Does this man pass better in Portugal or Pakistan?

[Tooting Carmen]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/%C4%B0lker_Ayc%C4%B1_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-%C4%B0lker_Ayc%C4%B1_%28cropped%29.jpg

[El_Jibaro]

What a question :lmao.

Neither, imo. He looks Turkish or Levantine to me.

[TheMaestro]

Colombia

[Tooting Carmen]

Colombia

He does actually. :D But I was wondering where in the Old World he could pass, besides of course his native country and places nearby?

[El_Jibaro]

He does actually. :D But I was wondering where in the Old World he could pass, besides of course his native country and places nearby?

What is his native country?

[Tooting Carmen]

What is his native country?

He is the Chair of Turkish Airlines, which flies to more countries in the world than any other airline.

[El_Jibaro]

He is the Chair of Turkish Airlines, which flies to more countries in the world than any other airline.

Are you being paid by Turkish Airlines? This sounds like an ad :lmao.

Oh, so I was correct. He could pass somewhat as South Asian now that I look at him again, but I don't really see him in Portugal. Maybe only as atypical.

[Tooting Carmen]

Are you being paid by Turkish Airlines? This sounds like an ad :lmao.

Oh, so I was correct. He could pass somewhat as South Asian now that I look at him again, but I don't really see him in Portugal. Maybe only as atypical.

IMO many Turks, Kavkazians and to a lesser extent Levantines and even Iranians have an "ambiguous swarthy" look which enables them to pass to varying degrees in a number of places.

[zebruh]

He looks like he could be half portuguese half pakistani

[El_Jibaro]

IMO many Turks, Kavkazians and to a lesser extent Levantines and even Iranians have an "ambiguous swarthy" look which enables them to pass to varying degrees in a number of places.

I thought Freddie Mercury was just a normal British guy as a kid.

[Tooting Carmen]

I thought Freddie Mercury was just a normal British guy as a kid.

Me too. xD

[Tooting Carmen]

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[punkx]

He passes quite well in Pakistan.

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[Tooting Carmen]

He passes quite well in Pakistan.

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What percentage of Pakistanis would you say look similar to him?

[Pro.crasti.nation]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/%C4%B0lker_Ayc%C4%B1_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-%C4%B0lker_Ayc%C4%B1_%28cropped%29.jpg

Shit!

That guy looks like some sylheti I know!

He looks very desi, for a Turkish person. I guess I shouldn't be so surprised...

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Me too. xD

Really?

I always saw him as Pakistani looking. The exact spit' of a Pakistani school friend!

[Tooting Carmen]

Really?

I always saw him as Pakistani looking. The exact spit' of a Pakistani school friend!

I just thought he was an 'exotic White' when growing up:
https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_4:3%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTc5OTQ5ODk3MTMzMzM1ODk2/gettyimages-1176816280.jpg

[Pro.crasti.nation]

I just thought he was an 'exotic White' when growing up:
https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_4:3%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTc5OTQ5ODk3MTMzMzM1ODk2/gettyimages-1176816280.jpg

That's definitely a more "white" photo of him!

I mostly saw him at his mustacheod mincing mid-'80s pomp. Looked like a certain type of Pakistani.

[mergen3]

Pakistan

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[placebo]

more portugal i don't see any paki vibe tbh.

[CommonSense]

Dumb question, and I can't believe so many are saying Pakistani. This is how the average non-Pashtun Pakistani looks like:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/main-images/000_Nic6261121.jpg

[punkx]

Dumb question, and I can't believe so many are saying Pakistani. This is how the average non-Pashtun Pakistani looks like:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/main-images/000_Nic6261121.jpg

Definately not. I would associate this crowd to be best representative of eastern UP or Bihar.

Ordinary people from Lucknow-https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/0a9bec749b54cfa8f9f3d01e2140fb7d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/f8805b5e7afd1b46dafd13c891255720.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/7c4db1a3045def63c03e5d4c29ac8d18.jpg

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[GoalPoacher]

This guy is probably from Eastern Turkey because he doesn't look mixed race/Asian mixed like other Turks. Regarding his looks, he doesn't look either Portuguese or Pakistani. He simply just looks Northern Iranian and Armenian.

Edit: I just checked Wikipedia and apparently he's from Giresun, Eastern Turkey, so I was right.

East Eurasian admixture is 15% in Giresun on average, which makes it second in all Turkish cities right after Muğla. Have knowledge before having an opinion.

[GoalPoacher]

Btw, why would a Turk pass in South Asia or Iberia? He's unpassable in both.

[Gallop]

xd I don't know where we are going

[Tooting Carmen]

Btw, why would a Turk pass in South Asia or Iberia? He's unpassable in both.

