View Full Version : Ancestry, do my results look entirely British?
Singer of Songs
11-26-2021, 12:19 AM
42% Scotland
24% England & Northwestern Europe
24% France
8% Ireland
2% Germanic Europe
My ancestry traces back entirely to Britain and Ireland on paper. I don't know where the French is coming from? Is it normal for someone of British Isles descent to show some French?
I may have some Huguenot ancestry but there's no way it's almost 25%
J. Ketch
11-26-2021, 12:29 AM
42% Scotland
24% England & Northwestern Europe
24% France
8% Ireland
2% Germanic Europe
My ancestry traces back entirely to Britain and Ireland on paper. I don't know where the French is coming from? Is it normal for someone of British Isles descent to show some French?
I may have some Huguenot ancestry but there's no way it's almost 25%
How long has your family been in Canada? I don't think that much French is common for fully British testers tbh, at least I've not seen it before. Gedmatch Eurogenes calculators might be useful to see if your score is normal or not.
Singer of Songs
11-26-2021, 12:41 AM
How long has your family been in Canada? I don't think that much French is common for fully British testers tbh, at least I've not seen it before. Gedmatch Eurogenes calculators might be useful to see if your score is normal or not.
My dad is Scottish and English and my mom is Scottish and Irish. The English is the oldest in Canada having come over in the 1700s. most of the rest is mid-1800s, with the newest being my direct paternal side which came over from Aberdeenshire, Scotland in about the 1880s, I think.
I can trace the lines all back to Europe though so I don't know how any French Canadian ancestry could have snuck in, and I doubt this is enough to warrant suspicions of a non-paternity event.
J. Ketch
11-26-2021, 12:50 AM
My dad is Scottish and English and my mom is Scottish and Irish. The English is the oldest in Canada having come over in the 1700s. most of the rest is mid-1800s, with the newest being my direct paternal side which came over from Aberdeenshire, Scotland in about the 1880s, I think.
I can trace the lines all back to Europe though so I don't know how any French Canadian ancestry could have snuck in, and I doubt this is enough to warrant suspicions of a non-paternity event.
There is a Canadian guy on this forum who has a decent chunk of French ancestry on paper, yet he doesn't get hardly any on Ancestry and gets nearly entirely British, so maybe it's wrong. Like I said Gedmatch might shed more light.
Singer of Songs
11-26-2021, 01:05 AM
There is a Canadian guy on this forum who has a decent chunk of French ancestry on paper, yet he doesn't get hardly any on Ancestry and gets nearly entirely British, so maybe it's wrong. Like I said Gedmatch might shed more light.
That's interesting, thanks.
I ran my results through Eurogenes V2 K15 and the top results for single populations are Southwest English, Southeast English, Orcadian and North Dutch
4 population: Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German
Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German
and similar
J. Ketch
11-26-2021, 01:08 AM
That's interesting, thanks.
I ran my results through Eurogenes V2 K15 and the top results for single populations are Southwest English, Southeast English, Orcadian and North Dutch
4 population: Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German
Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German
and similar
Looks more normal, what is your full score in K13?
Singer of Songs
11-26-2021, 01:14 AM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.51
2 Baltic 18.86
3 West_Med 13.96
4 West_Asian 6.05
5 East_Med 5.71
6 South_Asian 1.90
7 Red_Sea 1.37
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 4.958058
2 Southwest_English @ 5.100119
3 West_Scottish @ 6.885857
4 Orcadian @ 6.937786
5 Irish @ 7.200169
6 South_Dutch @ 7.382830
7 North_Dutch @ 8.632317
8 West_German @ 8.820272
9 Danish @ 8.904629
10 North_German @ 10.053373
11 French @ 10.995812
12 Norwegian @ 11.488918
13 Swedish @ 14.094769
14 Austrian @ 17.555485
15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.307144
16 East_German @ 18.781601
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.576719
18 Southwest_French @ 20.119377
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.187876
20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.217224
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.953534
2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.015923
3 Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.114662
4 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.132293
5 Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.137671
6 Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.155835
7 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.200891
8 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.212436
9 Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.230831
10 Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.252524
11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.256407
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.272900
13 Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.277546
14 Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.282022
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.286705
16 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.287080
17 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.300123
18 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.346041
19 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.346790
20 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.366378
J. Ketch
11-26-2021, 01:34 AM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.51
2 Baltic 18.86
3 West_Med 13.96
4 West_Asian 6.05
5 East_Med 5.71
6 South_Asian 1.90
7 Red_Sea 1.37
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 4.958058
2 Southwest_English @ 5.100119
3 West_Scottish @ 6.885857
4 Orcadian @ 6.937786
5 Irish @ 7.200169
6 South_Dutch @ 7.382830
7 North_Dutch @ 8.632317
8 West_German @ 8.820272
9 Danish @ 8.904629
10 North_German @ 10.053373
11 French @ 10.995812
12 Norwegian @ 11.488918
13 Swedish @ 14.094769
14 Austrian @ 17.555485
15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.307144
16 East_German @ 18.781601
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.576719
18 Southwest_French @ 20.119377
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.187876
20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.217224
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.953534
2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.015923
3 Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.114662
4 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.132293
5 Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.137671
6 Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.155835
7 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.200891
8 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.212436
9 Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.230831
10 Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.252524
11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.256407
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.272900
13 Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.277546
14 Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.282022
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.286705
16 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.287080
17 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.300123
18 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.346041
19 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.346790
20 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.366378
A bit inconclusive. You have low Baltic for a British person but average/above average North Atlantic. So if you have did have significant French ancestry it would probably be from NW France/Brittany. Have you done any other commercial tests? If you scored abnormal French in two it's worth believing, if not it can probably be taken with a pinch of salt.
Singer of Songs
11-26-2021, 01:42 AM
A bit inconclusive. You have low Baltic for a British person but average/above average North Atlantic. So if you have did have significant French ancestry it would probably be from NW France/Brittany. Have you done any other commercial tests? If you scored abnormal French in two it's worth believing, if not it can probably be taken with a pinch of salt.
I uploaded my raw data to a company called Living DNA. Idk how accurate they are but my results were entirely "Great Britain and Ireland" except for a small 1.9% Basque.
EDIT: I also did ydna and mtdna testing with FamilyTreeDNA but that's not helpful here
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.51
2 Baltic 18.86
3 West_Med 13.96
4 West_Asian 6.05
5 East_Med 5.71
6 South_Asian 1.90
7 Red_Sea 1.37
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 4.958058
2 Southwest_English @ 5.100119
3 West_Scottish @ 6.885857
4 Orcadian @ 6.937786
5 Irish @ 7.200169
6 South_Dutch @ 7.382830
7 North_Dutch @ 8.632317
8 West_German @ 8.820272
9 Danish @ 8.904629
10 North_German @ 10.053373
11 French @ 10.995812
12 Norwegian @ 11.488918
13 Swedish @ 14.094769
14 Austrian @ 17.555485
15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.307144
16 East_German @ 18.781601
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.576719
18 Southwest_French @ 20.119377
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.187876
20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.217224
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.953534
2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.015923
3 Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.114662
4 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.132293
5 Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.137671
6 Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.155835
7 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.200891
8 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.212436
9 Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.230831
10 Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.252524
11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.256407
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.272900
13 Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.277546
14 Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.282022
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.286705
16 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.287080
17 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.300123
18 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.346041
19 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.346790
20 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.366378
Some values were cut off, it doesn't add up to 100%. Plus mixed mode is generally better. Do it again please.
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