian

08-29-2021, 01:44 PM

Target: Thracian_scaled
Distance: 1.1489% / 0.01148949
55.4 Graeco-Roman
18.8 (Balto-)Slavic
11.4 Turkic
8.2 Celtic_like
6.2 Germanic

lacreme

08-29-2021, 02:04 PM

My Greek friend, his mom and her non bio father.
I wonder why these scores for Germanic for the last 2 and Celtic (plus a little bit of Germanic ) for my friend, a sign of partial heritage from (North? ) Greek pops which in turn were influenced from pops further up in the Balkans ?

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.2406% / 0.01240633
73.4 Graeco-Roman
10.2 (Balto-)Slavic
7.8 Balkan
5.8 Celtic_like
2.4 Germanic
0.4 Turkic

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.2407% / 0.01240682
19.6 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
18.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
18.6 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
16.4 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
8.0 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
6.2 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
5.6 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
3.0 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
2.4 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
1.0 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.4 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89

Target: ChrisMom_scaled
Distance: 1.8334% / 0.01833376
82.6 Graeco-Roman
9.6 Germanic
5.8 (Balto-)Slavic
2.0 Finnic_like

Target: ChrisMom_scaled
Distance: 1.8493% / 0.01849348
43.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
32.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
6.4 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
5.6 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
5.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
3.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
1.8 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
1.6 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196

Target: Chris_nonbio_grandpa_scaled
Distance: 2.2767% / 0.02276706
47.2 Balkan
31.2 Graeco-Roman
14.4 (Balto-)Slavic
5.0 Germanic
2.2 Turkic

Target: Chris_nonbio_grandpa_scaled
Distance: 2.2767% / 0.02276706
30.8 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
27.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
16.4 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
14.4 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
5.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
4.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
2.2 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228

rothaer

08-30-2021, 10:08 AM

I'm a bit surprised I get no Celtic, but 25.8 Balkan

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.3596% / 0.01359569
47.2 (Balto-)Slavic
25.8 Balkan
21.4 Germanic
5.6 Graeco-Roman

Distance to: noricum_scaled
0.04656467 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.05036160 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.05174393 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05292452 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.05438954 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.05445123 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.05493693 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.05580246 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.05664348 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.05715949 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.05732077 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.05732512 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.05821457 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.05885541 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05902464 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.06217691 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.06415995 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.06451396 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.06517303 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.06591839 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.06668254 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.06683579 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.06705989 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.07322606 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
0.07365922 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119

Yes, this is surprising at a first glance.

You are from the Lavanttal as you do state. In general there is a paleo Balkanite admixture in Austria and Bavaria which is likely responsible for the high amount of dinarid types within the population. Though Noricum later doubtless was ethnically Celtic, the calculator is about genetics and it looks like the Balkan samples are preferred for modelling here.
The Celtic_like references are likely more like that non-Germanic Western and Northern Alps population that does not have a notable dinarid admixture.

The Celtic_like component is then to be seen primarily as a kind of rest that need to taken away from Germanic and Slavic for removing later contributions from after the expansions, which are not part of original Slavs and Germanics.

Viewed in these terms the result maybe makes sense after all.

lockdownboredom

08-30-2021, 10:49 AM

Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 2.4646% / 0.02464551
52.8 Graeco-Roman
28.0 (Balto-)Slavic
19.2 Balkan

Jana

08-30-2021, 01:57 PM

Great job Feiichy! :)
Distance: 1.5801% / 0.01580145
52.2 Balkan
25.4 Graeco-Roman
22.4 (Balto-)Slavic

My region of Kosovo had huge Roman settlement, could explain Roman and East med shifted results?

Absolutely. Even though more iron age Balkan samples both all over the "peninsula" would be really welcome to get a clearer picture.

Stearsolina, why do you suppose my mother scores so high in Turkic (in particular), in light of her ancestry? Just curious of your thoughts.

She's half Polish/Belarusian with 1/4 Ashkenazi Jewish or something like that? Not sure. Could be some Lipka Tatar ancestry I guess. Besides that some Ashkenazis can score minor Turkic too based on what I've seen.

It would be useful if the OP's of these threads would tell us what source we should be using. e.g. Eurogenes this or somethingorother that.

It does. You should use your G25 scaled coordinates :)

My Greek friend, his mom and her non bio father.
I wonder why these scores for Germanic for the last 2 and Celtic (plus a little bit of Germanic ) for my friend, a sign of partial heritage from (North? ) Greek pops which in turn were influenced from pops further up in the Balkans ?

I guess so. But for southern Balkans in particular, more post-Mycenean Greek samples would be really welcome. Doric ones for example. There is one supposedly Iron Age Doric sample from Crete, but not sure how representative it is thus it wasn't really included.

Yes, this is surprising at a first glance.

You are from the Lavanttal as you do state. In general there is a paleo Balkanite admixture in Austria and Bavaria which is likely responsible for the high amount of dinarid types within the population. Though Noricum later doubtless was ethnically Celtic, the calculator is about genetics and it looks like the Balkan samples are preferred for modelling here.
The Celtic_like references are likely more like that non Germanic Western and Northern Alps population that does not have a notable dinarid admixture.

The Celtic_like component is then more to be seen primarily as a kind of rest that need to taken away from Germanic and Slavic for removing later contributions after expansion, which are not part of original Slavs and Germanics.

Viewed in these terms the result maybe makes sense after all.

Interesting. Also it's important to mention northern Paleo Balkan samples can be modeled like around 60% (central European) Bell Beaker + 40% Dalmatian neolithic farmer.
Thus northern Paleo-Balkanites non Med part was genetically NW Euro, and not NE Euro like. Furthermore, "northern Illyrians" from Venetian-Liburnian and Panonnian areas are considered to be influenced by Urnfield culture :)

Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 2.4646% / 0.02464551
52.8 Graeco-Roman
28.0 (Balto-)Slavic
19.2 Balkan

You're a northern Greek or Albanian?

Grace O'Malley

08-30-2021, 02:16 PM

Luke35

08-30-2021, 02:44 PM

My father's theoretical results:

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9354% / 0.01935365
36.0 (Balto-)Slavic
31.0 Germanic
23.4 Graeco-Roman
7.0 Turkic
2.0 Balkan
0.6 Celtic_like

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-30-2021, 03:08 PM

Target: Viriato
Distance: 3.2624% / 0.03262374
57.0 Celtic_like
24.4 Balkan
17.0 Graeco-Roman
1.6 Turkic

rothaer

08-30-2021, 04:01 PM

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9569% / 0.01956916
89.8 Germanic
10.2 Celtic_like

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9569% / 0.01956916
29.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
27.8 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
13.8 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
10.2 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
8.4 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
4.6 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
3.6 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
2.6 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.03063009 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.03544890 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.03697350 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.03878696 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.03892814 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.04154123 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.04222668 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.04287648 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.04602010 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.04666602 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.04739823 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.04929433 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.04968616 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.05111173 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05288689 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.05409999 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.05908444 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.05934229 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.06033807 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.07850163 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.07918555 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.08021053 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.08282108 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.08470098 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.09826797 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28

I think this calculator is not suitable to British Isles populations as there lacks fitting references. The Celtic_like references in this calculator are continental ones from Central Europe. This means for an Irish individual there is a lot wrongly assigned to Germanic.

BUT this problem can not even be solved properly by some non-Germanic references from the British Isles. Davidski himself judges the G25 coords as not suitable for well distinguishing Insular Celtic from Germanic and because of this he has even developed a separate coords system (called Celtic-Germanic or something resembling) for this that is deviant from G25 coords (!).

In short: we can not expect any G25 calculator to properly solve that problem. Unfortunately.

noricum

08-30-2021, 04:06 PM

You are from the Lavanttal as you do state.

Yes, I'm and so are all 4 of my grandparents.

In general there is a paleo Balkanite admixture in Austria and Bavaria which is likely responsible for the high amount of dinarid types within the population.

Oh, I would be more cautious with this conclusion as there are also many Dinarid looking people in France and other places without much or any Balkan admixture.

Though Noricum later doubtless was ethnically Celtic, the calculator is about genetics and it looks like the Balkan samples are preferred for modelling here.

Southern noricum (later noricum mediterraneum) only became Celtic relatively shortly before it all was "sacked" by the romans. Before that it was settled by the remainders of BA Eastern Hallstatt (Osthallstattkreis) people ( seem my avatar and signature) who had little to do with the supposedly proto Celtic Hallstatt people, unlike the name might suggest. So the Celtic genetic imput might not have been that great in these southern areas of the Eastern Alps. Then again due to domestic migration there should still be some Celtic genetic influence be visible in my results. My (matrinlinear) last name is rare in Carinthia, yet common in f.e. Salzburg and Upper Austria.

Anyways thank you for sharing your thoughts!

paradox

08-31-2021, 12:14 AM

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.2276% / 0.01227631
63.2 Graeco-Roman
29.0 (Balto-)Slavic
4.6 Balkan
3.2 Turkic
---------------------

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.5200% / 0.01520025
36.4 Graeco-Roman
34.6 (Balto-)Slavic
26.4 Balkan
2.0 Finnic_like
0.6 Turkic

Nurzat

08-31-2021, 01:03 AM

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.3843% / 0.01384282
55.4 (Balto-)Slavic
19.0 Graeco-Roman
10.8 Balkan
8.4 Germanic
4.0 Celtic_like
2.4 Turkic

Distance to: Nurzat
0.05613592 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.05796093 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.06041903 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.06063056 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.06116304 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.06153705 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.06179402 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.06394723 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.06515580 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.06529812 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.06661746 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.06780391 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.06815440 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.06826893 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.06829771 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.07033355 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.07120045 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.07126124 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.07155136 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.07400871 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.07441500 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.07458268 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.07492372 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.07603706 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.07804229 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43

Hulu

08-31-2021, 02:32 AM

Hulu

08-31-2021, 03:18 PM

'Lost ancient capital city' is discovered in France: Celtic treasure including extravagant jewellery, weapons and chariot parts are found at 3,000-year-old Bronze Age hillfort

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9942967/Archaeology-Bronze-Age-hillfort-filled-treasure-unearthed-France-lost-capital-city.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/19/18/14997576-7159387-image-a-3_1560966436380.jpg

Jana

08-31-2021, 05:47 PM

I think these are ancient samples that's why you don't have solid celtic samples from the Isles but from the continent instead. Also Ireland was raided for a good 200 years from vikings before norman invasion. Grace appears Germanic shifted in other calculators too.

Calculator simply isn't designed for British Islanders and is very unsuited for them. Irish get completely inflated Germanic because their pre-medieval DNA isn't anything like continantal Celts, but much more northwestern and close to early Germanics. Irish do have Viking admixture, but it's minor and they are nowhere close to being Germanic, obviously.

Also, Balkan in this calculator should simply be called Illyrian.

It shouldn't, Thracian sample is included as well.

17571imre

08-31-2021, 08:16 PM

Target: MH_scaled
Distance: 1.0741% / 0.01074098
40.4 (Balto-)Slavic
19.4 Balkan
14.2 Graeco-Roman
13.4 Celtic_like
11.0 Germanic
1.2 Finnic_like
0.4 Turkic

Target: MH_scaled
Distance: 1.2271% / 0.01227138 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2 (Balto-)Slavic
22.0 Graeco-Roman
14.0 Balkan
14.0 Celtic_like
7.8 Germanic

Mother:
Target: CB_scaled
Distance: 1.3342% / 0.01334249
52.4 (Balto-)Slavic
17.4 Balkan
13.4 Celtic_like
7.0 Turkic
6.6 Graeco-Roman
2.2 Germanic
1.0 Finnic_like

Target: CB_scaled
Distance: 1.3445% / 0.01344472 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 (Balto-)Slavic
17.6 Balkan
15.4 Celtic_like
7.8 Turkic
6.2 Graeco-Roman

accurate results for us

rothaer

08-31-2021, 11:10 PM

Yes, I'm and so are all 4 of my grandparents.

Oh, I would be more cautious with this conclusion as there are also many Dinarid looking people in France and other places without much or any Balkan admixture.

Southern noricum (later noricum mediterraneum) only became Celtic relatively shortly before it all was "sacked" by the romans. Before that it was settled by the remainders of BA Eastern Hallstatt (Osthallstattkreis) people ( seem my avatar and signature) who had little to do with the supposedly proto Celtic Hallstatt people, unlike the name might suggest. So the Celtic genetic imput might not have been that great in these southern areas of the Eastern Alps. Then again due to domestic migration there should still be some Celtic genetic influence be visible in my results. My (matrinlinear) last name is rare in Carinthia, yet common in f.e. Salzburg and Upper Austria.

Anyways thank you for sharing your thoughts!

You're welcome. And yes, true with the rather late Celtisation of Noricum or a part of it.

As for the mentioned appearance of the dinarids my statement is admittedly not a confirmed finding, but more an educated guess. My thoughts go like this: the dinarid subrace has in a wider sense been considered as a sister subrace of the armenid race, though having had an own and somewhat deviating development. Now, I consider dinarid is connected to a contribution of CHG. As CHG is a notable part of Yamnaya and derivates, such traits to a certain degree show up kind of everywhere among IE speakers. What I referred to is just the elevated appearance of dinarid traits on the Balkans and in the Eastern Alps. In the Balkans there is an elevated proportion of CHG, that exceeds what came with Yamnayas and derivates. You can see that by noticing the EHG proportion, which also always was carried by the Yamnayas. I've not checked for if this elevation of the CHG proportion, which can not be explained by Yamnayas, also does apply to Austria and Bavaria, but I very much guess so.
I don't know if that thoughts make sense to you.

Lucas

09-01-2021, 12:06 AM

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760596
58.8 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
26.2 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
8.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
5.8 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
1.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760596
90.8 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Graeco-Roman

x0.25 and 0.5 ADC doesn't help :)

Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.02485183 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.03500471 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.03686176 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.04181773 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
0.04219519 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.04230759 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
0.04933756 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.07170924 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.07495980 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.07684715 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.07687122 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.07767795 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.07853808 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.07982405 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.08174066 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.08347087 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.08350402 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.08745460 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.08774654 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.08810915 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.08853852 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.09272827 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.09678729 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.10123205 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.10300642 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78

Impaler

09-01-2021, 12:57 AM

lockdownboredom

09-01-2021, 03:09 AM

You're a northern Greek or Albanian?

The former

Jana

09-01-2021, 05:40 AM

rothaer

09-01-2021, 06:47 AM

(...)
x0.25 and 0.5 ADC doesn't help :)

:D

Luke35

09-01-2021, 03:29 PM

Why do I score high Germanic? Medieval ancestry?

