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Östsvensk
09-10-2021, 04:19 PM
UPDATE: Since publication of this article, the Turkish DNA Project deleted their tweet.

The Turkish DNA Project, a misinformation portal on Facebook and Twitter known for posting genetic graphs and charts without references or sources, expressed frustration with Ancestry.com, the largest for-profit genealogy company in the world.

The misinformation project called for “all Turks to boycott this company: Ancestry.”

“AncestryDNA prioritizes to demonize the Turkish people and delegitimaze their presence in Turkey rather than giving information about the genetic structure of the relevant population,” they said in a Twitter post.

The main reason for their frustration?

Because Ancestry.com correctly highlighted that many Turkish citizens are indeed mostly unrelated to Turkic peoples from Central Asia and are rather native Anatolian people that have been Turkified.

Of course, the Turkish DNA Project’s graphs, charts and data present another “truth.”

However, these are in complete opposition to science, hence their call for Ancestry.com to boycotted as science continually disproves their misinformation campaign.

Ancestry.com highlighted that after the Ottoman conquest of Pontos in today’s Turkey’s southeastern Black Sea coast, the “Pontian Greeks adopted Turkish language and culture, and many converted to Islam in order to have greater opportunities in Turkish society.”

Ancestry.com also highlighted that another round of Turkification of Pontian Greeks occurred after the second Russo-Turkish War (1828-29).

Ancestry.com also detailed the Turkish-perpetrated genocide (1913-1923), particularly against the Armenians.

It also noted that the so-called Turkish DNA Project deleted many of their older tweets of fake genetic graphs and so-called results that present Turkish citizens as having higher amounts of Turkic DNA then actual reality.

With the advent of genetic testing, more and more Turkish citizens and diaspora communities are discovering that they are actually Turkified peoples, mostly pointing towards Greek.

More Turkish citizens are discovering that they are in fact not Turkish.

It is for this reason that the role of the so-called Turkish DNA Project is to create doubt among those who do genetic testing from legitimate companies like Ancestry.com and discovery that they are in fact not Turkic.

A famous case of a Turkish citizen discovering they are Greek is Yannis Vasilis Yaylalı, born Ibrahim Yaylalı.

Yannis was a former Turkish ultra-nationalist that was proud of his enmity towards Kurds and other indigenous peoples of Asia Minor.

However, he soon discovered he was actually Greek, became Christian and then became an activist for minorities in Turkey despite originally joining the Turkish Army to kill them, as reported by The Armenian Weekly.

Uzay Bulut, a Turkey-born journalist, also responded to the call by the Turkish DNA Project to boycott Ancestry.com.

“Why are Turkish nationalists so terrified of the truth? Because if they face it, the lies they’ve come up with will be shattered to the ground,” she said on Twitter.

“Through these lies, hatred has grown which made them commit so many crimes against Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Jews and others,” Bulut said.

“Then they will realize that by destroying those peoples, they’ve actually destroyed their own ancestors and cultural heritage,” the journalist said, adding: “The truth will set us all free and bring much needed peace to the region.”

https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/06/01/turkish-dna-project-greeks-turkified/amp/#

placebo
09-10-2021, 04:27 PM
bullshit

ancestry.com does propaganda and turkishdnaproject is right. does anyone really believe this bullshit?

Catalyn
09-10-2021, 04:44 PM
Let's see how it goes.
According to science, man appeared in Africa. From there, he migrated to all parts of the world.
The first people to arrive in Anatolia said that this was their territory.
But they were conquered by another population.
Following the mixture of the 2 populations, another population came out.
Then came other migrants.
The mix of these 3 ethnic groups gave birth to another.
Then came other migrants.
The mix of these 4 ethnicities gave birth to another.
And so, the story repeats itself. 500 populations came, and the mix of those 500 populations gave birth to another.
Those who lost Anatolia always said that Anatolia was theirs and they want it back.
This was a continuous flow. We know the last one best. And the mix of 500, 900 or 3948349 previous populations in Anatolia was conquered by a Turk.
Maybe in the future, other peoples and languages ​​will come.
This has been happening for millions of years, since the appearance of life on earth, or hundreds of thousands of years, or just thousands of years. There are millions of possible variants, when man first appeared on earth and when the first humans appeared in Anatolia.
Science has an opinion. Religion has a different opinion. But there are many kinds of science and many kinds of religion.
What is certain is that Turkey is the result of a unique and unrepeatable mix. As is every country in the world.
Regardless of whether they are more similar to the Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, etc. They are simply unique. Each ethnic group has a unique history.

