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Voskos
11-02-2021, 10:39 PM
South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp,29.17,40.22 ,11.71,8.24,7.15,0.06,1.56,0.00,0.48,0.97,0.27,0.0 0,0.17
South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_,30.33,47.37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1. 56,0.89,0.00,0.42,0.00
East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _,25.54,45.76,13.11,4.08,6.15,0.53,0.00,0.00,2.60, 1.08,0.58,0.53,0.00
Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp,48. 08,19.16,23.33,0.01,6.63,1.07,0.10,0.00,0.00,0.68, 0.00,0.24,0.69
Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_,10.52,2.73,31.92,8.82,36.83,8.03,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.86,0.00,0.30
Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp ,52.54,25.61,7.98,6.28,0.00,5.74,0.00,0.00,0.07,0. 00,0.37,0.00,1.41
Pharaonic:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp,1.13,0 .00,18.89,4.31,46.89,21.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,7.57,0.00
Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_,0.55,0.50,12.28,56.55,30.13 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp,0.00,0.00,15.19 ,14.95,52.52,14.97,0.00,0.00,0.16,0.59,0.00,1.61,0 .00
West_African:Bantu_S.W.,0.07,0.06,0.08,0.07,0.10,0 .13,0.08,0.07,0.22,0.07,0.33,13.01,85.70
East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.03,0.03,0.02,0.02,0.02,61.65,38.24
Proto_Turkic:Selkup,1.71,25.06,0.00,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,2.68,0.95,59.32,6.05,0.40,0.00,0.02
East_Asian:Japanese,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.01, 0.22,65.93,31.72,0.83,0.62,0.32,0.30
Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp,1.28,2.23,9.2 4,43.58,26.69,8.18,8.09,0.08,0.00,0.51,0.05,0.00,0 .06
Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp,18.68,72.57 ,1.20,0.35,0.00,0.24,3.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.98,0.23 ,0.99
Dušan
11-02-2021, 10:48 PM
Close distance, nice calculator :)

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.1543% / 2.15432892
69.7 East_Slavic
18.5 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.9 Armenian_Kingdom
5.9 Celtic
Voskos
11-02-2021, 11:03 PM
Close distance, nice calculator :)

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.1543% / 2.15432892
69.7 East_Slavic
18.5 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.9 Armenian_Kingdom
5.9 Celtic

nice result brate.
Gallop
11-02-2021, 11:16 PM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 9.8036% / 9.80359433
80.5 Celtic
12.3 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.1 Armenian_Kingdom
1.9 East_African
0.2 East_Asian


Target: Father
Distance: 5.2814% / 5.28139321
77.2 Celtic
19.9 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
2.8 West_African
0.1 East_Asian
Dick
11-02-2021, 11:18 PM
Target: Dick
Distance: 3.7945% / 3.79449691
29.6 South_Slavic
24.9 Judaean
18.5 Baltic
16.7 Celtic
10.3 Germanic
Dušan
11-02-2021, 11:18 PM
nice result brate.


Thank you, o Éllinas aderfós mou.

Check my interesting model of 50%-50% that I found of modern population from updated K13 calculator:

https://i.imgur.com/FXoy2ie.png
Voskos
11-02-2021, 11:21 PM
Target: vosk
Distance: 97.3292% / 0.97329157
26.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
17.2 Armenian_Kingdom
15.0 Judaean
13.8 Celtic
11.2 Pharaonic
7.2 South_Slavic
4.6 Germanic
3.6 East_Slavic
0.8 Baltic
Gallop
11-02-2021, 11:21 PM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 9.8036% / 9.80359433
80.5 Celtic
12.3 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.1 Armenian_Kingdom
1.9 East_African
0.2 East_Asian


Target: Father
Distance: 5.2814% / 5.28139321
77.2 Celtic
19.9 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
2.8 West_African
0.1 East_Asian

Well, I'm more Chinese than Japanese if I look at my results from YourdnaPortal's Modern Pangea.;)


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Polak
11-02-2021, 11:24 PM
Target: Polak
Distance: 4.2716% / 4.27164714
47.6 Baltic
26.7 Celtic
11.1 Germanic
8.8 South_Slavic
4.5 Judaean
1.3 East_Asian

Target: Polak
Distance: 4.3010% / 4.30100583 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.5 Baltic
26.2 Celtic
11.6 Germanic
9.1 South_Slavic
5.3 Judaean
1.3 East_Asian

Decent calculator, picked up on my Jewish, Tatar and German ancestry :)
Voskos
11-02-2021, 11:32 PM
Never understood why my Slavic keeps getting mistaken as Celtic/Germanic etc. It's either the Eurogenes calc being fucked up or my references being shitty.
Voskos
11-02-2021, 11:43 PM
Thank you, o Éllinas aderfós mou.

