Article about Czech genetics

[Peterski]

This fragment is especially interesting:

https://english.radio.cz/czechs-are-predominantly-descendants-pre-slavic-populations-says-archaeogenetics-8124928

"(...) Within the country there are also noticeable regional divides in ancestry. Czechs from South-West Bohemia are closer to the Bavarian population, whereas their compatriots from Eastern Bohemia are closer to Poles, Slovaks and Moravians.

Furthermore, Dr. Beneš says it is important to distinguish between the indigenous lowland populations and those from Sudeten mountain border areas.

The latter was radically changed in the aftermath of World War II. However, even the Sudeten Germans, who originally lived in this area, only settled during the Middle Ages. The origins of the Czech lowlands population are much older. (...)"

^^^
If the highlighted part is true then it would mean that Czechs from SW Bohemia are Slavicized Celto-Germanics with no or little Slavic admix.

[Polak]

Improbable that they have "little Slavic admix" considering Austrians and some Bavarians are close to a quarter Slavic genetically and they speak Germanic languages.

[Karol Klačansky]

Lol Czechs may be genetically closer to Germans than they are to Russians genetically but they aren't closer to the English or French than they are to Russians. Saying they have a closer affinity to western eruopean than to eastern is utter B.S and totally biased. Also Czech people are on average around 50-70% Slavic from the samples I've seen. Czechs, Slovaks, and poles often love to imagine themselves being western Europeans. What's wrong about being associated with slavs.

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[Arūnas]

Lol Czechs may be genetically closer to Germans than they are to Russians genetically but they aren't closer to the English or French than they are to Russians. Saying they have a closer affinity to western eruopean than to eastern is utter B.S and totally biased. Also Czech people are on average around 50-70% Slavic from the samples I've seen. Czechs, Slovaks, and poles often love to imagine themselves being western Europeans. What's wrong about being associated with slavs.

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yes, it is clearly seen on that example, Czechs and Slovaks means more than "poles", greetings

[Satem]

Lol Czechs may be genetically closer to Germans than they are to Russians genetically but they aren't closer to the English or French than they are to Russians. Saying they have a closer affinity to western eruopean than to eastern is utter B.S and totally biased. Also Czech people are on average around 50-70% Slavic from the samples I've seen. Czechs, Slovaks and Poles often love to imagine themselves being western Europeans. What's wrong about being associated with slavs.

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Oh yeah, Czechs are so ashamed of being Slavs xD, just one of examples actually they are not

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTXHrpyLsZ8/

We just don't to be associated with West, panslavist shit came from Prague after all and it's Nitra who made monument for Slavic genocide(it's in Slavic as fuck thread), we just want to be found as UNIQUE from Russkies

[Ion Basescul]

This fragment is especially interesting:

https://english.radio.cz/czechs-are-predominantly-descendants-pre-slavic-populations-says-archaeogenetics-8124928

"(...) Within the country there are also noticeable regional divides in ancestry. Czechs from South-West Bohemia are closer to the Bavarian population, whereas their compatriots from Eastern Bohemia are closer to Poles, Slovaks and Moravians.

Furthermore, Dr. Beneš says it is important to distinguish between the indigenous lowland populations and those from Sudeten mountain border areas.

The latter was radically changed in the aftermath of World War II. However, even the Sudeten Germans, who originally lived in this area, only settled during the Middle Ages. The origins of the Czech lowlands population are much older. (...)"

^^^
If the highlighted part is true then it would mean that Czechs from SW Bohemia are Slavicized Celto-Germanics with no or little Slavic admix.

Closer doesn't mean identical. A difference of 0.01% is closer and so is 10%.

[Karol Klačansky]

Oh yeah, Czechs are so ashamed of being Slavs xD, just one of examples actually they are not

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTXHrpyLsZ8/

We just don't to be associated with West, panslavist shit came from Prague after all and it's Nitra who made monument for Slavic genocide(it's in Slavic as fuck thread), we just want to be found as UNIQUE from RusskiesNot all Czechs are ashamed but many Czechs love to claim they are more similar to Germans than to any other Slavic people. The are wannabe westerners but for the rest of western Europe and they u.s they will never be. Just be proud of what u are.

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[Peterski]

Improbable that they have "little Slavic admix" considering Austrians and some Bavarians are close to a quarter Slavic genetically and they speak Germanic languages.

Austrians do, but Bavarians generally do not have Slavic admixture.

[cakmir7y]

Not all Czechs are ashamed but many Czechs love to claim they are more similar to Germans than to any other Slavic people. The are wannabe westerners but for the rest of western Europe and they u.s they will never be. Just be proud of what u are.

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Unfortunately, you are right. What has become quite popular over the last years is to present statistics of czech Y dna where there is generally about 40% of R1a and 30% of R1b, and then retardedly conclude from it that "one third of the population are basically westerners" or the "we are only about half slavic" haha

[Art23]

Czechs are trying to be Czelts.

Judging by my matches, many Czechs have ancestry from Transcarpathia and the rest of Ukraine.

[cakmir7y]

Czechs are trying to be Czelts.

Judging by my matches, many Czechs have ancestry from Transcarpathia and the rest of Ukraine.

How exactly do you do that?

[Karol Klačansky]

Unfortunately, you are right. What has become quite popular over the last years is to present statistics of czech Y dna where there is generally about 40% of R1a and 30% of R1b, and then retardedly conclude from it that "one third of the population are basically westerners" or the "we are only about half slavic" hahaThey concluded from that, that only one third of Czechs have a Slavic origin, as if the original slavs were 100% R1a. It's as if the Slavic language and identity just came out of no where but in reality Czechs are something totally differnt.

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[Art23]

How exactly do you do that?

I check family trees of my DNA matches on Myheritage, FTDNA, Ancestry. On 23&me people can indicate countries where their grandparents were born. In any case, I don't have any Czech ancestry. So, when I see Czech matches, I am pretty sure that they have ancestry from Ukraine.

[Polak]

I have some recent Czech ancestry but 23andme and myheritage gave me Hungary as a location, not Czechia. Makes me wonder if my ancestors were from the Pannonian master race instead. :cool:

[Arūnas]

The Czechs are unique

[TeutonicBoyars]

Honestly wasn't worth making a thread about this. It's just another garbage article with an "attention-grabbing" headline designed to get clicks with little or no substance. I expected to find an academic paper or some studies to back this up, but then I realized I was being extremely stupid for about 5 seconds and why would I expect any article like this to have one.

Even if there was a genetic study I'm not sure how the date of Western European admixture would be inferred from migration era to Late Medieval/Early Modern Times when the German population began to really assimilate into Czech culture.

Regardless, no, the highlighted part is not true, it's just conjecture designed to garner views.