Non Muslims: Is the hijab “ugly”

[Breathe]

I wanna know what you guys think. Is it aesthetically unappealing?

Also, what do you think about headscarves that have been worn in Europe traditionally. Particularly in countries like Russia, Ireland, Greece, Italy, eastern Germany and etc ?

[Teutone]

No they are not, modesty is real beauty.

[Breathe]

No they are not, modesty is real beauty.

Even though I agree, but your answer doesn’t count sorry. I am looking for answers from non Muslims only!

[Teutone]

Even though I agree, but your answer doesn’t count sorry. I am looking for answers from non Muslims only!

Im not muslim. Im catholic.

[CordedWhelp]

I don't think of it as ugly, no. I suppose it even has a way of making a ladies' face "pop" more (in a good way).

[reboun]

No, it is neither ugly nor unappealing.

[Gallop]

I wanna know what you guys think. Is it aesthetically unappealing?

Also, what do you think about headscarves that have been worn in Europe traditionally. Particularly in countries like Russia, Ireland, Greece, Italy, eastern Germany and etc ?

Exactly, I will feel alluded to in the etc.

I associate it with old age. I find it horrible, I don't like it at all.

[Gredos]

very practical for the desert climate, protects from the sun, and protects from sandstorms. It is a great invention.

but using it outside of that environment is ridiculous

[GDDR6]

Depends on the hijab style

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Some of the girls look like aliens

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I found these head garments much better

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[TheMaestro]

Not necessarily unappealing, makes the woman more modest.
Not ninja style but only neck and hair covered looks decent, you wouldn't want to flirt with this kind of woman.
Bare in mind even our catholic babushkas use to cover their heads.
I mean I wouldn't want my wife to wear a hijab, but knowing she wears one when she's out, would make me feel comfortable ain't gonna lie.
Then women who have their tits out, cry why men hit on them and talk with them.

[Mitryejd]

The soul of those who wear hijab or burqa is a bitch.
what modesty your talking about?
in an obscene opressed culture

[Sebastianus Rex]

What do you think when you see these pictures of Europe? Third world backward shit or aesthetic enrichment ?

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It's ugly and depressing but they are right, it's their choice and people can dress as they want. Covering the head was something very common for european women a few decades or one century back, but they had usually better aesthetics than these horrendous and alien hijabs.

[Tooting Carmen]

What do you think when you see these pictures of Europe? Third world backward shit or aesthetic enrichment ?

Somewhere in between. But just to point out: Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE and even possibly Saudi Arabia itself are wealthier than many European countries.

[Hasien]

What do you think when you see these pictures of Europe? Third world backward shit or aesthetic enrichment ?

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It's ugly and depressing but they are right, it's their choice and people can dress as they want. Covering the head was something very common for european women a few decades or one century back, but they had usually better aesthetics than these horrendous and alien hijabs.

They should all be deported where ever the fuck they come from, and replace them with Latin Americans at least we are christians and latinos tend to be hard working Individuals.

[chinshen]

Yes, it makes women appear uglier, especially if they weren't that good looking to start with.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Somewhere in between. But just to point out: Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE and even possibly Saudi Arabia itself are wealthier than many European countries.

And you also know very well they would probably be third world if not for the oil resources. Anyway the hijabs in those rich countries are of much better quality/aesthetics.

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[Tutankhamun]

Yes

[happycow]

They should all be deported where ever the fuck they come from, and replace them with Latin Americans at least we are christians and latinos tend to be hard working Individuals.

:icon_lol: :picard2:

[Hasien]

:icon_lol: :picard2:

I'm sorryyyyyyyy damn I forgot I had TA Muslim friends around.


I swear this Is not what It looks like LOL I'm gonna cry now

[Hamilcar]

What do you think when you see these pictures of Europe? Third world backward shit or aesthetic enrichment ?


It's ugly and depressing but they are right, it's their choice and people can dress as they want. Covering the head was something very common for european women a few decades or one century back, but they had usually better aesthetics than these horrendous and alien hijabs.

But that's what you don't understand : hijabs aren't supposed to be beautiful or make the lady appear more elegant/beautiful, it's all about modesty certainly not beauty or "aesthetics"

[happycow]

I'm sorryyyyyyyy damn I forgot I had TA Muslim friends around.


I swear this Is not what It looks like LOL I'm gonna cry now

:lovebire:

[Ranger0075]

LOL at New Worlders voting yes.

Even the worst hijabs look better than New World style.


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[sean]

Non Muslims: Is the hijab “ugly”. I wanna know what you guys think. Is it aesthetically unappealing?

No man finds a woman in a hijab attractive, Non-Muslims at least.

Ironically, I don't see very many articles about how feminist and empowering the hijab is now that Afghanistan has fallen and the women there are going to be crammed back into tight ninja suits.

https://i.imgur.com/3b1KBeI.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/eST11Ne.jpg

But at least brownies in Muslim world keep their women under control by making them wear the hijab.

https://i.imgur.com/LB7k1xP.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oaLGUDra7I


Also, what do you think about headscarves that have been worn in Europe traditionally. Particularly in countries like Russia, Ireland, Greece, Italy, eastern Germany and etc ?