Check my interesting model of 50%-50% that I found of modern population from updated K13 calculator:

https://i.imgur.com/FXoy2ie.png

fully Orthodox.
Rafael Passoni
11-03-2021, 12:03 AM
Target: Rafael_Passoni
Distance: 2.4045% / 2.40447276
51.6 Celtic
38.3 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.7 Judaean
4.4 Armenian_Kingdom
chrisbab
11-03-2021, 12:18 AM
Target: chrisbabmomk13
Distance: 368.3022% / 3.68302231
34.6 Celtic
32.2 Judaean
26.2 Baltic
4.6 Proto_Turkic
1.2 East_Slavic
1.2 Germanic

Target: chrisbabdadk13
Distance: 410.6704% / 4.10670374
56.6 South_Slavic
24.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
10.6 Judaean
4.8 Armenian_Kingdom
3.0 Baltic
0.4 East_Slavic
0.2 East_Asian

Target: chrisbabk13
Distance: 403.7962% / 4.03796197
38.8 South_Slavic
35.4 Judaean
19.2 Celtic
5.0 Baltic
1.6 Germanic
celticdragongod
11-03-2021, 12:28 AM
Distance to: CDG
8.45611613 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
14.84980808 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
25.91195670 South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
29.51242450 South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_
32.06004835 East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _
58.06841396 Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp
60.58240008 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_
70.67582331 Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp
74.18941299 Pharaonic:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp
76.79083539 Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp
77.17961583 Proto_Turkic:Selkup
79.63160051 Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_
92.85600681 East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak
93.03612309 East_Asian:Japanese
104.20622246 West_African:Bantu_S.W.

Target: CDG
Distance: 4.5721% / 4.57212535
61.5 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
27.6 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
10.2 South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
0.7 Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_
Coastal Elite
11-03-2021, 12:45 AM
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.0007% / 4.00074806
50.9 Celtic
23.5 Germanic
11.1 Armenian_Kingdom
9.0 South_Slavic
5.5 Judaean
Grace O'Malley
11-03-2021, 12:49 AM
Target: Grace
Distance: 432.9397% / 4.32939691
83.2 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
12.8 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
2.6 South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
1.4 Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_
gixajo
11-03-2021, 12:52 AM
Not very good distances for us.

Target: gixajo
Distance: 9.1080% / 9.10804868
81.7 Celtic
17.7 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
0.6 East_African

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 8.0683% / 8.06829869
71.7 Celtic
27.1 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
1.2 East_African

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 8.4526% / 8.45257832
87.9 Celtic
12.1 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
Dirdepo
11-03-2021, 12:54 AM
I wouldn't put too much stock in it

;)
gixajo
11-03-2021, 01:10 AM
I wouldn't put too much stock in it

;)

Just fun. No Iberian IA or Italian IA +good "modern" North African references no good distances for Iberians.:)
Voskos
11-03-2021, 01:13 AM
Just fun. No Iberian IA or Italian IA +good "modern" North African references no good distances for Iberians.:)

modern Italians overlap too much with Greeks so adding them fucks up the results for all Balkanites. In the case of Iberians, my apologies .
Dirdepo
11-03-2021, 01:13 AM
Just fun. No Iberian IA or Italian IA +good "modern" North African references no good distances for Iberians.:)

Fun is your sister with 75% Ottoman_Hurrem_MiddleAges
calxpal
11-03-2021, 02:12 AM
Target: cpal
Distance: 132.8804% / 1.32880365
38.0 South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
35.0 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
19.0 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
6.8 Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp
1.0 Proto_Turkic:Selkup
0.2 East_Asian:Japanese

Target: cpal
Distance: 143.1457% / 1.43145693
39.0 South_Slavic
35.0 Germanic
18.6 Celtic
6.8 Judaean
0.6 East_Asian

Target: cpal
Distance: 228.4920% / 2.28492007 | R3P
50.0 Germanic
37.0 South_Slavic
13.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian

Distance to: cpal
15.91989322 South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
16.98920245 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
18.22313639 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
21.95023690 South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_
22.53756864 East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _
51.24757555 Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp
52.04033147 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_
62.60772716 Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp
64.71893618 Pharaonic:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp
67.31332483 Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp
71.14229825 Proto_Turkic:Selkup
72.54183276 Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_
88.49914632 East_Asian:Japanese
88.62443399 East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak
100.45173518 West_African:Bantu_S.W.
Hulu
11-03-2021, 03:00 AM
Target: Hulu
Distance: 125.4739% / 1.25473912
57.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
25.6 East_Slavic
9.6 Armenian_Kingdom
6.2 Celtic
0.8 East_African
Rafael Passoni
11-03-2021, 03:15 AM
Dad:
Distance: 6.4625% / 6.46252664
60.4 Celtic
36.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
3.2 Armenian_Kingdom
mom:

Target: m
Distance: 3.3588% / 3.35880924
52.9 Celtic
21.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
20.9 Judaean
4.8 Baltic
Celestia
11-03-2021, 04:20 AM
Target: Celestia
Distance: 2.9257% / 2.92567768
53.0 Germanic
42.5 Celtic
3.2 Armenian_Kingdom
0.9 East_Asian
0.4 West_African
oszkar07
11-03-2021, 07:40 AM
bump
gixajo
11-03-2021, 09:28 AM
modern Italians overlap too much with Greeks so adding them fucks up the results for all Balkanites. In the case of Iberians, my apologies .

