Scottish admixture in Poles

[Polak]

Is it possible to see the Scottish admixture in Poles from when they settled the Commonwealth in the 16-18th centuries? And if so how would it show up on calculators? I’m asking because a large part of my family comes from a region that was full of Scots and I always get a small percent British isles on calculators.

[JamesBond007]

It sounds like one of those guestimated rough average math questions one can do in ones' head or the back of a napkin or something but you offered no demographic populations and I don't care enough to research it for you. :P

[Polak]

It sounds like one of those guestimated rough average math questions one can do in ones' head or the back of a napkin or something but you offered no demographic populations and I don't care enough to research it for you. :P

There's no need to be condescending, if you don't care then simply don't reply, I'm not going to lose sleep over it :picard2:

[Polak]

Using Dodecad K12b I get this:

Mixed Mode:
1 83.98% Belorussian + 16.02% French_Basque @ 2.512
2 81.64% Belorussian + 18.36% Pais_Vasco_1KG @ 2.599
3 72.27% Lithuanian_D + 27.73% Valencia_1KG @ 2.889
4 80.08% Polish_D + 19.92% British_Isles_D @ 2.947
5 91.80% Polish_D + 8.20% French_Basque @ 2.955
6 80.86% Polish_D + 19.14% Kent_1KG @ 2.962
7 80.08% Polish_D + 19.92% CEU30 @ 2.969
8 80.08% Polish_D + 19.92% English_D @ 2.981
9 82.42% Polish_D + 17.58% Cornwall_1KG @ 2.987
10 90.23% Polish_D + 9.77% Pais_Vasco_1KG @ 2.996

and this:

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Mixed_Slav_D + 25% British_Isles_D @ 2.988
2 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Ukranians_Y + 25% British_Isles_D @ 3.093
3 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Mixed_Slav_D + 25% CEU30 @ 3.107
4 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Mixed_Slav_D + 25% Dutch_D @ 3.128
5 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Mixed_Slav_D + 25% English_D @ 3.133
6 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Mixed_Slav_D + 25% Kent_1KG @ 3.139
7 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Dutch_D @ 3.174
8 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Hungarians + 25% Norwegian_D @ 3.259
9 25% Lithuanian_D + 25% Lithuanian_D + 25% Lithuanian_D + 25% Valencia_1KG @ 3.291
10 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Polish_D + 25% Mixed_Germanic_D @ 3.301

Using Eurogenes EUTest I get:

Mixed Mode:
1 88.67% Belorussian + 11.33% French_Basque @ 4.167
2 84.77% Northwest_Russian + 15.23% French_Basque @ 4.447
3 77.73% Northwest_Russian + 22.27% Cornish @ 4.672
4 80.08% Northwest_Russian + 19.92% French @ 4.713
5 82.42% Northwest_Russian + 17.58% Spanish @ 4.743
6 70.70% Northwest_Russian + 29.30% Austrian @ 4.797
7 65.23% Estonian + 34.77% Slovenian_1 @ 4.872
8 79.30% Estonian + 20.70% Romanian @ 4.882
9 87.89% Belorussian + 12.11% Spanish @ 4.887
10 78.52% Northwest_Russian + 21.48% Scottish @ 4.932

and:

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Cornish @ 4.749
2 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Slovenian_1 @ 4.861
3 25% Latvian_1 + 25% Latvian_1 + 25% North_Russian + 25% French @ 4.905
4 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Austrian @ 4.925
5 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Austrian @ 4.935
6 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% West_&_Central_German @ 4.938
7 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Hungarian @ 4.946
8 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian + 25% Slovenian_1 @ 4.960
9 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Northwest_Russian + 25% Romanian @ 4.999
10 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Romanian @ 5.034

Using Eurogenes K13 (Extended oracle) I get:

Mixed Mode:
1 91.80% Belorussian + 8.20% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.071
2 91.80% Belorussian + 8.20% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.075
3 89.45% Belorussian + 10.55% Southeast_English @ 4.089
4 92.58% Belorussian + 7.42% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.116
5 92.58% Belorussian + 7.42% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.128
6 91.80% Belorussian + 8.20% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.131
7 90.23% Belorussian + 9.77% French @ 4.165
8 93.36% Belorussian + 6.64% French_Basque @ 4.169
9 88.67% Belorussian + 11.33% South_Dutch @ 4.175
10 88.67% Belorussian + 11.33% West_German @ 4.175

and:

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% East_German @ 4.581
2 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% South_Polish @ 4.680
3 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Polish + 25% South_Polish @ 4.793
4 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% East_German @ 4.795
5 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Hungarian @ 4.844
6 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Austrian @ 4.863
7 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% South_Polish @ 4.917
8 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Polish + 25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.936
9 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% North_Swedish @ 4.967
10 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% North_Swedish @ 4.986

Overall, you can see that the "British" carries over on multiple different calculators. It gets picked up on pretty much ever calc I use.
My great grandmother's maiden name is also super rare (only around 40 people have it and everyone with it is related to us) and looks to have been a Polonised British surname.

