Post your ILLUSTRATIVE DNA results

[17571imre]

I really like the g25 report.

my results:

https://imgur.com/a/EPkkkDO

https://imgur.com/a/q4QKtQm

[Polak]

G25 results:

Slavic - 89.0%

Germanic - 10%

Mongolic - 1%

Pretty accurate, if I change the reference populations I still get similar admixture (Slavo-Germanic and Central/East Asian) plus Thracian/Illyrian/Greek. Very accurate and fits my known ancestry quite well.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Where can we do this?

Edit: Never mind, already found it.

[17571imre]

G25 results:

Slavic - 89.0%

Germanic - 10%

Mongolic - 1%

Pretty accurate, if I change the reference populations I still get similar admixture (Slavo-Germanic and Central/East Asian) plus Thracian/Illyrian/Greek. Very accurate and fits my known ancestry quite well.



very good results for you indeed! im curious what do you get with the modern populations mixed mode?

[Polak]

very good results for you indeed! im curious what do you get with the modern populations mixed mode?

Fit: 3.018

Lithuanian (South Zemaitija) 62.6%

Slovenian 37.4%

Fit: 2.820

Biaka 1.4%

Lithuanian (West Zemaitija) 71.2%

Slovenian 27.4%

I always get SSA noise, I've got quite recent mixed Euro ancestry so my modern-populations are never going to be too accurate, but yours looked pretty good.

For global I get:

Slavic (540–1160 AD) 74.6%

Baltic (900–1050 AD) 18.8%

Hellenic (1420–200 BC) 6.6%

[mariusz99]

My results:

Slavic 55,4%
Germanic 32,4%
Baltic 12,2%

Previously I had Insular Celtic but now no.

[Kyp]

I did for my father (Azeri from Iran):

https://i.imgur.com/nkVZXb4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/piPfhzp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VLyndK9.png
https://i.imgur.com/jvGpqON.png

[Sora]

I also wanna look up the ancient results in that website but Idk how to do it

[17571imre]

I also wanna look up the ancient results in that website but Idk how to do it

Do you mean where you can see your ancient results? Because you can see them in your first report

[Sora]

Do you mean where you can see your ancient results? Because you can see them in your first report


Yes

[Kriptc06]

24.99 Euros? Nopety nope, it won't say anything I already don't know, sorry

[17571imre]

24.99 Euros? Nopety nope, it won't say anything I already don't know, sorry

15 euros if you already have coordinates

[JamesBond007]

Germanic : 60.6%

Iberian : 27.8%

Sarmatian : 11.6%


^Not sure what to think about that

Mixed mode ancient seems the most legit at least for me :


Scandinavian (Iron Age) – VK390 34.1% (clusters with modern day Icelandics)

Visigoth (Iberia) – I12163 27.6% (clusters with Austrians/Alsatians)

Insular Celt (Roman period) – S14491 38.3% (clusters with modern day Britanny-France/Welsh)

[JamesBond007]

This is most accurate result I have ever gotten from a DNA test probably this from IllustrativeDNA :thumb001: :


Fit: 1.855 :

Scandinavian (Iron Age) – VK390 34.1% (clusters with modern day Icelandics)

Visigoth (Iberia) – I12163 27.6% (clusters with Austrians/Alsatians)

Insular Celt (Roman period) – S14491 38.3% (clusters with modern day Britanny-France/Welsh)

With G25 previously I got something similar :


Target: Jamesbond007_scaled
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962356
42.8 England_IA (Insular Celtic)
32.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian (Icelandic viking)
25.2 SVK_Poprad_MA (Germanic Vandal)

[Adamm]

https://i.imgur.com/ZXIZFFm.png
https://i.imgur.com/r84Bs2z.png
https://i.imgur.com/6p3Maui.png

[J.S.]

https://i.imgur.com/AKVKvTE.png
https://i.imgur.com/6egvPlY.png
https://i.imgur.com/kwgj6NA.png
Still awaiting for the mixed mode results. Got it!
https://i.imgur.com/eeptb8h.png
https://i.imgur.com/7ajr9MG.png
https://i.imgur.com/Yezi51m.png
https://i.imgur.com/bBOxboY.png
https://i.imgur.com/OtQKL1I.png
Actually, i guess Liguria does make sense, as i have 25% of my ancestries from Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, South-East France.

[JamesBond007]

https://i.imgur.com/AKVKvTE.png[/img[
[img]https://i.imgur.com/6egvPlY.png[/img[


Still awaiting for the mixed mode results.


I dunno you but that seems super legit or super official. I guess I'll take some snapshots too since everyone else is doing it . :


[img]https://i.postimg.cc/cH6x7Fgf/dna.png

https://i.postimg.cc/PrHbt7C6/dna2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/8c6r4pJd/dna3.jpg

[alexmegas777]

https://i.ibb.co/3fx9Pk1/3way.png
https://i.ibb.co/3Fc67xp/eastern-blk.png
https://i.ibb.co/Pw6pyhr/farmer.png
https://i.ibb.co/vYv2gpc/global.png

[Gallop]

Ancient
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi-Mbyx8uGb4ESpH-6WO7hKnU0qP8akvkdraFqSYVPwICR87hbuN-l-oUZhxZclNl3oxIsHfrtli2IZpogXnudRSL_SyP5T6XQBW4pCBC 8vlSRIrURiG6SlUuA996MRX8091FWyqKmDBUr8iIa6yGVAbj91 sq1Aq864QI5b6mCAPbMMgXQGdv9GEfzH=s1326

Modern
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjIhy0U0X7ZtrWG4g0wxfvGZ8tWCiEMwh-FCvimY1LRIbcck9JWonrwe8yycuWQCk9k4d2yGYfJiJZq4UunJ 40c1ngRq9VFo5-PwVQz1-RAGU4ODPusqDH3yk7uYQ32jGYxt_c4SdjZVVDMkhCP42o7L7PF jTfKq0DSXsVZtuYIHNXoUI0TagEs5gPU=s1054

The truth is that I found Illustrative DNA very interesting. Practical, easy to understand, entertaining and playful at the same time.

