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princeton90
09-26-2021, 11:32 PM
ANE + East Asian Farmer =?= Native American
Jased
09-27-2021, 12:03 AM
Great theory, I'm only 18% ANE myself which I think still low with someone with amerindian admixture.
Zanzibar
09-27-2021, 08:00 AM
ANE + East Asian Farmer =?= Native American

No the Mongoloid part is more like East Asian Hunter Gatherer such as Devil's Gate or something Ulchi-like or Boisman_MN-related rather than East Asian Farmer who contribute much more to Chinese or Southern East Asians.
princeton90
09-27-2021, 10:50 PM
No the Mongoloid part is more like East Asian Hunter Gatherer such as Devil's Gate or something Ulchi-like or Boisman_MN-related rather than East Asian Farmer who contribute much more to Chinese or Southern East Asians.

IMO Amerindians have something more southern than both ANE and Bosiman_MN. The more southern component is probably East Asian Farmer or no?
Zanzibar
09-28-2021, 02:12 AM
IMO Amerindians have something more southern than both ANE and Bosiman_MN. The more southern component is probably East Asian Farmer or no?

How do you know that Amerinds have something more southern than ANE and Boisman_MN?

I don't think its East Asian Farmer but something related to Coastal Southern East Asians: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19938-The-Genomic-Formation-of-Human-Populations-in-East-Asia-preprint&p=691106&viewfull=1#post691106
princeton90
09-28-2021, 10:00 AM
How do you know that Amerinds have something more southern than ANE and Boisman_MN?

I don't think its East Asian Farmer but something related to Coastal Southern East Asians: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19938-The-Genomic-Formation-of-Human-Populations-in-East-Asia-preprint&p=691106&viewfull=1#post691106

Aren’t coastal South East Asians mostly of East Asian Farmer descent?
Token
09-28-2021, 11:07 AM
LOL, there were no farmers in Paleolithic Siberia.

Amerindians = 2/3 Paleosiberian hunter-gatherer + 1/3 ANE.
Zanzibar
09-28-2021, 04:22 PM
Aren’t coastal South East Asians mostly of East Asian Farmer descent?

I'm not sure and they seem to have around 11% of that Coastal East Asian component.
Zanzibar
09-29-2021, 12:57 AM
LOL, there were no farmers in Paleolithic Siberia.

Amerindians = 2/3 Paleosiberian hunter-gatherer + 1/3 ANE.

The Paleosiberian Hunter Gatherers already have alot of ANEadmixture? Because I thought Natives would have more than 1/3 ANE.

Interesting. I read somewhere that their ENA is Devil's Gate or Ulchi-related, that is incorrect?
Roy
09-30-2021, 11:27 AM
The Paleosiberian Hunter Gatherers already have alot of ANEadmixture? Because I thought Natives would have more than 1/3 ANE.

Interesting. I read somewhere that their ENA is Devil's Gate or Ulchi-related, that is incorrect?

Who are Kets then? There is a lot of interesting similarities between Amerindians and Kets.
Sandis
10-03-2021, 07:28 PM
Who are Kets then? There is a lot of interesting similarities between Amerindians and Kets.

They are the people with one of the highest ANE ancestry (of course you can't find individuals who are like Malta, they have rich other admixtures like Amerindians).
They are more related genetically and through language with Na-Dene who crossed Bering with 3rd migration wave. Then turns out that their languages are at least 10000 years old, if Na-Dene really crossed Bering 8000 BC.
Study of Kets:

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20768