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MandM
09-25-2021, 10:45 AM
This is my wifes mothers brother from Montenegro , What du you guys and gals think of this, is it unusual results or do they look okej for Montenegro person

https://i.ibb.co/ByjQFnW/myheritage.png (https://ibb.co/ByjQFnW)
https://i.ibb.co/BsWnvyJ/k13.png (https://ibb.co/BsWnvyJ)
https://i.ibb.co/stcxjBh/K15.png (https://ibb.co/stcxjBh)

MandM
09-25-2021, 11:13 AM
No thoughts? For me it looks a bit East Balkan results, but I dont have the knowledge of montenegro people autosomal.
I know he is from the Rovca tribe but he also has from kuci and Bjelopavlici if that helps

MandM
09-25-2021, 02:37 PM
Come on people throw me a bone here hehe

vbnetkhio
09-25-2021, 05:51 PM
No thoughts? For me it looks a bit East Balkan results, but I dont have the knowledge of montenegro people autosomal.
I know he is from the Rovca tribe but he also has from kuci and Bjelopavlici if that helps

Montenegrins from Brda are similar to Southern Romanians, it's a normal result.

Could you post the components?(North Atlantic , Baltic, Etc.)

MandM
09-25-2021, 08:37 PM
Montenegrins from Brda are similar to Southern Romanians, it's a normal result.

Could you post the components?(North Atlantic , Baltic, Etc.)

Population
North_Atlantic 19.35 Pct
Baltic 27.4 Pct
West_Med 18.62 Pct
West_Asian 9.33 Pct
East_Med 16.28 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 2.72 Pct
East_Asian 1.38 Pct
Siberian 1.97 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.95

Jana
09-25-2021, 08:43 PM
Population
North_Atlantic 19.35 Pct
Baltic 27.4 Pct
West_Med 18.62 Pct
West_Asian 9.33 Pct
East_Med 16.28 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 2.72 Pct
East_Asian 1.38 Pct
Siberian 1.97 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.95

Elevated mongoloid and south Asian input. This is not common in Montenegro as far as I know. He could have some Turkic/steppe admixture.

He is closest to you out of all TA members however.

Distance to: Milenko_uncle_in_law(Montenegrin)

4.12036406 Milenko(Serb)
5.00553693 YupYup(Serb)
5.03090449 CătălinCristian(Romanian)
5.15312527 Gobius(Romanian)
5.24693244 Milenko_Sister(Serb)
5.38337255 Carpatz(Romanian)
5.53530487 Maestro(Hungarian-Albanian)
5.63765909 FellowGF(Romanian)
5.68629932 Seya(Romanian)
5.69857000 vlrs-2_cousin(Bulgarian)
5.83638587 Morlak(Serb)
5.97808498 Ogi(Montenegrin)
6.05349486 TheBalkanite(Bulgarian)
6.61207985 vlrs-2_friend(Bulgarian)
6.73559203 Fieraru(Romanian)
6.79837481 Terminator98(Serb)
6.83085646 Bosniensis(Bosniak)
6.98651558 Andre(Romanian)
7.03096011 TieRed_grandma(Serb)
7.22067864 Chrisbab_dad(Romanian)
7.23160425 Commonsense(Serb)
7.31119005 vbn(Serb)
7.35457681 wd1089(Romanian)
7.35800924 Milenko_wife(Croat-Montenegrin)
7.35882463 Impaler_cousin(Romanian)

MandM
09-25-2021, 08:56 PM
I know he showd me that on his mothers fathers side they "were" arbanasi, His grandfather is decendet from kastrioti skanderbeg, if that has somthing to do with the admixture i dont know

Voskos
09-25-2021, 09:37 PM
Do you have results of Turkic K11 and Ancient Eurasia K6 calculators?

walid
09-25-2021, 09:44 PM
Which haplogroup?

MandM
09-26-2021, 07:05 AM
Which haplogroup?