Some of my PCAs with Southern Europe, Northern Europe, Balkans and Modern Africa where I am closer to the ancient Egyptian which in turn has a distance to the modern Egyptians.

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhYI2vwAadClToEhEmSrdv1r2ekH7ojqmawwaODIBWOU6 VhLzuq6sXflqSBIr4KwZr9VlhVcyq8MSRlfNMjQrkw3-tm-VdO7lvoLRRruiPtlvL-YF-eudJnW4QGZHttqc5EE89ziEsvyUxreLYD5zAsqY72S_9itsn4W MK_9O3-sZ4m1VYkxsIS6eBA=s991

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi27GX0Z2npBM7QN20Sp2nhekuswZhgtByZfUmwEX1kIs FT4C6Pv1nCa72oiD_p20HWpfGf4kH7NMtye_k1R1mOT6KVKNoW Mq-4CmnV99f7lfEROF4hUSlLD7ICRjH2SXepiZ9Y-5LjdDA3S_u0WQV5JZy13bmpF-6jWEhAq7Bte_QVMviJDbnXj3pq=s967

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi89Wm6Ud5wbvoCnL8smR_f_QuhL3FBRiz3S5qMF7hkOu 2mic-x1AfiQuXmUVmjLxGFZW_sM5m4m8XPQoIf_VxzYP0-qEZ2Mp-MGBmf-6ERzlIkQag8IuJphXoAFdLMrhr2zA5MEosG9kcmruHMvO_ub1h IIkoc1ZSeglYzy713A4q-oZpa2VrZxoKX=s991

Español
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg8-1GWyKKHPnytIh-cDe2klxhQNSQCQiO_Df3ddTan_9-iIOehO0AgtiLvuSpHyu2NFIMPT2ColEj31WsXTRIMFvK_3Lo3O ORpMorGd-ZsJ0FOvPwZ4-dpXSZKQfjFA97QytjbscnR6TOa01Q1kiQLaJkRcktiHT94qdSa qnMqosAygUc5lCVJJvHq=s1272

I think you have presented the topics in a way that I found easy to understand, clear, precise and concise, especially for someone like me who knows nothing about genetics.

What is the nationality of Illustrative DNA?

[Kenshiro]

Hellenic: 37.4%
Germanic: 35.2%
Anatolian: 25.4%
Northwest African: 1.6%
Italic and Etruscan: 0.4%
It honestly doesn't seem very accurate to me
From Apulia, South Italy

[Luke35]

Hellenic: 37.4%
Germanic: 35.2%
Anatolian: 25.4%
Northwest African: 1.6%
Italic and Etruscan: 0.4%
It honestly doesn't seem very accurate to me
From Apulia, South Italy

I actually found the ancient breakdowns to be pretty good, more or less consistent with my vahaduo results. I did notice that the results vary quite a bit if an erroneous region is selected in the settings. Perhaps yours is set to the wrong region? Or maybe it just does not work well for you, unfortunately.

[Kenshiro]

I actually found the ancient breakdowns to be pretty good, more or less consistent with my vahaduo results. I did notice that the results vary quite a bit if an erroneous region is selected in the settings. Perhaps yours is set to the wrong region? Or maybe it just does not work well for you, unfortunately.

I don't really know, it is set in south Italy, the thing that strikes me as strange is that normally the other tests give me a mix of Italic and Hellenic for more or less 60/70% but in part this could be more correct, i come from one of the most important areas for the Lombards in southern Italy and also on vahaduo they can be modeled as 55/60% Minoan and 40/45% Sweden Battle Axe, same thing with Corder Ware and Sintashta, and actually among my relatives somatic tracts Nordic are very present (Freckles, light brown/blonde hair and ice blue eyes)
so let's say that in reality not even i have understood well from which peoples i am descended hahaha

[17571imre]

I actually found the ancient breakdowns to be pretty good, more or less consistent with my vahaduo results. I did notice that the results vary quite a bit if an erroneous region is selected in the settings. Perhaps yours is set to the wrong region? Or maybe it just does not work well for you, unfortunately.

MrG do you also have results from this site?

[Luke35]

MrG do you also have results from this site?

Theoretically I should be a blend of my parents results, but of course I am recently mixed which can be tough for these kinds of calcs to handle. My result here looks more like modeling that is based on my closest single populations (midpoint).

Me:

Germanic (100–1000 AD)45.6%

Hellenic (1420–200 BC)21.2%

Baltic (900–1050 AD)13.8%

Liburnian (930–760 BC)10.0%

Sarmatian (360 BC–320 AD)9.4%


Papa:

Slavic (540–1160 AD)49.0%

Thracian (990–200 BC)41.0%

Turkic (650–1200 AD)5.0%

Crimean (250–400 AD)4.4%

Saami (650–900 AD)0.6%


Mama:

Germanic (100–1000 AD)77.4%

Imperial Roman (30 BC–400 AD)22.6%

[17571imre]

Theoretically I should be a blend of my parents results, but of course I am recently mixed which can be tough for these kinds of calcs to handle. My result here looks more like modeling that is based on my closest single populations (midpoint).

Me:

Germanic (100–1000 AD)45.6%

Hellenic (1420–200 BC)21.2%

Baltic (900–1050 AD)13.8%

Liburnian (930–760 BC)10.0%

Sarmatian (360 BC–320 AD)9.4%


Papa:

Slavic (540–1160 AD)49.0%

Thracian (990–200 BC)41.0%

Turkic (650–1200 AD)5.0%

Crimean (250–400 AD)4.4%

Saami (650–900 AD)0.6%


Mama:

Germanic (100–1000 AD)77.4%

Imperial Roman (30 BC–400 AD)22.6%

that looks really good for you. half Germanic and the rest your Hungarian side and your dads results also look good

[Luke35]

that looks really good for you. half Germanic and the rest your Hungarian side and your dads results also look good

Correction* Double checking my father's results because I remember him scoring Germanic. Awhile back I guess I had been playing with the populations, and must have eliminated Germanic from the source to see how my Hungarian side scored without it. I just added it back in.

So here is the results for my father if Germanic is included in the source.