Europeans wearing headscarves was mostly just a Catholic thing and it was mostly just done in Church.

Catholic women generally wore chapel veils, or mantillas, until around the time of the Second Vatican Council.

A common headcovering for married women was the wimple, this is where nun's headdress derived from. For example, the book Inside the Wardrobe of Anne Boleyn described unmarried Anne Boleyn loved to wear her long hair loose, but after she married Henry VIII she was obliged to cover her hair.

This seems to be caught up in classical ideas about female modesty. It is clear that in parts of the Greek world, and among certain Roman classes, heading covering was just what respectable women did.

But this is basically Attican Greek tradition, which became Byzanto-Roman tradition, which was the basis for many Christian customs, as well as Islamic.

However, Wikipedia makes an argument that the Arabian veiling tradition is related to Assyrian law, though I don't know what to make of that since by the time Muhammed was born, there hadn't been an Assyrian Empire for well over millennium, so I wouldn't rely on that tidbit as a representative of the social milieu during the rise of Islam, but it should show you what kind of straws people grasp at because of the scarcity of records.

[coolfrenchguy]

As i poop fully on ISLAM and anything than who came with,as i don't believe at all of the existence of Mahomet,as i believe than ISLAM is a satanic sect regularised as religion,muslim veil is the abnegation of the woman,of the feminity,the will of men to erase all the female attributes,like a veil ,a piece of cloth,will they protect them from adultery,that's pure bullshit,i'am pretty sure than it's exist nudist couples more faithfull to each other than muslims




ISLAM is not a religion it's just a satanic cult drived by sexually frustated men,after reading below don't been suprised than it fully furnished of heavy demented men

haram=forbidden, halal=authorised

Islamic values are twisted.

Dr. Ayesha Ahmad explains why:

It is haram to marry an adult pagan woman but halal to marry an underage Muslim child.

It is haram to steal an egg from a Muslim, punishable by cutting hands and feet, but halal to rob non Muslim's commercial caravans, rewarded by share of the booty.

It is haram to slaughter an animal in a name other than God but halal to slaughter a human being in the name of God.

It is haram to befriend a Jew or a Christian but halal to kill them and sleep with their wives and daughters.

It is haram to watch television but halal to watch beheadings and stoning.

It is haram for a woman even to show her face to a namahram man but halal for a man to disrobe and inspect a namahram woman before buying her in a slave market.

It is haram to buy mortgage to acquire a house for your family but halal to buy a woman from a slave market to sleep with her.

It is haram to trade alcohol but halal to trade human beings.

It is haram to listen to music but halal to listen to wailing of innocent women and children of the beheaded critics and apostates.

It is haram to see a movie but halal to kill an infidel.

It is haram to bet on a horse for entertainment but halal to steal a horse from an infidel for a living.

It is haram for a woman to have more than one husband but halal for a husband to have more than one wife.

It is haram for a husband to hurt his wife by treating other wives better, but halal for him to hurt them all by acquiring and sleeping with unlimited slaves and captive women.

It is haram for a wife to refuse her husband even on a camels back but halal for a husband to beat her up with a lash and green stick if she refuses him.

It is haram to even break the heart of a single innocent person if he is Muslim, but halal to behead all the innocent men of a community and sell their innocent women and children in slavery if they are non Muslims.

It is haram to attack and and injure enemy women but halal to enslave and rape them.

It is halal to stone a woman by burying her in a hole dug to her shoulders to maintain her "hijab" but haram to stone her on a flat ground and risk her "hijab".

It is halal to let young girls burn in fire but haram to rescue them if they do not have hijab.

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF ISLAM
By: Ayesha Ahmad

1 Thou shalt behead apostates, pagans and violators of blasphemy laws, it is halal for you.

2.Thou shalt extort money from Christians and Jews, the future hell dwellers, and if they refuse, kill them. But do not hurt their women and children, it is haram for you. However thou shalt enslave them, rape them or sell them for profit, it is halal for you.

3. Thou art guaranteed paradise and 72 big bosomed houris (and/or charming young boys), along with other fringes, if you cough up big bucks and take a trip to Mecca. Poverty stricken chaps and losers among you who cannot afford the trip, can earn the same privileges and more by participating in Jihad and killing the infidels. The jihadis will get the additional bonus of sharing the booty and beautiful women from the captured infidel lands.

4. Thou shalt marry a maximum of four wives at a time, except for my messenger whom I have exempted from this limit since his needs are equal to the needs of 30 horny men. However Thou art allowed to change your wives at will for variety and maintenance of your harem quality by divorcing them and acquiring younger specimens. Old bags lose their charm and excitement and must be replenished with a fresh supply. Try to acquire younger and better looking ones preferably virgins, leave the older ones and ugliest for the losers and old fogies.

5. Thou art allowed to have unlimited number of slaves and captive women and have sex with them, it is halal for you. Gay guys among you will have to wait for their fun, we will provide them with charming young boys in paradise. Alcohol lovers, hold your horses until you make it to the paradise, there will be rivers flowing with wine, up there.

