how would these 2 great boxers plot genetically?

[Jana]

What do you think?

Canelo is Mexican, Golovkin is half Russian half Korean.

https://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/images/2018/01/GGG-vs-Canelo.jpg
https://static.jutarnji.hr/images/live-multimedia/binary/2020/3/17/19/Canelo%20vs.%20Golovkin.jpg
https://wallpaperaccess.com/full/1813163.jpg
https://www.ringtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/file_182801_1_golovkin_vs_macklin_1_20130629_12243 93400.jpg

[ixulescu]

It depends on the populations you plot.

If you plot all the European, Asian and American populations together, these 2 boxers will be far apart.
But if you plot only the Eurasian mixes of all sorts the boxers will be closer after the dimensionality reduction.

[RyoHazuki]

He looks like a very European Mexican, so probably close to the east Balkans if he's mostly white + minor Amerindian. Other guy probably plots similar to Chuvash or Tatars.

[ixulescu]

He looks like a very European Mexican, so probably close to the east Balkans if he's mostly white + minor Amerindian. Other guy probably plots similar to Chuvash or Tatars.

Canelo does not look Balkan, he's like a manly Andrew Santino, Irish shows in both:

https://biographymask.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Andrew-Santino.jpg

https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/20200424173845/canelo-alvarez-740x628.jpg

[Ford]

Lol if you said Golovkin is pure Russian, I would never have questioned it.

[Jana]

He looks like a very European Mexican, so probably close to the east Balkans if he's mostly white + minor Amerindian. Other guy probably plots similar to Chuvash or Tatars.

Thing is, Canelo is most fair complexioned/northern looking in his family.

brothers
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7e509975246492f188fdadb766ff59e0-c
https://img.gruporeforma.com/imagenes/960x640/5/254/4253439.jpg

parents
https://i.imgur.com/rt2o9B4.jpeg

https://celebs.infoseemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Canelo-Alvarez-with-father-Santos-Alvarez.jpg

[Luke35]

Great thread idea, and I know a real boxing fan when I see one (Feiichy).

My guess is that Canelo is not as European admixed as his red-headed look might suggest. I've seen his siblings and I think for the most part they look Amerindian influenced, more than he does anyway.

As for Golovkin, I guess we'd have to figure out where his Russian side hales from, regionally, and go halfway between that and the Korean average, I suppose.

Another interesting plot might be the Klitschko brother's. As far as I know they are 3/4 Ukrainian and 1/4 Ashkenazi.

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

forget the ginger hair and v pale skin that's associated with the ginger gene...canelo has obvious native american admixture...look at his facial features and skull structure

he is in the castizo range probably

[Leto]

Golovkin looks a lot less Mongoloid than he is supposed to be autosomally. You have Tatars with 20% EE who look like hapas.

[Jana]

Golovkin looks a lot less Mongoloid than he is supposed to be autosomally. You have Tatars with 20% EE who look like hapas.

He competes under Kazakhstan flag, where he was born. Could he actually come close to Kazakhs autosomally? I'm not sure.

[Leto]

He competes under Kazakhstan flag, where he was born. Could he actually come close to Kazakhs autosomally? I'm not sure.
Well, the East Eurasian components of Koreans and Kazakhs are different, so I'm not sure there's an ethnic group that would be close to him. But yeah, he should be 50+% East Eurasian (51-55%).

[Gaditanian]

Lmao I thought that Golovkin was the Mexican

[Cristiano viejo]

Lmao I thought that Golovkin was the Mexican

He could be perfectly one. Mongols and Amerindians are brothers.

[hmaohma78]

Canelo is most likely castizo genetically. He would most likely plot somewhere in Southeast Europe. His Sephardic Jewish and amerindian ancestry would push him east.

[Cristiano viejo]

Canelo is most likely castizo genetically. He would most likely plot somewhere in Southeast Europe. His Sephardic Jewish and amerindian ancestry would push him east.

His Sephardic Jewish, trolololol.

[hmaohma78]

His Sephardic Jewish, trolololol.

He does have some. The town where his parents are from is known to have that ancestry. If you look at Where Caucasian Ancestry Of Mexicans plot; it is eastern shifted due to the Sephardic Jewish admixture.

