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Token
11-09-2021, 10:55 AM
https://alchetron.com/cdn/muhammad-al-yaqoubi-7a45182c-1034-435d-bdf1-9b9cfd78faf-resize-750.jpeg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Shaykh_Muhammad_al-Yaqoubi.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGcLAwcXUAAyNsv.jpg

https://wntv.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/spiritual-gathering-with-al-shaykh-syed-muhammad-abul-huda-al-yaqoubi-at-uk-20.jpg

Tongio
11-09-2021, 11:03 AM
Proto nordic + armenoid

placebo
11-09-2021, 11:06 AM
did you get permission from teutone before posting his pics?

reboun
11-09-2021, 12:06 PM
Nordid + Armenoid

Donhueas
11-09-2021, 12:39 PM
Canarid + armenoid (?).

Immanenz
11-09-2021, 12:40 PM
There is no Armenoid, more like Arabo-Nordid

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe163.jpg

Token
11-09-2021, 12:56 PM
There is no Armenoid, more like Arabo-Nordid

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe163.jpg

No need to go inventing new types, Coon classified the man in your picture as Mediterranean. Al-Yaqoubi is planoccipital, there is clearly some Armenoid in there.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F_13CSRxlJo/maxresdefault.jpg

Immanenz
11-09-2021, 01:02 PM
No need to go inventing new types, Coon classified the man in your picture as Mediterranean. Al-Yaqoubi is planoccipital, there is clearly some Armenoid in there.



well, you posted him because he is blonde, fact is there are a lot of Arabs with his facial characteristics but are unintersting for anthrofurms. No reason to call anybody with a flattend occiput Armenoid either, more like a simple dinaricization.

Token
11-09-2021, 01:31 PM
well, you posted him because he is blonde, fact is there are a lot of Arabs with his facial characteristics but are unintersting for anthrofurms. No reason to call anybody with a flattend occiput Armenoid either, more like a simple dinaricization

Planoccipitalism don't pop up magically, it implies admixture from some planoccipital type (in his case more than likely Armenoid). Dinaricization in the sense you're using sounds a lot like 'borealization', the latter being a term that some people invented to explain away clearly mongoloid-admixed individuals in eastern and northern Europe.

Immanenz
11-09-2021, 01:38 PM
Planoccipitalism don't pop up magically, it implies admixture from some planoccipital type (in his case more than likely Armenoid). Dinaricization in the sense you're using sounds a lot like 'borealization', the latter being a term that some people invented to explain away clearly mongoloid-admixed individuals in eastern and northern Europe.

he has no real Armenoid features, its still bias to some degree(outside of the flattenign of the occiutal area which is hard to see from the pics). People are not saying Armenoid because of the flattening of his occiput, you are overestimating the level of skills here. Sid Haig was classified as Borreby, not by the same members, but it jsut shows how much alien something is like Armenoid for them (even for a "Turk").

btw there was a thread already about him and its speculated that he has Bosnian ancestry. I have no clue if thats correct. He looks Matthias Sammer mixed with Arab, thats all i can say.

Hektor12
11-09-2021, 01:46 PM
He looks Matthias Sammer mixed with Arab, thats all i can say.

He looks rather Muammar Gaddafi mixed with something north caucasian, like Ramzan Kadyrov to my eyes. There was a caucasian immigration to levant in XIX. century after Russian offensive, which could be background of this.

Token
11-09-2021, 01:53 PM
he has no real Armenoid features, its still bias to some degree. People are not saying Armenoid because of the flattening of his occiput, you are overestimating the level of skills here. Sid Haug was classified as Borreby, not by the same members, but it jsut shows how much alien something is like Armenoid for them (even for a "Turk").

btw there was a thread already about him and its speculated that he has Bosnian ancestry. I have no clue if thats correct. He looks Matthias Sammer mixed with Arab, thats all i can say.
He does, planoccipitalism is neither a Nordic nor a Mediterranean trait and it does not pop up magically, it is a characteristic Armenoid trait. In your first post you've compared him to an extremely curvoccipital Mediterranean besides inventing a brand new type (Arabo-Nordid, lol) out of the blue instead of writing the obvious that everyone before you wrote. Actually i'm wondering if you are not overestimating your own skills.

