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Celestia
09-30-2021, 04:26 AM
I’m still waiting on my dad to spit in his tube. He’s a bit of a stubborn one but my mothers 23andme came in today.

Nothing too surprising. I was hoping I’d get some answers for a possible Sorbian surname (Kubitz/Kubitza) I found in her family tree but I’m assuming there was a mistake between relatives since she didn’t score any Eastern European. Her Haplogroup is H1.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=110214&d=1632975963

My guess is my dad will score around 85-95% B&I and a little of French and German.

Jana
09-30-2021, 09:48 AM
Congrats on mother's results! What is her paper trail ancestry? German, French Cajun (with Louisiana Creole admixture?), British and Norwegian perhaps? Just guessing.
Do you mind sharing her gedmatch results, like Eurogenes K13 run for example?

Very interesting results.

Luke35
09-30-2021, 10:40 AM
Awesome!

Make sure you connect your 23andMe accounts. After you do that you will get a refined ancestry prediction and also a parental inheritance chart.

Benyzero
09-30-2021, 11:22 AM
Whole fam is Disney but she's country

Andullero
09-30-2021, 11:36 AM
Cool results. Your mom is almost half Frenchie, interesting.

El_Jibaro
09-30-2021, 11:40 AM
Nice results ;).

Wow, 6% SSA? Do you have any known black ancestor?

Andullero
09-30-2021, 12:00 PM
Nice results ;).

Wow, 6% SSA? Do you have any known black ancestor?

I think she mentioned somewhere that she has Cajun ancestry from Louisiana, so it's very likely.

Daven
09-30-2021, 12:08 PM
Great results amiga!

Dunai
09-30-2021, 01:27 PM
What are your new refined ancestry estimates, do you find them better than your last updated results? I'm also thinking to test my mom in the near future and curious how much 23andMe refines your personal estimates based on your parent.

Andullero
09-30-2021, 01:30 PM
Nice results ;).

Wow, 6% SSA? Do you have any known black ancestor?

Also, I must say, given that the French/German category doesnt list regions, then it must be from colonial times.

Annie999
09-30-2021, 01:33 PM
Congrats on her results , very interesting

Figaro
09-30-2021, 01:38 PM
That’s a lot of Scandinavian- were you expecting that? Maybe I’ve missed your mention of Scandinavian ancestry in the past.

Jana
09-30-2021, 02:01 PM
That’s a lot of Scandinavian- were you expecting that? Maybe I’ve missed your mention of Scandinavian ancestry in the past.

Celestia is part Norwegian iirc (1/8 based on this?)

Rostos vilmoskörte
09-30-2021, 02:17 PM
Does your mother look 6% SSA?

Celestia
09-30-2021, 02:59 PM
Congrats on mother's results! What is her paper trail ancestry? German, French Cajun (with Louisiana Creole admixture?), British and Norwegian perhaps? Just guessing.
Do you mind sharing her gedmatch results, like Eurogenes K13 run for example?

Very interesting results.

Yup, you nailed it!

Her K13


North_Atlantic 46.95 Pct
Baltic 19.09 Pct
West_Med 15.42 Pct
West_Asian 4.08 Pct
East_Med 4.69 Pct
Red_Sea 0.37 Pct
South_Asian 2.02 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.73 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.78 Pct
Northeast_African 0.46 Pct
Sub-Saharan 5.41 Pct

Celestia
09-30-2021, 03:01 PM
Nice results ;).

Wow, 6% SSA? Do you have any known black ancestor?

Yes, I was able to trace it back to a slave mistress in the late 1700's. She was from the Senegambia and Atlantic slave trade. I'm starting to think maybe there is another more recent ancestor I haven't found yet being that my mother is 6%.

Celestia
09-30-2021, 03:07 PM
Awesome!

Make sure you connect your 23andMe accounts. After you do that you will get a refined ancestry prediction and also a parental inheritance chart.

I connected with her but nothing changed? Does it do it automatically?

Celestia
09-30-2021, 03:08 PM
Does your mother look 6% SSA?

She doesn't have any SSA traits but she has been mistaken for hispanic

Celestia
09-30-2021, 03:12 PM
Also, I must say, given that the French/German category doesnt list regions, then it must be from colonial times.

