Classify my Mexican Friend (girl)

[NorseWarrior]

She is from Chihuahua
Name: Sofía Alexandra Barkmann Castillo
Height: 1,69 cm
Weight: 59 kg
https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-images-cbir/767753/GXlkpfepCIQfMxt09o3LCw8486/ocr
https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-images-cbir/515835/jiYq2Jonk6YTAcYwu5II2w0193/ocr

[Tsuin]

Savolaxid, is she of Swedish descent? Cause the first part of her last name 'Barkmann' is Swedish origin

[NorseWarrior]

Savolaxid, is she of Swedish descent? Cause the first part of her last name 'Barkmann' is Swedish origin

Barkmann: German
Barkman: Swedish

[GDDR6]

Nordid+ NEUP&CM

[zebruh]

The two photos is not even the same person

[NorseWarrior]

The two photos is not even the same person

Is the same!

[sioned]

I firmly believe whites should not live in Mestizo wastelands such as Mexico...The danger of going brown is a serious risk.

[NorseWarrior]

I firmly believe whites should not live in Mestizo wastelands such as Mexico...The danger of going brown is a serious risk.

Well, I'm afraid to disappoint you, since according to the Institute of Statistics in Mexico, it reported that there are between 56-59 million Whites, which makes it the second most white Ibero-American country after Brazil, the first in Hispanic-America. If my friend is White, it's not your problem. It is one thing to be in Europe, and another thing to be in a global world like America. I asked for a rating, not an opinion. Worry more about Europe (white world) than America (multinational world).

[Mortimer]

Nordid

[Arūnas]

which part of Russia is called Mexico?
or is she living in Finland currently?
note second pic and read this thread:

continues:
I don't care if Russians took Finnish style or the other way, but - wide streets, single (even if beautiful) buildings, in the "west" - rows of tenement houses and narrow streets
rainwater drainage system in Finland quite like in Russia (on the streets / walkingside), in the "west" underground etc.

Soderkulla
https://i.postimg.cc/KzgKFGbg/DSC00239-kopia.jpg

[Erronkari]

Nordid.

[NorseWarrior]

which part of Russia is called Mexico?
or is she living in Finland currently?
note second pic and read this thread:

I don't know...I think that in Japan there could also be water taps, or maybe sheets of paper and books.

[NorseWarrior]

Nordid.

I think Alpinid +Nordid + Tavastid

[Erronkari]

I think Alpinid +Nordid + Tavastid

Agree…

I also thought Subnordid+Tavastid
But I am not sure if the Nordid and the Alpinid are balanced in her.

[Hungarian_master]

Nordid+Baltid.

[El_Jibaro]

Well, I'm afraid to disappoint you, since according to the Institute of Statistics in Mexico, it reported that there are between 56-59 million Whites, which makes it the second most white Ibero-American country after Brazil, the first in Hispanic-America. If my friend is White, it's not your problem. It is one thing to be in Europe, and another thing to be in a global world like America. I asked for a rating, not an opinion. Worry more about Europe (white world) than America (multinational world).

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/48754703.jpg

[Hasien]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/48754703.jpg

Actually is the third one after Brazil and Argentina numerically speaking.




Percentage? Nobody knows exactly not even us, I've seen Mexicans being 70% euro and looking white Soo.

[Hasien]

Nordid.

Ve Mr Wog asi lucen los Gueros (mexicanos blancos)

[Vanu]

Sub Nordid, she is gorgeous:pinklove:

[El_Jibaro]

Actually is the third one after Brazil and Argentina numerically speaking.

When you don't adjust the white population to the size of the Mexican population, maybe. Argentina and Brazil are still whiter by a lot as a whole.

[Hasien]

When you don't adjust the white population to the size of the Mexican population, maybe. Argentina and Brazil are still whiter by a lot as a whole.

No one denies that, but numerically speaking Mexico does have a good chunk of almost predominantly euro decends I don't know why people are bother by accepting the facts.