[Ibericus]

hmmm no. it means you are bit more western than those polish samples.

[Grace O'Malley]

It would be most obvious if you had a Scots surname in your family tree. It's not always possible for people to go back a long way though. Also if you got 23&Me did you get any British&Irish? If too far back it most probably wouldn't show up in commercial dna tests. Irish and Scottish results are similar. This is my Dodecad K12b.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_Dodecad +50% Irish_Dodecad @ 0.835894


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad +25% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad +25% Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.398706


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.398706
2 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad @ 0.712788
3 Argyll_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.722442
4 Argyll_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.730253
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 0.740567
6 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.755977
7 Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.764158
8 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Isles_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.777659
9 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.821687
10 Argyll_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.826009
11 CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.831709
12 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad @ 0.835894
13 Dutch_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.848813
14 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.859712
15 English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.861308
16 Argyll_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.863338
17 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 0.869723
18 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.904689
19 Argyll_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.911044
20 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Isles_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.915712

Mixed Mode on K12b.

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 22.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 0.34
2 81.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 18.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 0.57
3 95.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.66
4 95.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.72
5 95.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 0.74
6 53.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 46.3% German (Dodecad) @ 0.77
7 95.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 0.77
8 96.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 0.78
9 50.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 49.1% German (Dodecad) @ 0.79
10 95.3% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 0.79
11 96.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.6% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 0.8
12 95.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 0.8
13 51.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 48.6% German (Dodecad) @ 0.82
14 95.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.87
15 70.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 29.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 0.88
16 94.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 5.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 0.88
17 96.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.6% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.9
18 96.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 0.9
19 87.5% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 12.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.95
20 87.1% Kent (1000Genomes) + 12.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.99

With the EU Test

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.245638


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.951021


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.914253
2 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.915246
3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.934294
4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.951021
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.993238
6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.006981
7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.076510
8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.096210
9 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.108037
10 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.123691
11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.124095
12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.124858
13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.142874
14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.166859
15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.205417
16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.217157
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.242117
18 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.245638
19 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.268320
20 NL + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.269235

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.1% Scottish + 29.9% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.58
2 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 2.68
3 96.6% Orcadian + 3.4% LIT @ 2.69
4 86.6% Orcadian + 13.4% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.69
5 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% EE @ 2.71
6 98.4% Orcadian + 1.6% GE @ 2.73
7 68.9% Scottish + 31.1% NO @ 2.76
8 97% Orcadian + 3% Belorussian @ 2.76
9 75.4% IE + 24.6% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.77
10 96.4% Orcadian + 3.6% PL @ 2.77
11 88.3% Orcadian + 11.7% NO @ 2.77
12 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% Northwest_Russian @ 2.77
13 97% Orcadian + 3% West_Russian @ 2.78
14 97% Orcadian + 3% UA @ 2.79
15 97.4% Orcadian + 2.6% Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.8
16 94% Orcadian + 6% North_Swedish @ 2.8
17 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% East_Finnish @ 2.82
18 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Erzya @ 2.82
19 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% South_Finnish @ 2.83
20 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% Komi @ 2.8

I personally wouldn't take the Oracles as anything definite in looking at ancestry but it is interesting to see how they assign populations to ethnicities. As you know I'm Irish.

[Polak]

It would be most obvious if you had a Scots surname in your family tree. It's not always possible for people to go back a long way though. Also if you got 23&Me to you get any British&Irish? If too far back it most probably wouldn't show up in commercial dna tests. Irish and Scottish results are similar. This is my Dodecad K12b.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_Dodecad +50% Irish_Dodecad @ 0.835894


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad +25% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad +25% Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.398706


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 0.398706
2 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad @ 0.712788
3 Argyll_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.722442
4 Argyll_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.730253
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 0.740567
6 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.755977
7 Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.764158
8 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Isles_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.777659
9 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.821687
10 Argyll_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.826009
11 CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.831709
12 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad @ 0.835894
13 Dutch_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.848813
14 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.859712
15 English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.861308
16 Argyll_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 0.863338
17 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 0.869723
18 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 0.904689
19 Argyll_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.911044
20 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Isles_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 0.915712

Mixed Mode on K12b.