6. For those amongst you who have pedophilic tendencies, we have made underage children halal for marriage and your carnal pleasure. However let them keep and play with their dolls while you are at it so that their attention is diverted from their pain and shock. Thou art also allowed to marry your daughter in law in case you keep getting excited by her voluptuous body every time you happen to see her in skimpy clothes.

7 Thou can demand sex from your women any time and anywhere, even on a camel's back. Thou shalt keep a lash or a green stick handy in case they refuse and need a good beating. However while doing it on a camels back with your wife, make sure that the hijab is maintained by keeping all yours and her body parts covered with the burka during the action. In case of doing it with your slave girl on a camel’s back hijab requirement is exempted, you are allowed to enjoy the sunshine and the fresh air along with her curves.

8. Thou shalt not listen to music, watch t.v. or go to the movies, these activities are haram for you. However thou shalt take your family to watch beheadings of apostates and kafirs, cutting of hands and feet of petty thieves, and stoning of adulterers, their viewing is halal for you.

9.Thou shalt not indulge in haram professions like selling non halal meat, food items with lard in it, or confectionary even with 1% liquor in it or working in interest charging banks and mortgage companies etc. Thou shalt only indulge in clean and halal means of earning livelihood like slave trading, looting infidel caravans and communities, killing Jews and acquiring their goods and properties, extortion of jizya and kharaj from captured lands, and booty earning bloody Jihads.

10. Ramadan Rules. Thou art not allowed the pleasure of eating or drinking during the fast (except for wives who have to taste food lest their husbands beat them up for cooking foul tasting food) but thou art allowed to kiss your wives, slaves (only female) and the women your right hand posses, to wait out the rough afternoon hungry period. Thou art not allowed to eat pigs but thou art allowed to pig out after breaking the fast. Thou art not allowed to have conjugal relationship during the fast but art allowed to break a fast with sex instead of food. Husbands are allowed to prohibit wives from fasting to keep the ladies fresh and beautiful for a romantic evening after a hard day of fasting.



Dr Ahmad holds a PhD in medical ethics and works to integrate ethics and the humanities into global health research and pedagogy.

Her research expertise is in transcultural psychiatry and cross-cultural mental health. She particularly work in contexts of conflict and humanitarian crisis resulting from disasters including environmental change. Dr Ahmad develops trauma therapeutic interventions using traditional storytelling and has an ongoing research project in Kashmir (India) and Turkey, in collaboration with Afghanistan, Tunisia, and South Africa; www.shaercircle.com (http://www.shaercircle.com/)
Dr Ahmad's specialisation is in psychological trauma and the ethical consequences of concepts that are used in mental health. She has developed both undergraduate and postgraduate courses in culture and mental health.
In her work, Dr Ahmad critically explores the notion of land trauma, as it is juxtaposed with a medicalised and biomedical paradigm of a temporal understanding of post-traumatic stress disorder.
At St Georges University of London, Dr Ahmad has established as Global Health Humanities Hub to bring together scholars and students using humanities-based methodologies to approach and respond to global health inequities and injustice.
Dr Ahmad also works as an Expert Witness providing academic reports on asylum seeker cases related to war, mental health, and gender-based violence.

[Loki]

Yes, unfortunately it is a fact that to most European men, the Muslim hijab is very unappealing, and an instant turn-off.

[coolfrenchguy]

What do you think when you see these pictures of Europe? Third world backward shit or aesthetic enrichment ?

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It's ugly and depressing but they are right, it's their choice and people can dress as they want. Covering the head was something very common for european women a few decades or one century back, but they had usually better aesthetics than these horrendous and alien hijabs.

Third world backward shit,and it's became more and more threatening our european cultures/customs/values
like eating pork,drinking wine and wearing a skirt if you are a girl/women, even when you are faithfull and married

UK is suiciding itself ,in one century at this speed,UK will been no more a european country but an "europistan" country ,you couldn't been progressive and muslim it's completly incompatible
you couldn't embrace gender equality and islam it's incompatible

[JosephK]

I've always found it ironic that the hijab is intended for modesty, but is often very appealing and fashionable. Muslim girls often know this and take advantage of it. Especially for MENA women, it can easily 'frame' the face in such a way as to accentuate the wearer's attractive facial features.

[JosephK]

Yes, unfortunately it is a fact that to most European men, the Muslim hijab is very unappealing, and an instant turn-off.

That's probably just a response from the shame the man feels for trying to objectify a modest woman.

[Teutone]

Why would a self proclaimed christian put emphasis on being turned on by women you are not married too?

Every female biblical figure had a headscarv and every church actual demands women to cover up.

Headscarv can make a woman beautiful in a non-sexual way, they are the women with most honor, not trying to be sexualized and objectived.

[Rumata]

No point to specify "Non Muslims" if you make the poll closed.

[Albertón]

yes.

[Loki]

That's probably just a response from the shame the man feels for trying to objectify a modest woman.

Erm, I don't think so.

[Ion Basescul]

It's unnecessary. Makes me think of 80yo grandmas from the countryside.

[Rædwald]

I find it unattractive. I think seeing a woman's hair is important, and part of their beauty. Also, it could be part of sexual selection, healthy hair is a sign of good health.