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.0900% / 0.02089982
19.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
18.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
17.2 Germanic: DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
13.0 (Balto-)Slavic: DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
11.2 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89
8.2 Germanic: DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
6.6 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
2.2 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
1.8 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
1.4 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196
0.6 Celtic_like: DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78

After reading Feiichy's advice to you, I decided to add a Tajik sample to the source for my father's calculation, and it dropped his German by over 5%. For some reason a small amount of South Central Asian can fit comfortably into mine and my father's results. Not saying this is a better model for my dad, just demonstrating how the Tajik affected his German. So I think for you there my indeed be a sample you could add that will possibly give you a better balance.

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8681% / 0.01868069
35.8 (Balto-)Slavic
25.0 Germanic
16.0 Graeco-Roman
11.8 Balkan
7.8 Tajik_Ishkashim
3.2 Turkic
0.4 Celtic_like

Lucas

09-01-2021, 07:35 PM

my daughter

======================

Feiichy G25 Slavic Calc

Target: J_scaled
Distance: 1.5443% / 0.01544277
31.2 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
15.0 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
14.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
13.0 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
12.8 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
7.8 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
4.8 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
1.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111

Target: J_scaled
Distance: 1.5443% / 0.01544277
72.0 (Balto-)Slavic
15.4 Graeco-Roman
12.6 Germanic

Peterski

09-01-2021, 08:41 PM

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760596
90.8 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Graeco-Roman

x0.25 and 0.5 ADC doesn't help https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.png

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9LKAccmZk

Jana

09-01-2021, 08:50 PM

And here are Peterski results, I see he was shy to post them :P As Slavic as me, both get 59%! :o

Target: PeterskiLD_scaled
Distance: 2.4891% / 0.02489090

59.8 (Balto-)Slavic
20.0 Germanic
14.2 Celtic_like
6.0 Graeco-Roman

https://media0.giphy.com/media/1AIREf0bCPFeHm5CW7/giphy.gif?cid=790b76116948d7c89f572c2ac10d89da6378 623443c8f2cf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=s

Lucas

09-01-2021, 09:27 PM

I've just checked I'm the most Slavic here:cool:

andre

09-01-2021, 09:40 PM

Target: Andre_scaled
Distance: 1.2654% / 0.01265416
37.4 (Balto-)Slavic
28.8 Balkan
24.2 Graeco-Roman
6.8 Turkic
2.8 Germanic

Peterski

09-02-2021, 11:03 AM

I've just checked I'm the most Slavic here:cool:

There is a Leutnant Ewald Maluga in our Master List of Poland 1939 KIA German officers (started by initiative of user Stauffenberg II). Is he your relative?:

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=120220

Just because you have Slavic results (assuming you are posting your real results, of course) doesn't mean, that you didn't have "dziadek w Wehrmachcie". :)

J. Ketch

09-02-2021, 11:25 AM

Surprisingly high amount of Celtic.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7993% / 0.01799288
61.8 Germanic
38.2 Celtic_like

Leto

09-02-2021, 11:51 AM

Target: Leto_scaled
Distance: 1.6025% / 0.01602459
66.0 (Balto-)Slavic
20.2 Finnic_like
5.6 Graeco-Roman
4.6 Celtic_like
2.2 Germanic
1.4 Turkic

Grace O'Malley

09-02-2021, 11:55 AM

I think this calculator is not suitable to British Isles populations as there lacks fitting references. The Celtic_like references in this calculator are continental ones from Central Europe. This means for an Irish individual there is a lot wrongly assigned to Germanic.

BUT this problem can not even be solved properly by some non-Germanic references from the British Isles. Davidski himself judges the G25 coords as not suitable for well distinguishing Insular Celtic from Germanic and because of this he has even developed a separate coords system (called Celtic-Germanic or something resembling) for this that is deviant from G25 coords (!).

In short: we can not expect any G25 calculator to properly solve that problem. Unfortunately.

Good luck with ever being able to differentiate even with samples. Insular Celtic or Germanic pfft. I just know I'm Northwestern European. I think it is an adjustment in thinking and realising that Bronze Age populations were very similar genetically and whether people speak Germanic languages or Celtic languages in Northwestern Europe they are going to descend from similar populations. I would be happy if more ancient genomes from Ireland were released and could be added to G25 and other programs. I would like to see a study looking at Ireland pre-Viking and pre-Norman and then after so from the late Bronze Age to the Late Medieval period. They do have the samples and also there has been some talks presented by Dr Lara Cassidy hinting at some interesting results. The Irish labs though are holding on to their genomes so at the moment there is not many available from Ireland. In the end though I think all these populations are going to be quite similar but I'm hoping they will be able to use some finer scale techniques to differentiate the populations even though they are all quite similar.

In the end Bell Beaker descended from Corded Ware and the Irish are closer to other Northwestern Europeans than they are to any Continental Celtic sample.

Lucas

09-02-2021, 12:13 PM

Dunai

09-02-2021, 12:57 PM

Eurasian hodgepodge (added the additional Balkan samples):

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.8160% / 0.00816049
38.4 (Balto-)Slavic
31.2 Germanic
10.2 Balkan
7.6 Celtic_like
6.8 Graeco-Roman
5.8 Turkic

Ion Basescul

09-02-2021, 01:02 PM

Target: Ion_Basescul
Distance: 1.4726% / 0.01472553
51.4 (Balto-)Slavic
22.4 Graeco-Roman
12.2 Balkan
10.2 Turkic
3.8 Celtic_like

Hulu

09-02-2021, 01:52 PM

I would like to see a study looking at Ireland pre-Viking and pre-Norman and then after so from the late Bronze Age to the Late Medieval period. They do have the samples .

This

Jana

09-02-2021, 02:14 PM

Jana

09-02-2021, 02:18 PM

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 1.6806% / 0.01680552 | ADC: 0.25x RC

59.6 (Balto-)Slavic
17.6 Balkan
13.0 Graeco-Roman
9.8 Celtic_like

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 1.0009% / 0.01000884 | ADC: 0.25x RC

46.8 (Balto-)Slavic
23.0 Germanic
19.6 Graeco-Roman
7.0 Turkic
3.6 Balkan

Hulu

09-02-2021, 03:04 PM

Added a couple of Paleo Balkan samples, curious would that change anything especially for our Albanian users.

Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19,0.120652,0.167562,0.0 12822,-0.045866,0.035391,-0.022869,-0.00047,-0.000923,0.001023,0.045559,0.007145,0.01079,-0.013528,0.007844,-0.014115,-0.018297,-0.003129,0.003421,0.008547,-0.016258,-0.010232,0.003462,0.005793,0.007832,0.001317
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40,0.108132,0.149283,0.0026 4,-0.037791,0.018157,-0.010598,0.00094,-0.014538,0.003477,0.026789,-0.002436,0.008243,-0.007582,-0.008945,-0.00285,0.005304,0.020731,-0.003927,-0.000377,0.000375,-0.011355,0.00507,0.002218,0.00482,-0.005149
Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy192,0.124067,0.137096,0.015 462,-0.020026,0.015695,-0.012829,0.00235,0.000692,0.001023,0.025878,0.0094 19,-0.000599,-0.006987,-0.008945,-0.013301,-0.009679,0.012908,0.004307,-0.000377,0.003502,-0.011729,0.009892,-0.004314,-0.004338,0.001796
Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy197,0.122929,0.140143,0.029 415,-0.023902,0.023081,-0.012829,0.015511,-0.005307,0.00225,0.035172,-0.005846,-0.001349,-0.01115,0.000275,-0.010586,-0.0118,0.001434,-0.000127,0.013324,-0.010255,-0.004742,-0.000989,0.003328,-0.002771,-0.008981
Balkan:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.01 5462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239

It's better. Lower distance, higher balkan, lower greco-roman & slavic

New:
Target: Hulu
Distance: 2.2899% / 0.02289914
72.4 Balkan
13.6 Graeco-Roman
12.8 (Balto-)Slavic
1.2 Turkic

Old

Target: Hulu
Distance: 2.4000% / 0.02400006
61.8 Balkan
20.8 Graeco-Roman
15.4 (Balto-)Slavic
2.0 Turkic

Distance to: Hulu
0.03397229 Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.03768554 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.03929297 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40
0.04306871 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.04650591 Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.04683797 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.04862087 Balkan:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12
0.05114012 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.05756484 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.05757742 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.06374038 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.07710375 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.09332869 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.09598173 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.10009834 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.10689814 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.10971296 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.11508840 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.11705754 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.11845558 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.12353872 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.12467712 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.12728529 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.12814803 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355

Ylla

09-02-2021, 03:13 PM

New:
Distance: 1.4954% / 0.01495448
58.0 Balkan
21.4 (Balto-)Slavic
20.6 Graeco-Roman

Hulu

09-02-2021, 03:15 PM

New:
Distance: 1.4954% / 0.01495448
58.0 Balkan
21.4 (Balto-)Slavic
20.6 Graeco-Roman

Can you post your distances as well?

Hulu

09-02-2021, 03:19 PM

Feichii I thought Scythians were slavs :D What's going on?

Ylla

09-02-2021, 03:25 PM

Can you post your distances as well?

0.03538030 Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.04005005 Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.04101422 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.04394667 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.04437721 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.04440964 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.04795064 Balkan:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12
0.04965170 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40
0.05140457 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.05515293 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.06979993 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.07725956 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.09010047 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.09274281 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.09323904 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.09461919 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.09936176 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.10074751 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.10584479 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.10956682 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.10978186 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.11220725 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.11360111 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.11501237 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.11502387 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486

Jana

09-02-2021, 03:49 PM

Feichii I thought Scythians were slavs :D What's going on?

Thee samples were just culturally Scythian, but genetically Thraco-Dacians (Getae) from modern day Moldova. Here is how they plot:

Distance to: Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy192

0.03169307 Greek_Thessaly
0.03236805 Italian_Umbria
0.03310280 Albanian
0.03331736 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03349351 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03365052 Italian_Tuscany
0.03423865 Rumelia_East
0.03517117 Greek_Macedonia
0.03527882 Italian_Marche
0.03528716 Italian_Piedmont
0.03541645 Italian_Molise
0.03715614 Swiss_Italian
0.03732558 Greek_Izmir
0.03799688 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03809921 Italian_Lazio
0.04098951 French_Corsica
0.04224728 Greek_Laconia
0.04279945 Italian_Apulia
0.04342588 Italian_Basilicata
0.04428309 Italian_Veneto
0.04431036 Italian_Lombardy
0.04501606 Gagauz
0.04506507 Italian_Bergamo
0.04658284 Italian_Liguria
0.04727592 Italian_Campania

Distance to: Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy197

0.03508769 Italian_Piedmont
0.03581699 Italian_Lombardy
0.03589006 Albanian
0.03589914 Greek_Thessaly
0.03630896 Italian_Liguria
0.03750384 Italian_Tuscany
0.03832955 Italian_Bergamo
0.03878050 Italian_Marche
0.03915111 French_Corsica
0.03992968 Swiss_Italian
0.04004753 Greek_Macedonia
0.04056858 Italian_Umbria
0.04087332 Italian_Veneto
0.04097041 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04164636 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.04208470 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04305593 Rumelia_East
0.04370819 Italian_Lazio
0.04478563 Italian_Molise
0.04653805 Italian_Abruzzo
0.04747629 Italian_Northeast
0.04955002 Greek_Izmir
0.04982042 Gagauz
0.04994660 Spanish_Menorca
0.05021852 Italian_Apulia

Same applies to this Cimmerian outlier from Ukraine, he looks like a Dacian.

Distance to: Balkan:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12

0.04459952 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.04489471 Albanian
0.04577516 Italian_Umbria
0.04580437 Rumelia_East
0.04597843 Italian_Tuscany
0.04643480 Greek_Thessaly
0.04716096 Italian_Piedmont
0.04736529 Swiss_Italian
0.04887154 Greek_Peloponnese
0.05061523 Italian_Veneto
0.05087463 Greek_Macedonia
0.05125617 Greek_Izmir
0.05149634 Italian_Marche
0.05235337 French_Corsica
0.05333978 Italian_Bergamo
0.05353315 Italian_Northeast
0.05436981 Italian_Molise
0.05474836 Greek_Laconia
0.05519933 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.05532008 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05535810 Italian_Lazio
0.05537445 Bulgarian
0.05537619 Italian_Lombardy
0.05769455 Gagauz
0.05848134 Macedonian

Szolad Hungarian samples I selected were Illyrian and Thracian as well. And of course, iron age Bulgarian and Croatian are obvious.

Not a Cop

09-02-2021, 08:23 PM

Very clean results.

Target: R_scaled
Distance: 1.4569% / 0.01456929
70.4 (Balto-)Slavic
15.2 Germanic
14.4 Finnic_like

WeirdLookingFellow

09-02-2021, 08:35 PM

Target: Fellow_scaled (with extra balkan samples)
Distance: 1.5885% / 0.01588485
38.6 (Balto-)Slavic
28.4 Balkan
15.0 Germanic
12.6 Graeco-Roman
4.4 Turkic
1.0 Celtic_like

Target: Fellow_scaled (without)
Distance: 1.6763% / 0.01676281
37.0 (Balto-)Slavic
20.4 Balkan
17.8 Graeco-Roman
13.4 Germanic
7.4 Celtic_like
4.0 Turkic

Target: Fellow_scaled (no imperial roman samples)
Distance: 1.6205% / 0.01620519
42.6 Balkan
38.8 (Balto-)Slavic
12.6 Germanic
6.0 Turkic

Distance to: Fellow_scaled
0.05758396 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.05860284 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.05914596 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.05951685 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.06342517 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.06424512 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.06426181 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.06498782 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.06526272 Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.06587227 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.06607272 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.06639015 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.06643818 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.06686109 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.06858712 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.06913960 Balkan:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.06945890 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.06959951 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.07059710 Balkan:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12
0.07333501 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.07450084 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.07454891 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.07756456 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.08078430 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.08313038 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316

Peterski

09-02-2021, 08:47 PM

(...) In the end Bell Beaker descended from Corded Ware and the Irish are closer to other Northwestern Europeans than they are to any Continental Celtic sample.

Continental Celtic samples from Northwestern France are going to be close to the Irish.

Northwestern France is also part of this NW European, CWC-descended, population cluster.

I even have e.g. a kit 100% from Maine-et-Loire which clusters with British populations.

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Northeastern France however is more Neolithic-shifted. "Southern" admixture spread north along the Rhine River, that's probably one of the reasons why.