Also It could be random I've seen blond blue eyed mexicans being 70% euro or sometimes even less.

[El_Jibaro]

No one denies that, but numerically speaking Mexico does have a good chunk of almost predominantly euro decends I don't know why people are bother by accepting the facts.


Also It could be random I've seen blond blue eyed mexicans being 70% euro or sometimes even less.

Sure, but this guy claimed Mexico is the whitest country in Hispanic-America which is complete bullshit.

[Hasien]

Sure, but this guy claimed Mexico is the whitest country is Hispanic-America which is complete bullshit.

Oh yeah, agree with you on that..

[NorseWarrior]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/48754703.jpg

Another Immortal user commenting without thinking.

The term "Mestizo" is not equated to a balanced form of a hybridization between 2 or more races. If you are 87.5% Danish, 6.25% American Indian and 6.25% Japanese (case of a friend from CDMX), you are clearly Mestizo, but you are also White, as Caucasian-European (Germanic) ancestry symbolizes most of your genetic anthropology and taxonomy, or vice versa.

Europeans, or Whites, are also in the category of Mestizos in the Mexican population census (because they are not pure despite their majority of European descent), while pure Europeans (totally pure) symbolize 15% of the population. 4 years ago I had the opportunity to know Mexico (where I met my friend) and the country is usually very varied, since Mexico is a Multicultural and Multiracial State, due to historical globalization.

Therefore, it is not surprising that the most populous Hispanic-American country in the world, the second most populous in Latin America and the second most populous in Ibero-America, has more whites than the rest. Still, non-whites end up being the largest group with 71,207,371/74,207,371 people.

Sources: 21 de Marzo: Día Internacional de la Eliminación de la Discriminación Racial" [March 21: International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination]. Mexico: CONAPRED. 2017. p. 7. Retrieved August 23, 2017.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mexicans

[National Survey on Discrimination in Mexico] (PDF) (in Spanish). Mexico: CONAPRED. June 2011. Retrieved August 24, 2017.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You should delete her name from the OP.

[Radimir]

The two photos is not even the same person

It is the same person, you'd be surprised how drastically different someone can look with different hair and eyebrow colour.

[El_Jibaro]

Another Immortal user commenting without thinking.

The term "Mestizo" is not equated to a balanced form of a hybridization between 2 or more races. If you are 87.5% Danish, 6.25% American Indian and 6.25% Japanese (case of a friend from CDMX), you are clearly Mestizo, but you are also White, as Caucasian-European (Germanic) ancestry symbolizes most of your genetic anthropology and taxonomy, or vice versa.

Europeans, or Whites, are also in the category of Mestizos in the Mexican population census (because they are not pure despite their majority of European descent), while pure Europeans (totally pure) symbolize 15% of the population. 4 years ago I had the opportunity to know Mexico (where I met my friend) and the country is usually very varied, since Mexico is a Multicultural and Multiracial State, due to historical globalization.

Therefore, it is not surprising that the most populous Hispanic-American country in the world, the second most populous in Latin America and the second most populous in Ibero-America, has more whites than the rest. Still, non-whites end up being the largest group with 71,207,371/74,207,371 people.

Sources: 21 de Marzo: Día Internacional de la Eliminación de la Discriminación Racial" [March 21: International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination]. Mexico: CONAPRED. 2017. p. 7. Retrieved August 23, 2017.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mexicans

[National Survey on Discrimination in Mexico] (PDF) (in Spanish). Mexico: CONAPRED. June 2011. Retrieved August 24, 2017.

Mexicans who are pure European are like 1% of the population from most genetic studies I have seen, lmao. And people over 80% are perhaps 10%. As a whole it is not one of the whitest countries in Latin America. They are balanced mestizo to harnizo on average.

Are you really Finnish or just another Chicano troll?

[HelloGuys]

If my friend is White, it's not your problem. It is one thing to be in Europe, and another thing to be in a global world like America. I asked for a rating, not an opinion. Worry more about Europe (white world) than America (multinational world).