To make it easier to understand, imagine that in a country on another planet, a country called XYZ has a population of 1000 families.
At one point, a war broke out between those 1,000 families for various reasons between families.
The country is divided, and the war between these families will last forever, they will always quarrel, they will always have other religions, other mentalities, other traditions, they will wage wars and borders for thousands or tens of thousands of years.
This is what happens between Anatolians, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, etc.
Although in the basic background of their DNA they come from the same ancestors.
Meanwhile, some families mingled with families from other continents, with whom they found peace, found marriage partners, shared a religion, and strengthened the country's borders.
In the middle of that family came a population from another continent (eg Turkic), while the other countries mingled with other peoples (eg Arab / Italic / Balkan / etc).
And so, each ethnic group differs today: Turkey, Greece, Armenia, the Balkans, the Orient, etc. Although they are based on the same ancestors, they don't care anymore, they fought a hundred years of war, they killed each other.
So: What happens to these Turks who change their religion, nationality and language after a DNA test?
Anyway, he can do it, it's his choice. But will everyone start doing that? If so, I came to a conclusion: A DNA test can change the destiny of your life. OK. A change in life is welcome. But what if DNA tests aren't accurate?

Hektor12
09-10-2021, 05:14 PM
OMEGAFACEPALM

I love how Greeks still keep their hopes but this is bizarre. In which logic can Turkish_Trabzon and Greek_Trabzon be real Greeks? Theyre native people of the region with strongest connections to caucasians and Anatolians, barely if any connections with Greece.

Lucas
09-10-2021, 05:40 PM
OMEGAFACEPALM

I love how Greeks still keep their hopes but this is bizarre. In which logic can Turkish_Trabzon and Greek_Trabzon be real Greeks? Theyre native people of the region with strongest connections to caucasians and Anatolians, barely if any connections with Greece.

True. They are just natives to region, once started to speak Greek, then in the same manner Turkified.

Mitryejd
09-10-2021, 05:49 PM
you guys think Yannis Vasilis Yaylalı type does not pass in mainland Greece
that's also bullshit

zebruh
09-10-2021, 08:45 PM
you guys think Yannis Vasilis Yaylalı type does not pass in mainland Greece
that's also bullshitCould be of greek heritage. But mixed.
Herodotus wasn't full greek.

Peterski
09-10-2021, 10:13 PM
But this is bullshit they are not Greeks, they are only partially Greek.

Here is an example of Turk from Trabzon scoring 1/3 Pontic Greek:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdjN0f9-uWU

Adana Turk scoring nearly 1/4 Greek:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHUTmEh-u-I&t=18s

3/4 Turk + 1/4 Chechen person results:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMxxzrEEP4

Here is an example of a Western Turk scoring 1/3 Greek, not 100%:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=800HwLpuR-A

Being 1/3 Greek is not the same as being 100% Greek.

Guys from the Turkish DNA Project are more right here.

JamesBond007
09-10-2021, 11:17 PM
But this is bullshit they are not Greeks, they are only partially Greek.



AncestryDNA is trash. It is run by American Mormons who the fuck thinks American Mormons can do science ? They are fruitcakes.

zebruh
09-11-2021, 12:49 AM
AncestryDNA is trash. It is run by American Mormons who the fuck thinks American Mormons can do science ? They are fruitcakes.Its accurate on a continental level. The subcatagories aren't good. The genetic communities isn't perfect. Its hit and miss (doesnt pick it up)