Damião de Góis

09-02-2021, 09:35 PM

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 3.2685% / 0.03268477
63.0 Celtic_like
24.0 Graeco-Roman
9.4 Balkan
3.6 Germanic

Roy

09-02-2021, 09:49 PM

I don't know how to use it.

Lucas

09-02-2021, 09:56 PM

I don't know how to use it.

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/howtouse.htm

PT Tagus

09-02-2021, 11:38 PM

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 3.7547% / 0.03754684
68.0 Celtic_like
31.8 Graeco-Roman
0.2 Turkic

rothaer

09-03-2021, 07:00 AM

rothaer

09-03-2021, 07:04 AM

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 3.2685% / 0.03268477
63.0 Celtic_like
24.0 Graeco-Roman
9.4 Balkan
3.6 Germanic

A good cross check for where there shall be scored zero Slavic (a Portuguese).

frankhammer

09-03-2021, 10:51 AM

Target: frankhammer_scaled
Distance: 2.0374% / 0.02037422
53.0 Celtic_like
46.2 Germanic
0.8 (Balto-)Slavic

rothaer

09-03-2021, 12:36 PM

Here a number of Davidskis modern average scaled pops:

https://i.imgur.com/LWXtMMT.jpg

Jana

09-03-2021, 01:58 PM

Thanks rothaer! :thumbsup: Looks cool. G25 averages aren't perfect (far from it), but for the most part results look sensible :)

Jana

09-03-2021, 02:03 PM

German average scoring Balkanite bothers me though, and can indicate why Noricum gets 25% and zero Keltic.

There's an overlap between northern Paleo-Balkan samples (like iron age Croatia) and central Euro Kelts to some degree. Because these northern Illyrians were probably quite Celtic/Urnfield/Bell Beaker influenced in contrast to the Illyrians proprie dicti - southern Illyrians. Some even today don't classify Dalmatian-Panonnian tribes as Illyrians. It was just a generic umbrella name Greeks gave to all tribes north-west of them in the end, so we don't really know how closely related or not they were.

If you look at genetic composition of IA Croatia it's mix of Dutch Bell Beaker + Balkan neolithic. Which is why some Germans for example can get inflated Balkan.

Upcoming Slovenian (early)IA samples will be even more northern, close to some IA French it seems.
I'd be curious will they be considered archeologically Celtic or Illyrian as both lived in Slovenia, and they apparently come from few different locations.

rothaer

09-03-2021, 04:59 PM

Luke35

09-03-2021, 05:51 PM

To add to the "German's scoring Balkan dilemma", here is my mother's result. As many know, she is West German + minor English (1/8). She plots well to the west of the G25 German average, so I am surprised how she scores on this calc.

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.9756% / 0.00975617
67.2 Germanic
27.2 Balkan
4.4 (Balto-)Slavic
1.2 Celtic_like

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Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.9756% / 0.00975617
27.2 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
21.8 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
14.8 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
12.2 Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
9.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
5.0 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
4.4 Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
4.4 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
1.0 Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.2 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111

Jana

09-03-2021, 06:37 PM

Yes, it shows Balkan leaking to Celtic. This IA Croatian sample is legit though, it's north Italian like and other BA samples were all like that. There are couple more Illyrians from Hungary with similar genetic profile and even one of those Daco-Thracians from Moldova was similar to that as well. Just proves Paleo Balkan people were genetically diverse.

You can try modeling your mother with IA French samples as Keltic proxy though, I didn't use them for various reasons, but for west German with minor English they may prove a good fit.

noricum

09-04-2021, 07:47 PM

German average scoring Balkanite bothers me though, and can indicate why Noricum gets 25% and zero Keltic.
I'd be curious will they be considered archeologically Celtic or Illyrian as both lived in Slovenia, and they apparently come from few different locations.

My results are very Slovenian like, when compared to Rothaers list - just a little more German shifted and less Slavic - which sounds spot on.
Yet both SLO and me are seriously lacking Celtic, by all logic. So it might be that Balkan eats up Celtic?

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.3596% / 0.01359569
47.2 (Balto-)Slavic
25.8 Balkan
21.4 Germanic
5.6 Graeco-Roman

Fully agreed to that first mentioned bothering. A strange scoring of that German average.
Fun fact: Czechs have higher Germanic than Austrians, but that might well be applicable imo.

Separating Austria in East and West in these calculators might be a good idea. Though small the genetic difference would justify this imo.

Jana

09-04-2021, 07:56 PM

My results are very Slovenian like, when compared to Rothaers list - just a little more German shifted and less Slavic - which sounds spot on.
Yet both SLO and me are seriously lacking Celtic, by all logic. So it might be that Balkan eats up Celtic?

Seems so, yes. Could you post your results after removing all Balkan samples except Bulgarian IA?

noricum

09-04-2021, 08:56 PM

Seems so, yes. Could you post your results after removing all Balkan samples except Bulgarian IA?

Sure, works good for me, but then Eastern Germany gets more Celtic than Western Germany, which is a little odd to me.

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.5412% / 0.01541159
46.4 (Balto-)Slavic
27.8 Germanic
11.0 Graeco-Roman
8.8 Balkan
6.0 Celtic_like

Target: German
Distance: 0.5277% / 0.00527717
64.4 Germanic
15.2 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Balkan
7.4 Celtic_like
3.8 Graeco-Roman

Target: German_East
Distance: 0.6647% / 0.00664707
39.2 (Balto-)Slavic
28.0 Germanic
24.0 Celtic_like
7.0 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Balkan

Jana

09-04-2021, 10:35 PM

Sure, works good for me, but then Eastern Germany gets more Celtic than Western Germany, which is a little odd to me.

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.5412% / 0.01541159
46.4 (Balto-)Slavic
27.8 Germanic
11.0 Graeco-Roman
8.8 Balkan
6.0 Celtic_like

Target: German
Distance: 0.5277% / 0.00527717
64.4 Germanic
15.2 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Balkan
7.4 Celtic_like
3.8 Graeco-Roman

Target: German_East
Distance: 0.6647% / 0.00664707
39.2 (Balto-)Slavic
28.0 Germanic
24.0 Celtic_like
7.0 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Balkan

Well, afaik German average isn't limited to west Germany, includes eastern Germans too, all regions actually. East German samples are from Leipzig if I am not mistaken, so not that northern and some Celtic is to be expected. If you compare them with eg. results of user rothaer wife who is north-eastern German from Mecklenburg and scores 0% Celtic you realize there is a cline in the east too.

Ajeje Brazorf

09-05-2021, 01:50 PM

Well, afaik German average isn't limited to west Germany, includes eastern Germans too, all regions actually. East German samples are from Leipzig if I am not mistaken, so not that northern and some Celtic is to be expected. If you compare them with eg. results of user rothaer wife who is north-eastern German from Mecklenburg and scores 0% Celtic you realize there is a cline in the east too.

German PCA

https://i.imgur.com/eJ496aA.png

Ajeje Brazorf

09-05-2021, 01:51 PM

delete

noricum

09-05-2021, 06:21 PM

hazmatnik

09-06-2021, 12:07 AM

Target: grandma_scaled
Distance: 1.9860% / 0.01985967
43.4 (Balto-)Slavic
41.4 Balkan
13.0 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Turkic
1.0 Germanic

Target: grandpa_scaled
Distance: 1.9252% / 0.01925242
47.6 (Balto-)Slavic
26.0 Graeco-Roman
24.8 Balkan
1.6 Turkic

Result based on my new G25 coords based on WGS kit

Target: hazmatnik_scaled
Distance: 1.9101% / 0.01910141
52.4 (Balto-)Slavic
23.8 Balkan
23.8 Graeco-Roman

And my result based on my old G25 coordinates (from FTDNA kit)

Target: hazmatnikold_scaled
Distance: 1.9799% / 0.01979874
49.6 (Balto-)Slavic
29.2 Balkan
21.2 Graeco-Roman

chrisbab

09-09-2021, 02:35 AM

Target: ChrisMom_scaled
Distance: 2.4182% / 0.02418214
42.8 (Balto-)Slavic
41.6 Graeco-Roman
7.2 Celtic_like
4.8 Finnic_like
2.4 Balkan
1.2 Turkic

Target: ChrisB_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.7205% / 0.01720511
40.8 (Balto-)Slavic
32.0 Graeco-Roman
21.6 Balkan
5.6 Turkic

Target: ChrisB_scaled
Distance: 1.8703% / 0.01870322
42.0 Graeco-Roman
35.4 (Balto-)Slavic
16.6 Celtic_like
3.2 Balkan
2.8 Turkic

rothaer

09-22-2021, 11:23 AM

Maybe making calc using this NW Euro sort of coords?

Would be interesting.

BUT: Few individuals do have this coords at all and also the genetic extent of that Celtic-Germanic PCA of Davidski is rather restricted. I'd probably already fall off that PCA.

rothaer

09-22-2021, 11:38 AM

With new Balkan references:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0355% / 0.01035514
42.6 Germanic
40.0 (Balto-)Slavic
16.6 Celtic_like
0.8 Finnic_like

Without new Balkan references:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0354% / 0.01035432
42.0 Germanic
40.0 (Balto-)Slavic
17.0 Celtic_like
1.0 Finnic_like

So no notable difference for me. But okay, it was about differences for Albanians etc. mostly.

oszkar07

09-22-2021, 12:16 PM

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.1496% / 0.01149606
37.2 Germanic
26.0 (Balto-)Slavic
20.4 Balkan
10.4 Celtic_like
4.0 Graeco-Roman
2.0 Finnic_like

2 way split breakdown estimate

British side : 47.6 %
37.2 Germanic
10.4 Celtic_like

Hungarian side: 46.4%
26.0 (Balto-)Slavic
20.4 Balkan

Undetermined
4.0 Graeco-Roman
2.0 Finnic_like

hazmatnik

09-22-2021, 08:40 PM

My paternal aunt.

Target: Aunt_scaled
Distance: 1.4138% / 0.01413750
46.8 (Balto-)Slavic
28.4 Balkan
21.0 Graeco-Roman
2.4 Finnic_like
1.0 Germanic
0.4 Turkic

MandM

09-23-2021, 06:55 AM

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.3731% / 0.01373116
41.8 (Balto-)Slavic
23.4 Balkan
20.2 Graeco-Roman
10.0 Celtic_like
4.4 Finnic_like
0.2 Germanic

Luke35

10-02-2021, 05:10 PM

Ph2ter has a new ancestry analysis method for 50/50 mixed people, it's called 'Admix decomposition'. He gives you a set of G25 coordinates for each half, and also a heat map.

Here are my results using Feiichy's calculator:

My paternal side:

Target: Mr.G_East
Distance: 0.9241% / 0.00924108
35.6 (Balto-)Slavic
24.6 Balkan
15.0 Graeco-Roman
14.2 Germanic
9.2 Turkic
0.8 Celtic_like
0.6 Finnic_like

-------------------------

My maternal side:

Target: Mr.G_West
Distance: 1.5476% / 0.01547618
81.2 Germanic
8.6 Celtic_like
6.2 Balkan
4.0 (Balto-)Slavic

And the corresponding map that he made for me:

https://i.imgur.com/3pdv4Ab.png

Gergő Marosvári

10-03-2021, 05:47 PM

Target: Gergő_scaled
Distance: 2.6845% / 0.02684505
64.4 (Balto-)Slavic
18.4 Graeco-Roman
7.8 Germanic
6.6 Celtic_like
2.8 Turkic

Peterski

12-22-2021, 04:48 PM

No adc is required, keep it 0.

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Feiichy%20Slavic%20G25%20ancient%20calculator.htm

The link doesn't work.

rothaer

12-22-2021, 05:11 PM

The link doesn't work.

Lukasz erased all G25 Vahaduos on his site(!). :(

But I saved the source data, so you can run it nevertheless here: https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111,0.124067,0. 151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0.005857,0.001175, 0.002308,0.020861,0.02442,-0.012342,0.00015,-0.01665,-0.003165,0.014658,-0.009546,-0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006 059,-0.004437,-0.005904,-0.005269
Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112,0.133173,0. 123895,0.077687,0.042313,0.052625,0.002231,0.00282 ,0.000462,0.016157,0.01549,-0.011692,-0.010641,-0.00223,0.004404,0.004479,0.006895,0.006258,-0.000253,0.003771,0.014507,-0.007736,-0.002102,0.003204,-0.00494,-0.001676
Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119,0.121791,0.14014 3,0.05242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.00 1154,0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143, 0.056191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065 ,0.046386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.00 5769,0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412,0.127482,0.14 319,0.055437,0.032946,0.035391,0.009203,0.014806,-0.001154,-0.001841,0.010934,0.007957,0.008692,-0.018583,-0.018854,0.0076,0.016176,0.011865,-0.00266,0.004525,0.003877,-0.003244,-0.00371,-0.003821,0.019039,-0.004071
Celtic_like:DEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6,0.12862,0.128972,0 .065996,0.053941,0.03416,0.018128,0.00094,-0.002769,0.002863,0.001822,-0.006333,0.011989,-0.003865,-0.015001,0.015065,0.00305,-0.004303,-0.001394,0.002891,0.002751,0.007487,-0.003339,-0.004067,0.001446,-0.006107
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.06 4488,0.054264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077, 0.002659,0.008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.133 034,0.069013,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0 .013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:DEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491 ,0.05506,0.043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.0002 31,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.13303 4,0.064865,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008 769,0.002863,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.12694 1,0.071653,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.00 1385,0.003477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988, 0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019, 0.065242,0.047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0 .061848,0.038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143 ,0.060716,0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.01 5692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491 ,0.071653,0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.13506 5,0.062979,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017 307,0.003068,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.13709 6,0.04714,0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.01 1999,0.010431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.127 957,0.067127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0. 014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.129 988,0.078818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0 .006692,0.005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599

mariusz99

12-22-2021, 08:14 PM

Target: Mariusz_scaled
Distance: 1.4094% / 0.01409401
35.6 (Balto-)Slavic
27.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
9.0 GermanicEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
8.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
7.8 GermanicEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
6.6 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
3.2 Turkic
2.0 Graeco-Roman
0.4 Balkan

Target: Mariusz_scaled
Distance: 1.5114% / 0.01511363 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.6 (Balto-)Slavic
24.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
12.4 GermanicEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
11.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
8.0 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
4.6 GermanicEU_MA_ACD_STR_355

Turkic is new, I didn't expect so much Germanic in my case.

alexmegas777

12-23-2021, 08:40 AM

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 1.7587% / 0.01758680
37.8 Graeco-Roman
25.6 (Balto-)Slavic
21.4 Balkan
9.2 GermanicEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
3.0 Celtic_like
2.0 GermanicEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
1.0 Turkic

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 1.7945% / 0.01794483 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Graeco-Roman
30.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.2 Balkan
9.8 GermanicEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6

Jana

12-23-2021, 12:11 PM

updated!