I loved this comment

[Gauthier]

Nordid.

Not the most common type in Mexico, but they do exist.

Could pass as El Guero Valle's sister. xD


El Guero Valle

https://i.imgur.com/UmnB52v.png

Canelo

https://i.imgur.com/Q6zteuA.png

Marco Antonio Durán Quezada

https://i.imgur.com/bfaK9hl.jpg

El Guero Palma

https://i.imgur.com/JK0caWk.png

[Jana]

Obvious troll thread. Person is Russian (and looks eastern European) and photos are taken from yandex which is a Russian website.
Neither would any person post their "friend" full name online (unless it's fake)

OWD.

[lei.talk]

Sofía Alexandra Barkmann Castillo

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even these two avatar-images from russia
do not use that name.



https://i.imgur.com/1kCv6ma.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex_Browser)

[Erronkari]

Mexicans who are pure European are like 1% of the population from most genetic studies I have seen, lmao. And people over 80% are perhaps 10%. As a whole it is not one of the whitest countries in Latin America. They are balanced mestizo to harnizo on average.

Are you really Finnish or just another Chicano troll?

In Latam only in Uruguay people 100% Euro by genetics reach 30% of the population.
In Argentina around 15%, similar in Cuba.
Brazil and Puerto Rico 5 to 8%.
In Mexico +80% could be 15 or 20% Euro… and may be even more could look white.. idk.
But in Latam 15% of the population 100% Euro it’s a rarity / minority…
All genetic studies until now prove that fact.

[NorseWarrior]

Obvious troll thread. Person is Russian (and looks eastern European) and photos are taken from yandex which is a Russian website.
Neither would any person post their "friend" full name online (unless it's fake)

OWD.

She's not Russian, idiot. She is of German, Estonian and Spanish origin. His mother's half Estonian and Spanish, asshole.

[NorseWarrior]

even these two avatar-images from russia
do not use that name.



https://i.imgur.com/1kCv6ma.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex_Browser)

I uploaded these images to Yandex, because I use the Yandex browser and until recently I did not know how to upload images to Apricity. Check out my first threads and you'll see I didn't know how to insert images.

[El_Jibaro]

In Latam only in Uruguay people 100% Euro by genetics reach 30% of the population.
In Argentina around 15%, similar in Cuba.
Brazil and Puerto Rico 5 to 8%.
In Mexico +80% could be 15 or 20% Euro… and may be even more could look white.. idk.
But in Latam 15% of the population 100% Euro it’s a rarity / minority…
All genetic studies until now prove that fact.

Of course, my friend :thumb001:.

[Duffmannn]

I agree that both photos don´t show the same person.

[Hasien]

In Latam only in Uruguay people 100% Euro by genetics reach 30% of the population.
In Argentina around 15%, similar in Cuba.
Brazil and Puerto Rico 5 to 8%.
In Mexico +80% could be 15 or 20% Euro… and may be even more could look white.. idk.
But in Latam 15% of the population 100% Euro it’s a rarity / minority…
All genetic studies until now prove that fact.

To me only 20% of the Mexican population could be said to be over 70% + euro.


20% over 80% euro Is alot and unrealistic.

[Erronkari]

To me only 20% of the Mexican population could be said to be over 70% + euro.


20% over 80% euro Is alot and unrealistic.

Thank you to correct me, bro.
You are the expert in this case. ;)

[Hasien]

Thank you to correct me, bro.
You are the expert in this case. ;)

I mean I wish LoL, but gotta keep It real.

[NorseWarrior]

Mexicans who are pure European are like 1% of the population from most genetic studies I have seen, lmao. And people over 80% are perhaps 10%. As a whole it is not one of the whitest countries in Latin America. They are balanced mestizo to harnizo on average.

Are you really Finnish or just another Chicano troll?

Check the statistics and visit Mexico. When I traveled to Mexico in 2017 to Guadalajara, Chihuahua, the Capital of the Country, Veracruz and Monterrey, on a trip with 3 friends, you can find Whites, Blacks, Indians and Mestizos of great variety. Only an ignorant person like you, who does not know about other countries or is dedicated to research, makes no sense.