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 22.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 0.34
2 81.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 18.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 0.57
3 95.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.66
4 95.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.72
5 95.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 0.74
6 53.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 46.3% German (Dodecad) @ 0.77
7 95.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 0.77
8 96.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 0.78
9 50.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 49.1% German (Dodecad) @ 0.79
10 95.3% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 0.79
11 96.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.6% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 0.8
12 95.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 0.8
13 51.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 48.6% German (Dodecad) @ 0.82
14 95.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 4.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.87
15 70.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 29.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 0.88
16 94.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 5.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 0.88
17 96.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.6% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.9
18 96.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 0.9
19 87.5% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 12.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.95
20 87.1% Kent (1000Genomes) + 12.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.99

With the EU Test

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.245638


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.951021


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.914253
2 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.915246
3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.934294
4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.951021
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.993238
6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.006981
7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.076510
8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.096210
9 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.108037
10 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.123691
11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.124095
12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.124858
13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.142874
14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.166859
15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.205417
16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.217157
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.242117
18 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.245638
19 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.268320
20 NL + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.269235

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.1% Scottish + 29.9% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.58
2 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 2.68
3 96.6% Orcadian + 3.4% LIT @ 2.69
4 86.6% Orcadian + 13.4% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.69
5 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% EE @ 2.71
6 98.4% Orcadian + 1.6% GE @ 2.73
7 68.9% Scottish + 31.1% NO @ 2.76
8 97% Orcadian + 3% Belorussian @ 2.76
9 75.4% IE + 24.6% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.77
10 96.4% Orcadian + 3.6% PL @ 2.77
11 88.3% Orcadian + 11.7% NO @ 2.77
12 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% Northwest_Russian @ 2.77
13 97% Orcadian + 3% West_Russian @ 2.78
14 97% Orcadian + 3% UA @ 2.79
15 97.4% Orcadian + 2.6% Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.8
16 94% Orcadian + 6% North_Swedish @ 2.8
17 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% East_Finnish @ 2.82
18 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Erzya @ 2.82
19 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% South_Finnish @ 2.83
20 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% Komi @ 2.8

I personally wouldn't take the Oracles as anything definite in look at ancestry but it is interesting to see how they assign populations to ethnicities. As you know I'm Irish.

My great grandmothers surname is polonised British (I’m pretty sure), and Scots made up a big minority in her region (Lubelskie) historically.

It’s just an interesting thought I guess, though it’s quite obvious from my results that I have recent Western European ancestry (probs just my German).

[Coastal Elite]

MacWiśniewski

[Tongio]

Is this scotish component stronger in wich part of poland? The south?

[Polak]

Is this scotish component stronger in wich part of poland? The south?

South, South-East, Warsaw, Gdańsk and Poznań.

[Grace O'Malley]

My great grandmothers surname is polonised British (I’m pretty sure), and Scots made up a big minority in her region (Lubelskie) historically.

It’s just an interesting thought I guess, though it’s quite obvious from my results that I have recent Western European ancestry (probs just my German).

It would be interesting to know for sure. It's a bit frustrating because the only way to be positive at the moment is by paper trail although you might be able to pick up hints if you get different than the norm for Poles in your dna test. My Great Grandmother was a Leland and I don't know if that has a Scots origin or an English origin or possibly even a native Irish variation although looking at what surname histories say it looks to be Scottish. It's not a common surname either but I can't go further back than the late 1700s.

https://i.imgur.com/JB5okYQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/ky5EKGQ.png

I have found my ancestor on the Griffiths Valuation.

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=Leland

In your situation 16th to 18th century isn't that far back. Do you know what the Polonised name was in its original state?

[Polak]

It would be interesting to know for sure. It's a bit frustrating because the only way to be positive at the moment is by paper trail although you might be able to pick up hints if you get different than the norm for Poles in your dna test. My Great Grandmother was a Leland and I don't know if that has a Scots origin or an English origin or possibly even a native Irish variation although looking at what surname histories say it looks to be Scottish. It's not a common surname either but I can't go further back than the late 1700s.

https://i.imgur.com/JB5okYQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/ky5EKGQ.png

I have found my ancestor on the Griffiths Valuation.

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=Leland

In your situation 16th to 18th century isn't that far back. Do you know what the Polonised name was in its original state?

Something like Wiskar/Whiskar/Whisker from Old English Visgar.