Region is set to West/East Slavic & Hungarian:


Father:

3 populations

Fit: 2.318 (Good)

Slavic (540–1160 AD)49.0%

Thracian (990–200 BC)45.2%

Turkic (650–1200 AD)5.8%


4 Populations

Fit: 1.848 (Good)

Thracian (990–200 BC)34.0%

Slavic (540–1160 AD)31.4%

Germanic (100–1000 AD)28.6%

Turkic (650–1200 AD)6.0%


5 populations

Fit: 1.791 (Good)

Slavic (540–1160 AD)31.0%

Germanic (100–1000 AD)29.6%

Thracian (990–200 BC)26.0%

Crimean (250–400 AD)8.2%

Turkic (650–1200 AD)5.2%

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Also, for the sake of clarity, my result from my other post is the 5 population setting, with the region on Global, which is the setting designed for recently mixed folks.

My mother's is a 4 populations setting, which is the max for her selected region, Central Europe.

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Do you have results for your mother as well, Imre?

[Impaler]

My father's results:

3 Populations

Fit: 2.577 (Good)

Continental Celtic (400 BC–200 AD)59.0%

Zagrosian (1200–830 BC)33.6%

Ancient Ancestral South Indian7.4%


4 Populations

Fit: 1.938 (Good)

Anatolian (1–400 AD)30.6%

Swat Valley (400 BC–100 AD)26.0%

Slavic (540–1160 AD)24.6%

Iberian (730–100 BC)18.8%


5 Populations

Fit: 1.813 (Good)

Anatolian (1–400 AD)33.8%

Slavic (540–1160 AD)27.0%

Swat Valley (400 BC–100 AD)21.2%

Iberian (730–100 BC)15.8%

Ancient Ancestral South Indian2.2%

[Gallop]

Mine:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhAn1jOHxLmHHf-jR9uE-INg9uq6F7C9aRneAPmEBtvOl5u1Tk2OFyZN3rPRatL2VmexIK1 8YVzWAQqM5p9kKtFqY3ug8CH2vH1Ijp7XS9RnR7GedTVd8Vflh 7wcOFP2HR9Y8xIXfiHsznc8uG3yV03PRZlm5jqc_OnkGmCQR9b nyAvXilSiB1z4PfE=s1283

Father
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjSVyeuokwrxiU5waCyHg9xV3zr-MXRbjd_NsA11BteHrtDYi0WGVRAQHCaa7pDjAVc4FtXbyvIGW8 nNwhOONyh0J--z7mj5ObzaYOntGH9s18SyiTiXLUq9joCp8SVYJftT896zpesqG jq8w7B0QDDGgOzfqt1Q2tV0qQ3sdaM_oB6rivwZiInyxDP=s13 07

[Geni_kameni]

Baltic (900–1050 AD)
34.0%

Thracian (990–200 BC)
27.8%

Continental Celtic (400 BC–200 AD)
13.0%

Anatolian (1–400 AD)
11.2%

Hellenic (1420–200 BC)
10.8%

Caucasian (3700–1700 BC)
3.2%


Southeast Europe
82.2%
Balkan Slav
59.6%
Bosniak (Croatia)
40.0%
Serb (Bosnia)
19.6%
Aegean Sea
13.0%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria)
13.0%
Mainland Greece
9.6%
Greek (Thessaly)
9.6%
Southwest Europe
7.4%
French (Occitan)
7.4%
French (Nouvelle-Aquitaine Haute-Vienne)
7.4%
East-Central Europe
5.4%
West Slavic
5.4%
Slovakian
5.4%
West Europe
2.8%
French (Oïl)
2.8%
French (Grand Est Marne)
2.8%
West Asia and the Caucasus
2.2%
South Caucasus
2.2%
Georgian (Adjara)
2.2%

POPULATION
DISTANCE
1 Montenegrin 2.401
2 Serb 2.588
3 Bulgarian 2.611
4 Romanian 2.757
5 Bosniak 2.952
6 Bosniak (Croatia) 2.974
7 North Macedonian 3.299
8 Italian (Friuli Venezia Giulia) 3.686
9 Gagauz 3.865
10 Balkan Turk (North Macedonia) 3.890
11 Moldovan 4.063
12 Croat 4.104
13 Greek (East Macedonia and Thrace) 4.253
14 Slovene 4.409
15 Austrian 4.435
16 Italian (Veneto) 4.528
17 Greek (Thessaly) 4.591
18 Albanian 4.636
19 Hungarian 4.680
20 French Oïl (Grand Est) 4.737
21 Italian (Trentino-Alto Adige) 4.839
22 Greek (Central Macedonia) 4.842
23 Italian (Aosta Valley) 4.939
24 Swiss (Italian) 4.976
25 Alsatian (Alsace) 4.990
26 French Occitan (Provence) 4.994
27 Swiss (French) 5.006
28 Swiss (German) 5.180
29 German (Bavaria) 5.270
30 French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte) 5.307
31 French Occitan (Auvergne) 5.417
32 Italian (Piedmont) 5.423
33 French Oïl (Hauts-de-France) 5.468
34 Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) 5.564
35 German 5.670
36 French Oïl (Normandy) 5.694
37 Belgian 5.754
38 French Occitan (Occitanie) 5.843
39 French Oïl (Ile-de-France) 5.846
40 Italian (Liguria) 5.891
41 Czech 5.932
42 Greek (Central Greece) 5.949
43 Italian (Tuscany) 5.983
44 Greek (Peloponnese) 5.988
45 Balkan Turk (Central Macedonia) 6.006
46 Slovak 6.041
47 Catalan (Baleares) 6.084
48 Catalan (Catalonia) 6.092
49 Balkan Turk (Thessaly) 6.143
50 Italian (Lombardy) 6.195

[Boudin]

https://i.imgur.com/yCRpZhj.png
https://i.imgur.com/Klpb1Hu.png

[hazmatnik]

Used them to get G25 coordinates from my WGS test.
However i dont like they mix ancient DNA from various periods, not good methodology for ancient breakdown.

https://i.postimg.cc/C1xmJwgT/Screenshot-20220726-174109-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/B8RTn9bM)

https://i.postimg.cc/4dRXhFk9/Screenshot-20220726-174154-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2qGssG5k)

https://i.postimg.cc/0jmm04b1/Screenshot-20220726-174313-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4HfmJB6W)