In Mexico, European purity is 15%, not 1%, asshole. You do not need to be "pure" to be classified as White, as you may have an ancestry of 85-90% European and a small percentage of blood of another race. You're a half-breed, but you're also White.

In Mexico there is the ideology of identifying yourself as a Mestizo despite being purely White, Black or Indigenous: ”here we are all mestizos.“ Therefore, it is not uncommon for many Mexicans of different races to identify with being "Mestizos."

I'm not a Chicano, since I'm a Finnish and I do not live in the United States, but in Oulu. Surely you are a subject of Moroccan descent who pretends to be Spanish and envies Mexicans who were born White.

[NorseWarrior]

I agree that both photos don´t show the same person.

Is the same person. Facial Features, please. Are you blind or what?

[El_Jibaro]

Check the statistics and visit Mexico. When I traveled to Mexico in 2017 to Guadalajara, Chihuahua, the Capital of the Country, Veracruz and Monterrey, on a trip with 3 friends, you can find Whites, Blacks, Indians and Mestizos of great variety. Only an ignorant person like you, who does not know about other countries or is dedicated to research, makes no sense.


I don't need to check statistics, those are flawed for every Latin American country. I have looked at the genetics though.


In Mexico, European purity is 15%, not 1%, asshole. You do not need to be "pure" to be classified as White, as you may have an ancestry of 85-90% European and a small percentage of blood of another race. You're a half-breed, but you're also White.


Nigga, you yourself said that "pure Europeans (totally pure) symbolize 15% of the population". That is bullshit. No genetic study I have seen corroborates that claim.


In Mexico there is the ideology of identifying yourself as a Mestizo despite being purely White, Black or Indigenous: ”here we are all mestizos.“ Therefore, it is not uncommon for many Mexicans of different races to identify with being "Mestizos."


The country is balanced mestizo to harnizo on average. Is there diversity? Yes, of course. Although your claims are an exaggeration.

[NorseWarrior]

I don't need to check statistics, those are flawed for every Latin American country. I have looked at the genetics though.



Nigga, you yourself said that "pure Europeans (totally pure) symbolize 15% of the population". That is bullshit. No genetic study I have seen corroborates that claim.



The country is balanced mestizo to harnizo on average. Is there diversity? Yes, of course. Although your claims are an exaggeration.

For its 130,207,371 inhabitants, Mexico is obviously going to have a lot of varied population. And apart from tone, clown and idiot you are blind, illiterate, since you are not able to connect you to investigate and realize that in a country where the Government itself (something you don't know), has led to a program of asmiliar to all loa individuals of different races, has made a number of people will identify as Mestizo, although not to be and that depending on the opinion of Mexicans, the surveys say something different. But of course, someone so ignorant that he knows nothing and only gets carried away by stereotypes that Americans sow, will live in another reality.

[El_Jibaro]

For its 130,207,371 inhabitants, Mexico is obviously going to have a lot of varied population. And apart from tone, clown and idiot you are blind, illiterate, since you are not able to connect you to investigate and realize that in a country where the Government itself (something you don't know), has led to a program of asmiliar to all loa individuals of different races, has made a number of people will identify as Mestizo, although not to be and that depending on the opinion of Mexicans, the surveys say something different. But of course, someone so ignorant that he knows nothing and only gets carried away by stereotypes that Americans sow, will live in another reality.

Show me one genetic study which corroborates your claim of there being 15% of pure white Mexicans. I'm waiting.

[NorseWarrior]

Show me one genetic study which corroborates your claim of there being 15% of pure white Mexicans. I'm waiting.

Sources in my First Answer for you.

[El_Jibaro]

Sources in my First Answer for you.

I read both of your links and there is no evidence for what you claimed.

This is closer to reality:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?351903-Ancestral-range-of-various-Mexican-states

[NorseWarrior]

I read both of your links and there is no evidence for what you claimed.