French is colonial. Her Norwegian and German ancestors immigrated in the late 1800's

butterburger
09-30-2021, 03:23 PM
Awesome results... also interesting the SSA part, 6%+ is quite significant

What do you usually get mistaken as IRL based on appearance

Celestia
09-30-2021, 03:31 PM
Awesome results... also interesting the SSA part, 6%+ is quite significant

What do you usually get mistaken as IRL based on appearance

Italian mostly but in Houston I'd get mistaken for Mexican/Colombian/Cuban a lot.

Jana
09-30-2021, 03:38 PM
:)

Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 1.8767% / 1.87671981 | ADC: 0.5x RC

47.1 Celestia(American)
22.0 Centurion(French)
20.9 dududud_father(French)
4.9 Heathers(Afro-Brazilian)
4.8 Black_Panther(Brazilian-Swede)
0.3 Nyx(French_Canadian)


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 0.8799% / 0.87985069 | ADC: 0.25x RC

41.2 TheOldNorth'smom(English-Scot-Irish_American)
26.4 acbrasil(Brazilian)
14.0 dududud_father(French)
7.9 Heathers(Afro-Brazilian)
6.9 barbatus(Afrikaner)
2.2 RyoHazuki(English-French_American)
1.3 Nyx(French_Canadian)
0.1 Black_Panther(Brazilian-Swede)


Distance to: Celestia_mother(American)

5.67373775 Celestia(American)
6.24084930 acbrasil(Brazilian)
6.61907849 Inf99Dad(American)
6.64197260 SouthDutch7991(American)
6.98507695 Nyx(French_Canadian)
6.99041487 Centurion(French)
7.07176074 Skeleton_father(American)
7.13590919 barbatus(Afrikaner)
7.14967831 wisteria(American)
7.16886323 de_Burgh_II(American)
7.40237124 Allenson(New_Englander)
7.54310944 Norb(English)
7.57296507 Davystayn(British)
7.63165775 Gooding(American)
7.75208359 Senpai(American)
7.80568383 Jingorex(American)
7.81607958 TribalSky(English)
7.83262408 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
7.83444318 Dedalus7(Irish)
7.87153098 Jackson_aunt(English)
7.94339348 Rædwald(English-French_Canadian)
7.99799975 nittionia(American)
8.07906554 Morticia(American)
8.08028465 Prettydambrittish(Anglo-American)
8.15330608 RyoHazuki(English-French_American)


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 2.6941% / 2.69410714 | R2P

83.1 TheOldNorth'smom(English-Scot-Irish_American)
16.9 Andullero(Dominican)


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 2.1254% / 2.12542724 | ADC: 0.25x RC

84.1 French_Northwest
7.8 French_Basque
5.3 Yoruban
2.8 Afrikaner


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 0.9938% / 0.99378941

36.9 West_Scottish
33.7 Orcadian
18.5 Spanish_Valencia
4.8 Yoruban
4.2 French_Basque
1.1 Chamar
0.5 Bantu_S.W.
0.3 Papuan


Distance to: Celestia_mother(American)

6.49138660 Afrikaner
6.57384971 French_Northwest
7.09230569 Dutch_South
7.30354708 Flemish
7.33899176 Belgian
7.58395675 English_Southeast
7.75128376 English_Southwest
7.75644893 English_Midlands
7.86579303 English
7.97665343 Cornish
8.04714235 French_Northeast
8.44772159 Welsh
8.55927567 English_North
8.72353140 German_West
8.94554079 Scottish_North_Highlands
9.04155407 Dutch
9.05698625 Scottish_East
9.30628820 Irish_Leinster
9.31157344 Scottish_Northeast
9.46638262 Scottish
9.49332924 Scottish_Southwest
9.49729962 Orcadian
9.55473181 Pennsylvania_Dutch
9.55643762 Dutch_Central
10.02539775 German_South

Celestia
09-30-2021, 03:49 PM
:)

Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 1.8767% / 1.87671981 | ADC: 0.5x RC

47.1 Celestia(American)
22.0 Centurion(French)
20.9 dududud_father(French)
4.9 Heathers(Afro-Brazilian)
4.8 Black_Panther(Brazilian-Swede)
0.3 Nyx(French_Canadian)


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 0.8799% / 0.87985069 | ADC: 0.25x RC

41.2 TheOldNorth'smom(English-Scot-Irish_American)
26.4 acbrasil(Brazilian)
14.0 dududud_father(French)
7.9 Heathers(Afro-Brazilian)
6.9 barbatus(Afrikaner)
2.2 RyoHazuki(English-French_American)
1.3 Nyx(French_Canadian)
0.1 Black_Panther(Brazilian-Swede)