Celtic:Gallic_scaled,0.128532615,0.140455538,0.055 944423,0.028821538,0.044173808,0.009965,0.00032530 8,0.002848962,0.012460231,0.018805385,-0.001711269,0.007821962,-0.015111962,-0.010962192,0.013488615,0.001764346,-0.006464038,0.003664231,0.002982885,-0.000182731,0.002759577,0.003329038,-0.003086,-0.004134038,-0.000667769
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064 488,0.054 264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0 .008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.1330 34,0.0690 13,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491, 0.05506,0 .043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.000231,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.133034 ,0.064865 ,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.0028 63,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.126941 ,0.071653 ,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003 477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0 .06939,0. 051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0 .065242,0 .047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0. 061848,0. 038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143, 0.060716, 0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491, 0.071653, 0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.135065 ,0.062979 ,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.0030 68,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.137096 ,0.04714, 0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010 431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.1259 26,0.075 424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.1279 57,0.067 127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0.014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.1299 88,0.078 818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0 .005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%,0.126344,0.14319,0.054682,0 .028747,0.041854,0.011713,-0.002585,-0.000923,0.011044,0.019864,-0.00065,0.004346,-0.005798,-0.009496,-0.002443,0.015248,0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.005 878,0.006613,0.01014,-0.002958,-0.006748,-0.003233
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%,0.125205,0.146236,0.058454,0 .019057,0.0437,0.004462,0.000705,0.004384,0.011453 ,0.026606,-0.000487,0.008393,-0.015907,-0.00812,0.004479,0.001724,0.001956,0.0019,0.000754 ,0.001751,-0.000499,0.004575,-0.001849,0.002892,-0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%,0.132035,0.141159,0.062602,0 .02584,0.041546,0.002789,-0.001175,0.003461,0.011249,0.02278,-0.001299,0.007943,-0.018285,-0.007156,0.003257,0.001458,0.005737,-0.00114,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.000998,-0.000866,0.003204,0.001807,0.003353
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%,0.126344,0.145221,0.048649,0 .025517,0.038469,0.00502,-0.002115,0.003923,0.011862,0.018224,-0.007145,0.005095,-0.01442,-0.025047,0.009772,0.016176,0.018123,0.004307,-0.003142,-0.003126,0.004118,-0.000124,-0.000123,0.003133,-0.000479
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%,0.130897,0.147252,0.050911,0 .023902,0.044008,0.012829,0.00658,0.004154,0.00429 5,0.021504,0.002273,0.01139,-0.012339,-0.006055,0.013979,-0.004375,-0.021383,0.003041,0.000251,-0.001626,0,0.006183,0.00037,-0.007109,0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%,0.129758,0.142174,0.046009,0 .017119,0.044316,0.00251,0.00235,-0.000692,0.01268,0.009294,0.00065,0.004646,-0.015015,-0.018029,0.000407,0.017369,0.012386,0.000127,0.001 383,0.002751,0.005989,0.002226,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.003712

Jana

12-23-2021, 12:14 PM

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 1.6840% / 0.01684035

61.2 (Balto-)Slavic
17.0 Balkan
15.6 Graeco-Roman
3.8 Germanic
1.6 Turkic
0.8 Celtic

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 1.8202% / 0.01820183 | R2P

62.0 (Balto-)Slavic
38.0 Balkan

Impaler

12-23-2021, 12:17 PM

Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.9451% / 0.01945110

32.2 Graeco-Roman
24.2 Balkan
16.0 (Balto-)Slavic
14.4 Germanic
13.2 Turkic

rothaer

12-23-2021, 12:32 PM

I get this with the updated (3.0?) source:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0690% / 0.01069042
44.8 Germanic
40.2 (Balto-)Slavic
14.0 Celtic
1.0 Finnic_like

EDIT:
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.0118% / 0.01179546 | R2P
60.7 Germanic
39.3 (Balto-)Slavic

Jana

12-23-2021, 12:33 PM

I get this with the updated (3.0?) source:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0690% / 0.01069042
44.8 Germanic
40.2 (Balto-)Slavic
14.0 Celtic
1.0 Finnic_like

Looks plausible for you, does it not?

rothaer

12-23-2021, 12:48 PM

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 1.8202% / 0.01820183 | R2P

62.0 (Balto-)Slavic
38.0 Balkan

Can you tell how you do get the two-way result? When I run it, restricted to 3 results, I get this. Inspite of aggregate is set to yes.

Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.01997215 52.40% Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480 + 47.60% (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.02009441 52.00% Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480 + 48.00% (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.02014389 55.60% Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480 + 44.40% (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009

Jana

12-23-2021, 12:56 PM

Can you tell how you do get the two-way result? When I run it, restricted to 3 results, I get this. Inspite of aggregate is set to yes.

Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.01997215 52.40% Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480 + 47.60% (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.02009441 52.00% Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480 + 48.00% (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.02014389 55.60% Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480 + 44.40% (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009

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Btw, I now added few more suitable Balto Slavic samples, see if anything changes for you:

Celtic:Gallic_scaled,0.128532615,0.140455538,0.055 944423,0.028821538,0.044173808,0.009965,0.00032530 8,0.002848962,0.012460231,0.018805385,-0.001711269,0.007821962,-0.015111962,-0.010962192,0.013488615,0.001764346,-0.006464038,0.003664231,0.002982885,-0.000182731,0.002759577,0.003329038,-0.003086,-0.004134038,-0.000667769
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064 488,0.054 264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0 .008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.1330 34,0.0690 13,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491, 0.05506,0 .043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.000231,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.133034 ,0.064865 ,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.0028 63,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.126941 ,0.071653 ,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003 477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0 .06939,0. 051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0 .065242,0 .047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0. 061848,0. 038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143, 0.060716, 0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491, 0.071653, 0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.135065 ,0.062979 ,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.0030 68,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.137096 ,0.04714, 0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010 431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.1259 26,0.075 424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.1279 57,0.067 127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0.014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.1299 88,0.078 818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0 .005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%,0.126344,0.14319,0.054682,0 .028747,0.041854,0.011713,-0.002585,-0.000923,0.011044,0.019864,-0.00065,0.004346,-0.005798,-0.009496,-0.002443,0.015248,0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.005 878,0.006613,0.01014,-0.002958,-0.006748,-0.003233
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%,0.125205,0.146236,0.058454,0 .019057,0.0437,0.004462,0.000705,0.004384,0.011453 ,0.026606,-0.000487,0.008393,-0.015907,-0.00812,0.004479,0.001724,0.001956,0.0019,0.000754 ,0.001751,-0.000499,0.004575,-0.001849,0.002892,-0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%,0.132035,0.141159,0.062602,0 .02584,0.041546,0.002789,-0.001175,0.003461,0.011249,0.02278,-0.001299,0.007943,-0.018285,-0.007156,0.003257,0.001458,0.005737,-0.00114,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.000998,-0.000866,0.003204,0.001807,0.003353
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%,0.126344,0.145221,0.048649,0 .025517,0.038469,0.00502,-0.002115,0.003923,0.011862,0.018224,-0.007145,0.005095,-0.01442,-0.025047,0.009772,0.016176,0.018123,0.004307,-0.003142,-0.003126,0.004118,-0.000124,-0.000123,0.003133,-0.000479
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%,0.130897,0.147252,0.050911,0 .023902,0.044008,0.012829,0.00658,0.004154,0.00429 5,0.021504,0.002273,0.01139,-0.012339,-0.006055,0.013979,-0.004375,-0.021383,0.003041,0.000251,-0.001626,0,0.006183,0.00037,-0.007109,0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%,0.129758,0.142174,0.046009,0 .017119,0.044316,0.00251,0.00235,-0.000692,0.01268,0.009294,0.00065,0.004646,-0.015015,-0.018029,0.000407,0.017369,0.012386,0.000127,0.001 383,0.002751,0.005989,0.002226,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.003712
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135 065,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0 .020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0. 125926,0.085606,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.01762 6,0.014307,0.003886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466,0.111547,0.11 4755,0.065242,0.073644,0.029852,0.021475,0.018801, 0.002769,-0.007158,-0.021139,-0.016888,-0.010641,0.019029,0.026011,-0.011129,-0.001591,0.008345,-0.000887,0.01345,0.005127,-0.000624,-0.008161,-0.001356,-0.005422,-0.015807
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438,0.134311,0.127 957,0.078441,0.079458,0.02739,0.033746,0.006815,0. 015692,0.001227,-0.031709,0.001299,-0.011839,0.013528,0.022157,-0.011943,-0.001326,-0.000782,0.000887,0.009679,0.012631,-0.018467,0.001113,0.001109,-0.01205,-0.009939
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK440,0.127482,0.118 817,0.07995,0.079781,0.049855,0.038208,0.018331,0. 017538,0.007567,-0.005285,-0.018512,-0.02278,0.008325,0.035369,-0.00095,-0.006762,-0.005085,0.002914,-0.00352,-0.008379,0.006239,-0.009398,-0.000863,-0.017111,-0.000599
(Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29,0.134311,0.1238 95,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.0 1223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826

Jana

12-23-2021, 12:58 PM

newest for me

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 1.6795% / 0.01679476

59.6 (Balto-)Slavic
16.8 Balkan
15.2 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Germanic
2.6 Celtic
1.6 Turkic

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 1.7685% / 0.01768491 | R2P

40.2 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
22.2 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
19.8 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
17.8 (Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29

Luke35

12-23-2021, 01:09 PM

Thanks Feiichy.

Results with the newest code:

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 0.9200% / 0.00920038
50.0 Germanic
22.0 Balkan
19.4 (Balto-)Slavic
5.4 Graeco-Roman
3.2 Turkic

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8745% / 0.01874486
37.4 (Balto-)Slavic
24.8 Germanic
17.0 Balkan
13.2 Graeco-Roman
7.6 Turkic

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Reduced - 2 population for my father's theoretical coordinates, loses the Germanic, but distance increases.

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.9359% / 0.02935934 | R2P
50.4 (Balto-)Slavic
49.6 Balkan

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.9359% / 0.02935934 | R2P
34.0 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
19.2 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466
16.2 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
15.0 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
13.8 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
1.6 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.2 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%

17571imre

12-23-2021, 01:23 PM

Target: Imre_scaled
Distance: 0.8789% / 0.00878857
40.8 (Balto-)Slavic
31.6 Balkan
12.2 Celtic
10.2 Graeco-Roman
3.0 Germanic
2.2 Turkic

Target: Imre_scaled
Distance: 1.0293% / 0.01029310 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.2 Balkan
41.6 (Balto-)Slavic
7.8 Graeco-Roman
4.4 Germanic

Dunai

12-23-2021, 03:02 PM

rothaer

12-23-2021, 03:42 PM

My results with the newest code. Unexpectedly Slavic decreases a little bit in the R2P mode. But the results seem absolutely plausible.

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.0104% / 0.01043256
41.8 Germanic
40.1 (Balto-)Slavic
17.2 Celtic
0.9 Finnic_like

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.0118% / 0.01179546 | R2P
60.7 Germanic
39.3 (Balto-)Slavic

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:42 PM

selected run for Prague Czechs:

Target: Czech_Prague
Distance: 0.9550% / 0.00954985

43.2 (Balto-)Slavic
30.0 Germanic
26.8 Celtic

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:43 PM

Only thing that changed more noticeably is that my Balkan increased with 5%, while Celtic decreased with same amount:

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.8141% / 0.00814117
37.2 (Balto-)Slavic
31.4 Germanic
15.8 Balkan
7.4 Graeco-Roman
6.0 Turkic
2.2 Celtic

There is huge overlap between Balkan and Celtic genetically, in your case you can treat Balkan as native Panonnian.

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:46 PM

Bosnian academic average:

Target: Bosnian
Distance: 0.7658% / 0.00765779

52.0 (Balto-)Slavic
25.6 Balkan
18.8 Graeco-Roman
3.6 Germanic

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:48 PM

My results with the newest code. Unexpected that Slavic decreases a little bit in the R2P mode. But the results seem absolutely plausible.

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.0104% / 0.01043256
41.8 Germanic
40.1 (Balto-)Slavic
17.2 Celtic
0.9 Finnic_like

selected run for Prague Czechs:

Target: Czech_Prague
Distance: 0.9550% / 0.00954985

43.2 (Balto-)Slavic
30.0 Germanic
26.8 Celtic

Very similar! :)

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:50 PM

Germans from Saxony:

Target: German_Leipzig
Distance: 0.7982% / 0.00798158

38.2 (Balto-)Slavic
35.4 Celtic
26.4 Germanic

Hulu

12-23-2021, 03:52 PM

I don't get the option to reduce to 2 population, it goes from No to 3.

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.4000% / 0.02400006
61.8 Balkan
20.8 Graeco-Roman
15.4 (Balto-)Slavic
2.0 Turkic

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03768554 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.04306871 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.04683797 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.05114012 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.05371077 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.05395133 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.05604211 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05604211 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05756484 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.05943063 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.06065017 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.06107023 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.06374038 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.06521830 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.06581035 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.06723660 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.06876039 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.07710375 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.08210686 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.08662855 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.09080969 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.09086173 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.09139930 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.09846415 Celtic:Gallic_scaled

Hulu

12-23-2021, 03:53 PM

Germans from Saxony:

Target: German_Leipzig
Distance: 0.7982% / 0.00798158

38.2 (Balto-)Slavic
35.4 Celtic
26.4 Germanic

Maybe you are adding Germans to BaltoSlavic. Or are they that much slavic?

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:54 PM

far northern Russians

Target: Russian_Pinega
Distance: 1.9107% / 0.01910670

59.6 (Balto-)Slavic
40.4 Finnic_like

Jana

12-23-2021, 03:57 PM

Maybe you are adding Germans to BaltoSlavic. Or are they that much slavic?

Slavic samples are free from Germanic input. Yeah they are, see user Rothaer who is even more Slavic :D
But their Germanic is low, probably because their German settler side was not northern German like, thus heavy Celtic admix.