[de Burgh II]

:icon_ask:

https://postimg.cc/8sfm8FSF

https://i.postimg.cc/Xvbch7DJ/Untitledd.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jdffbYfJ/Untitleddd.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xd6JR0wB/Untitledddd.jpg

[Boudin]

All your images are gone, I would try imgur.com for hosting instead. They stay forever in my experience

[Zroota]

Bronze age and ancient:
https://i.postimg.cc/Pqwp6SpH/Untitled.jpg

Iron age:
https://i.postimg.cc/pTRJjmkK/Untitled.jpg

Antiquity to middle ages (including Hunter Gatherer/Farmer):
https://i.postimg.cc/52GQqhtp/Untitledd.jpg

Modern:
https://i.postimg.cc/0yrJSk9b/Unt.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

There is another thread about this floating around.

These are my results.

Bronze Age

https://i.imgur.com/w13SfTd.png

Iron Age

https://i.imgur.com/vJl4jgR.png

Migration period

https://i.imgur.com/9DSUcKW.png

Middle Ages

https://i.imgur.com/eroMFbT.png

Closest Modern Populations

https://i.imgur.com/r5Tulcz.png
https://i.imgur.com/xUFfn98.png
https://i.imgur.com/fRShgfy.png

[Beowulf]

There is another thread about this floating around.

These are my results.

Bronze Age

https://i.imgur.com/w13SfTd.png

Iron Age

https://i.imgur.com/vJl4jgR.png

Migration period

https://i.imgur.com/9DSUcKW.png

Middle Ages

https://i.imgur.com/eroMFbT.png

Closest Modern Populations

https://i.imgur.com/r5Tulcz.png
https://i.imgur.com/xUFfn98.png
https://i.imgur.com/fRShgfy.png

very cool results :)

mine were quite diverse:

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)44.8%

Central Steppe (2100–1800 BC)40.0%

Canaanite (1800–1100 BC)11.2%

Northwest African (5200–4900 BC)4.0%



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Italic and Etruscan (900–200 BC)48.2%

Insular Celt (600 BC–AD 100)16.2%

Germanic (AD 100–600)12.4%

Egyptian (780–400 BC)9.0%

Berber (760–540 BC)7.4%

Iberian (700–50 BC)6.4%

Ancient Ancestral South Indian0.4%


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Roman Iberia (AD 260–500)34.6%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500)22.4%

Roman Sardinia (AD 400–500)15.4%

Pict (AD 300–500)10.8%

Arabian Peninsula4.4%

Roman North Africa (AD 120–220)4.2%

Roman Illyria (AD 100–600)3.8%

Baltic (AD 260–540)1.8%

Khwarazm and Transoxiana (100 BC–AD 950)1.8%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600)0.6%

Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%


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Simplified
France (AD 130–1400)42.4%

Iberian (AD 300–1200)21.4%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000)13.0%

North African (AD 580–1160)6.2%

Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)6.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000)3.8%

European Jew (AD 1160–1400)3.6%

Arabian Peninsula3.4%

Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%

[Grace O'Malley]

very cool results :)

mine were quite diverse:

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)44.8%

Central Steppe (2100–1800 BC)40.0%

Canaanite (1800–1100 BC)11.2%

Northwest African (5200–4900 BC)4.0%



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Italic and Etruscan (900–200 BC)48.2%

Insular Celt (600 BC–AD 100)16.2%

Germanic (AD 100–600)12.4%

Egyptian (780–400 BC)9.0%

Berber (760–540 BC)7.4%

Iberian (700–50 BC)6.4%

Ancient Ancestral South Indian0.4%


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Roman Iberia (AD 260–500)34.6%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500)22.4%

Roman Sardinia (AD 400–500)15.4%

Pict (AD 300–500)10.8%

Arabian Peninsula4.4%

Roman North Africa (AD 120–220)4.2%

Roman Illyria (AD 100–600)3.8%

Baltic (AD 260–540)1.8%

Khwarazm and Transoxiana (100 BC–AD 950)1.8%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600)0.6%

Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%


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Simplified
France (AD 130–1400)42.4%

Iberian (AD 300–1200)21.4%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000)13.0%

North African (AD 580–1160)6.2%

Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)6.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000)3.8%

European Jew (AD 1160–1400)3.6%

Arabian Peninsula3.4%

Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%

The only unusual or exotic stuff I ever get in my results is some link to the Caucasus. It's most probably just some old Bell Beaker link. Your results are cool also and more interesting. :)

[Beowulf]

The only unusual or exotic stuff I ever get in my results is some link to the Caucasus. It's most probably just some old Bell Beaker link. Your results are cool also and more interesting. :)

yeah the interesting think is that i get a lot of Gaul somethingsimilar happens with my real g25 coords now im more North Shifted

[alexmegas777]

https://i.ibb.co/54rP8k1/1.png
https://i.ibb.co/RCKHHvq/2.png
https://i.ibb.co/b7FXbYp/3.png
https://i.ibb.co/fMtMvmp/4.png
https://i.ibb.co/NTY3zxs/5.png
https://i.ibb.co/Tb9SWbV/6.png

[Far_away]

https://i.ibb.co/k64YffF/i.png
https://i.ibb.co/KKxFPpr/ddd.png
https://i.ibb.co/LtR2sCd/dddddd.png
https://i.ibb.co/k2DcRzG/two.png
https://i.ibb.co/TRzSCMk/three.png

[Gallop]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5NNnof9KMq1T_T4qlrEylHt_EbC690m_0w9kMWpjuNX 376NT8GT_gCARaADEWjEy5iaPSYF28qVpWBwPKgJHGByOGJyE-3KWnk-bv678AsAecslOSlQ1p5j536fSsHKk89a9myodEA3Qz-WFb2YBwR1sGXT_pSQkwu93-kUoPIeHys_Omxw5YODhW/s961/MapaModernoMioCROMATICO.jpg



https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwSJThVgg_FELXoHS6KXoDEAzMRt35JzR3NDLKiQpECH jL_VjehfvUgMdGUd2P-k3TbDIS72HAYAY0TtVpH0wsfdysdQ-yYIiqrqa_2PCBURafExmQZncksq8oQ2m9IMugt5lBne5k17Kht Pv5aHegIe31f3Z4GchrXwZeRkn2MhgxzyeXz9aIuRuM/s956/MapaModernoPAPACROMATICO.jpg