[Cristiano viejo]

He does have some. The town where his parents are form is known to have that ancestry. If you look at Where Caucasian Ancestry Of Mexicans plot; it is eastern shifted due to the Sephardic Jewish admixture.

:picard1:

by the way one of his brothers is called el Español :laugh:

[Jased]

His Sephardic Jewish, trolololol.

Why don't you want accept that? All Mexicans will score some Jewish/levantine/Middle eastern admixture regardless the commercial test.

Many Jews founded many Mexican cities such as Monterrey.

[Jased]

He looks like a very European Mexican, so probably close to the east Balkans if he's mostly white + minor Amerindian. Other guy probably plots similar to Chuvash or Tatars.

He doesn't look very European he looks like a despigmented between harnizo/castizo, If you want to see REAL European looking Mexicans I can PM some relatives of mine.

[Cristiano viejo]

Why don't you want accept that? All Mexicans will score some Jewish/levantine/Middle eastern admixture regardless the commercial test.

Many Jews founded many Mexican cities such as Monterrey.

Monterrey was founded by Diego de Montemayor. STOP WITH THE JEWISH LIES. You are so pathetic that hurts.

[Jased]

It depends on the populations you plot.

If you plot all the European, Asian and American populations together, these 2 boxers will be far apart.
But if you plot only the Eurasian mixes of all sorts the boxers will be closer after the dimensionality reduction.



WRONG, Canelo Is most likely more west euroasian the other guy looks half Asian from miles away.


Native Americans are 20-35% West euroasian, Koreans 0%

[Jased]

Canelo does not look Balkan, he's like a manly Andrew Santino, Irish shows in both:

https://biographymask.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Andrew-Santino.jpg

https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/20200424173845/canelo-alvarez-740x628.jpg

Not every white pinkish /ginger means looking Irish:picard2:

[Jased]

Canelo is most likely castizo genetically. He would most likely plot somewhere in Southeast Europe. His Sephardic Jewish and amerindian ancestry would push him east.

Neh he's fairness helps him look that way , 70-85% Euro mexicans most of the time look like Europeans to the untrained eyed.


If Canelo was brown skinned/dark haired he will look like your typical Mexican In California..

[hmaohma78]

Neh he's fairness helps him look that way , 70-85% Euro mexicans most of the time look like Europeans to the untrained eyed.


If Canelo was brown skinned/dark haired he will look like your typical Mexican In California..

I judging by his parents His dad looks to be in the criollo range or at least close to it. While his mom looks Harnizo. Also his brothers mostly looks like Castizos. Castizos range in looks.

[Jased]

I judging by his parents His dad looks to be in the criollo range or at least close to it. While his mom looks Harnizo. Also his brothers mostly looks like Castizos. Castizos range in looks.

Your right, dad looks Criollo I just saw his parents so maybe he's In the range. he's head structure looks very mestizo or maybe that's Alpine contribution?

[Jased]

Monterrey was founded by Diego de Montemayor. STOP WITH THE JEWISH LIES. You are so pathetic that hurts.

[Jased]

Monterrey was founded by Diego de Montemayor. STOP WITH THE JEWISH LIES. You are so pathetic that hurts.

ALL Mexicans HAVE JEWISH/LEVANTINE/MIDDLE EASTERN ADMIXTURE FOR GOD SAKE & we are PROUD of that

https://i.imgur.com/55nLA7a.png

A quote from @Argentano.

"I think a significant part of mexican mestizos scoring "italian" must mean something. I guess its jewish blood like someone once said. Because its pretty constant."

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263486-4-500-NEW-WORLD-Kits-from-Gedmatch-euro-ranges&p=5518795&viewfull=1#post5518795

[Cristiano viejo]

ALL Mexicans HAVE JEWISH

You as inferior being wish.

[Jased]

You as inferior being wish.

:picard2::picard2:

[RMuller]

Canelo is most likely castizo genetically.

After looking at Canelo's parent's i think Canelo scores around 65-70% Euro-caucasian Jewish the rest Amerindian 28-33% and 1-2% ssa

[RMuller]

He does have some. The town where his parents are from is known to have that ancestry. If you look at Where Caucasian Ancestry Of Mexicans plot; it is eastern shifted due to the Sephardic Jewish admixture.

Is his parents from Cotija,Michoacan?

[hmaohma78]

Is his parents from Cotija,Michoacan?

Los Reyes Michoacan.