You don't have to apologize for anything, modeling everyone properly with the k13 while getting everyone to get good distances, is a more complicated task than it may seem at first glance.
Dunai
11-03-2021, 10:16 AM
Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.6558% / 1.65583699
52.3 South_Slavic
20.5 Celtic
16.5 Germanic
5.0 Judaean
2.6 Proto_Turkic
1.6 Armenian_Kingdom
1.5 East_Asian
Voskos
11-03-2021, 12:18 PM
Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.6558% / 1.65583699
52.3 South_Slavic
20.5 Celtic
16.5 Germanic
5.0 Judaean
2.6 Proto_Turkic
1.6 Armenian_Kingdom
1.5 East_Asian

looks very good for you.
Pedro Ruben
11-03-2021, 12:26 PM
Target: Pedro
Distance: 2.3332% / 2.33324177
71.0 Celtic
15.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
8.6 Pharaonic
2.3 East_African
1.9 West_African
0.4 East_Asian

Target: Dad
Distance: 2.7063% / 2.70625309
64.2 Celtic
29.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
4.1 East_African
0.9 East_Asian
0.7 Pharaonic
0.7 West_African

Target: Mom
Distance: 5.8872% / 5.88719428
76.5 Celtic
20.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
3.3 East_African
Kaspias
11-03-2021, 12:36 PM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.5336% / 2.53362358 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.4 South_Slavic
16.3 Mesopotamian
14.1 Judaean
11.8 Proto_Turkic
7.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
PaulieVanZant
11-03-2021, 01:05 PM
Target: Stahlbestie
Distance: 2.4432% / 2.44322263
39.5 Germanic
38.2 South_Slavic
19.0 Celtic
1.8 Judaean
0.9 Baltic
0.6 East_Asian


Target: Stahlbestie
Distance: 2.7247% / 2.72468222 | R3P
42.6 South_Slavic
36.4 Germanic
21.0 Celtic
Rĉdwald
11-03-2021, 01:41 PM
Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 448.9845% / 4.48984502 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.2 Celtic
30.4 Germanic
15.4 South_Slavic
1.0 Mesopotamian


Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 454.0877% / 4.54087743 | ADC: 0.5x RC
53.6 Celtic
29.8 Germanic
16.6 South_Slavic
Gergő Marosvári
11-03-2021, 02:24 PM
Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.9794% / 2.97944901
31.7 Baltic
24.1 South_Slavic
22.4 Celtic
13.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.7 Armenian_Kingdom
1.6 Mesopotamian
1.0 Proto_Turkic
0.2 East_Asian
Voskos
11-03-2021, 02:40 PM
My slavic gets detected best (matching the expected for my region) at 1x.

Target: voskos
Distance: 502.7511% / 5.02751146 | ADC: 1x RC
56.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
22.0 South_Slavic
21.2 Mesopotamian
cakmir7y
11-03-2021, 03:14 PM
Very good distance!

Target: cakmir7y(czech)
Distance: 0.8921% / 0.89207525
60.8 South_Slavic
18.6 Celtic
7.9 Judaean
5.8 Germanic
4.4 Baltic
2.5 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian



This one looks reasonable too

Target: cakmir7y(czech)
Distance: 1.4364% / 1.43640557 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 East_Slavic
24.8 South_Slavic
12.2 Germanic
11.8 Celtic
4.6 Pharaonic


Ultimate central european in action

Target: cakmir7y(czech)
Distance: 3.5835% / 3.58345575 | ADC: 0.5x RC
83.4 South_Slavic
16.6 Celtic



Distance to: cakmir7y(czech)
6.37104387 South_Slavic:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
11.17183065 East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _
12.18080047 South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_
26.17655822 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
26.72273751 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
41.08702228 Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp
53.24860655 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_
64.05673657 Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp
65.16511874 Pharaonic:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp
67.94193771 Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp
69.00839369 Proto_Turkic:Selkup
74.09789808 Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_
88.96031643 East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak
89.21706395 East_Asian:Japanese
100.74953648 West_African:Bantu_S.W.
Gergő Marosvári
11-03-2021, 05:35 PM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.5336% / 2.53362358 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.4 South_Slavic
16.3 Mesopotamian
14.1 Judaean
11.8 Proto_Turkic
7.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian

It looks perfect for you!
noricum
11-03-2021, 07:02 PM
Target: Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 2.7287% / 2.72873646
38.0 Celtic
22.0 Baltic
20.7 South_Slavic
10.0 Judaean
9.3 Germanic

Target: noricum_halfbro(austrian)
Distance: 1.2863% / 1.28632646
42.3 Baltic
32.8 Celtic
9.5 South_Slavic
7.3 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
5.4 Judaean
2.7 Mesopotamian

Target: noricum_inlaw(austrian)
Distance: 1.7810% / 1.78095984
62.9 Celtic
15.8 East_Slavic
14.4 Armenian_Kingdom
6.3 Baltic
0.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
Thracian
11-03-2021, 08:25 PM
Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.1853% / 2.18526571
26.3 South_Slavic
24.0 Celtic
22.0 Mesopotamian
20.6 Judaean
4.5 Proto_Turkic
2.6 Armenian_Kingdom
bained
11-03-2021, 10:31 PM
Target: BaiNed
Distance: 2.9007% / 2.90070891
38.3 South_Slavic
25.9 Celtic
20.9 Judaean
12.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
2.5 Armenian_Kingdom
Ion Basescul
11-03-2021, 10:44 PM
My only nitpicking is that the average of the references from Hungary that you call South Slavic look like a slightly more Northern reference than East Slavic, and with a West Slavic shift. I would actually call it West Slavic.

