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Hamilcar
09-06-2021, 05:01 PM
Ancient genomes from a rural site in Imperial Rome (1st–3rd cent. CE): a genetic junction in the Roman Empire :



We generated reliable whole-genome data for 7 samples surviving quality controls. The distribution of Imperial Romans from QCP partly overlaps with present-day Southern Mediterranean and Southern-Near Eastern populations.




Imperial Rome individuals from QCP suggest a certain degree of similarity with North African and Middle Eastern individuals. Specifically, QCP43 is placed among present-day Israelis and Jordanians, while QCP29, QCP39, QCP40, and QCP42 fall in the North African cluster

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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03014460.2021.1944313

full paper here : https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03014460.2021.1944313


They were basically similar to modern moroccans and tunisians. "MUH ARABS MUH BLACK SLAVES" :rolleyes:

chinshen
09-06-2021, 05:08 PM
This does not really mean that they were natives to Italy, the Roman brought many slaves from all over their vast empire.

Hamilcar
09-06-2021, 05:10 PM
This does not really mean that they were natives to Italy, the Roman brought many slaves from all over their vast empire.

who said they were native to italy ?? The paper talks about either a community of soldiers or punic slaves

This simply shows again that north africans didn't change much despite what eurocentrists and afrocentrists are constantly saying.

chinshen
09-06-2021, 05:42 PM
who said they were native to italy ?? The paper talks about either a community of soldiers or punic slaves

This simply shows again that north africans didn't change much despite what eurocentrists and afrocentrists are constantly saying.

Then we are in agreement here. I thought you implied that they were native.

Hamilcar
09-06-2021, 08:35 PM
bump

Lucas
09-07-2021, 08:24 PM
who said they were native to italy ?? The paper talks about either a community of soldiers or punic slaves

This simply shows again that north africans didn't change much despite what eurocentrists and afrocentrists are constantly saying.

I can speculate Punic as a mix of North African + Phoenician (so Levantine) were not like modern Tunesians who have instead more south Arab blood?

Hamilcar
09-07-2021, 09:00 PM
I can speculate Punic as a mix of North African + Phoenician (so Levantine) were not like modern Tunesians who have instead more south Arab blood?

Maybe in early periods, before the VIth century when Carthage was still under Tyre's influence but honestly all the datas we have so far show a very north african profile (this includes craniometric mesures)