They seem to be mix of central-southern German settlers and Slavs.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

12-23-2021, 03:58 PM

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 3.2777% / 0.03277676
48.4 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
36.4 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
7.2 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
4.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
3.4 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.6 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196

Target: Viriato_Wife_scaled
Distance: 4.0985% / 0.04098474
43.4 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
29.8 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
8.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
8.4 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
8.2 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
1.4 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228

https://i.imgur.com/QgEVWaK.png

rothaer

12-23-2021, 04:00 PM

Very similar! :)

Yeah, I already got scared when I saw. :)

Jana

12-23-2021, 04:06 PM

Target: Serbian_Belgrade
Distance: 0.4601% / 0.00460051

46.6 (Balto-)Slavic
25.0 Graeco-Roman
24.4 Balkan
3.8 Germanic
0.2 Finnic_like

Target: Macedonian_Skopje
Distance: 0.6977% / 0.00697749

46.2 (Balto-)Slavic
37.4 Graeco-Roman
16.4 Balkan

Target: Croatian_Zagreb
Distance: 0.2579% / 0.00257939

51.6 (Balto-)Slavic
24.4 Balkan
12.8 Germanic
10.8 Graeco-Roman
0.4 Celtic

Target: Slovenian_Ljubljana
Distance: 0.3220% / 0.00321993

55.2 (Balto-)Slavic
30.0 Balkan
8.0 Germanic
5.2 Graeco-Roman
1.6 Turkic

Jana

12-23-2021, 04:07 PM

Labeling can be an issue since all these IA Croatian samples have huge overlap with central European Celts and we have large lack of southern Balkan ancient samples except that sole IA Bulgarian.

rothaer

12-23-2021, 04:09 PM

Jana

12-23-2021, 04:09 PM

Target: Albanian
Distance: 0.9240% / 0.00924032

46.0 Balkan
30.0 Graeco-Roman
24.0 (Balto-)Slavic

Jana

12-23-2021, 04:13 PM

Austrians (likely from Vienna), fit is extremely tight.

Target: Austrian
Distance: 0.1166% / 0.00116581

31.0 Germanic
30.8 (Balto-)Slavic
18.6 Celtic
17.8 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Balkan

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

12-23-2021, 04:13 PM

Distances:

Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.03842092 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.03924374 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.04316638 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.04528609 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.04556092 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.04584710 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.05071065 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.05080299 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05080299 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05165598 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.05205641 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.05219006 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.05581390 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.05604036 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.05633310 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.05887581 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.06329395 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06431832 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.06483369 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.07057514 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.07187124 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.07253724 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.08039418 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.08219571 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.08980139 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10

Distance to: Viriato_Wife_scaled
0.04974026 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.05083579 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.05205850 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.05250041 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.05427560 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.05478769 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.05568199 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.05694868 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05694868 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05736044 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.05756140 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05855114 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.05904833 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.05907137 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.06092384 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.06271838 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.06343496 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.06903347 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.07017402 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.07237087 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.07718976 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.07890321 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.08243473 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.08373293 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.08385087 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355

Distance to: Viriato_Father_scaled
0.03951726 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.04249179 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.04328583 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.04434080 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.04434080 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.04573812 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.04616389 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.04641516 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.04704045 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.04722969 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.04766216 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.04803746 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.05049795 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.05051357 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.05172166 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.05178957 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.05290729 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.05422475 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.05609011 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05971076 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.06929652 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.06964729 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.07315441 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.08217328 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.08265854 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

12-23-2021, 04:18 PM

This demontrates how West Med these Croatian IA samples are. They are preferred by Iberians before Graeco-Roman!

Genetically they have the closest distances to modern North Italians and Iberian samples, hence the affinity.

mariusz99

12-23-2021, 04:36 PM

Target: Mariusz_scaled
Distance: 1.5114% / 0.01511363 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.0 (Balto-)Slavic
25.0 Germanic

Hulu

12-23-2021, 04:59 PM

Does the slavicness increase on the Croatians samples by date?

PT Tagus

12-23-2021, 05:10 PM

Target: Endovelicus
Distance: 4.2100% / 0.04210009
34.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
32.6 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
31.4 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.8 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.4 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76

Distance to: Endovelicus
0.04982575 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.05274416 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.05373962 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.05438671 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.05768616 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.05835994 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.05836019 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05836019 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05885230 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.05991727 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.06094498 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.06178605 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.06334481 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.06635094 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.06684035 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.06728681 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.06865641 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06989420 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.07100838 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.07198770 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.07482291 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.07503959 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.08305121 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.08338788 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.09530333 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10

noricum

12-23-2021, 05:48 PM

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.2047% / 0.01204714
42.6 (Balto-)Slavic
33.2 Balkan
22.4 Germanic
1.8 Graeco-Roman

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.2317% / 0.01231745 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 (Balto-)Slavic
36.0 Balkan
22.0 Germanic

Distance to: noricum_scaled
0.04656467 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.05036160 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.05075569 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.05145285 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.05174393 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05283283 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.05445123 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.05493693 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.05580246 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.05715949 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.05732077 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.05732512 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.05754403 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.05885541 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05902464 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.06065978 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06217691 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.06248426 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.06255172 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.06415995 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.06451396 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.06517303 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.06629472 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06683579 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.06705989 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001

alexmegas777

12-23-2021, 06:26 PM

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 1.7491% / 0.01749058
37.8 Graeco-Roman
27.0 (Balto-)Slavic
25.0 Balkan
8.8 Germanic
0.8 Turkic
0.6 Finnic_like
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 1.7888% / 0.01788840 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.6 Graeco-Roman
30.2 (Balto-)Slavic
27.0 Balkan
9.2 Germanic

MandM

12-23-2021, 11:40 PM

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.9603% / 0.01960347 | ADC: 0.5x RC
62.2 Balkan
37.8 (Balto-)Slavic

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.3896% / 0.01389639 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 Balkan
38.2 (Balto-)Slavic
21.4 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Finnic_like

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.3000% / 0.01300018
41.8 Balkan
40.4 (Balto-)Slavic
15.0 Graeco-Roman
2.8 Finnic_like

Distance to: Milenko
0.04784121 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.05021674 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05021674 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05116257 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.05129195 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.05165165 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.05222746 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.05564997 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.05904020 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.06237095 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.06262552 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.06428223 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.06471300 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.06482560 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.06949877 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.07227656 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.07296904 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.07416623 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.07770502 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.07784219 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.07855413 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.08018255 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.08069330 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.08240626 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.08337870 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106

Jana

12-24-2021, 01:42 PM

Does the slavicness increase on the Croatians samples by date?

None of them have any Slavic admixture except one that is very atypical and plots with modern Balkanites (probably mislabeled migration era sample), but that one I didn't include.

Jana

12-24-2021, 01:45 PM

..

Could you try another run, by deleting all Balkan samples in the source except Bulgarian IA and adding these three additional for Celtic?

Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699,0.127482,0.152329,0.0 50534,0.005814,0.047701,0.00251,0.004465,0.011307, 0.02127,0.026606,-0.002598,0.006594,-0.009366,-0.004954,0.007736,-0.009149,-0.017602,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004627,0.000998,0.002349,-0.004067,-0.005543,-0.006347
Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701,0.126344,0.145221,0.0 39598,0.000646,0.038469,0.000279,0.00188,0.006923, 0.006954,0.018041,-0.003085,0.005845,-0.014717,0.004129,0.002579,-0.009679,-0.012386,0.007221,0.013575,-0.002876,0.000998,-0.004451,0.004067,-0.00253,-0.006586
Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708,0.134311,0.146236,0.0 49026,0.008075,0.043085,0.007809,0.001175,-0.000231,0.017589,0.021868,0.002273,0.007194,-0.007284,-0.008533,-0.005836,0.004508,0.019688,0.006461,0.004399,0.001 626,0.003369,0.001978,-0.010599,0.004579,-0.000359

Hulu

12-24-2021, 01:46 PM

None of them have any Slavic admixture except one that is very atypical and plots with modern Balkanites (probably mislabeled migration era sample), but that one I didn't include.

I figured date 815 must be year 815, is that correct? What years are they from?

Jana

12-24-2021, 01:54 PM

I figured date 815 must be year 815, is that correct? What years are they from?

Yes, BC! Those I used range from early to late Iron Age. There are some BA samples too but didn't include them (they are genetically very similar however)

Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832

Hulu

12-24-2021, 02:07 PM

^ oh BC. That small technicality :)

someonenotyou

12-24-2021, 04:10 PM

Target:
Distance: 1.0100% / 0.01010043
37.4 Germanic
32.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.4 Graeco-Roman
4.0 Turkic

Target:
Distance: 1.0100% / 0.01010038
19.6 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
17.0 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
16.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
12.6 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
12.2 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
5.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
4.2 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
3.8 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196
3.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
2.6 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
1.4 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
1.4 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.2 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89

Distance to:
0.04605327 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.04706317 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.04722509 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.04903726 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.04954203 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.05061664 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.05084629 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.05183022 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.05241937 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05247913 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.05321078 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.05479015 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.05626147 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.05636460 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.05637605 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05714285 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.05840341 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.05855971 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.05883719 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.05924098 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.05947944 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.05976895 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.05976895 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.06033406 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.06208008 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%

Gergő Marosvári

12-24-2021, 05:28 PM

Stearsolina!

Could you share your calculator coords here?
Because all of the unofficial calculators have been removed from Vahaduo and i'd love to run my Ancestry DNA G25 coords in the calculator.

Jana

12-24-2021, 05:49 PM

Stearsolina!

Could you share your calculator coords here?
Because all of the unofficial calculators have been removed from Vahaduo and i'd love to run my Ancestry DNA G25 coords in the calculator.

Of course!

Celtic:Gallic_scaled,0.128532615,0.140455538,0.055 944423,0.028821538,0.044173808,0.009965,0.00032530 8,0.002848962,0.012460231,0.018805385,-0.001711269,0.007821962,-0.015111962,-0.010962192,0.013488615,0.001764346,-0.006464038,0.003664231,0.002982885,-0.000182731,0.002759577,0.003329038,-0.003086,-0.004134038,-0.000667769
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064 488,0.054 264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0 .008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.1330 34,0.0690 13,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491, 0.05506,0 .043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.000231,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.133034 ,0.064865 ,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.0028 63,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.126941 ,0.071653 ,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003 477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0 .06939,0. 051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0 .065242,0 .047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0. 061848,0. 038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143, 0.060716, 0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491, 0.071653, 0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.135065 ,0.062979 ,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.0030 68,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.137096 ,0.04714, 0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010 431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.1259 26,0.075 424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.1279 57,0.067 127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0.014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.1299 88,0.078 818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0 .005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%,0.126344,0.14319,0.054682,0 .028747,0.041854,0.011713,-0.002585,-0.000923,0.011044,0.019864,-0.00065,0.004346,-0.005798,-0.009496,-0.002443,0.015248,0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.005 878,0.006613,0.01014,-0.002958,-0.006748,-0.003233
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%,0.125205,0.146236,0.058454,0 .019057,0.0437,0.004462,0.000705,0.004384,0.011453 ,0.026606,-0.000487,0.008393,-0.015907,-0.00812,0.004479,0.001724,0.001956,0.0019,0.000754 ,0.001751,-0.000499,0.004575,-0.001849,0.002892,-0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%,0.132035,0.141159,0.062602,0 .02584,0.041546,0.002789,-0.001175,0.003461,0.011249,0.02278,-0.001299,0.007943,-0.018285,-0.007156,0.003257,0.001458,0.005737,-0.00114,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.000998,-0.000866,0.003204,0.001807,0.003353
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%,0.126344,0.145221,0.048649,0 .025517,0.038469,0.00502,-0.002115,0.003923,0.011862,0.018224,-0.007145,0.005095,-0.01442,-0.025047,0.009772,0.016176,0.018123,0.004307,-0.003142,-0.003126,0.004118,-0.000124,-0.000123,0.003133,-0.000479
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%,0.130897,0.147252,0.050911,0 .023902,0.044008,0.012829,0.00658,0.004154,0.00429 5,0.021504,0.002273,0.01139,-0.012339,-0.006055,0.013979,-0.004375,-0.021383,0.003041,0.000251,-0.001626,0,0.006183,0.00037,-0.007109,0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%,0.129758,0.142174,0.046009,0 .017119,0.044316,0.00251,0.00235,-0.000692,0.01268,0.009294,0.00065,0.004646,-0.015015,-0.018029,0.000407,0.017369,0.012386,0.000127,0.001 383,0.002751,0.005989,0.002226,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.003712
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135 065,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0 .020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0. 125926,0.085606,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.01762 6,0.014307,0.003886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466,0.111547,0.11 4755,0.065242,0.073644,0.029852,0.021475,0.018801, 0.002769,-0.007158,-0.021139,-0.016888,-0.010641,0.019029,0.026011,-0.011129,-0.001591,0.008345,-0.000887,0.01345,0.005127,-0.000624,-0.008161,-0.001356,-0.005422,-0.015807
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438,0.134311,0.127 957,0.078441,0.079458,0.02739,0.033746,0.006815,0. 015692,0.001227,-0.031709,0.001299,-0.011839,0.013528,0.022157,-0.011943,-0.001326,-0.000782,0.000887,0.009679,0.012631,-0.018467,0.001113,0.001109,-0.01205,-0.009939
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK440,0.127482,0.118 817,0.07995,0.079781,0.049855,0.038208,0.018331,0. 017538,0.007567,-0.005285,-0.018512,-0.02278,0.008325,0.035369,-0.00095,-0.006762,-0.005085,0.002914,-0.00352,-0.008379,0.006239,-0.009398,-0.000863,-0.017111,-0.000599
(Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29,0.134311,0.1238 95,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.0 1223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826

Hulu

12-24-2021, 06:07 PM

Could you try another run, by deleting all Balkan samples in the source except Bulgarian IA and adding these three additional for Celtic?

Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699,0.127482,0.152329,0.0 50534,0.005814,0.047701,0.00251,0.004465,0.011307, 0.02127,0.026606,-0.002598,0.006594,-0.009366,-0.004954,0.007736,-0.009149,-0.017602,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004627,0.000998,0.002349,-0.004067,-0.005543,-0.006347
Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701,0.126344,0.145221,0.0 39598,0.000646,0.038469,0.000279,0.00188,0.006923, 0.006954,0.018041,-0.003085,0.005845,-0.014717,0.004129,0.002579,-0.009679,-0.012386,0.007221,0.013575,-0.002876,0.000998,-0.004451,0.004067,-0.00253,-0.006586
Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708,0.134311,0.146236,0.0 49026,0.008075,0.043085,0.007809,0.001175,-0.000231,0.017589,0.021868,0.002273,0.007194,-0.007284,-0.008533,-0.005836,0.004508,0.019688,0.006461,0.004399,0.001 626,0.003369,0.001978,-0.010599,0.004579,-0.000359

They came closer to me than Celtic Czech. Even closer than some Rome Imperial!

