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[Zeraa]

Hello all

I'm interested in understanding the diverse views behind the European preservationist movement first hand from the people themselves. I don't share such views for the most part as I'm an internationalist liberal socialist, and I'm also not a European (although I am West Eurasian not that it matters). I don't intend to upset or annoy anyone with my views and thus I won't be posting. But I just thought I'd let you know as honesty is important to me and I shouldn't use your forum without an explanation.Anyway, thanks for reading and I'll see you around

Thank you

[Magister Eckhart]

Hello all

I'm interested in understanding the diverse views behind the European preservationist movement first hand from the people themselves. I don't share such views for the most part as I'm an internationalist liberal socialist, and I'm also not a European (although I am West Eurasian not that it matters). I don't intend to upset or annoy anyone with my views and thus I won't be posting. But I just thought I'd let you know as honesty is important to me and I shouldn't use your forum without an explanation.Anyway, thanks for reading and I'll see you around

Thank you

I'm sceptical, to be honest, which I am sure you expected. However, if you're genuinely interested, I'm genuinely willing to answer any questions you might have. Just remember where you are, and I think you'll be fine.

If you have specific quandaries or queries, I know many of us will be willing to deal with you honestly, as you have dealt with us honestly. We all have different approaches to the problems our civilization faces, but many of us to seem to end up reaching the same conclusions despite how we got there.

I appreciate you not posting your own views - it shows a distinct sense of respect for who we are and what we believe in here. Thank you for making your presence known; if you want to ask any questions on Christian (by which I mean Catholic) Traditionalism and Elitism, I am willing to make myself available as one of the representatives of this particular approach to Western preservation.

[Mordid]

Welcome.

[Oreka Bailoak]

I'm interested in understanding the diverse views behind the European preservationist movement first hand from the people themselves. I don't share such views for the most part as I'm an internationalist liberal socialist, and I'm also not a European (although I am West Eurasian not that it matters).

Different races, different cultures, different religions produce different types of society; look at mid-west America, and Mexico for an example of two regions that share a culture but differ by race and the differences between the societies is large. Look at Nigeria or Haiti for nations that differ by culture (islam/christian vs. christian) but are similar by race and they have strong similarities. Iran, Japan etc. the differences are obvious. I have no problem with tourists traveling all around, students going to far away universities, or even high skilled workers traveling around different countries for a limited time and returning back to their home country afterwards.

I have a problem with massive immigration in that it is not healthy for a nations natural culture long term- Social erosion takes place similar to the book 'Bowling Alone' by Robert Putnam.

I respect countries that value and strive to keep their native population homogeneous; racially, and culturally like Japan. This has nothing to do with hating other groups of people but just a love for ones own group.

Since you have west-Eurasian ancestry, how would you like it if millions of immigrants of a different race, and different culture came to your ancestral homeland in west Eurasia by the millions increasing the crime rate, eroding the social capital, and diluting the nations natural culture. No country wants that to happen on a massive scale (which is happening currently in many western-European countries and places where European people live all over the world).

Is it wrong to love your group and want it to carry on the beliefs, attitudes, genetics and values of your people into the next generation? I don't think so and neither do any Islamic countries, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Singapore etc.

[Zeraa]

I'm sceptical, to be honest, which I am sure you expected. However, if you're genuinely interested, I'm genuinely willing to answer any questions you might have. Just remember where you are, and I think you'll be fine.

If you have specific quandaries or queries, I know many of us will be willing to deal with you honestly, as you have dealt with us honestly. We all have different approaches to the problems our civilization faces, but many of us to seem to end up reaching the same conclusions despite how we got there.




Scepticism is very healthy, so I commend you on that. Anyway, I'm not really interested in asking questions per se. I have a pretty solid grasp of most political and religious ideologies found on this forum, I have been looking into politics and religions for years, I'm not here for talking points or basic explanations, I'm here to see the exchanges and the interactions-which is the best way to observe any ideology or tradition-the official doctrine is only just one angle, I'm here to see as many angles as possible.

Anyway, thanks for the offer, like I said, I won't be needing any answers to specific questions and that's not why I'm here.




I appreciate you not posting your own views - it shows a distinct sense of respect for who we are and what we believe in here. Thank you for making your presence known; if you want to ask any questions on Christian (by which I mean Catholic) Traditionalism and Elitism, I am willing to make myself available as one of the representatives of this particular approach to Western preservation.

