Excellent example of a pure Iranid ( Iranian actor Phoenix Raei)

[Avicenna]

I would say this is a really good example of an iranid . He can pass in all parts of Iranian pleateau . Where else can he pass?

https://i.ibb.co/wpc1FHx/MV5-BODgz-NDk2-MTEt-Zj-Ay-ZS00-OWU0-LTk5-ZDYt-Yz-Jm-YThj-Nz-Fh-MGEy-Xk-Ey-Xk-Fqc-Gde-QXVy-Mj-Qw-MDg0.jpg (https://ibb.co/frD7zRP)
https://i.ibb.co/vXmzkTQ/253ef032073b68ea0522dfd10a08e3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/w45CYKG/Clickbait-Cast-Netflix-Phoenix-Raei-Roshan-Amir.jpg (https://ibb.co/YhH8btn)
https://i.ibb.co/yN3FV4X/phoenix.jpg (https://ibb.co/Bf12wnt)
https://i.ibb.co/ZzqNpS4/AAAABQRrzfxi-Fh-RTh-C5-B4-L2-Uj-Avt-X-Mo-Mwmy-Yqlb-SGFFNfa6-On5-q-FVTye-Tf-V6-V9yf4-WVXr5-BSd9-C-RJE.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Samnium]

I think he can definitely pass in Italy although some pictures are a bit off, but he doesn't look outlandish as some peninsular arabic phenotypes or berber.

[Avicenna]

I think he can definitely pass in Italy although some pictures are a bit off, but he doesn't look outlandish as some peninsular arabic phenotypes or berber.

That's because , and I'm probably using some sort of psuedo science here , the iranid phentype formed by the mixture of Yamnaya / steppe folk + CHG Iranian farmers . Both are not far off from what you get in southern Europe / Balkans ( steppe + Anatolian farmers )

Also, I think he passes a little better in Greece rather than italy no?

[Samnium]

That's because , and I'm probably using some sort of psuedo science here , the iranid phentype formed by the mixture of Yamnaya / steppe folk + CHG Iranian farmers . Both are not far off from what you get in southern Europe / Balkans ( steppe + Anatolian farmers )

Absolutely, though Iranians and Europeans are different people, they are not strangers apart, I have seen italians that could pass in Iran and viceversa.

It's not Kuwait or Egypt, Iranians are generally fairer skinned and display more fair traits too (steppe inheritage through the people of the past).

[Hektor12]

His nose is med. His skull isnt angled. And wheres side profile? IMO more med than Iranid.

[Immanenz]

i think he looks more like a robust Irano Med (Eurafricanid/Cappadocien intermediate)- i also think he passes to some degree in Greece.

[Hamilcar]

Very west asian looking

that's the kind of average iranian I have in mind when I think of Iranians

[Avicenna]

His nose is med. His skull isnt angled. And wheres side profile? IMO more med than Iranid.

He has a high head , his nose can be found among iranids, o mean what kind of med are you talking about? Both types have straight or aquliiine noses.

[Dr_Maul]

I agree he is fairly stereotypical

[reboun]

Yes, Iranid.

[Hektor12]

He has a high head , his nose can be found among iranids, o mean what kind of med are you talking about? Both types have straight or aquliiine noses.

As far as i know, 2 important signs of Iranid are vertical forehead and angular skull. His forehead is sloping and his skull is roundish.

[Avicenna]

As far as i know, 2 important signs of Iranid are vertical forehead and angular skull. His forehead is sloping and his skull is roundish.

And that's a meddish trait? Isn't the irano afghan race part of the greater eastern Mediterranean race anyways ? I've seen many iranids with those traits so I'm not too sure.

[kevinmac]

His nose is med. His skull isnt angled. And wheres side profile? IMO more med than Iranid.

Honestly, there is barely any difference between the 2. Iranid is basically East-Med.

[Avicenna]

Honestly, there is barely any difference between the 2. Iranid is basically East-Med.

It's basically the eastern version of atlanto med

[Avgvstvs]

It's basically the eastern version of atlanto medWhat's Pontid then?

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[Immanenz]

And that's a meddish trait? Isn't the irano afghan race part of the greater eastern Mediterranean race anyways ? I've seen many iranids with those traits so I'm not too sure.

i think you have to seperate looking Iranian from "textbook Iranio-Afgan". Hektor is right, saying his fetures are more generalistic Med, even though he has def. Iranid too. One of the traits he lacks is that he isnt that narrow vaulted. Agree also that the nose is usually more prominent in combination with hyperleptothrine, this is enhanced obv. with a narrower vault.

Coon´s textbook example was this individual and he said because of great facial and nasal height, and its general cast of cranial features especially high and narrow cranial vault
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe187.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate18.htm

I do think Iranids have a different facial feature characteristic than other Meds
the protrudiing nsoe with the very long face- used also in the human phenotypes moprh most likely inspired by Eickstedt examples:
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/eickstedt/iranid3.jpg
http://humanphenotypes.net/iranidm.jpg

but there are a lot of examples with stronger robustitiy with affinity to Proto Iranid like ex footballer Hossein Badamaki while in reality there a lot broader faced types like OP (Ansarifard from AEK Athen would be on the more extreme low and broadheaded Eurafricanid spectrum)

[Avgvstvs]

i think you have to seperate looking Iranian from "textbook Iranio-Afgan". Hektor is right, saying his fetures are more generalistic Med, even though he has def. Iranid too. One of the traits he lacks is that he isnt that narrow vaulted. Agree also that the nose is usually more prominent in combination with hyperleptothrine, this is enhanced obv. with a narrower vault.