As I said, many West Asians have an ambiguous/versatile look that enables them to pass to varying degrees in many places.

[Avicenna]

Pakistan

[CommonSense]

Definately not. I would associate this crowd to be best representative of eastern UP or Bihar.

Ordinary people from Lucknow-https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/0a9bec749b54cfa8f9f3d01e2140fb7d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/f8805b5e7afd1b46dafd13c891255720.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/7c4db1a3045def63c03e5d4c29ac8d18.jpg

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I simply googled searched for images of Pakistanis. Most of them resemble the men from the photo I posted, if not by features then by pigmentation for sure.

[punkx]

I simply googled searched for images of Pakistanis. Most of them resemble the men from the photo I posted, if not by features then by pigmentation for sure.I don't think google is a reliable source for phenotype stuff if you're not familiar with the population first hand. Images one finds there are of people one would see on the street, (that is, primarily the working class) which in case of South Asia also implies different genetic admixture compared to middle and upper classes of the same region, as working class jobs are overwhelmingly carried out by lower castes.

Range of phenotypes among non-dalit Indian Punjabis-
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210913/af0bf59ba87efbeb5a7d408a141524fa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210913/508b9a494ec5a7fdf8e790aad9ddda44.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210913/edc50603c49a99a66133d61d1bb937dd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210913/3a71a2af7f966cdb645ffe2abd3bab4d.jpg

Posting Indian ones since I am more familiar with them. For some reason Eastern Punjabis are less Ancestral South Indian shifted compared to Western Punjabis, but not like it would make that much of a difference in phenotype.

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[Tooting Carmen]

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[Ellethwyn]

At first glance i thought Pakistan... but the longer i looked at him the more he looked like neither, but i agree with zebruh, he looks like a mix of the two.

[bvnny]

Pakistan

[Tooting Carmen]

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[reboun]

Portugal but passes better in Iran.

[miruna99]

Its close but Pakistan edges it due to diversity and far bigger population.

[Tongio]

Its close but Pakistan edges it due to diversity and far bigger population.

I now understood it lady, I garantee to you that people from pakistan do not pass as portuguese , like you told me his features are very foreign even to me a brasilian.

[Odelia]

Pakistan

He clearly looks fucking eastern

[Flub]

Portugal.

[Didac]

He looks like he could be half portuguese half pakistani


Probably be perfect for his genetics as he’s most likely western Asian Turkish etc. He fits in neither population but no way he’d pass in Portugal he might have a shot in balochi section in the most western reigon in Pakistan he’d have no shot in Portugal

[Odelia]

Where are the loud Iberians in here? How the fuck is Portugal winning and why are y'all quiet? That man will stick out like a sore thumb in Iberia and all of Europe really (unless maybe in multicultural London area). He looks so fucking Afghan/Iranic that it hurts!

[Rémy]

Both since Portuguese and Pakistani look the same.

[Tongio]

Where are the loud Iberians in here? How the fuck is Portugal winning and why are y'all quiet? That man will stick out like a sore thumb in Iberia and all of Europe really (unless maybe in multicultural London area). He looks so fucking Afghan/Iranic that it hurts!

Portuguese members of TA are not loud at all, they have great posture in general, they dont even loose their time in such things.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Both since Portuguese and Pakistani look the same.

I need to correct myself: 90% of your posts are about Iberians (both Spaniards and Portuguese), and not just Spaniards.

How said is your life?

[Rémy]

I need to correct myself: 90% of your posts are about Iberians (both Spaniards and Portuguese), and not just Spaniards.


If Iberians were not so much brown and so much butthurt about that it would not be so funny to tickle them about that issue.

It's kind of sad that they are so much brown and butthurt, but kind of funny too.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

If Iberians were not so much brown and so much butthurt about that it would not be so funny to tickle them about that issue.

It's kind of sad that they are so much brown and butthurt, but kind of funny too.

As someone who is frequently confused for a Spaniard will you be learning Castillian? It makes sense for you to do so.



I'am actually French, but it's funny that I'am frequently mistaken as Spanish.


You don't know how to read. The first guessing on my thread was that I'am Slavic, Czech, Slovak, Polish. At the end of the 1st page of my thread, one said that I look more Italian than Spanish. One other, just before I reveal my real ethnicity, said that he doesn't see Spanish for me. So before I reveal my results, there was early on about a 50/50 ratio of people who guessed me as Spanish and of people who don't.

[bvnny]

If Iberians were not so much brown and so much butthurt about that it would not be so funny to tickle them about that issue.

It's kind of sad that they are so much brown and butthurt, but kind of funny too.

Are you really a citizen of Liechtenstein? Mirin