This is closer to reality:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?351903-Ancestral-range-of-various-Mexican-states

https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/49/184549-004-7DE1AF69.jpg

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/mexico/

10-15%

USA White Mexican Population (2011) Pag 14: https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-04.pdf

[Erronkari]

https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/49/184549-004-7DE1AF69.jpg

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/mexico/

10-15%

USA White Mexican Population (2011) Pag 14: https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-04.pdf

That’s not wrong.
But that 15% is not 100% genetically talking.
Many White-Latinos (not only mexicans) are just +80 or 85% by genetics and look euro. That’s it.

[TheForeigner]

When I earlier saw this pic I thought she looks just like all those blonde and light brown haired, blue eyed white Mexican actresses you see in Mexican soap operas, but that somehow Americans never see on their streets. Must be either very rare or chiefly an upper class and upper middle class phenotype.

[TheForeigner]

I was once listening to a radio interview of Mexican-American comedian Louis C.K. and the hosts Opie and Anthony together with a black comedian Patrice O'Neal were amazed that he is Mexican, because he has red hair or remnants of it. They were really like shocked and laughing with the black saying he thought he was a "Mick"(i.e. Irish). The video and audio of it might still be on youtube.

[Erronkari]

When I earlier saw this pic I thought she looks just like all those blonde and light brown haired, blue eyed white Mexican actresses you see in Mexican soap operas, but that somehow Americans never see on their streets. Must be either very rare or chiefly an upper class and upper middle class phenotype.

It’s because most of them have some degree of mix although it’s not percived by the phenotype.
In this case Castillo is a very common colonial surname… it’s practically impossible to find colonial descendants without nothing of native ancestry.
Of course she has also German ancestry and she looks 100% white, but probably due to that reason or others she probably looks a bit different to white american girls, I don’t know.

[NorseWarrior]

That’s not wrong.
But that 15% is not 100% genetically talking.
Many White-Latinos (not only mexicans) are just +80 or 85% by genetics and look euro. That’s it.

We are not talking about 100% of the Population, but the purity between 10 and 15% of European/White Mexicans. And in addition, I added data on European Mexicans in the United States that symbolize about 16,794,111 in 2011.

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[Jana]

She's not Russian, idiot. She is of German, Estonian and Spanish origin. His mother's half Estonian and Spanish, asshole.

Learn your manners, caveman. I am the real white Mexican.

[Erronkari]

We are not talking about 100% of the Population, but the purity between 10 and 15% of European/White Mexicans. And in addition, I added data on European Mexicans in the United States that symbolize about 16,794,111 in 2011.

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Exactly, what I am saying is most of people of that 15% are not 100% Euro by genetics.
Most of them have some Amerindian split which is minor, so it doesn’t show in the phenotype.
The same happens in all latinamerican countries, the only exception is Uruguay which have around 25% of the population with people 100% euro descendants. But the rest are thus.
Altough in Latin America nobody cares about purity genetically talking and not even 1% of the population made a test.

But yes, back to the op… I agree people like this girl are not totally uncommon in Mexico.

[Hasien]

Exactly, what I am saying is most of people of that 15% are not 100% Euro by genetics.
Most of them have some Amerindian split which is minor, so it doesn’t show in the phenotype.
The same happens in all latinamerican countries, the only exception is Uruguay which have around 25% of the population with people 100% euro descendants. But the rest are thus.
Altough in Latin America nobody cares about purity genetically talking and not even 1% of the population made a test.

But yes, back to the op… I agree people like this girl are not totally uncommon in Mexico.

Shes really not, I've seen blond blue eyed Mexicans being only 70-75% euro or so I guess all It depends In the person.


Not sure if this blond girl In the Tumblr looks pseudo scando or Jewish.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGKXVRgO1as



Nobody In Mexico walks to fair skinned blond Mexicans and say "oh are you a foreigner!?" They may not be the typical phenotype but not strange either...