Both my and my father's maps are superimposed.
Red -Father.
Green-Mine
Rest-Equal

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_Equn0qqC5L7dQZNYKkk4lTtg-TGCrO-kL9DMV5UnZjjpLJRrjTmar78XeaSCUGB8xrR_bQ6NtQYXt8MtD O4d7YOOyTQ7ArEG95ajHUEWNCVl6m61QWS2-oF5akb46KPF5ZdXbk4refntrd6z18iEcqEvAAPq9-NSpZA0C7LG1SYGcEKkKinvrmY4/s625/MapaModernoMioYpapa.jpg

[Far_away]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5NNnof9KMq1T_T4qlrEylHt_EbC690m_0w9kMWpjuNX 376NT8GT_gCARaADEWjEy5iaPSYF28qVpWBwPKgJHGByOGJyE-3KWnk-bv678AsAecslOSlQ1p5j536fSsHKk89a9myodEA3Qz-WFb2YBwR1sGXT_pSQkwu93-kUoPIeHys_Omxw5YODhW/s961/MapaModernoMioCROMATICO.jpg



https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwSJThVgg_FELXoHS6KXoDEAzMRt35JzR3NDLKiQpECH jL_VjehfvUgMdGUd2P-k3TbDIS72HAYAY0TtVpH0wsfdysdQ-yYIiqrqa_2PCBURafExmQZncksq8oQ2m9IMugt5lBne5k17Kht Pv5aHegIe31f3Z4GchrXwZeRkn2MhgxzyeXz9aIuRuM/s956/MapaModernoPAPACROMATICO.jpg

Both my and my father's maps are superimposed.
Red -Father.
Green-Mine
Rest-Equal

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_Equn0qqC5L7dQZNYKkk4lTtg-TGCrO-kL9DMV5UnZjjpLJRrjTmar78XeaSCUGB8xrR_bQ6NtQYXt8MtD O4d7YOOyTQ7ArEG95ajHUEWNCVl6m61QWS2-oF5akb46KPF5ZdXbk4refntrd6z18iEcqEvAAPq9-NSpZA0C7LG1SYGcEKkKinvrmY4/s625/MapaModernoMioYpapa.jpg

what is your Ancient Ancestry Breakdown?

[Gallop]

what is your Ancient Ancestry Breakdown?

Global Mine (No limit)
Bronze

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)49.0%
Central Steppe (2100–1800 BC)40.4%
Bronze Age Caucasian (3700–1700 BC)5.2%
Northwest African (5200–4900 BC)3.2%
Savanna Pastoral Neolithic (2000 BC–AD 600)2.2%
Egyptian (780–400 BC)0.6%

[Gallop]

Global No limit
Middle Ages

Mine

Iberian (AD 300–1200)39.2%
Sardinian (AD 770–1000)20.8%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)19.4%
France (AD 130–1400)12.6%
Kartvelian3.4%
North African (AD 580–1160)1.8%
Cushitic (2000 BC–AD 600)1.6%
Baltic (AD 900–1050)0.6%
East Siberian (AD 1050–1200)0.6%

Father

Iberian (AD 300–1200)33.8%
Sardinian (AD 770–1000)18.2%
France (AD 130–1400)17.0%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)12.6%
European Jew (AD 1160–1400)7.6%
Baltic (AD 900–1050)6.6%
North African (AD 580–1160)3.0%
Khoisan0.6%
Bantu0.6%

[Rafael Passoni]

Me:


https://i.imgur.com/JV88Hyr.png

https://i.imgur.com/R33OfyH.png

https://i.imgur.com/kNyDfB2.png

https://i.imgur.com/pp7LIE5.png

https://i.imgur.com/kW0H8Ki.png

https://i.imgur.com/ENk7u0i.png

https://i.imgur.com/LNlO5k8.png

https://i.imgur.com/IRrkikw.png

https://i.imgur.com/fLMtNnS.png

[Eurafricanid]

Me:


https://i.imgur.com/JV88Hyr.png

https://i.imgur.com/R33OfyH.png

https://i.imgur.com/kNyDfB2.png

https://i.imgur.com/pp7LIE5.png

https://i.imgur.com/kW0H8Ki.png

https://i.imgur.com/ENk7u0i.png

https://i.imgur.com/LNlO5k8.png

https://i.imgur.com/IRrkikw.png

https://i.imgur.com/fLMtNnS.png



Interesting that you have 0% of any Levantine in your results, despite having Syrian ancestry.

[HerculesGB]

Here is mine:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230620/95650faae5c97e3f9f4db94b5c3cdcad.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230620/7ed2a006d78831609fea236f7998d3fd.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230620/ec0ee9c84a872bd6b30fd95a510386d4.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230620/d628971b3d5f1da0bf5a02cf995dafdf.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230620/06cb2ecf71aa9ead593c60c6061c4afc.jpg

[Coastal Elite]

https://i.imgur.com/7ixFyN5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Lp8YCEk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iMgIn0F.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DwdaJMH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/72gbTQQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wM5ELsf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hnUberY.jpg

[Luke35]

Using the Customizable Modern Ancestry setting (but set to default, I did not select these populations), this is my result. And also my mom's. Looks very good. Our coordinates are from AncestryDNA data.

Me
https://i.imgur.com/x1x8eeq.png

Mom
https://i.imgur.com/4PXV64G.png

[Dušan]

Top 10 2-way models

https://i.imgur.com/HmVUjcT.jpg

[Far_away]

https://i.ibb.co/5KHK2zX/Screenshot-20230720-014724-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qCwqXgn/Screenshot-20230720-014732-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/nsCkcZN/Screenshot-20230720-015117-Chrome.jpg

[Mesoman]

Illustrative DNA is a fucking rip off. Charging people 30 bucks for something that I do for fun, making similar models and modeling people for free..