Again thanks for the offer.

And I appreciate the compliment and civility you have shown.

Regards

[Laudanum]

Hi, welcome!:)


I don't intend to upset or annoy anyone with my views and thus I won't be posting.

Please post!:) It's always nice to have interesting discussions and see people with new opinions.:thumb001:

[Zeraa]

Welcome.

Thanks, I like your username.


Different races, different cultures, different religions produce different types of society; look at mid-west America, and Mexico for an example of two regions that share a culture but differ by race and the differences between the societies is large. Look at Nigeria or Haiti for nations that differ by culture (islam/christian vs. christian) but are similar by race and they have strong similarities. Iran, Japan etc. the differences are obvious. I have no problem with tourists traveling all around, students going to far away universities, or even high skilled workers traveling around different countries for a limited time and returning back to their home country afterwards.

I have a problem with multiculturalism (idiotic cultural relativism) and massive immigration in that it is not healthy for a nations natural culture long term- Social erosion takes place similar to the book 'Bowling Alone' by Robert Putnam.

I respect countries that value and strive to keep their native population homogeneous; racially, and culturally like Japan. This has nothing to do with hating other groups of people but just a love for ones own group.

Since you have west-Eurasian ancestry, how would you like it if millions of immigrants of a different race, and different culture came to your ancestral homeland in west Eurasia by the millions increasing the crime rate, eroding the social capital, and diluting the nations natural culture. No country wants that to happen on a massive scale (which is happening currently in many western-European countries and places where European people live all over the world).

Is it wrong to love your group and want it to carry on the beliefs, attitudes, genetics and values of your people into the next generation? I don't think so and neither do any Islamic countries, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Singapore etc.

Thank you for explaining your position, although it was largely unnecessary because I already understand this position, like I said to the above user, I'm here to see how these positions are manifested. I'll give you a few examples, a few years ago I was studying the philsopher H.L.A Hart and his view on jurisprudence and the concept of law, now, I read and reread his positions in his own books and articles, but this only gave me a superficial picture of Hart and his positions, the best source of information for a deeper understanding of his ideas were found in his debates, exchanges and letters. In this case, I've read articles, blogs and positions from various parts of the 'preservationist' movement, but now I want more, I want to delve deeper and that's why I'm here to read threads and posts.

Again, I do appreciate that you gave me a response and it outlines your views, however, this is not new to me and it's not why I'm here-I hope you understand. I also realise that you asked me a few questions about my views, but if you don't mind I won't answer here, as I did promise not to post my views, and beyond this thread I won't be posting at all.

Thanks again for responding with civility.

[Zeraa]

Hi, welcome!:)



Please post!:) It's always nice to have interesting discussions and see people with new opinions.:thumb001:

Thank you, you seem very nice. However I don't believe it's fair to the majority of the forum users here who come here not to argue with opposing views but rather to be amongst their own both in terms of ethnicity and culture and in terms of political viewpoints, I feel posting would cause hostility and resentment-neither of which are sound building blocks for a discussion.

I may perhaps reconsider that later however it's not likely, although PM exchanges could be possible, but again, I'm here to learn.

Regards

[Laudanum]

Thank you, you seem very nice. However I don't believe it's fair to the majority of the forum users here who come here not to argue with opposing views but rather to be amongst their own both in terms of ethnicity and culture and in terms of political viewpoints, I feel posting would cause hostility and resentment-neither of which are sound building blocks for a discussion.

I may perhaps reconsider that later however it's not likely, although PM exchanges could be possible, but again, I'm here to learn.

Regards

I hope you will reconsider at some point.:)

[Oreka Bailoak]

I don't intend to upset or annoy anyone with my views and thus I won't be posting. But I just thought I'd let you know as honesty is important to me and I shouldn't use your forum without an explanation.
I like debating ideas. It's hard when people say they don't agree with you but refuse to talk. If you feel like posting then do so- I'd enjoy it. If you'd rather message me then go ahead.


Again, I do appreciate that you gave me a response and it outlines your views, however, this is not new to me and it's not why I'm here-I hope you understand.



Thank you for explaining your position, although it was largely unnecessary because I already understand this position, like I said to the above user, I'm here to see how these positions are manifested.

Most people have never thought all the way through those arguments before.

[Absinthe]

Welcome :) Let's see what you will make of this experience, then :)