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03768554 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.04306871 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.05114012 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.05756484 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.06374038 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.07066078 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701
0.07521148 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.07710375 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.08210686 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.08662855 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.08681527 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
0.09080969 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.09086173 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.09139930 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.09846415 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.09952561 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.11508840 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.11845558 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.12353872 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.12728529 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.12814803 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.12828540 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.12855890 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.12924306 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486

Jana

12-24-2021, 06:13 PM

They came closer to me then Celtic Czech

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03768554 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.04306871 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.05114012 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.05756484 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.06374038 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.07066078 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701
0.07521148 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.07710375 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.08210686 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.08662855 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.08681527 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
0.09080969 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.09086173 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.09139930 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.09846415 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.09952561 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.11508840 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.11845558 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.12353872 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.12728529 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.12814803 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.12828540 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.12855890 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.12924306 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486

Yes, they are more southern shifted and have more overlap with Iron Age Croatians. That's why I didn't include them to get better differenation between Celtic and Balkan, but for Noricum as native Austrian they should be useful. I doubt his Balkan is real. IA Croatians look to be significantly Celtic influenced, genetically at least.

We really need Iron Age Albanians! I hear we might get some soon!

Luke35

12-24-2021, 06:42 PM

Could you try another run, by deleting all Balkan samples in the source except Bulgarian IA and adding these three additional for Celtic?

Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699,0.127482,0.152329,0.0 50534,0.005814,0.047701,0.00251,0.004465,0.011307, 0.02127,0.026606,-0.002598,0.006594,-0.009366,-0.004954,0.007736,-0.009149,-0.017602,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004627,0.000998,0.002349,-0.004067,-0.005543,-0.006347
Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701,0.126344,0.145221,0.0 39598,0.000646,0.038469,0.000279,0.00188,0.006923, 0.006954,0.018041,-0.003085,0.005845,-0.014717,0.004129,0.002579,-0.009679,-0.012386,0.007221,0.013575,-0.002876,0.000998,-0.004451,0.004067,-0.00253,-0.006586
Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708,0.134311,0.146236,0.0 49026,0.008075,0.043085,0.007809,0.001175,-0.000231,0.017589,0.021868,0.002273,0.007194,-0.007284,-0.008533,-0.005836,0.004508,0.019688,0.006461,0.004399,0.001 626,0.003369,0.001978,-0.010599,0.004579,-0.000359

My mother:

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1357% / 0.01135678
61.4 Germanic
30.6 Celtic
6.0 Graeco-Roman
2.0 (Balto-)Slavic

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1357% / 0.01135676
20.8 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
19.4 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
12.2 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
10.0 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
9.0 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
7.4 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
6.2 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
5.8 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
3.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
2.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
1.2 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
1.2 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.8 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28

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Distance to: Mr.G_mom_scaled
0.02778191 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.03344171 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.03502407 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.03506781 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.03983060 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.04017154 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.04021701 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.04039648 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.04364488 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.04388349 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.04428178 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.04429226 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.04570582 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.04583449 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.04731584 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05038718 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
0.05048639 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701
0.05196307 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05213642 Celtic:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.05329352 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.05590407 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.05795972 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.07627318 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.08004285 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.08283931 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001

Ylla

12-24-2021, 07:12 PM

Distance: 1.5801% / 0.01580145

52.2 Balkan
25.4 Graeco-Roman
22.4 (Balto-)Slavic

Gergő Marosvári

12-24-2021, 07:21 PM

Of course!

Celtic:Gallic_scaled,0.128532615,0.140455538,0.055 944423,0.028821538,0.044173808,0.009965,0.00032530 8,0.002848962,0.012460231,0.018805385,-0.001711269,0.007821962,-0.015111962,-0.010962192,0.013488615,0.001764346,-0.006464038,0.003664231,0.002982885,-0.000182731,0.002759577,0.003329038,-0.003086,-0.004134038,-0.000667769
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064 488,0.054 264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0 .008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.1330 34,0.0690 13,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491, 0.05506,0 .043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.000231,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.133034 ,0.064865 ,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.0028 63,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.126941 ,0.071653 ,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003 477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0 .06939,0. 051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0 .065242,0 .047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0. 061848,0. 038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143, 0.060716, 0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491, 0.071653, 0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.135065 ,0.062979 ,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.0030 68,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.137096 ,0.04714, 0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010 431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.1259 26,0.075 424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.1279 57,0.067 127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0.014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.1299 88,0.078 818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0 .005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%,0.126344,0.14319,0.054682,0 .028747,0.041854,0.011713,-0.002585,-0.000923,0.011044,0.019864,-0.00065,0.004346,-0.005798,-0.009496,-0.002443,0.015248,0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.005 878,0.006613,0.01014,-0.002958,-0.006748,-0.003233
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%,0.125205,0.146236,0.058454,0 .019057,0.0437,0.004462,0.000705,0.004384,0.011453 ,0.026606,-0.000487,0.008393,-0.015907,-0.00812,0.004479,0.001724,0.001956,0.0019,0.000754 ,0.001751,-0.000499,0.004575,-0.001849,0.002892,-0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%,0.132035,0.141159,0.062602,0 .02584,0.041546,0.002789,-0.001175,0.003461,0.011249,0.02278,-0.001299,0.007943,-0.018285,-0.007156,0.003257,0.001458,0.005737,-0.00114,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.000998,-0.000866,0.003204,0.001807,0.003353
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%,0.126344,0.145221,0.048649,0 .025517,0.038469,0.00502,-0.002115,0.003923,0.011862,0.018224,-0.007145,0.005095,-0.01442,-0.025047,0.009772,0.016176,0.018123,0.004307,-0.003142,-0.003126,0.004118,-0.000124,-0.000123,0.003133,-0.000479
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%,0.130897,0.147252,0.050911,0 .023902,0.044008,0.012829,0.00658,0.004154,0.00429 5,0.021504,0.002273,0.01139,-0.012339,-0.006055,0.013979,-0.004375,-0.021383,0.003041,0.000251,-0.001626,0,0.006183,0.00037,-0.007109,0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%,0.129758,0.142174,0.046009,0 .017119,0.044316,0.00251,0.00235,-0.000692,0.01268,0.009294,0.00065,0.004646,-0.015015,-0.018029,0.000407,0.017369,0.012386,0.000127,0.001 383,0.002751,0.005989,0.002226,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.003712
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135 065,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0 .020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0. 125926,0.085606,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.01762 6,0.014307,0.003886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466,0.111547,0.11 4755,0.065242,0.073644,0.029852,0.021475,0.018801, 0.002769,-0.007158,-0.021139,-0.016888,-0.010641,0.019029,0.026011,-0.011129,-0.001591,0.008345,-0.000887,0.01345,0.005127,-0.000624,-0.008161,-0.001356,-0.005422,-0.015807
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438,0.134311,0.127 957,0.078441,0.079458,0.02739,0.033746,0.006815,0. 015692,0.001227,-0.031709,0.001299,-0.011839,0.013528,0.022157,-0.011943,-0.001326,-0.000782,0.000887,0.009679,0.012631,-0.018467,0.001113,0.001109,-0.01205,-0.009939
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK440,0.127482,0.118 817,0.07995,0.079781,0.049855,0.038208,0.018331,0. 017538,0.007567,-0.005285,-0.018512,-0.02278,0.008325,0.035369,-0.00095,-0.006762,-0.005085,0.002914,-0.00352,-0.008379,0.006239,-0.009398,-0.000863,-0.017111,-0.000599
(Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29,0.134311,0.1238 95,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.0 1223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826

Thanks!

Target: Gergo_scaled
Distance: 1.9175% / 0.01917467
62.0 (Balto-)Slavic
24.0 Graeco-Roman
5.0 Germanic
4.0 Balkan
2.6 Celtic
2.2 Finnic_like
0.2 Turkic

oszkar07

12-25-2021, 07:30 AM

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.1086% / 0.01108616
33.6 Germanic
27.8 (Balto-)Slavic
20.8 Balkan
13.6 Celtic
2.4 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Finnic_like

cakmir7y

12-27-2021, 11:42 AM

Using newest coordinates

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.6066% / 0.01606646
53.6 (Balto-)Slavic
22.8 Celtic
15.2 Germanic
6.8 Graeco-Roman
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Finnic_like

Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.04389800 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.04486977 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.04715332 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.04728183 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.04971268 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.05244040 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.05281082 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05286845 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.05354033 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.05408809 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.05459378 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05552757 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.05577985 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.05622178 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.05635830 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.05769866 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.05898387 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.06182068 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06288821 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.06475836 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.06501954 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.06642433 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.06644701 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.06833360 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
0.07090591 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255

Jana

12-27-2021, 12:08 PM

Bessarion

12-28-2021, 08:11 PM

Of course!

Celtic:Gallic_scaled,0.128532615,0.140455538,0.055 944423,0.028821538,0.044173808,0.009965,0.00032530 8,0.002848962,0.012460231,0.018805385,-0.001711269,0.007821962,-0.015111962,-0.010962192,0.013488615,0.001764346,-0.006464038,0.003664231,0.002982885,-0.000182731,0.002759577,0.003329038,-0.003086,-0.004134038,-0.000667769
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064 488,0.054 264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0 .008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.1330 34,0.0690 13,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491, 0.05506,0 .043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.000231,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.133034 ,0.064865 ,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.0028 63,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.126941 ,0.071653 ,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003 477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0 .06939,0. 051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0 .065242,0 .047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0. 061848,0. 038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143, 0.060716, 0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491, 0.071653, 0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.135065 ,0.062979 ,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.0030 68,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.137096 ,0.04714, 0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010 431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.1259 26,0.075 424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.1279 57,0.067 127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0.014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.1299 88,0.078 818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0 .005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%,0.126344,0.14319,0.054682,0 .028747,0.041854,0.011713,-0.002585,-0.000923,0.011044,0.019864,-0.00065,0.004346,-0.005798,-0.009496,-0.002443,0.015248,0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.005 878,0.006613,0.01014,-0.002958,-0.006748,-0.003233
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%,0.125205,0.146236,0.058454,0 .019057,0.0437,0.004462,0.000705,0.004384,0.011453 ,0.026606,-0.000487,0.008393,-0.015907,-0.00812,0.004479,0.001724,0.001956,0.0019,0.000754 ,0.001751,-0.000499,0.004575,-0.001849,0.002892,-0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%,0.132035,0.141159,0.062602,0 .02584,0.041546,0.002789,-0.001175,0.003461,0.011249,0.02278,-0.001299,0.007943,-0.018285,-0.007156,0.003257,0.001458,0.005737,-0.00114,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.000998,-0.000866,0.003204,0.001807,0.003353
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%,0.126344,0.145221,0.048649,0 .025517,0.038469,0.00502,-0.002115,0.003923,0.011862,0.018224,-0.007145,0.005095,-0.01442,-0.025047,0.009772,0.016176,0.018123,0.004307,-0.003142,-0.003126,0.004118,-0.000124,-0.000123,0.003133,-0.000479
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%,0.130897,0.147252,0.050911,0 .023902,0.044008,0.012829,0.00658,0.004154,0.00429 5,0.021504,0.002273,0.01139,-0.012339,-0.006055,0.013979,-0.004375,-0.021383,0.003041,0.000251,-0.001626,0,0.006183,0.00037,-0.007109,0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%,0.129758,0.142174,0.046009,0 .017119,0.044316,0.00251,0.00235,-0.000692,0.01268,0.009294,0.00065,0.004646,-0.015015,-0.018029,0.000407,0.017369,0.012386,0.000127,0.001 383,0.002751,0.005989,0.002226,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.003712
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135 065,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0 .020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0. 125926,0.085606,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.01762 6,0.014307,0.003886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466,0.111547,0.11 4755,0.065242,0.073644,0.029852,0.021475,0.018801, 0.002769,-0.007158,-0.021139,-0.016888,-0.010641,0.019029,0.026011,-0.011129,-0.001591,0.008345,-0.000887,0.01345,0.005127,-0.000624,-0.008161,-0.001356,-0.005422,-0.015807
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438,0.134311,0.127 957,0.078441,0.079458,0.02739,0.033746,0.006815,0. 015692,0.001227,-0.031709,0.001299,-0.011839,0.013528,0.022157,-0.011943,-0.001326,-0.000782,0.000887,0.009679,0.012631,-0.018467,0.001113,0.001109,-0.01205,-0.009939
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK440,0.127482,0.118 817,0.07995,0.079781,0.049855,0.038208,0.018331,0. 017538,0.007567,-0.005285,-0.018512,-0.02278,0.008325,0.035369,-0.00095,-0.006762,-0.005085,0.002914,-0.00352,-0.008379,0.006239,-0.009398,-0.000863,-0.017111,-0.000599
(Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29,0.134311,0.1238 95,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.0 1223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826

Target: Bojan_scaled
Distance: 1.4453% / 0.01445270
36.0 Germanic
32.6 (Balto-)Slavic
15.4 Graeco-Roman
13.8 Balkan
1.2 Finnic_like
1.0 Turkic

Distance to: Bojan_scaled
0.05005437 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.05341388 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.05342395 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.05391217 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.05477188 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05502693 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05614557 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.05638165 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.05672148 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.05817908 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.05857082 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.05901660 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.05986291 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.06023054 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.06110503 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.06124029 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.06208118 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.06242046 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.06242046 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.06429987 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.06434616 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.06622428 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.06633321 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.06659291 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.06739552 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%

How did you compile, actually choose sources? Look like from a large timeframe.

noricum

01-01-2022, 01:40 PM

Dušan

04-10-2022, 11:30 AM

No adc is required, keep it 0.

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Feiichy%20Slavic%20G25%20ancient%20calculator.htm

Link doesnt work.

Could you re-post coordinates?

Dušan

04-10-2022, 11:32 AM

I found them.

Of course!