[lei.talk]

https://youtu.be/3Eo1lkrFZ4s

[El_Jibaro]

We are not talking about 100% of the Population, but the purity between 10 and 15% of European/White Mexicans. And in addition, I added data on European Mexicans in the United States that symbolize about 16,794,111 in 2011.

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10%-15% of the population is not pure European as you claimed. Most of those people who identify as white are probably in the 70%+ range.

As you can see in the link I shared barely anyone is above 90%.

[NorseWarrior]

10%-15% of the population is not pure European as you claimed. Most of those people who identify as white are probably in the 70%+ range.

As you can see in the link I shared barely anyone is above 90%.

Today it is unlikely that a Mexican is considered "White" or of any other race, within traditional contexts, due to the ideology of Miscegenation. It was often believed that the number of the decline in the White population was due to extermination, displacement or mass migration, but in reality it was due to the fact that many assimilated together with other indigenous people to the Ideology of Mestizaje. And for that reason, Africans, Indigenous People and Europeans are no longer found more frequently in censuses and statistics.
For example, Britannica put a statistic in 2010 where Whites were 15%, but more recently CIA published a new statistic where Whites were in decline (10%): https://web.archive.org/web/20130823015618/http://www.nacionmulticultural.unam.mx/Portal/Izquierdo/BANCO/Mxmulticultural/Elmestizajeylasculturas-elmestizaje.html

[HelloGuys]

Nobody In Mexico walks to fair skinned blond Mexicans and say "oh are you a foreigner!?" They may not be the typical phenotype but not strange either...

Not necessarily; I have 2 friends that when they go to the beach are always asked in English language if they are Germans or something like that

[HelloGuys]

Exactly, what I am saying is most of people of that 15% are not 100% Euro by genetics.
Most of them have some Amerindian split which is minor, so it doesn’t show in the phenotype.
The same happens in all latinamerican countries, the only exception is Uruguay which have around 25% of the population with people 100% euro descendants. But the rest are thus.
Altough in Latin America nobody cares about purity genetically talking and not even 1% of the population made a test.

But yes, back to the op… I agree people like this girl are not totally uncommon in Mexico.

I would say she is more rare than uncommon tbh; she is one of the type of girls that mexicans usually blend as "high class looking"

[Hasien]

Not necessarily; I have 2 friends that when they go to the beach are always asked in English language if they are Germans or something like that

Yes many of my blonde blue eyed relatives have went to Puerto Vallarta and Cancun and have been mistaking for gringo's.


But that's because It's a gringo made tourist hotspot, I'm sure In 100% authentic Mexican places won't happen.

[HelloGuys]

10%-15% of the population is not pure European as you claimed. Most of those people who identify as white are probably in the 70%+ range.

As you can see in the link I shared barely anyone is above 90%.

The user Argentano made a grafic of autosomal results in 2018 and it showed that mexicans who score 90-10% European are just 1 percent, 80-90% Euro are 5% and 70-80 like the 10% of the population...so mexicans who are 70-100% European are just the 16% of the population in his "study".

On the other hand, the user birdman (I think this is their username) did a recollection of Gedmatch results in 2020 of 555 Mexicans and the 13% of them scored 80-100% Euro.

So mexicans who are 90% are less than that percentage and fully european are even less still.

[NorseWarrior]

Learn your manners, caveman. I am the real white Mexican.

I apologize for that. However, it is a total stupidity to have classified as "Russian" a person you do not even know and not realize that in other countries (such as the Baltic States, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, East Germany, Sweden, Norway) there are also similar phenotypes and not uncommon.

By the way: In Russia the Nordic type is very common and does not have "Baltic"characteristics:

http://cs308322.userapi.com/v308322955/2c74/UlqMnGt5UfI.jpg

http://cs9301.userapi.com/u1088720/114047724/x_c4a28b95.jpg

[HelloGuys]

Yes many of my blonde blue eyed relatives have went to Puerto Vallarta and Cancun and have been mistaking for gringo's.