Distance to: Celestia_mother(American)

5.67373775 Celestia(American)
6.24084930 acbrasil(Brazilian)
6.61907849 Inf99Dad(American)
6.64197260 SouthDutch7991(American)
6.98507695 Nyx(French_Canadian)
6.99041487 Centurion(French)
7.07176074 Skeleton_father(American)
7.13590919 barbatus(Afrikaner)
7.14967831 wisteria(American)
7.16886323 de_Burgh_II(American)
7.40237124 Allenson(New_Englander)
7.54310944 Norb(English)
7.57296507 Davystayn(British)
7.63165775 Gooding(American)
7.75208359 Senpai(American)
7.80568383 Jingorex(American)
7.81607958 TribalSky(English)
7.83262408 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
7.83444318 Dedalus7(Irish)
7.87153098 Jackson_aunt(English)
7.94339348 Rædwald(English-French_Canadian)
7.99799975 nittionia(American)
8.07906554 Morticia(American)
8.08028465 Prettydambrittish(Anglo-American)
8.15330608 RyoHazuki(English-French_American)


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 2.6941% / 2.69410714 | R2P

83.1 TheOldNorth'smom(English-Scot-Irish_American)
16.9 Andullero(Dominican)


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 2.1254% / 2.12542724 | ADC: 0.25x RC

84.1 French_Northwest
7.8 French_Basque
5.3 Yoruban
2.8 Afrikaner


Target: Celestia_mother(American)
Distance: 0.9938% / 0.99378941

36.9 West_Scottish
33.7 Orcadian
18.5 Spanish_Valencia
4.8 Yoruban
4.2 French_Basque
1.1 Chamar
0.5 Bantu_S.W.
0.3 Papuan


Distance to: Celestia_mother(American)

6.49138660 Afrikaner
6.57384971 French_Northwest
7.09230569 Dutch_South
7.30354708 Flemish
7.33899176 Belgian
7.58395675 English_Southeast
7.75128376 English_Southwest
7.75644893 English_Midlands
7.86579303 English
7.97665343 Cornish
8.04714235 French_Northeast
8.44772159 Welsh
8.55927567 English_North
8.72353140 German_West
8.94554079 Scottish_North_Highlands
9.04155407 Dutch
9.05698625 Scottish_East
9.30628820 Irish_Leinster
9.31157344 Scottish_Northeast
9.46638262 Scottish
9.49332924 Scottish_Southwest
9.49729962 Orcadian
9.55473181 Pennsylvania_Dutch
9.55643762 Dutch_Central
10.02539775 German_South

Very interesting, thank you!
I’m fascinated that she’s genetically close to a Brazilian!

Jana
09-30-2021, 03:59 PM
Very interesting, thank you!
I’m fascinated that she’s genetically close to a Brazilian!

Yes, but keep in mind this guy your mom is close to has somewhat rare ancestry for a Brazilian.

Ancestry
German/English, French, Slovak, Dutch

He plots closest to Flemish :) And seems to have minor (1-2%) SSA too!

Distance to: acbrasil(Brazilian)

3.00901977 Flemish
3.08454211 Dutch_South
3.46597750 Belgian
3.70245864 German_West
3.87635138 French_Northwest
4.22983451 Afrikaner
4.25699424 English_Southeast
4.80561130 English_Midlands
4.94983838 English
5.09945095 English_Southwest
5.31232529 Cornish
5.48059303 French_Northeast
5.93690997 Dutch
5.94058920 English_North
6.02084712 Welsh
6.39149435 German_South
6.56511234 German
6.70949327 Dutch_Central
6.74142418 Scottish_East
6.80319778 Scottish_North_Highlands
6.93326042 German_Northwest
6.95074816 Pennsylvania_Dutch
7.03208362 Scottish_Northeast
7.17880213 Scottish
7.30582644 Orcadian

Andullero
09-30-2021, 04:03 PM
Italian mostly but in Houston I'd get mistaken for Mexican/Colombian/Cuban a lot.

Yeah, you look very Med shifted. If you dont mention your Anglo ancestry I'd never guess at all.

Figaro
09-30-2021, 04:08 PM
It will be interesting to see your father's result, and what yDNA haplogroup represents your deep paternal line (also his mtdna and all that good stuff)..

Hektor12
09-30-2021, 04:11 PM
Celestia is part Norwegian iirc (1/8 based on this?)

And why im learning this just now?