Target: IonBasescul
Distance: 1.0651% / 1.06506772
28.7 South_Slavic
22.6 Celtic
15.1 East_Slavic
9.5 Armenian_Kingdom
8.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
6.8 Baltic
5.0 Judaean
2.5 East_Asian
1.8 Proto_Turkic

seems like an overfit

To summarise:
50.6% Balto-Slavic Peasant
22.6% Celtic Plague Carrier
9.5% Armenian Bull
8% Greek God
5% Merchant
2.5% Samurai
1.8% Eskimo Wonder
Lemminkäinen
11-03-2021, 10:54 PM
Target: Mm
Distance: 3.6139% / 3.61390351
40.3 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
34.7 Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp
14.2 South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_
5.7 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
4.1 Proto_Turkic:Selkup
1.0 East_Asian:Japanese
Ion Basescul
11-03-2021, 11:11 PM
Never understood why my Slavic keeps getting mistaken as Celtic/Germanic etc. It's either the Eurogenes calc being fucked up or my references being shitty.

It's a common issue with K13 for people who have partial Slavic admix. The Northern part can pull more to the West than expected, rather than being more concentrated in the East. On K36 it would likely disappear for you.
J. Ketch
11-04-2021, 12:41 AM
Target: Creoda
Distance: 553.1083% / 5.53108291
73.6 Germanic
26.4 Celtic
Lemminkäinen
11-04-2021, 09:00 AM
It's a common issue with K13 for people who have partial Slavic admix. The Northern part can pull more to the West than expected, rather than being more concentrated in the East. On K36 it would likely disappear for you.

I get Central European and Italian in K36 instead of Slavic in K13.
Ion Basescul
11-04-2021, 09:44 AM
I get Central European and Italian in K36 instead of Slavic in K13.
Should have gone easier on that pasta on the day before spitting in the tube.
paradox
11-04-2021, 01:37 PM
Target: K13
Distance: 1.9365% / 1.93648028
44.3 South_Slavic
24.3 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
19.6 Judaean
8.9 Armenian_Kingdom
2.7 Baltic
0.2 Proto_Turkic

Target: K13
Distance: 2.0372% / 2.03718881 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.8 South_Slavic
21.5 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
21.4 Judaean
8.3 Armenian_Kingdom
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Target: Fatherk13
Distance: 1.5000% / 1.50002446
29.1 Celtic
25.5 South_Slavic
23.0 Judaean
16.0 East_Slavic
6.0 Armenian_Kingdom
0.4 Proto_Turkic

Target: Fatherk13
Distance: 1.6779% / 1.67791448 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.1 South_Slavic
24.5 Celtic
21.2 Judaean
4.2 Armenian_Kingdom
4.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
mitalit
11-04-2021, 01:45 PM
Target: Spaniard2.0
Distance: 3.9367% / 3.93668546
79.2 Celtic
10.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
6.6 Armenian_Kingdom
3.0 Pharaonic
0.6 East_Asian
0.4 East_African
J.S.
11-04-2021, 01:52 PM
Target: J.S.
Distance: 3.4117% / 3.41167526
95.5 Celtic
3.7 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
0.8 Pharaonic
Hulu
11-04-2021, 01:58 PM
Target: Mm
Distance: 3.6139% / 3.61390351
40.3 Germanic:NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1476_ybp
34.7 Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp
14.2 South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_
5.7 Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp
4.1 Proto_Turkic:Selkup
1.0 East_Asian:Japanese

Lemmi get south slavic and we get east slavic. I don't understand.
Hulu
11-04-2021, 02:00 PM
My only nitpicking is that the average of the references from Hungary that you call South Slavic look like a slightly more Northern reference than East Slavic, and with a West Slavic shift. I would actually call it West Slavic.



Ok now makes sense.
Lemminkäinen
11-04-2021, 02:18 PM
Lemmi get south slavic and we get east slavic. I don't understand.