Immanenz
11-09-2021, 02:06 PM
He does, planoccipitalism is neither a Nordic nor a Mediterranean trait and it does not pop up magically, it is a characteristic Armenoid trait. In your first post you've compared him to an extremely curvoccipital Mediterranean besides inventing a brand new type (Arabo-Nordid, lol) out of the blue instead of writing the obvious that everyone before you wrote. Actually i'm wondering if you are not overestimating your skills.

Possibly, however there is also the chapter dinaricized Arabic forms.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe431.jpg

I admit i could not see the occiputal area (and i admit in general i will make mistakes), but i clearly see he does not look Armenoid from the frontal area (dinaricized IranoAfgan by Coon)- you can bump your "American Jew" thread and see what happens. People are just saying that for the slight nasal convexity, not because they are headshape masters.

Tongio
11-09-2021, 02:49 PM
Possibly, however there is also the chapter dinaricized Arabic forms.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe431.jpg

I admit i could not see the occiputal area (and i admit in general i will make mistakes), but i clearly see he does not look Armenoid from the frontal area (dinaricized IranoAfgan by Coon)- you can bump your "American Jew" thread and see what happens. People are just saying that for the slight nasal convexity, not because they are headshape masters.

I said it for the head shape actually mr. specialist ,the nose is also armenoid influenced but is almost negligible, he does not have that much armenoid traits but they are there, and is not dinarid because these have more robust features and inverted triangle face shape along with a sloping forehead all these traits are lacking.

Token
11-09-2021, 02:52 PM
Possibly, however there is also the chapter dinaricized Arabic forms.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe431.jpg

I admit i could not see the occiputal area (and i admit in general i will make mistakes), but i clearly see he does not look Armenoid from the frontal area (dinaricized IranoAfgan by Coon)- you can bump your "American Jew" thread and see what happens. People are just saying that for the slight nasal convexity, not because they are headshape masters.
So do i, never said otherwise. He is clearly mostly Nordic, but as you know Nordics don't have brachycephalic and planoccipital heads.

Token
11-09-2021, 02:59 PM
... you can bump your "American Jew" thread and see what happens. People are just saying that for the slight nasal convexity, not because they are headshape masters.
I'm almost sure you'd not classify him correctly as well if you didn't know the plate. You'd probably say something like Orientalo-Atlantid + Gorid or some shit like that.

Immanenz
11-09-2021, 03:27 PM
I said it for the head shape actually mr. specialist ,the nose is also armenoid influenced but is almost negligible, he does not have that much armenoid traits but they are there, and is not dinarid because these have more robust features and inverted triangle face shape along with a sloping forehead all these traits are lacking.

well, yeah but its relatively irrelevant for Norics and generally overrated for the basic principal

https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/14/467663/9810586/No.-1148--Dinaric_955.jpg
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/hooton/dinaric5.jpg

StonyArabia
11-09-2021, 03:36 PM
He is from Morocco originally. I doubt he has Bosnian ancestry. He probably has Morisco. Many Moriscos migrated to North Africa and Levant as well Anatolia.

Norb
11-09-2021, 03:41 PM
not Norbs 'nordic'..

Tongio
11-09-2021, 03:45 PM
well, yeah but its relatively irrelevant for Norics and generally overrated for the basic principal

https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/14/467663/9810586/No.-1148--Dinaric_955.jpg
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/hooton/dinaric5.jpg

Interesting but to me these two seem to have some strong non dinaric component the first one being Hallstat and the second one mediterranean.

Kalkarum
01-11-2022, 10:20 AM
Coon's UP plate 10, with nordoid med. Michael Fassbender is the same.


Planoccipitalism don't pop up magically, it implies admixture from some planoccipital type (in his case more than likely Armenoid). Dinaricization in the sense you're using sounds a lot like 'borealization', the latter being a term that some people invented to explain away clearly mongoloid-admixed individuals in eastern and northern Europe.

Head shape don't tell much about a phenotype, I've literally seen a dolichocephalic kid(turbo gracile med looking) with very brachy parents, it doesn't tell much.. Father had plannooccipital skull dinarid like mom rounded alpine look, he turned out very dolichocephalic.

Classifying someone only by cranial vault is quite retarded, that is not OVERALL, or AVERAGE, but just a single value, you have to take other variables into account when classifying, a dinarid like reduced brunn could actually have mesocephalic sons without mixing with another dolichocephalic type. It's just the process of unreduction. Reverse, process of reduction, as you know it.