Nice results, Cel. Congz. (:

Celestia
09-30-2021, 04:12 PM
It will be interesting to see your father's result, and what yDNA haplogroup represents your deep paternal line (also his mtdna and all that good stuff)..

I know, I'm very excited for that so I'm getting impatient with him haha! My guess is that he is R1a

Luke35
09-30-2021, 04:12 PM
I connected with her but nothing changed? Does it do it automatically?

Mine took about 3 days, but keeping checking it, Markos told me his was very fast.

Celestia
09-30-2021, 04:26 PM
Yeah, you look very Med shifted. If you dont mention your Anglo ancestry I'd never guess at all.

Yeah I stuck out like a sore thumb in the Anglo dominated community I grew up in. I look typical in French Louisiana though.

Andullero
09-30-2021, 04:29 PM
Yeah I stuck out like a sore thumb in the Anglo dominated community I grew up in. I look typical in French Louisiana though.

Yep. The classification term for our purposes is "criolla".

Rædwald
09-30-2021, 05:28 PM
Nice results, Cajun for certain. Maybe you're related to Beyonce too.

Celestia
09-30-2021, 08:14 PM
Nice results, Cajun for certain. Maybe you're related to Beyonce too.

That would be something. Her family is from Houston and Louisiana also

Rædwald
09-30-2021, 08:47 PM
That would be something. Her family is from Houston and Louisiana also

I have an ancestor in common with her. So you never know. :) Joseph Broussard Beausoleil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Broussard)

Celestia
09-30-2021, 08:55 PM
I have an ancestor in common with her. So you never know. :) Joseph Broussard Beausoleil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Broussard)

He’s not in my tree however I am related to a former Canadian hockey player. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Vézina

J.S.
09-30-2021, 09:32 PM
Also, I must say, given that the French/German category doesnt list regions, then it must be from colonial times.

What do you mean? 23andMe does list the (French) putative regions of origin.

Andullero
09-30-2021, 09:35 PM
What do you mean? 23andMe does list the (French) putative regions of origin.

I'm talking about them on the results of Celestia's mother, they dont show the breakdown that the UK ones on her case show, so that means her French ancestry is far removed enough for the company not to find a match on their sample base.

Luke35
10-02-2021, 04:57 PM
Hey Celestia, have they phased you with your mother yet?

The other cool feature I forgot to mention is that after phasing is complete, your relative matches will be split up - father's side, mother's side.

Erronkari
10-02-2021, 05:10 PM
Congrats!! Super cool results!! :thumb001:

Celestia
10-02-2021, 05:18 PM
Hey Celestia, have they phased you with your mother yet?

The other cool feature I forgot to mention is that after phasing is complete, your relative matches will be split up - father's side, mother's side.

Thanks for the reminder!!

So my results barely changed, I almost didn’t even notice. Which is a bit of a bummer lol.

110230

B&I percentage went up by 2 and SSA went up by .5 LOL

I’m guessing when my dad tests my B&I will skyrocket and the broadly will decrease.

Luke35
10-02-2021, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the reminder!!

So my results barely changed, I almost didn’t even notice. Which is a bit of a bummer lol.

I bet the parental inheritance chart shows the majority of your B & I comes from your paternal side?

That will be interesting to have your father phased in too, to see how that further refines things.

Celestia
10-02-2021, 05:31 PM
I bet the parental inheritance chart shows the majority of your B & I comes from your paternal side?

That will be interesting to have your father phased in too, to see how that further refines things.

Right now it's predicting that I inherited 27% B&I from my dad.
It's predicting that I inherited more French and German from him as well, which I'm 95% sure isn't accurate so once his results come in I'm sure there will be a much bigger change.

Luke35
10-02-2021, 05:34 PM
Right now it's predicting that I inherited 27% B&I from my dad.
It's predicting that I inherited more French and German from him as well, which I'm 95% sure isn't accurate so once his results come in I'm sure there will be a much bigger change.

Hmmmm, your dad remains a mystery. Please tell him Mr.G is curious and to get that saliva flowing, today!!

Celestia
10-02-2021, 05:41 PM
Hmmmm, your dad remains a mystery. Please tell him Mr.G is curious and to get that saliva flowing, today!!

Will do!
I still have to convince him the government isn’t going to store his dna :rolleyes: lol

Luke35
10-02-2021, 06:20 PM
Will do!
I still have to convince him the government isn’t going to store his dna :rolleyes: lol

Tell him it's already too late for that haha