It is Finnish with pasta & pizza.
Voskos
11-04-2021, 04:03 PM
Target: Greek_North_Aegean
Distance: 163.1374% / 1.63137427
33.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
23.6 Judaean
17.2 Armenian_Kingdom
16.2 Celtic
9.6 South_Slavic

Target: Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
Distance: 100.1005% / 1.00100497
34.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
21.6 Celtic
15.2 Armenian_Kingdom
12.6 East_Slavic
11.0 South_Slavic
5.2 Pharaonic
0.4 East_African

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Distance: 208.6904% / 2.08690447
41.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
37.4 South_Slavic
8.8 Armenian_Kingdom
7.0 Celtic
5.4 Judaean

Target: Greek_Athens
Distance: 159.1220% / 1.59121973
35.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
21.6 South_Slavic
15.8 Celtic
14.2 Judaean
12.8 Armenian_Kingdom
0.2 East_Asian
Voskos
11-04-2021, 04:04 PM
Target: Italian_Calabria
Distance: 121.1705% / 1.21170489
30.6 Judaean
27.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
26.2 Celtic
15.0 Armenian_Kingdom
0.4 East_Asian
Voskos
11-04-2021, 04:06 PM
Target: Italian_Sicily
Distance: 86.3799% / 0.86379860
29.8 Celtic
29.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
23.0 Judaean
13.4 Armenian_Kingdom
2.2 South_Slavic
0.8 East_African
0.4 East_Asian
0.4 Mesopotamian
0.2 West_African
Septimius Severus
11-04-2021, 05:27 PM
Target: severus
Distance: 2.1042% / 2.10417994
72.5 Moroccan
14.7 Italian_Sardinia
6.9 French_Basque
3.9 Yoruban
1.0 Somali
0.8 Dai
0.2 Papuan
Voskos
11-04-2021, 08:04 PM
Target: Greek_Cypriot
Distance: 132.6600% / 1.32660035
43.2 Judaean
31.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
19.2 Armenian_Kingdom
3.4 South_Slavic
2.2 Celtic
0.2 West_African
Hulu
11-04-2021, 08:32 PM
Maybe Judean should be replaced with something else for these southerns. Surprised I didn't get any.
Voskos
11-05-2021, 01:05 AM
Target: R131_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
Distance: 156.6384% / 1.56638433
34.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
29.4 Celtic
23.4 Judaean
11.8 Armenian_Kingdom
0.8 East_Asian

Target: R1021_Lazio_Frosinone_Iron_Age_Latini
Distance: 705.6767% / 7.05676695
63.2 Celtic
36.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian

Target: R437b_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Republic
Distance: 224.0630% / 2.24062983
57.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
25.0 Celtic
17.6 Armenian_Kingdom

Target: R473_Civitavecchia_Etruscan._Iron_Age
Distance: 592.0845% / 5.92084453
60.0 Celtic
40.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian

Target: R851_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini
Distance: 910.8317% / 9.10831653
65.6 Celtic
34.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian

Target: R130_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
Distance: 354.2043% / 3.54204271
38.0 Judaean
32.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
20.0 Armenian_Kingdom
8.8 Celtic
0.4 Mesopotamian

Target: R126_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
Distance: 244.5730% / 2.44573030
47.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
19.0 Judaean
17.8 Armenian_Kingdom
11.8 Mesopotamian
2.4 Pharaonic
1.2 Celtic
0.6 East_Asian
0.2 West_African

Target: R1224_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
Distance: 466.7444% / 4.66744445
58.4 Celtic
17.0 Germanic
13.2 Judaean
9.4 South_Slavic
2.0 Armenian_Kingdom

Target: R1283_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
Distance: 240.6232% / 2.40623212
36.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
36.0 Celtic
22.4 Judaean
4.4 East_Slavic
0.4 Pharaonic
Voskos
11-05-2021, 02:36 PM
Using a Jordanian (named it ''semitic'') instead of a Judaean source gives results that worsen the fit for Greeks and related peoples:

Target: Italian_Calabria
Distance: 308.1910% / 3.08190974
39.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
23.0 Celtic
19.2 Armenian_Kingdom
15.8 Semitic
3.0 Pharaonic

Target: Greek_Western-Thrace
Distance: 346.2603% / 3.46260339
46.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
22.4 Celtic
17.6 South_Slavic
12.8 Armenian_Kingdom
0.8 East_Asian

Target: Greek_West_Macedonia
Distance: 181.3011% / 1.81301056
35.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
27.6 South_Slavic
17.2 Celtic
14.2 Armenian_Kingdom
5.6 Semitic

Target: Greek_West
Distance: 361.1945% / 3.61194465
46.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
33.2 South_Slavic
10.6 Armenian_Kingdom
7.8 Celtic
2.0 Semitic

Target: Greek_Trabzon
Distance: 313.8374% / 3.13837414
60.2 Armenian_Kingdom
21.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
16.2 Semitic
2.6 East_Slavic

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 219.9596% / 2.19959614
38.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
32.4 South_Slavic
14.0 Celtic
9.2 Armenian_Kingdom
5.8 Semitic

Target: Greek_Symi_Island
Distance: 446.2588% / 4.46258825
46.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
21.2 Armenian_Kingdom
15.6 Celtic
14.4 Semitic
2.0 Pharaonic
0.6 East_Asian

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 255.9422% / 2.55942187
41.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
30.8 South_Slavic
11.8 Armenian_Kingdom
9.6 Celtic
6.4 Semitic