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Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%,0.124067,0.149283,0.032432,-0.005491,0.02739,-0.001952,-0.001175,0.006,0.012885,0.027335,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.013825,-0.010459,-0.006786,-0.002784,0.006258,0.006968,0.005028,-0.009505,-0.006239,0.002473,0.0053,0.00976,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%,0.126344,0.140143,0.032432,-0.005814,0.044316,-0.002231,-0.004935,0.002077,0.012271,0.038999,0.000325,0.010 94,-0.012042,-0.007432,0.005157,-0.005701,-0.001565,0.004687,0.011439,-0.004627,0.001872,0.001237,-0.002588,-0.002771,-0.005269
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0 .001292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.00920 4,0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%,0.125205,0.15436,0.032809,-0.001292,0.032314,-0.002231,-0.000235,0,0.015339,0.032985,-0.006171,0.008542,-0.026016,0,-0.008143,-0.016574,-0.001173,0.004307,0.013324,-0.013632,-0.000998,0.000742,-0.00037,0.005181,0.000599
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%,0.129758,0.149283,0.033564,0 .004845,0.038161,0.005857,0.00705,0.010846,0.01145 3,0.028793,0.001949,0.011839,-0.020812,-0.008533,0.002172,-0.000796,0.002608,0.008108,0.006662,0.003001,-0.007612,-0.001978,0.002218,-0.012291,-0.003113
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%,0.124067,0.149283,0.028284,-0.002261,0.031083,0.000558,0.000705,0.005077,0.007 976,0.022962,0.001299,0.006594,-0.01115,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.005171,-0.014342,-0.005574,0.004022,-0.005127,-0.0141,0.004822,0.003328,-0.006145,0.005987
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%,0.129758,0.133034,0.030924,0 .007429,0.03416,0.003904,0.00376,-0.002769,0.001432,0.026606,-0.000974,0.010641,-0.024232,-0.011147,-0.002714,0.012066,0.02021,-0.003547,0.005028,-0.000375,-0.001123,0.004822,-0.003204,0.004579,-0.003353
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%,0.133173,0.146236,0.033941,0 .001615,0.040931,-0.006972,-0.000235,0.000231,0.002863,0.019135,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.016204,-0.005367,-0.0019,0.00305,0.009257,-0.001014,0.007416,-0.006753,-0.003369,0.008285,0.001972,0.00976,-0.009101
Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%,0.127482,0.148267,0.036204,-0.003553,0.038161,-0.003626,-0.0047,0.009692,0.007158,0.020593,0.002273,0.00704 4,-0.014569,0.000413,-0.005022,-0.001989,0.014342,-0.000887,0.008045,-0.009755,0.007861,0.005688,0.000123,-0.003494,-0.003832
Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.0169 7,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01,0.106994,-0.024373,0.085229,0.068153,-0.030159,0.01255,0.005405,0.010153,-0.01309,-0.04155,0.017051,-0.003597,0.012785,-0.026974,-0.015336,-0.006895,-0.00339,-0.00152,-0.008296,-0.014757,0.007861,-0.000247,-0.001232,0.007591,-0.011256
Finnic_like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Finnic_like:Udmurt13,0.105855,-0.022342,0.078818,0.06783,-0.0397,0.009761,0.005405,0.006461,-0.004295,-0.032074,0.023709,-0.004496,0.021704,-0.03936,-0.008007,-0.004906,-0.009388,-0.003674,-0.014832,-0.019509,-0.004617,0.008408,-0.002218,0.015062,-0.003473
Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064 488,0.054 264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659,0 .008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c,0.117238,0.1330 34,0.0690 13,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.008695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.003377,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6,0.137726,0.12491, 0.05506,0 .043928,0.032314,0.01757,0.003525,0.000231,-0.001227,0.002005,-0.009743,0.014087,-0.011596,-0.009771,0.020222,0.018297,0.005607,0.002914,0.007 165,0.014882,0.001747,-0.001607,-0.004314,0.010242,-0.010059
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106,0.125205,0.133034 ,0.064865 ,0.067184,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.0028 63,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249,0.125205,0.126941 ,0.071653 ,0.04845,0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003 477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0 .06939,0. 051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0 .065242,0 .047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0. 061848,0. 038114,0.036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255,0.118376,0.140143, 0.060716, 0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316,0.125205,0.12491, 0.071653, 0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480,0.122929,0.135065 ,0.062979 ,0.033269,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.0030 68,0.008018,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486,0.120652,0.137096 ,0.04714, 0.055233,0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010 431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111,0.12862,0.157407,0 .013953,-0.033592,0.024004,-0.005578,0.0047,0.000692,-0.000205,0.038634,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.012042,-0.005505,-0.010043,0.009812,0.009909,-0.005574,0.011187,0.006128,-0.008735,-0.00643,-0.004437,-0.000964,0.008263
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549,0.108132,0.146236 ,-0.000377,-0.026486,0.017234,-0.01506,0.005405,-0.006461,0.010226,0.006378,0.003085,-0.009891,0.002379,-0.001514,0.004072,0.003713,-0.00326,0.004561,0.003394,0.003001,-0.000499,0.010758,-0.000863,0.007109,0.005269
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786, 0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011 307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.1259 26,0.075 424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.1279 57,0.067 127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0.014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.1299 88,0.078 818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0 .005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13,0.127482,0.132019,0.083721,0 .078489,0.050471,0.026495,0.00517,0.018922,0.00429 5,-0.028429,-0.004384,-0.006744,0.017988,0.043076,-0.008143,-0.011668,0.005346,0.000507,0.004022,0.012256,-0.012228,-0.008903,0.01368,-0.013496,-0.002395
(Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28,0.141141,0.136081,0.087492,0 .081719,0.047086,0.027052,0.019976,0.023999,0.0106 35,-0.01385,-0.001299,-0.014537,0.027502,0.03647,-0.015065,-0.007425,-0.014473,-0.005954,-0.005531,0,-0.007237,-0.004204,0.000616,-0.00964,-0.002275
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196,0.085367,-0.004062,0.001131,-0.014212,-0.040315,-0.006693,-0.00329,-0.002538,-0.006136,-0.012939,-0.011692,-0.006145,-0.010258,-0.004266,0.006379,-0.00053,0.01004,-0.00114,0.001634,-0.008629,-0.005865,-0.00136,-0.007888,0.002892,0.00491
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228,0.0774,-0.103584,0.038089,0.007752,0.002462,0.004741,0.003 76,0.011307,-0.010022,-0.005285,-0.024683,-0.008992,-0.005649,-0.011836,0.001629,0.002917,0.004303,-0.000127,-0.002263,0.001751,-0.006239,0.010387,0.001725,0.007712,0.005149
Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89,0.0774,-0.071087,0.012822,0.022287,-0.053548,0.000279,0.005875,0.004154,-0.024543,-0.013485,-0.014453,0.003147,-0.000446,-0.009634,-0.000136,0.008618,-0.004563,0.003041,0.008925,-0.000875,-0.003993,0.001484,-0.012941,-0.008917,0.000599
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%,0.126344,0.14319,0.054682,0 .028747,0.041854,0.011713,-0.002585,-0.000923,0.011044,0.019864,-0.00065,0.004346,-0.005798,-0.009496,-0.002443,0.015248,0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.005 878,0.006613,0.01014,-0.002958,-0.006748,-0.003233
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%,0.125205,0.146236,0.058454,0 .019057,0.0437,0.004462,0.000705,0.004384,0.011453 ,0.026606,-0.000487,0.008393,-0.015907,-0.00812,0.004479,0.001724,0.001956,0.0019,0.000754 ,0.001751,-0.000499,0.004575,-0.001849,0.002892,-0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%,0.132035,0.141159,0.062602,0 .02584,0.041546,0.002789,-0.001175,0.003461,0.011249,0.02278,-0.001299,0.007943,-0.018285,-0.007156,0.003257,0.001458,0.005737,-0.00114,0.003017,-0.003877,-0.000998,-0.000866,0.003204,0.001807,0.003353
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%,0.126344,0.145221,0.048649,0 .025517,0.038469,0.00502,-0.002115,0.003923,0.011862,0.018224,-0.007145,0.005095,-0.01442,-0.025047,0.009772,0.016176,0.018123,0.004307,-0.003142,-0.003126,0.004118,-0.000124,-0.000123,0.003133,-0.000479
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%,0.130897,0.147252,0.050911,0 .023902,0.044008,0.012829,0.00658,0.004154,0.00429 5,0.021504,0.002273,0.01139,-0.012339,-0.006055,0.013979,-0.004375,-0.021383,0.003041,0.000251,-0.001626,0,0.006183,0.00037,-0.007109,0.001317
Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%,0.129758,0.142174,0.046009,0 .017119,0.044316,0.00251,0.00235,-0.000692,0.01268,0.009294,0.00065,0.004646,-0.015015,-0.018029,0.000407,0.017369,0.012386,0.000127,0.001 383,0.002751,0.005989,0.002226,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.003712
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135 065,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0 .020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0. 125926,0.085606,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.01762 6,0.014307,0.003886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466,0.111547,0.11 4755,0.065242,0.073644,0.029852,0.021475,0.018801, 0.002769,-0.007158,-0.021139,-0.016888,-0.010641,0.019029,0.026011,-0.011129,-0.001591,0.008345,-0.000887,0.01345,0.005127,-0.000624,-0.008161,-0.001356,-0.005422,-0.015807
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438,0.134311,0.127 957,0.078441,0.079458,0.02739,0.033746,0.006815,0. 015692,0.001227,-0.031709,0.001299,-0.011839,0.013528,0.022157,-0.011943,-0.001326,-0.000782,0.000887,0.009679,0.012631,-0.018467,0.001113,0.001109,-0.01205,-0.009939
(Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK440,0.127482,0.118 817,0.07995,0.079781,0.049855,0.038208,0.018331,0. 017538,0.007567,-0.005285,-0.018512,-0.02278,0.008325,0.035369,-0.00095,-0.006762,-0.005085,0.002914,-0.00352,-0.008379,0.006239,-0.009398,-0.000863,-0.017111,-0.000599
(Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29,0.134311,0.1238 95,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.0 1223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.3306% / 0.00330645
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
25.8 Balkan
19.4 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Germanic
1.0 Turkic

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.4495% / 0.00449510 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 (Balto-)Slavic
23.6 Balkan
23.4 Graeco-Roman

rothaer

04-10-2022, 11:42 AM

I found them.

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.3306% / 0.00330645
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
25.8 Balkan
19.4 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Germanic
1.0 Turkic

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.4495% / 0.00449510 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 (Balto-)Slavic
23.6 Balkan
23.4 Graeco-Roman

While figures do change somewhat with ADC, the (Balto-)Slavic proportion - which is the primary aim of the calculator - just changed from 52.6% to 53.0%. So the calculator gives a somewhat stable statement in that aspect.

Jana

04-10-2022, 02:14 PM

I found them.

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.3306% / 0.00330645
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
25.8 Balkan
19.4 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Germanic
1.0 Turkic

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.4495% / 0.00449510 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 (Balto-)Slavic
23.6 Balkan
23.4 Graeco-Roman

Looks very good for you, this model gives you way more Balkan and evenly splits your pre-Slavic between Paleo Balkan and Roman instead of K13 that gives you just Roman.

Dušan

04-10-2022, 02:21 PM

Looks very good for you, this model gives you way more Balkan and evenly splits your pre-Slavic between Paleo Balkan and Roman instead of K13 that gives you just Roman.

I agree, these G25 coordinates that our vbnetkhio provided from K36 results, seems more understandable and logical than K13.

MandM

04-10-2022, 03:13 PM

what does it mean that she has more Greaco-Roman than Balkan?

Target: Wify_scaled
Distance: 2.0325% / 0.02032530 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.8 (Balto-)Slavic
37.4 Graeco-Roman
13.8 Celtic

Target: Wify_scaled
Distance: 2.0103% / 0.02010273
50.4 (Balto-)Slavic
29.8 Graeco-Roman
11.0 Celtic
8.8 Balkan

alnortedelsur

04-10-2022, 04:58 PM

alnortedelsur

04-10-2022, 05:12 PM

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.1496% / 0.06149600
44.8 Balkan
24.8 Turkic
20.6 Celtic
9.8 Graeco-Roman

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08017818 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23911___Date:-815___Coverage_69.77%
0.08024231 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24639___Date:-708___Coverage_68.44%
0.08132756 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.08285122 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.08414842 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23904___Date:-692___Coverage_70.20%
0.08673692 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23996___Date:-794___Coverage_65.39%
0.08695590 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.08796835 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I26742___Date:-700___Coverage_80.45%
0.08881319 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.08912762 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.08961732 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.09055142 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.09064789 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.09212598 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.09263911 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.09335701 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.09452567 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.09509987 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.09624886 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.09903496 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.10224628 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.10356806 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.10686708 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.10999206 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.11033397 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.11044674 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.11194719 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.11348324 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.11374033 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.11622548 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.11638924 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.11653338 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.11769992 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.12037157 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.12494088 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.12597953 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.12940364 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.13127439 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.14109174 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.14167413 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011

alnortedelsur

04-10-2022, 05:16 PM

With the coordinates provided by Rothaer (before Stearsolina update):

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.7831% / 0.05783079
58.4 Celtic_like
21.6 Graeco-Roman
20.0 Turkic

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08132756 Balkan:HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ43
0.08695590 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR1549
0.08881319 Balkan:HRV_IA_I3313
0.09298495 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA111
0.09627406 Celtic_likeEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.09680599 Celtic_likeEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.10224628 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
0.10296452 Celtic_likeEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.10356806 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.10532679 Celtic_likeEU_Lech_EBA_POST_6
0.10686708 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.10693689 Celtic_likeEU_Lech_EBA_UNTA85_1412
0.10898188 Celtic_like:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112
0.10999206 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.11033397 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
0.11044674 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.11194719 GermanicEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.11348324 GermanicEU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.11374033 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.11622548 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR115
0.11638924 GermanicEU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.11653338 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.11769992 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.12037157 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.12494088 GermanicEU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.12597953 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR128
0.12940364 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.13127439 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.14109174 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.14167413 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.14432051 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.14489811 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.15089932 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2196
0.15712030 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13
0.16429800 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH28
0.19846462 Finnic_like:Udmurt11
0.20010961 Finnic_like:Udmurt13
0.20149790 Finnic_like:Udmurt_156_R02C01
0.21557045 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA89
0.22921343 Turkic:KAZ_Turk_DA228

chrisbab

04-10-2022, 06:45 PM

Target: WGSIllustrativemecombinedkit_scaled
Distance: 1.2897% / 0.01289653
36.4 Graeco-Roman
35.0 (Balto-)Slavic
18.8 Balkan
5.0 Celtic
4.0 Finnic_like
0.8 Turkic

Target: WGSIllustrativedadcombinedkit_scaled
Distance: 1.3610% / 0.01360965
39.4 (Balto-)Slavic
33.4 Graeco-Roman
22.6 Balkan
3.4 Turkic
1.2 Finnic_like

Target: WGSIllustrativemomcombinedkit_scaled
Distance: 1.9169% / 0.01916915
44.0 (Balto-)Slavic
39.4 Graeco-Roman
6.0 Celtic
5.2 Finnic_like
3.4 Balkan
2.0 Germanic

Dušan

04-11-2022, 08:12 AM

Serb members according to G25 coordinates provided by vbnetkhio.

Used 0.25x RC to remove noises.

https://i.imgur.com/YFjptMP.png

Karol Klačansky

04-11-2022, 10:22 AM

Serb members according to G25 coordinates provided by vbnetkhio.

Used 0.25x RC to remove noises.

https://i.imgur.com/YFjptMP.png

where is the source data?