[RyoHazuki]

I uploaded my raw data, I'll post results in a couple days.

[RyoHazuki]

My modern custom, all sources:
https://i.ibb.co/RYnBwgB/Screenshot-20230802-135754-Chrome.jpg

Custom populations only with Southwest, West, and Northwest Europe:
https://i.ibb.co/xFHFyxV/Screenshot-20230802-140638-Chrome.jpg

SW Finnish is more similar to Scandinavians than East Finland? It's quite high.

[Demirkazık]

Illustrative DNA is a fucking rip off. Charging people 30 bucks for something that I do for fun, making similar models and modeling people for free..

It's 17,99€ bro not 30$ :cool2:

[RyoHazuki]

Ancient Custom, 2-Way:
https://i.ibb.co/w69VQS9/Screenshot-20230802-141821-Chrome.jpg

Ancient Custom, unlimited
https://i.ibb.co/CJ61t9G/Screenshot-20230802-141349-Chrome.jpg

[DomitiusAurelian]

Middle Ages-Regional

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Middle Ages-Global

122608

Modern

122609

I have no idea why the pics are small. Do you guys know the reason? I'd appreciate the help.

[marco]

My sons illustrative results

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[Mesoman]

It's 17,99€ bro not 30$ :cool2:

A member from another forum told me that ge paid 30. Either way, if it's just 18, you can still pay 11 euros and get the coordinates and I'll take care of the rest

[Xavier727]

Customizable Ancient Ancestry

Germanic (AD 100–630)63.8%

France (AD 130–1400)33.4%

North Amerindian (4000 BC–AD 1600)2.8%


Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown

Migration Period

Germanic (AD 100–630)52.2%

Roman Britain (AD 100–400)26.2%

Roman Gaul (AD 130–500)12.6%

Pict (AD 300–500)9.0%



Middle Ages

Germanic (AD 700–1000)61.0%

France (AD 130–1400)29.8%

Italian (AD 650–1450)9.2%

[Sheppey]

Illustrative DNA is a fucking rip off. Charging people 30 bucks for something that I do for fun, making similar models and modeling people for free..

It is basically the superficial : oh, look, new and shiny ! Factor. It was a waste of my money.

[Mesoman]

It is basically the superficial : oh, look, new and shiny ! Factor. It was a waste of my money.

Unfortunately, loads of people fall for that BS

[Gallop]

Customizable Modern Ancestry

My results to 5 populations and selecting all European plus Roma and Jews.

Mine
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsCvcpm3Tpi2HwSuIoDzBuoPvmm_y6_95o7zvWVms5i3 0yj0Tce3Zd8vNHbzArbzb5zcuTGXbLW2V9jhcTeEZeGGVa5mrS PpH6-5hz79dEdbmJiuYP1DjdIizs7Uzj5s7N-986cDP9mQ6MKCUvq3H6xMA_QuUMaPK3Te0OuYDyqX1-dDY4RTDA9RcnVJc/s1281/Europe5Poblaciones.jpg

Father
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsqEs1ppjNPfSmMUDCAActxxuFcYlyuxiXEuvbG0dMhY ttIfMcKAMmWxQae1o9yrbKMVmOgzQ8_HEOoU7xcJoSbuxSbf2g YQpnHe6NaO9JmKOn-1P3J7Ei2Z5RKXUwooEwg-i2yKdqe1aF11Xzct803OFxzMS-sGS4y9e8w0dARp90XbXC0qGtk4IL5dg/s1287/Europe5PoblacionesPop.jpg

I have a father who is half Portuguese and I don't know it.

[Cristiano viejo]

I have a father who is half Portuguese and I don't know it.

:heh:

[Xavier727]

Genetically Closest Modern Populations

POPULATION DISTANCE:
1 Dutch 2.467
2 Norwegian (Bergen) 2.499
3 Norwegian 2.500
4 Danish 2.522
5 Scottish 2.586
6 Orcadian 2.598
7 Irish 2.708
8 English 2.750
9 Welsh 2.765
10 Shetlander 2.808
11 Breton 2.945
12 Swedish 2.987
13 Icelander 3.016
14 German (Hamburg) 3.021
15 Cornish 3.121
16 German 3.121
17 German (Bavaria) 3.430
18 Belgian 3.674
19 Austrian 3.945
20 French Oïl (Pays de la Loire) 4.007

[DarkoV]

Genetically Closest Modern Populations:

1 Czech 2.321
2 German (Saxony) 2.701
3 Ukrainian (Lviv) 2.978
4 Slovene 3.016
5 Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) 3.166
6 Hungarian 3.216
7 Croat 3.277
8 Polish 3.413
9 German (Hamburg) 3.578
10 German (Bavaria) 3.694
11 Austrian 3.703
12 Polish (Wielkopolska) 3.760
13 German 3.778
14 Ukrainian (Sumy) 3.861
15 Slovak 3.880
16 Ukrainian (Zhytomyr) 4.000
17 Moldovan 4.114
18 Ukrainian (Donetsk) 4.168
19 Ukrainian (Cherkasy) 4.180
20 Ukrainian (Dnipro) 4.199
21 Ukrainian (Rivne) 4.224
22 Russian (Belgorod) 4.278
23 Russian (Voronez) 4.350
24 Ukrainian (Chernihiv) 4.353
25 Russian (Oryol) 4.361
26 Swedish 4.443
27 Russian (Smolensk) 4.457
28 Bosniak (Croatia) 4.525
29 Bosniak 4.561
30 Danish 4.700

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Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown

BRONZE AGE

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC)
43.4%
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC)
41.2%
Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC)
14.2%
Canaanite (1800–1100 BC)
1.2%

IRON AGE

Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC)
49.0%
Illyrian (750–200 BC)
45.2%
Phoenician (1000–330 BC)
4.8%
Xiongnu (150–1 BC)
1.0%

MIGRATION PERIOD

Slavic (AD 540–1100)
65.6%
Roman Pannonia (AD 130–600)
26.8%
Roman Illyria (AD 100–600)
6.8%
Rouran Khaganate (AD 330–550)
0.8%

