Classify Kevin Kyle

[Creoda]

Bronze Age British throwback?

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[Immanenz]

Surely he is, although when you brake down the famous three components of the Bell Beakers he would be on the Corded and Cm side of things, so he ends up being a Brunn leaning Troender, and of course a British looking one. Samuel Beckett would also belong to this group, much different looking though. I guess Steve Rackman would be the most stereotypical one, having all components.

[Hektor12]

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Tajikistan

[Creoda]

Surely he is, although when you brake down the famous three components of the Bell Beakers he would be on the Corded and Cm side of things, so he ends up being a Brunn leaning Troender, and of course a British looking one. Samuel Beckett would also belong to this group, much different looking though. I guess Steve Rackman would be the most stereotypical one, having all components.
Yeah, I saw this guy a long time ago and thought he looked just like how I imagined a Beaker brute, skull-smasher 4000 years ago. Agree on the Brunn-Tronder spectrum for him. Great find with Rackman, certainly a heavy British BA influence there.

[Creoda]

Another Briton who is not similar looking, but whose phenotype I can't really place other than some freakish Bronze Age/Beaker throwback is the Rugby League player Eorl Crabtree.

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[Hektor12]

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Pre-Aryan cromagnon. James Milner's blond brother.

[Immanenz]

Another Briton who is not similar looking, but whose phenotype I can't really place other than some freakish Bronze Age/Beaker throwback is the Rugby League player Eorl Crabtree.


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similar to the Rethlin reconstruction

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-xnCu8WUAYmoHI.jpg

[Immanenz]

Pre-Aryan cromagnon. James Milner's blond brother.

Thats not true- read the basic describtion of the people in the Dniepr Donetsk culture (for starters) and come again and we can talk about it.

[Hektor12]

Thats not true- read the basic describtion of the people in the Dniepr Donetsk culture (for starters) and come again and we can talk about it.

All i can do is calling him a pure WHG, my knowledge ends here unfortunately.

[Davystayn]

Pre-Aryan cromagnon. James Milner's blond brother.

Yes was about to say OP reminded me of James Milner

[Norb]

I'm so glad and thankful that I'm Nordid/MED

[Immanenz]

All i can do is calling him a pure WHG, my knowledge ends here unfortunately.

What you call "Aryan" was half EHG (= ANE + WHG) and half CHG- half Karelian/half Caucasus basically. As you did not read i suppose Dniepr Donetsk people were described as "Proto Europid" and were similar to North Europeans which also corresponds to the genetic facts, since EHG is northern anyway. But it does not necessary mean any EHG or CHG indivdual was actually "Aryan".

here Mesolitihc Crimea skulls- they were very much close to pure EHG:
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/MESOLITHIC-PEOPLE-FROM-CRIMEA-VasilyevBorutskaya/981aed3a2841bb8026f69d5b17de805e401e80d1

here some reconstructions which are pretty solid so you get a feeling for that. Is Steppe Maykop Kurgan a brother from WHG? Dont think so- most likely would not treat him as such. And the Yamnaya man passes only as a immigrant in modern day Germany, Norway etc. in terms of pigmentation at least.
https://ancestralwhispers.org/reconstructions

You could obv. argue that this certain phenotype derives from something but sometimes it sounds to me like any squarre jaw, large head makes someone pure WHG as a narrow head makes someone pure Arab, or any wavy nose Armenian etc. You see, WHG sounds maybe neutral to you but this logic has its errors.

[Immanenz]

another extreme BA British type, infamous Raoul Moat


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https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/images/1370725.jpg?display=1&htype=100000&type=responsive-gallery

[Creoda]

another extreme BA British type, infamous Raoul Moat


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/NINTCHDBPICT000004928200.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22220817.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/1_Raoul-Moat.jpg
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/images/1370725.jpg?display=1&htype=100000&type=responsive-gallery


Yep, could only really be a Northerner, coinciding with the fact that the South is less than 30% British BA.

More of Kyle

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/12/NINTCHDBPICT000019009493.jpg
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https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/scotlands-kevin-kyle-in-action-during-his-teams-10-defeat-against-picture-id651927926
https://e0.365dm.com/09/10/768x432/kyle_2373225.jpg?20091016113526

[Hektor12]

BA British typeSo whats the short term to call them, if its not correct to call them WHG or Cromagnon? Whats their known name? (Pardon my illiteracy please.)

[Norb]

Yep, could only really be a Northerner, coinciding with the fact that the South is less than 30% British BA.

More of Kyle

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/12/NINTCHDBPICT000019009493.jpg
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https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/scotlands-kevin-kyle-in-action-during-his-teams-10-defeat-against-picture-id651927926
https://e0.365dm.com/09/10/768x432/kyle_2373225.jpg?20091016113526

Moat is very 'North-East looking' a face that is rare here..