Coon´s textbook example was this individual and he said because of great facial and nasal height, and its general cast of cranial features
[img]https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe187.jpg[/img
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate18.htm

I do think Iranids have a different facial feature characteristic than other Meds
the protrudiing nsoe with the very long face- used also in the human phenotypes moprh most likely inspired by Eickstedt examples:
[img]https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/eickstedt/iranid3.jpg[/img
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/eickstedt/iranid3.jpg
[img]http://humanphenotypes.net/iranidm.jpg[/img

but there are a lot of examples with stronger robustitiy with affinity to Proto Iranid like ex footballer Hossein Badamaki while in reality there a lot broader faced types like OP (Ansarifard from AEK Athen would be on the more extreme low and broadheaded Eurafricanid spectrum)With Eurafricanid you just mean a synonim for Atlanto-Med, right?

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[Immanenz]

With Eurafricanid you just mean a synonim for Atlanto-Med, right?

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its simply a longer faced (including also robuster forms), long headed Med type- and when it comes to Coon it should be dolicephalic as well which makes it peak according to him in North Africa.

[Avgvstvs]

its simply a longer faced (including also robuster forms), long headed Med type- and when it comes to Coon it should be dolicephalic as well which makes it peak according to him in North Africa.I have seen that label being used as synonim of Atlanto-Med, which is not common in North Africa though.
The site humanphenotypes calls it so.

What do you think?

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[Mortimer]

He can pass well as turk or greek I agree with the others saying Italian as well

[Immanenz]

I have seen that label being used as synonim of Atlanto-Med, which is not common in North Africa though.
The site humanphenotypes calls it so.

What do you think?


Atlanto Med, as its used by most is a phenotype mainly connected to West Med area- including straight nosed long faced types. As a phenotype its more connected to a certain look. Coon´s Atlanto Med was more concerned on the cranial length- thats why he had it peak in North Africa. I would not use Eurafricanid as synoumus as Atlanto Med- rather as a more generalized terms for long faced Med types

[Avgvstvs]

Atlanto Med, as its used by most is a phenotype mainly connected to West Med area- including straight nosed long faced types. As a phenotype its more connected to a certain look. Coon´s Atlanto Med was more concerned on the cranial length- thats why he had it peak in North Africa. I would not use Eurafricanid as synoumus as Atlanto Med- rather as a more generalized terms for long faced Med typesInteresting, so a broad term.

What did Coon say about Atlanto-Med?

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[CommonSense]

He ain't Iranid at all.

An Eastern Mediterranean type. I would have sooner guessed him as something like Cypriot.

[Avicenna]

He ain't Iranid at all.

An Eastern Mediterranean type. I would have sooner guessed him as something like Cypriot.

Just because he appears cypriot to you, it doesn't negate the reality which is , he is an iranid . He is . Everyone else thinks so too , plus he doesn't look levantine to me . If he was east med , he would have gived off a levantine vibe.

Iranians


https://i.ibb.co/d41Ys50/al-ain-fc-vs-esteghlal-tehran-f-c-united-arab-emirates-shutterstock-editorial-10241936ad.jpg (https://ibb.co/4R9rwVZ)

https://i.ibb.co/jDN1WPc/20180605-T200231-Z-1-LYNXNPEE541-ZM-RTROPTP-3-SOCCERWORLDCUPPOT3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[placebo]

irano med imo.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

In the first pic he looks quite a bit like me, then in the second pic he looks completely different.

[Arūnas]

he looks more European than.... :whistle:

[Ylla]

I thought iranids were more rugged, mountain adapted types. Or is that irano nordids/irano-afghan? Iranid-med, possibly.

[Hashoeva]

he can also pass in the Arab countries easily.

[Hashoeva]

he can also pass in the Arab countries easily.

[Hektor12]

And that's a meddish trait? Isn't the irano afghan race part of the greater eastern Mediterranean race anyways ? I've seen many iranids with those traits so I'm not too sure.

Do you see something in this man?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1624250206/b_400x400.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L6d7hDXJ1aM/XHT04LThSUI/AAAAAAAAHPY/Jwc-zfCvyzUb294ZcWvS1MAbAG50Q2ftgCLcBGAs/s1600/tamer_karadagli_dilini_ensenden_sokup_alirim_15130 64263_9419.jpg
https://d.pusulahaber.com.tr/news/63497.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IDOuSm68De4/hqdefault.jpg

[CommonSense]

Just because he appears cypriot to you, it doesn't negate the reality which is , he is an iranid . He is . Everyone else thinks so too , plus he doesn't look levantine to me . If he was east med , he would have gived off a levantine vibe.

Iranians


https://i.ibb.co/d41Ys50/al-ain-fc-vs-esteghlal-tehran-f-c-united-arab-emirates-shutterstock-editorial-10241936ad.jpg (https://ibb.co/4R9rwVZ)

https://i.ibb.co/jDN1WPc/20180605-T200231-Z-1-LYNXNPEE541-ZM-RTROPTP-3-SOCCERWORLDCUPPOT3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

He looks a lot different from the people in those group photos. Thanks for proving my point.

[Avicenna]

He looks a lot different from the people in those group photos. Thanks for proving my point.

That's subjective since to me he looks strikingly similar.

[Avicenna]

I thought iranids were more rugged, mountain adapted types. Or is that irano nordids/irano-afghan? Iranid-med, possibly.

Irano afghan is synonymous with iranid . What you are thinking about is either Proto iranid or Iranid with some CM or Irano- pamirid. The latter is quite commong among eastern iranics such as pashtuns and tajiks . The former is more common among mountain Kurds .

[newdbr]

yup he looks like me textbook iranid of course also looks iraqi

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/n171sp/cuban_american_beforeafter_update/