MIDDLE AGES

Slavic (AD 540–1270)
70.6%
Balkans (AD 500–1000)
28.2%
Magyar
1.2%

Ancient Populations 'Mixed Mode'

BRONZE AGE

1. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 84.1% - Cucuteni-Trypillia Culture (Ukraine) 15.9%
2. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 87% - Baden Culture (Hungary) 13%
3. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 84.8% - Globular Amphora Culture (Poland) 15.2%
4. Unetice Culture (Czechia) 88.9% - Bronze Age Aegean Helladic Culture (Greece) 11.1%
5. Srubnaya Culture (Russia) 67.3% - Globular Amphora Culture (Poland) 32.7%

IRON AGE

1. Gaul Etruria (Italy) 66.2% - Balt Bronze Age 33.8% (Latvia, Lithuania)
2. Balt Bronze Age (Latvia, Lithuania) 44.4% - North Illyrian (Croatia) 55.6%
3. Gaul Etruria (Italy) - 60.9% Estonia (Iron Age) 39.1%
4. Estonia Iron Age 68.5% - Hellenistic Greek Empuries (Spain) – 31.5%
5. Gaul Etruria (Italy) 57.5% - Northeast European Mercenary Himera Sicily (Italy) – 42.5%

ROMAN AGE

1. Nordic Iron Age Scania (Sweden) 48.7% - Byzantine Slav Nicaea (Turkey) 51.3%
2. Nordic Iron Age Scania (Sweden) 55.4% - Byzantine Slav Tragurium (Croatia) 44.6%
3. Balt Migration Period (Lithuania) 54% - Late Antiquity North Italian (Turin) 46%
4. Ingrian (Russia) 52.6% - Roman Pannonian (Croatia) 47.4%
5. Ingrian (Russia) 56.6% - Late Antiquity North Italian (Turin) 43.4%

MIDDLE AGES

1. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 61.2% - Post-Medieval Faroese (Faore Islands) 38.8%
2. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 62.2% - Medieval Frisian Groningen (Netherlands) 37.8%
3. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 60.6% - Norse Viking Funen (Denmark) 39.4%
4. Gleb Svyatoslavich Rurik Dynasty (Ukraine) 58.8% - Norse Viking Skara (Sweden) 41.2%
5. Norse Viking Skara (Sweden) 35.2% - Post Medieval Syrmia (Serbia) 64.8%

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[Feiichy]

Nice results! A NW Croat. Could you share your scaled G25 coords, please? :)

[DarkoV]

Nice results! A NW Croat. Could you share your scaled G25 coords, please? :)

Here are the coordinates. I hope to discover something interesting ;-)


0.127482,0.132019,0.063733,0.043282,0.040623,0.009 203,0.006815,0.006231,0.002659,-0.009659,0.00341,-0.008243,0.007433,0.024222,0.008958,-0.001458,-0.0103,0.000633,0.009176,0.002001,-0.001747,0.000989,0.00456,-0.001446,0.000838

0.0112,0.013,0.0169,0.0134,0.0132,0.0033,0.0029,0. 0027,0.0013,-0.0053,0.0021,-0.0055,0.005,0.0176,0.0066,-0.0011,-0.0079,0.0005,0.0073,0.0016,-0.0014,0.0008,0.0037,-0.0012,0.0007

[Feiichy]

Here are the coordinates. I hope to discover something interesting ;-)

You have very high Germanic input, but that is normal for NW Croats. Where are your 4 grandparents from, Zagorje?
here is how you compare with other Kajkavian-speaking Croats :)

https://i.imgur.com/ewuPdHz.png

[nittionia]

Only my dad has results from Illustrative DNA

https://i.imgur.com/ahSEE1C.png

[Katarzyna]

So many people post their results again. Did they update them or so? Ok, here are mine. :)

Bronze Age

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 45.8%

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 31.2%

Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 23.0%

Iron Age

Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 53.6%

Germanic (AD 100–600) 28.4%

Thracian (1100–200 BC) 14.6%

Illyrian (750–200 BC) 2.6%

Central Siberian (2400–2000 BC) 0.8%

Migration Period

Slavic (AD 540–1100) 64.4%

Germanic (AD 100–630) 29.0%

Volga (AD 200–400) 6.6%

Medieval

Slavic (AD 540–1270) 77.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000) 20.4%

Volga (AD 200–400) 1.6%

Balkans (AD 500–1000) 1.0%

[majevica]

Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown - Western Balkans

Bronze Age

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 43.4%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 38.8%

Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 9.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 8.6%

Iron Age

Paeonian (750–100 BC) 45.8%

Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 40.8%

Anatolian (780–30 BC) 13.4%

Migration Period

Slavic (AD 540–1100) 54.0%

Roman Illyria (AD 100–600) 46.0%

Middle Ages

Slavic (AD 540–1270) 52.6%

Balkans (AD 500–1000) 47.4%

[DarkoV]

You have very high Germanic input, but that is normal for NW Croats. Where are your 4 grandparents from, Zagorje?
here is how you compare with other Kajkavian-speaking Croats :)

https://i.imgur.com/ewuPdHz.png

Are they really Germans by origin?
My FTDNA results
Slavic 57%
Central Europe 8%
Zagorje and Turopolje.

Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.

[rothaer]

Are they really Germans by origin?
(...)

Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.

I'm not the adressee, but I allow myself to comment: It's still unclear from where this substantial Germanic proportion in Kajkavian speakers comes. The fact that it's pretty evenly distributed suggests that it's an old contribution, so rather from Germanics (i. e. pre 800 AD) than from Germans (i. e. post 800 AD). I suspect Ostrogoths and/or Longobards, although it will likely not be monocausal anyhow.