Karol Klačansky

04-11-2022, 10:29 AM

where is the source data?

found it.

Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 1.4402% / 0.01440217
50.4 (Balto-)Slavic
25.4 Celtic
21.2 Germanic
2.0 Finnic_like
1.0 Balkan

Distance to: Karol_scaled
0.03963577 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.04407816 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.04712679 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.04975669 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.05052862 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.05158757 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05192191 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.05224584 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05257323 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.05264916 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.05336589 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.05964475 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.06045238 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.06103462 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.06136294 (Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
0.06140638 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.06186729 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.06220963 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06267791 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.06299653 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466
0.06476675 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06484731 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.06526930 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.06632185 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.06731793 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%

oszkar07

04-11-2022, 10:53 AM

with Stearsolina Coord's

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.1109% / 0.01110862
33.6 Germanic
27.8 (Balto-)Slavic
23.2 Balkan
12.0 Celtic
1.8 Graeco-Roman
1.6 Finnic_like

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.1719% / 0.01171873 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 Germanic
27.6 (Balto-)Slavic
25.0 Balkan
9.6 Celtic

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.1560% / 0.01156019 | R3P
40.6 Germanic
31.6 Balkan
27.8 (Balto-)Slavic

Jana

04-11-2022, 05:54 PM

How did you compile, actually choose sources? Look like from a large timeframe.

From iron age to medieval.

Scandal

04-11-2022, 06:02 PM

"fake g25" by vbntekhio

Target: Universe(Hun)
Distance: 0.3400% / 0.00339965 | R3P
60.2 (Balto-)Slavic
22.2 Graeco-Roman
17.6 Germanic

Dušan

04-11-2022, 06:07 PM

"fake g25" by vbntekhio

Target: Universe(Hun)
Distance: 0.3400% / 0.00339965 | R3P
60.2 (Balto-)Slavic
22.2 Graeco-Roman
17.6 Germanic

Do you think is it more accurate than Gedmatch?

MercifulServant

04-11-2022, 06:07 PM

Target: Decius_scaled
Distance: 2.0110% / 0.02011040
43.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.0 Graeco-Roman
23.8 Balkan
5.8 Germanic
1.2 Turkic

Target: Decius_scaled
Distance: 2.0274% / 0.02027370 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.2 Graeco-Roman
22.8 Balkan
7.8 Germanic

Scandal

04-11-2022, 06:09 PM

Do you think is it more accurate than Gedmatch?
I have no idea, tbh.

Selene

04-11-2022, 06:20 PM

Target: Sylvanas
Distance: 0.3874% / 0.00387431
50.8 (Balto-)Slavic
20.0 Graeco-Roman
19.0 Balkan
8.8 Germanic
1.4 Turkic

Target: Sylvanas
Distance: 0.5468% / 0.00546751 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.2 (Balto-)Slavic
24.0 Graeco-Roman
15.0 Balkan
7.8 Germanic

Target: Sylvanas
Distance: 0.5155% / 0.00515466 | R3P
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
33.4 Graeco-Roman
14.0 Germanic

Dušan

04-11-2022, 06:25 PM

I have no idea, tbh.

Neither I.

I get 65-70% proto-Slavic in K13, the rest is Roman, and no Balkan.
Here is different.

Dušan

04-11-2022, 07:40 PM

Actualy, I think vbnetkhios G25 coordinates are very good.

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

Here I tried with original G25 averages for modern population, and again get overlap with Moldovans, as in Gedmatch.

Serbian average is better here in G25 than in K13.
Or mine K36 from where is G25 are made, is more precize than mine K13.

Distance to: Dušan
0.00944096 Moldovan
0.00970092 Serbian
0.01128988 Bosnian
0.01428027 Montenegrin
0.01793203 Croatian
0.01972121 Romanian
0.02283252 Slovenian
0.02495779 Hungarian
0.02544748 Macedonian
0.02846841 Austrian
0.02896314 Bulgarian
0.03201145 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03629781 German_Erlangen
0.03775089 Gagauz
0.03885360 Italian_Northeast
0.04056640 Czech
0.04088353 French_Alsace
0.04218054 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04329286 German_East
0.04351271 German
0.04360875 Moldovan_o
0.04526069 Slovakian
0.04544035 Swiss_German
0.04559449 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04578914 French_Nord

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.1543% / 0.00154293
29.4 Serbian
11.2 Romanian
9.2 Macedonian
7.2 Montenegrin
7.0 Polish_Kashubian
6.6 Albanian
5.4 Russian_Orel
4.8 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
3.6 Russian_Kaluga
3.0 Greek_Macedonia
2.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
2.0 Greek_Laconia
1.8 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
1.6 Bosnian
1.6 Sardinian
1.0 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.8 Ingrian
0.6 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.4 Moksha
0.2 Greenlander_East
0.2 Hmong

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.3192% / 0.00319248 | R3P
42.6 Serbian
39.8 Romanian
17.6 Russian_Orel

Russki

04-11-2022, 07:53 PM

Moldovans are short as fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

I don't buy that Serbs and Moldovans are made of the same genetic stock.

Dušan

04-11-2022, 08:01 PM

Moldovans are short as fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

I don't buy that Serbs and Moldovans are made of the same genetic stock.

It is about similar percentage of Slav, paleo-Balkan and imperial Roman autosomal admixture, not direct genetic connection.

BTW, not all Serbs are very tall.

Leto

04-11-2022, 08:13 PM

Moldovans are short as fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

I don't buy that Serbs and Moldovans are made of the same genetic stock.
According to you everyone south of Moscow is černožopy (black-assed) xD

Russki

04-11-2022, 08:18 PM

It is about similar percentage of Slav, paleo-Balkan and imperial Roman autosomal admixture, not direct genetic connection.

Yeah, it's obvious.

Still, would be good if the distinction was more clear.

There must be genetic reasons for height difference.

Roy

04-11-2022, 09:41 PM

Moldovans are short as fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

I don't buy that Serbs and Moldovans are made of the same genetic stock.

There are many factors influencing the height, it is possible that Serbs have a nutritious diet than Moldovans for instance. And Dutch people 100 years ago were some of the shortest Europeans yet now are the tallest on average but their genetic makeup has not changed much, maybe possibly for their population selecting height positively (and likely people with genes for it) for some reason with females finally having a possibility of choosing their spouse unlike centuries ago as in many societies and as it turns out strongly preferring taller men. There could be various reasons behind the discrepancy, maybe even multiple that work simultaneously.

Karol Klačansky

04-11-2022, 09:43 PM

rothaer

04-11-2022, 10:31 PM

how much is he charging for the G25 coordinates.

12 USD afaik.

rothaer

04-11-2022, 10:54 PM

Do you think is it more accurate than Gedmatch?

I'd say better than K13 and worse than K36.

As for real G25 I consider it equally good as K36. Though G25 is better for modeling with ancients and K36 better for modern. Why? K36 has various modern samples for defining the components and I'm pretty sure Davidski will have chosen ancients for his G25 system. Modern genetic drifts will be caught only by K36 while G25 will be better for displaying ancient conditions. What time is meant by ancient? I guess something like 10 tousand years ago, because Davidski said you should always model with components that are older than what you do model. This means that our examination of proto Slavic is something in between modern and ancient. So I guess G25 and K36 could be equally suitable for that.

Scandal

04-12-2022, 05:40 AM

Moldovans are short as fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

I don't buy that Serbs and Moldovans are made of the same genetic stock.
Genes responsible for height are totally different genes than the ones that determine where someone plots on a PCA.
And what about Serbs who are short, but totally average Serb genetically?

There are many factors influencing the height, it is possible that Serbs have a nutritious diet than Moldovans for instance. And Dutch people 100 years ago were some of the shortest Europeans yet now are the tallest on average but their genetic makeup has not changed much, maybe possibly for their population selecting height positively (and likely people with genes for it) for some reason with females finally having a possibility of choosing their spouse unlike centuries ago as in many societies and as it turns out strongly preferring taller men. There could be various reasons behind the discrepancy, maybe even multiple that work simultaneously.
Exactly. Racial make up of European ethnicities did not change in last 200 years but on average we're like 10 cm taller than our ancestors 200 years ago.

Dick

04-12-2022, 05:47 AM

Genes responsible for height are totally different genes than the ones that determine where someone plots on a PCA.
And what about Serbs who are short, but totally average Serb genetically.

It's called sexual selection. You're talking about a tribe from the Middle Ages that expanded into a nation today from a handful of similar males. Your I2 sublcade will not be the same as Novak Djokovic's for example.

Karol Klačansky

04-12-2022, 07:47 AM

12 USD afaik.

Ich muss ihm nur schreiben oder hat er auch seine eigene Website?

Jana

04-12-2022, 11:47 AM

my aunt results (half German half Serbo-Greek)

Target: Stearsolina_Aunt
Distance: 0.1771% / 0.00177142

25.8 Germanic
24.4 (Balto-)Slavic
19.2 Graeco-Roman
14.8 Celtic
14.4 Balkan
1.2 Finnic_like
0.2 Turkic

Works really well.

Jana

04-12-2022, 11:48 AM

Ich muss ihm nur schreiben oder hat er auch seine eigene Website?

His online shop is closer until summer.

oszkar07

04-12-2022, 01:37 PM

Using my Vbnetkhios G25 sim Coords / Looks pretty good.

Target: Oszkar(Hun/GB)
Distance: 0.1284% / 0.00128353
41.0 Germanic
29.4 (Balto-)Slavic
17.8 Balkan
9.4 Celtic
1.2 Finnic_like
1.2 Graeco-Roman

Target: Oszkar(Hun/GB)
Distance: 0.3222% / 0.00322214 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.8 Germanic
30.4 (Balto-)Slavic
17.2 Balkan
5.6 Celtic

rothaer

04-12-2022, 07:17 PM

Ich muss ihm nur schreiben oder hat er auch seine eigene Website?

Schreiben auf eurogenesblog@gmail.com, aber er hat bis einschließlich Juli geschlossen.

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/10/genetic-ancestry-online-store-to-be.html

Karol Klačansky

04-14-2022, 09:48 AM

from simulated G25 results

Dad

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 0.5321% / 0.00532076
50.0 (Balto-)Slavic
26.0 Germanic
10.0 Balkan
7.2 Celtic
5.8 Graeco-Roman
1.0 Finnic_like

Sister in law who is full slovak
Target: Petra_scaled
Distance: 0.6308% / 0.00630791
60.4 (Balto-)Slavic
17.4 Germanic
12.4 Celtic
8.4 Graeco-Roman
1.4 Finnic_like

my simulated results
Target: Karol_scaled2
Distance: 0.8583% / 0.00858255
42.2 (Balto-)Slavic
31.0 Germanic
18.8 Celtic
6.8 Balkan
1.2 Finnic_like

vs my G25 results with cords from Davidski
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 1.4402% / 0.01440217
50.4 (Balto-)Slavic
25.4 Celtic
21.2 Germanic
2.0 Finnic_like
1.0 Balkan

Karol Klačansky

04-17-2022, 10:57 AM

My Fathers results with actual coords from Dawidski

Distance to: KarolFather_scaled
0.03915670 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.04019742 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.04231863 (Balto-)Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA_Sunghir6
0.04511803 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.05216510 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.05290299 (Balto-)Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
0.05493208 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.05547776 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK466
0.05590851 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.05633206 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05671634 (Balto-)Slavic:EU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.05835838 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.05872007 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.05874633 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.05907127 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.05919869 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.05945700 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.06080837 (Balto-)Slavic:VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.06459109 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06534565 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.06675800 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.06729728 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.06732287 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.06738241 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.06833266 (Balto-)Slavic:Moravia_POH13

Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 1.1872% / 0.01187217
58.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.4 Celtic
7.2 Germanic
2.8 Balkan
2.8 Graeco-Roman
2.6 Finnic_like

Dušan

05-03-2022, 12:21 PM

I found them.

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.3306% / 0.00330645
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
25.8 Balkan
19.4 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Germanic
1.0 Turkic

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.4495% / 0.00449510 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 (Balto-)Slavic
23.6 Balkan
23.4 Graeco-Roman

Trying G25 provided by Gixajo

Thanks Gixajo :)

Target: Dušan_scaled:K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.3209% / 0.00320888
54.6 (Balto-)Slavic
26.2 Balkan
16.6 Graeco-Roman
2.6 Finnic_like

Target: Dušan_scaled:K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.5507% / 0.00550715 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.2 (Balto-)Slavic
24.8 Graeco-Roman
21.0 Balkan

Quite similar to those provided by vbnetkhio, based on K36.

oszkar07

05-03-2022, 12:59 PM

with simulated G25 coords

Target: Oszkar(Hun/GB)
Distance: 0.2195% / 0.00219473
45.8 Germanic
31.0 (Balto-)Slavic
22.2 Balkan
0.8 Finnic_like
0.2 Graeco-Roman

hazmatnik

06-09-2022, 09:35 PM

Original G25 vs K36 simulated

https://i.postimg.cc/L8SJGvyM/Screenshot-20220609-163302-Chrome.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

de Burgh II

06-10-2022, 01:58 AM

Distance to: de_Burgh_II
0.02970209 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_1
0.03054757 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap12c
0.03172541 Celtic:Gallic_scaled
0.03351905 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_10
0.03416747 Germanic:EU_MA_Alemannic_NIEcap6
0.03524572 Germanic:EU_MA_ACD_STR_355
0.03731906 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_480
0.04023438 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_ALH_3
0.04098218 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_316
0.04237981 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_NW_255
0.04242008 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15043___Date:-290___Coverage_72.39%
0.04340928 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14985___Date:-305___Coverage_66.92%
0.04445723 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_249
0.04561919 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I15046___Date:-355___Coverage_72.60%
0.04691623 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_STR_486
0.04723013 Germanic:EU_MA_Baiuvaric_AED_106
0.04791262 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984___Date:-305___Coverage_65.63%
0.05101445 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene_Hallstatt:I16090___Date:-2250___Coverage_68.77%
0.05141104 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene:I14986___Date:-305___Coverage_69.56%
0.06933832 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24882___Date:-649___Coverage_71.05%
0.06946474 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24638___Date:-708___Coverage_67.73%
0.06986689 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I24879___Date:-649___Coverage_70.20%
0.07196353 Balkan:Croatia_EIA:I23995___Date:-779___Coverage_68.95%
0.07545502 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%
0.07545502 Balkan:Croatia_LIA_LaTene:I26735___Date:-100___Coverage_79.32%

Target: de_Burgh_II
Distance: 0.8089% / 0.00808929
74.0 Germanic
26.0 Celtic