He hasent been tested for that, but when inlook at the Serbien site Poreklo it says hey are I2a, who have been tested i dont know or they just asume it is I2a

MandM
09-26-2021, 07:36 AM
Elevated mongoloid and south Asian input. This is not common in Montenegro as far as I know. He could have some Turkic/steppe admixture.

He is closest to you out of all TA members however.

Distance to: Milenko_uncle_in_law(Montenegrin)

4.12036406 Milenko(Serb)
5.00553693 YupYup(Serb)
5.03090449 CătălinCristian(Romanian)
5.15312527 Gobius(Romanian)
5.24693244 Milenko_Sister(Serb)
5.38337255 Carpatz(Romanian)
5.53530487 Maestro(Hungarian-Albanian)
5.63765909 FellowGF(Romanian)
5.68629932 Seya(Romanian)
5.69857000 vlrs-2_cousin(Bulgarian)
5.83638587 Morlak(Serb)
5.97808498 Ogi(Montenegrin)
6.05349486 TheBalkanite(Bulgarian)
6.61207985 vlrs-2_friend(Bulgarian)
6.73559203 Fieraru(Romanian)
6.79837481 Terminator98(Serb)
6.83085646 Bosniensis(Bosniak)
6.98651558 Andre(Romanian)
7.03096011 TieRed_grandma(Serb)
7.22067864 Chrisbab_dad(Romanian)
7.23160425 Commonsense(Serb)
7.31119005 vbn(Serb)
7.35457681 wd1089(Romanian)
7.35800924 Milenko_wife(Croat-Montenegrin)
7.35882463 Impaler_cousin(Romanian)

The thing is i took his myheritage, and took it and uploded it on dnagenics, and Extend his DNA from 700K SNPs to 30M, now that worket for me spot on, but maby it did not from him
this are his original.




Population
North_Atlantic 18.53 Pct
Baltic 28.09 Pct
West_Med 20.9 Pct
West_Asian 9.5 Pct
East_Med 16.75 Pct
Red_Sea 2.7 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_Asian 0.23 Pct
Siberian 1.11 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.09 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Distance to: Rade
5.27831412 Moldova_South
6.02914588 Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.18097080 Romania_Banat
6.44195622 Romania_Dobruja
6.62413768 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.64660063 Romania_average
6.67946106 Romania_Wallachia
6.71131135 Montenegrin
6.71858616 Romania_Muntenia
6.74634716 Serb_Serbia_South
6.89386684 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
6.94228349 Serb_Herzegovina
6.99471229 Romania_Oltenia
7.13453572 Bulgaria_average
7.13596525 Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.19704106 Romania_Moldavia_South
7.33365530 Romania_Maramures
7.33459610 Romania_Transylvania
7.38003388 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.38518788 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.40472822 Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.57435806 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.78048842 Serb
8.10547346 Serb_Serbia_Central
8.20205462 Pomak_Greece


Target: Rade
Distance: 2.9466% / 2.94660869 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.6 Pomak_Bulgaria
14.8 Latvian
14.4 Italian_Sardinia
2.8 Mari
2.4 North_Kannadi

Jana
09-26-2021, 01:12 PM
He hasent been tested for that, but when inlook at the Serbien site Poreklo it says hey are I2a, who have been tested i dont know or they just asume it is I2a

you can check his haplogroup here, just plug in his myheritage raw data file

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

or this

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

MandM
09-26-2021, 03:08 PM
you can check his haplogroup here, just plug in his myheritage raw data file

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

or this

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

This is what i got when uploded is raw dna

Most specific position on the YFull YTree is I-M423 Link to I-M423 on YFull View heatmap on Y Heatmap View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer

I-M423 CTS1293/Z2577/S2632+ CTS137/Z2574/S2620($) CTS176/Z2575/S2621/V1063+ CTS2365/S2646($) CTS3293/Z2590/S2659(?) CTS5985/Z2592/S2687(?) CTS7218/Z2596/S2702($) CTS8239/Z2598/S2715($) FGC20462(?) FGC7055(?) FGC7060(?) FGC7070(?) FGC7081(?) FGC8125(?) M423(?) S2654/FGC7071(?) S2657/FGC8110(?) S9008/FGC8108(?) V5116/S7711/FGC7068/SK1239(?) V6976/Z2599/FGC8124(?) V7450/Z2602/S22471/FGC7074(?) Y3114($) Y3117/FGC7078(?) Y3119/FGC8122(?) Y3999/FGC7079(?) YP201/FGC7073($) YP207/S2663/FGC8111(?) YP208/S2666/FGC7072(?) YP209/FGC8106($) YP211/FGC7085($) YP213/FGC7075(?) YP214/FGC7056(?) YP215/FGC8128(?) Z2580/FGC7065/V1939($) Z2581/FGC8118/V2043(?) Z2582/S11619/FGC7084/SK1238/V2221($) Z2583/S11650(?) Z2584/S11840/V2478(?) Z2593/S2688/FGC8109(?) Z2594(?) Z2595/S2691(?) Z2601($) Z2604/S2749/FGC8120($) Z2605/S2750($) Z2607/S2770(?) L178/S328/L178.1/L178.2(?) M10436/Z2579/S10435/V1297.1/V1297(?)
┣━I-FGC41353 +2 FGC41353(?) Y7286/FGC8126(?)
┗━I-V6473 FT366591(?) FT366592(?) FT366593(?) FT366594(?) V6473(?) V6750(?)

Available Panels
YSEQ recommends the I2a-M423 Panel Predicted I-M423 is the panel root. This panel is applicable and will definitely provide higher resolution.


Next best prediction (scored 313 compared to 315) I2

vbnetkhio
09-26-2021, 05:50 PM
The thing is i took his myheritage, and took it and uploded it on dnagenics, and Extend his DNA from 700K SNPs to 30M, now that worket for me spot on, but maby it did not from him
this are his original.




Population
North_Atlantic 18.53 Pct
Baltic 28.09 Pct
West_Med 20.9 Pct
West_Asian 9.5 Pct
East_Med 16.75 Pct
Red_Sea 2.7 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_Asian 0.23 Pct
Siberian 1.11 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.09 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Distance to: Rade
5.27831412 Moldova_South
6.02914588 Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.18097080 Romania_Banat
6.44195622 Romania_Dobruja
6.62413768 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.64660063 Romania_average
6.67946106 Romania_Wallachia
6.71131135 Montenegrin
6.71858616 Romania_Muntenia
6.74634716 Serb_Serbia_South
6.89386684 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
6.94228349 Serb_Herzegovina
6.99471229 Romania_Oltenia
7.13453572 Bulgaria_average
7.13596525 Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.19704106 Romania_Moldavia_South
7.33365530 Romania_Maramures
7.33459610 Romania_Transylvania
7.38003388 Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.38518788 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.40472822 Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.57435806 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.78048842 Serb
8.10547346 Serb_Serbia_Central
8.20205462 Pomak_Greece


Target: Rade
Distance: 2.9466% / 2.94660869 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.6 Pomak_Bulgaria
14.8 Latvian
14.4 Italian_Sardinia
2.8 Mari
2.4 North_Kannadi

This looks better. DnaGenics imputation doesn't look reliable.

MandM
09-26-2021, 06:18 PM
This looks better. DnaGenics imputation doesn't look reliable.

Dosent look like is far to diffrent when with the dnagenics, more that it got a bitt more stepp and southasian, but regions looks like befor, but exactly bit close to befor

vbnetkhio
09-26-2021, 06:42 PM
Dosent look like is far to diffrent when with the dnagenics, more that it got a bitt more stepp and southasian, but regions looks like befor, but exactly bit close to befor

Exactly, his results remain similar, but he gets more exotic stuff, which doesn't really exist in Montenegro, so i don't trust it.