But that's because It's a gringo made tourist hotspot, I'm sure In 100% authentic Mexican places won't happen.

Except Center and Southern of México in general; they are usually assumed as gringos there too lol

[El_Jibaro]

The user Argentano made a grafic of autosomal results in 2018 and it showed that mexicans who score 90-10% European are just 1 percent, 80-90% Euro are 5% and 70-80 like the 10% of the population...so mexicans who are 70-100% European are just the 16% of the population in his "study".

On the other hand, the user birdman (I think this is their username) did a recollection of Gedmatch results in 2020 of 555 Mexicans and the 13% of them scored 80-100% Euro.

So mexicans who are 90% are less than that percentage and fully european are even less still.

Yeah, sounds about right.

[Hasien]

Except Center and Southern of México in general; they are usually assumed as gringos there too lol

You think those 80-100% euro mexicans who are approx 6% of the population are mostly middle to upper class In Mexico? Leaving Los Altos aside ofc..



I really don't think you can find working class Mexicans who are 80% + euro besides Los Altos or towns some similar.

[hmaohma78]

You think those 80-100% euro mexicans who are approx 6% of the population are mostly middle to upper class In Mexico? Leaving Los Altos aside ofc..



I really don't think you can find working class Mexicans who are 80% + euro besides Los Altos or towns some similar.

You could it just more common in older folks.

[Hasien]

You could it just more common in older folks.

I will like to see a social economic level study I'm sure the people who have the biggest salary Income (USD) are probably the most European ones.


That's what I meant.

[Gauthier]

The user Argentano made a grafic of autosomal results in 2018 and it showed that mexicans who score 90-10% European are just 1 percent, 80-90% Euro are 5% and 70-80 like the 10% of the population...so mexicans who are 70-100% European are just the 16% of the population in his "study".

On the other hand, the user birdman (I think this is their username) did a recollection of Gedmatch results in 2020 of 555 Mexicans and the 13% of them scored 80-100% Euro.

So mexicans who are 90% are less than that percentage and fully european are even less still.

Take GEDmatch results of 'Mexicans' with a grain of salt. For the most part they belong to descendants of poor migrants in the United States. Many of them happen to have ancestry from the northern and western Mexican states.

[Hasien]

Take GEDmatch results of 'Mexicans' with a grain of salt. For the most part they belong to descendants of poor migrants in the United States. Many of them happen to have ancestry from the northern and western Mexican states.

But the gedmatch chart study doesn't seem the far from reality, to me no less than 15% and no more of 20% of the Mexican population Is passable as some type of European.



So I will say the chart of Mexico sample by Argentano Is highly accurate, maybe some Indo-mestizos/natives a bit unrepresented..

[Gauthier]

But the gedmatch chart study doesn't seem the far from reality, to me no less than 15% and no more of 20% of the Mexican population Is passable as some type of European.


So I will say the chart of Mexico sample by Argentano Is highly accurate, maybe some Indo-mestizos/natives a bit unrepresented..


How can it be highly accurate when 70% of Mexico is not represented? You are missing the middle and upper class. The heavy Amerindian populations from the south, the central states, etc.

[HelloGuys]

You think those 80-100% euro mexicans who are approx 6% of the population are mostly middle to upper class In Mexico? Leaving Los Altos aside ofc..



I really don't think you can find working class Mexicans who are 80% + euro besides Los Altos or towns some similar.

Pues hay personas que sin ser de clase media alta o alta pueden sacar esos resultados; pero ya son de manera individual; colectivamente pues serían lados con alta carga euro obviamente (Como el Norte de Michoacán, Sur de Zacatecas, Los Altos, La Zona Metropolitana de Monterrey y sus alrededores, etc etc)

[HelloGuys]

Take GEDmatch results of 'Mexicans' with a grain of salt. For the most part they belong to descendants of poor migrants in the United States. Many of them happen to have ancestry from the northern and western Mexican states.

Don't worry bro; I know what you mean and I always try to take with a grain of salt this type of results ;)