Target: Greek_Northern-Thrace
Distance: 475.5356% / 4.75535607
44.4 South_Slavic
42.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
8.6 Armenian_Kingdom
4.0 Baltic
0.2 Proto_Turkic

Target: Greek_Northeast
Distance: 175.2201% / 1.75220113
36.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
31.6 South_Slavic
13.6 Celtic
12.8 Armenian_Kingdom
5.2 Semitic

Target: Greek_North_Aegean
Distance: 302.5315% / 3.02531524
44.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
20.0 Armenian_Kingdom
12.8 Semitic
12.4 Celtic
10.6 South_Slavic

Target: Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
Distance: 184.0803% / 1.84080330
36.2 South_Slavic
35.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
20.2 Armenian_Kingdom
6.8 Semitic
0.6 Celtic
0.4 Baltic
0.2 Proto_Turkic

Target: Greek_Istanbul
Distance: 359.2387% / 3.59238716
29.6 South_Slavic
26.2 Armenian_Kingdom
19.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
13.2 Celtic
11.8 Semitic

Target: Greek_Ionia
Distance: 275.8833% / 2.75883281
42.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
19.2 South_Slavic
17.2 Armenian_Kingdom
11.2 Celtic
10.0 Semitic
0.2 East_Asian

Target: Greek_Eastern-Thrace
Distance: 290.3742% / 2.90374211
45.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
33.8 South_Slavic
10.0 Armenian_Kingdom
6.2 Semitic
3.4 East_Slavic
1.2 Baltic
0.2 Proto_Turkic

Target: Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
Distance: 99.1607% / 0.99160702
35.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
20.6 Celtic
16.0 South_Slavic
14.8 Armenian_Kingdom
8.0 East_Slavic
4.6 Pharaonic
0.4 East_African
0.2 East_Asian

Target: Greek_Dodecanese
Distance: 270.7134% / 2.70713405
41.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
23.4 Armenian_Kingdom
16.6 Semitic
11.4 Celtic
7.0 South_Slavic
0.2 East_Asian

Target: Greek_Cypriot
Distance: 399.6429% / 3.99642887
46.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
25.8 Semitic
25.2 Armenian_Kingdom
1.8 South_Slavic
0.8 Pharaonic

Target: Greek_Cyclades
Distance: 238.3476% / 2.38347644
37.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
20.4 Celtic
18.2 Armenian_Kingdom
12.2 South_Slavic
11.2 Semitic
0.6 East_Asian

Target: Greek_Crete
Distance: 303.0051% / 3.03005103
43.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
19.8 Armenian_Kingdom
17.4 South_Slavic
12.4 Semitic
5.6 Celtic
1.0 Pharaonic

Target: Greek_Chios
Distance: 234.3030% / 2.34302969
43.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
26.0 Armenian_Kingdom
12.6 Semitic
9.2 Celtic
8.4 South_Slavic
0.4 East_Asian

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Distance: 230.6274% / 2.30627376
46.8 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
38.2 South_Slavic
9.4 Armenian_Kingdom
4.8 Celtic
0.8 Semitic

Target: Greek_Central
Distance: 214.2036% / 2.14203550
40.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
24.8 South_Slavic
15.2 Armenian_Kingdom
11.8 Celtic
7.6 Semitic

Target: Greek_Caucasus
Distance: 319.1564% / 3.19156413
63.2 Armenian_Kingdom
17.0 Semitic
16.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
1.8 East_Slavic
0.8 Pharaonic
0.4 Mesopotamian
0.2 Proto_Turkic

Target: Greek_Cappadocian
Distance: 353.1217% / 3.53121668
40.4 Armenian_Kingdom
37.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
15.6 Semitic
6.0 South_Slavic
0.2 Celtic
0.2 Proto_Turkic

Target: Greek_Athens
Distance: 239.0200% / 2.39019962
43.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
22.6 South_Slavic
14.4 Armenian_Kingdom
12.6 Celtic
6.6 Semitic
0.2 East_Asian
Voskos
11-05-2021, 02:45 PM
So for now I stick to Judaean as a potential Levantine source.
alexmegas777
11-06-2021, 11:43 AM
Target: alexmegas(Romanian)
Distance: 206.0258% / 2.06025756 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Celtic
30.4 South_Slavic
17.2 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
9.8 Armenian_Kingdom
1.8 Mesopotamian
Voskos
11-14-2021, 09:44 AM
With updated references:
Target: voskos
Distance: 89.1244% / 0.89124376
29.0 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
17.6 Middle_Eastern_Roman_found_in_England
16.2 Armenian_Kingdom
9.6 Celtic
8.8 Proto-Slavic
7.0 Roman_Iron_Age
6.0 Judaean
4.4 East_Slavic
1.2 Baltic
0.2 Germanic
Voskos
11-14-2021, 09:49 AM
Here's the new sources for anyone interested:



Roman_Iron_Age:R1021_Lazio_Frosinone_Iron_Age_Lati ni,37.21,9.04,30.58,2.18,18.82,1.44,0.00,0.04,0.00 ,0.00,0.70,0.00,0.00
Middle_Eastern_Roman_Gladiator_England:3DT26_Engla nd_Roman_MiddleEast.SG_1750_ybp,0.00,0.00,13.92,8. 89,49.20,21.37,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.23,6.39,0.00
Proto-Slavic:R1aM4170I6561_Ukraine_3500_BC,39.39,39.98,1 .16,15.56,0.00,0.00,2.93,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.70,0.00, 0.00
South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_,30.33,47.37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1. 56,0.89,0.00,0.42,0.00
East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _,25.54,45.76,13.11,4.08,6.15,0.53,0.00,0.00,2.60, 1.08,0.58,0.53,0.00
Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp,48. 08,19.16,23.33,0.01,6.63,1.07,0.10,0.00,0.00,0.68, 0.00,0.24,0.69
Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_,10.52,2.73,31.92,8.82,36.83,8.03,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.86,0.00,0.30
Germanic:RISE174_Sweden_IA.SG_1431_ybp,48.47,30.87 ,7.80,5.77,0.58,0.36,2.19,0.00,1.18,1.06,0.56,0.17 ,1.00
Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_,0.55,0.50,12.28,56.55,30.13 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Judaean:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp,1.13,0.0 0,18.89,4.31,46.89,21.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 7.57,0.00
West_African:Bantu_S.W.,0.07,0.06,0.08,0.07,0.10,0 .13,0.08,0.07,0.22,0.07,0.33,13.01,85.70
East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.03,0.03,0.02,0.02,0.02,61.65,38.24
Urals:Selkup,1.71,25.06,0.00,3.81,0.00,0.00,2.68,0 .95,59.32,6.05,0.40,0.00,0.02
East_Asian:Japanese,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.01, 0.22,65.93,31.72,0.83,0.62,0.32,0.30
Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp,1.28,2.23,9.2 4,43.58,26.69,8.18,8.09,0.08,0.00,0.51,0.05,0.00,0 .06
Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp,18.68,72.57 ,1.20,0.35,0.00,0.24,3.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.98,0.23 ,0.99
Iberian:I3758_Celtiberian_U_,46.65,15.95,26.60,0.0 0,6.76,1.29,0.00,0.09,0.13,0.81,0.00,0.35,1.38
Turkic:DA23_Kazakhstan_Kipchak2.SG_852_ybp,7.18,16 .09,0.7 2,12.44,0.00,0.00,5.24,14.38,40.88,2.79,0.28,0.00, 0.00


Edit 1: Selkup becomes Uralic
Edit 2: Added DA23 as Turkic
Edit 3:Replaced Roman reference with Frosinone
Edit 4: removed Israel_MLBA from the references, labelled Pharaonic as Judaean.
Dušan
11-14-2021, 10:41 AM
Here's the new sources for anyone interested:



Roman_Iron_Age:R1016_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini,35 .91,7.69,33.00,1.06,20.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.52 ,0.00,0.00,0.00
Middle_Eastern_Roman_Gladiator_England:3DT26_Engla nd_Roman_MiddleEast.SG_1750_ybp,0.00,0.00,13.92,8. 89,49.20,21.37,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.23,6.39,0.00
Proto-Slavic:R1aM4170I6561_Ukraine_3500_BC,39.39,39.98,1 .16,15.56,0.00,0.00,2.93,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.70,0.00, 0.00
South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_,30.33,47.37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1. 56,0.89,0.00,0.42,0.00
East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _,25.54,45.76,13.11,4.08,6.15,0.53,0.00,0.00,2.60, 1.08,0.58,0.53,0.00
Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp,48. 08,19.16,23.33,0.01,6.63,1.07,0.10,0.00,0.00,0.68, 0.00,0.24,0.69
Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_,10.52,2.73,31.92,8.82,36.83,8.03,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.86,0.00,0.30
Germanic:RISE174_Sweden_IA.SG_1431_ybp,48.47,30.87 ,7.80,5.77,0.58,0.36,2.19,0.00,1.18,1.06,0.56,0.17 ,1.00
Pharaonic:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp,1.13,0 .00,18.89,4.31,46.89,21.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,7.57,0.00
Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_,0.55,0.50,12.28,56.55,30.13 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp,0.00,0.00,15.19 ,14.95,52.52,14.97,0.00,0.00,0.16,0.59,0.00,1.61,0 .00
West_African:Bantu_S.W.,0.07,0.06,0.08,0.07,0.10,0 .13,0.08,0.07,0.22,0.07,0.33,13.01,85.70
East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.03,0.03,0.02,0.02,0.02,61.65,38.24
Proto_Turkic:Selkup,1.71,25.06,0.00,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,2.68,0.95,59.32,6.05,0.40,0.00,0.02
East_Asian:Japanese,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.01, 0.22,65.93,31.72,0.83,0.62,0.32,0.30
Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp,1.28,2.23,9.2 4,43.58,26.69,8.18,8.09,0.08,0.00,0.51,0.05,0.00,0 .06
Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp,18.68,72.57 ,1.20,0.35,0.00,0.24,3.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.98,0.23 ,0.99
Iberian:I3758_Celtiberian_U_,46.65,15.95,26.60,0.0 0,6.76,1.29,0.00,0.09,0.13,0.81,0.00,0.35,1.38



Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.8852% / 1.88521079
52.2 East_Slavic
17.1 Roman_Iron_Age
11.6 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
10.9 Baltic
7.9 Armenian_Kingdom
0.3 Proto_Turkic
Dušan
11-14-2021, 11:02 AM
Here's the new sources for anyone interested:



Roman_Iron_Age:R1016_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini,35 .91,7.69,33.00,1.06,20.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.52 ,0.00,0.00,0.00
Middle_Eastern_Roman_Gladiator_England:3DT26_Engla nd_Roman_MiddleEast.SG_1750_ybp,0.00,0.00,13.92,8. 89,49.20,21.37,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.23,6.39,0.00
Proto-Slavic:R1aM4170I6561_Ukraine_3500_BC,39.39,39.98,1 .16,15.56,0.00,0.00,2.93,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.70,0.00, 0.00
South_Slavic:AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640 _AD_,30.33,47.37,11.04,4.58,2.63,0.68,0.49,0.00,1. 56,0.89,0.00,0.42,0.00
East_Slavic:Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a _,25.54,45.76,13.11,4.08,6.15,0.53,0.00,0.00,2.60, 1.08,0.58,0.53,0.00
Celtic:DA111_Czech_HallstattBylany.SG_2702_ybp,48. 08,19.16,23.33,0.01,6.63,1.07,0.10,0.00,0.00,0.68, 0.00,0.24,0.69
Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian:I9010_Mycenaean_135 1_bc_,10.52,2.73,31.92,8.82,36.83,8.03,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.86,0.00,0.30
Germanic:RISE174_Sweden_IA.SG_1431_ybp,48.47,30.87 ,7.80,5.77,0.58,0.36,2.19,0.00,1.18,1.06,0.56,0.17 ,1.00
Pharaonic:JK2134_Egypt_New_Kingdom_3250_ybp,1.13,0 .00,18.89,4.31,46.89,21.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,7.57,0.00
Armenian_Kingdom:ANCIENT_ARM002_Kaps_Kura_Araxes_c ulture_5148_years_old_,0.55,0.50,12.28,56.55,30.13 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Judaean:I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp,0.00,0.00,15.19 ,14.95,52.52,14.97,0.00,0.00,0.16,0.59,0.00,1.61,0 .00
West_African:Bantu_S.W.,0.07,0.06,0.08,0.07,0.10,0 .13,0.08,0.07,0.22,0.07,0.33,13.01,85.70
East_African:Ethiopian_Anuak,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.03,0.03,0.02,0.02,0.02,61.65,38.24
Proto_Turkic:Selkup,1.71,25.06,0.00,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,2.68,0.95,59.32,6.05,0.40,0.00,0.02
East_Asian:Japanese,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.01, 0.22,65.93,31.72,0.83,0.62,0.32,0.30
Mesopotamian:F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp,1.28,2.23,9.2 4,43.58,26.69,8.18,8.09,0.08,0.00,0.51,0.05,0.00,0 .06
Baltic:Kivutkalns209_Latvia_BA_318_ybp,18.68,72.57 ,1.20,0.35,0.00,0.24,3.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.98,0.23 ,0.99
Iberian:I3758_Celtiberian_U_,46.65,15.95,26.60,0.0 0,6.76,1.29,0.00,0.09,0.13,0.81,0.00,0.35,1.38


I think this is very good version of ancient K13.

Just one tiny edit, Selkups are not Turkic people, but Uralic.


Maybe this is good proto-Turkic reference:
DA23_Kazakhstan_Kipchak2.SG_852_ybp,7.18,16.09,0.7 2,12.44,0.00,0.00,5.24,14.38,40.88,2.79,0.28,0.00, 0.00
Voskos
11-14-2021, 11:43 AM
I think this is very good version of ancient K13.

Just one tiny edit, Selkups are not Turkic people, but Uralic.


Maybe this is good proto-Turkic reference:
DA23_Kazakhstan_Kipchak2.SG_852_ybp,7.18,16.09,0.7 2,12.44,0.00,0.00,5.24,14.38,40.88,2.79,0.28,0.00, 0.00

thanks man, updated!
Voskos
11-14-2021, 12:20 PM
Updated result taking into account Dusan's suggestion and after some other tweaks:

Target: voskos
Distance: 87.9039% / 0.87903852
29.4 Hellenic_and_Southern_Illyrian
21.6 Middle_Eastern_Roman_Gladiator_England
16.6 Roman_Iron_Age
16.2 Armenian_Kingdom
10.4 Proto-Slavic
2.6 Baltic
1.6 East_Slavic
1.6 Germanic
17571imre
11-14-2021, 09:17 PM
Target: Imre
Distance: 1.6581% / 1.65806155
47.0 Roman_Iron_Age
16.8 Proto-Slavic
14.8 Baltic
5.6 East_Slavic
5.2 Germanic
4.8 Armenian_Kingdom
4.7 Middle_Eastern_Roman_Gladiator_England
1.1 Urals