Vikings are unrelated to this. The only relationship is that Vikings are also essentially derived from Germanics.

https://i.imgur.com/hu8eTUF.jpeg

[DarkoV]

I asked because I have more Scandinavian than German results.[
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Closest Ancient Samples
Genetic Distance

Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 1461–1635
3.305

Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
3.393

Gleb Svyatoslavich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1052–1078
3.697

Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680–820
3.904

Nordic Iron Age (Scania)
AD 427–611
4.042

Rus' (Sunghir)
AD 1050–1220
4.051

Medieval Pole (Silesian)
AD 900–1000
4.051

Post-Medieval Swede (Kronan's Crew)
AD 1676
4.112

Baiuvarii
AD 450–550
4.315

Medieval Dane (Zealand)
AD 1050–1250
4.355

Medieval Sorb (Krakauer Berg)
AD 1040–1402
4.386

Longobard (Pannonia)
AD 540–568
4.467

Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 710–1163
4.505

Nordic Iron Age (Öland)
AD 300–500
4.510

Norse Viking (Skara)
AD 900–1100
4.610

Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1180–1223
4.634

Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660–780
4.702

Rus' (Suzdal)
AD 1002–1208
4.712

West European Crusader (Sidon)
AD 1191–1283
4.757

Medieval Pole (Polan)
AD 1000–1200
4.810

Norse Viking (Funen)
AD 800–1000

Norse Viking (Funen)
AD 800–1000
4.861

Medieval Schleswig
AD 1070–1210
4.870

Norse Viking (Sigtuna)
AD 892–1040
4.979

Pannonian Slav (Avar Period)
AD 550–640
5.009

Saxon (Friesland)
AD 431–639
5.047

Post-Medieval Faroese
AD 1500–1700
5.062

Medieval Pole (Masovian)
AD 1000–1200
5.067

Norse Viking (Nordland)
AD 700–1000
5.103

Medieval Jamt (Frösön)
AD 1016–1262
5.132

Hallstatt Culture
1200–530 BC
5.143

Medieval Frisian (Groningen)
AD 775–1155
5.166

Quadi
AD 100–200
5.186


Goth (Wielbark Culture)
AD 40–210
5.204

Nordic Iron Age (Stockholm)
AD 475–520
5.228

Saxon (Lower Saxony)
AD 400–800
5.267

Nordic Iron Age (Nordland)
AD 60–400
5.289

Nordic Iron Age (Zealand)
AD 100–300

Norse Viking (Zealand)
AD 800–1000
5.308

Norse Viking (Saaremaa)
AD 700–800
5.326

Early Norse (Greenland)
AD 900–1200
5.334

Pre-Christian Norse (Iceland)
AD 870–1000
5.352

Nordic Iron Age (Gotland)
AD 600
5.373

Nordic Iron Age (Rombäck)
AD 450–500
5.383

Norse Viking (Oxford)
AD 880–1000

[Feiichy]

Are they really Germans by origin?
My FTDNA results
Slavic 57%
Central Europe 8%
Zagorje and Turopolje.

Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.

Hello. Explanation is as the following:

It's most likely trom medieval Germanic tribes. Unmixed Germanics were closer to modern Scandinavians than average modern Germans genetically, because Germans are more mixed.

There was no relevant Viking settlement in modern Croatia.

[Feiichy]

I would guess much of this Germanic admix in Kajkavians is from Langobards. We have Langobard sample from near Zagreb and he was Frisian like genetically if I remember correctly.

[Feiichy]

wow, I get very different results now when I switch mode to Global and no limit. Will post them.

[Feiichy]

BRONZE AGE
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 41.4%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 38.6%

Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 14.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 5.2%

Yellow River (2300–1900 BC) 0.6%

IRON AGE
Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 58.4%

Thracian (1100–200 BC) 25.6%

Italic and Etruscan (900–200 BC) 14.0%

Greek (770–400 BC) 1.4%

Germanic (AD 100–600) 0.6%

MIGRATION PERIOD
Baltic (AD 260–540) 37.4%

Roman Sardinia (AD 400–500) 18.6%

Germanic (AD 100–630) 14.2%

Slavic (AD 540–1100) 8.8%

Lazica 8.8%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600) 8.2%

Roman Anatolia (100 BC–AD 700) 3.2%

Rouran Khaganate (AD 330–550) 0.8%

MIDDLE AGES
Slavic (AD 540–1270) 57.8%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000) 12.6%

Iberian (AD 300–1200) 9.4%

Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100) 8.0%

Baltic (AD 900–1050) 5.8%

Kartvelian 3.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000)1.8%

North Caucasian (AD 650–1160)1.6%

[Feiichy]

Stears results are here :)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?380972-Magyar-Szekler-Illustrative-DNA-results-%26%23127469%3B-%26%23127482%3B

[DarkoV]

I would guess much of this Germanic admix in Kajkavians is from Langobards. We have Langobard sample from near Zagreb and he was Frisian like genetically if I remember correctly.

[DarkoV]

I think there is a more recent connection. My haplogroup is R-L260.
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-L260/ancient
A lot of Vikings had this haplogroup and the Ostrogoths from Croatia have it too.
In addition to the Y haplogroup, I also have autosomal confirmations. But what is most interesting, I have the closest autosomal matches with Vikings of other haplogroups. Examples

I think this proves that this relationship is not very old. That's why I'm interested in the results of other people from northwestern Croatia.

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[Feiichy]

I think there is a more recent connection.

It it was, such admixture wouldn't be evenly spread in rural NW Croatia and it is and it would be historically recorded.
"Viking" is just a proxy for Germanic, there were no actual Vikings who left any notable impact there.

Also many "Vikings" from Sweden were not genetically Germanic but assimilated Balts, Slavs, Celts and so on.

[Feiichy]

Also, mytrue Ancestry is simple trash. Extremely low level site, so if you get "Viking" samples there it is totally meaningless.

Your haplogroup to add is pretty central European, and possibly assimilated to Goths, but it is not originally Germanic.

[DarkoV]

Why is it trash? My wife gets these results at the top, and the child has a mix of mine and hers.126492

[Feiichy]

Why is it trash? My wife gets these results at the top, and the child has a mix of mine and hers.126492

It's quite unreliable site, quality isn't very good. Where is your wife from?

[DarkoV]

From Dalmatia. I like MTA because I can search for detailed haplogroups for all archaeological results. They put a lot of new samples a week, and a lot of them are from Croatia. The part about the famous ancestors is bullshit, but I like the rest of it. The child's results match my wife's and mine.

[#Oda#]

Why is it trash? My wife gets these results at the top, and the child has a mix of mine and hers.126492

MyTrueAncestry is TRASH because it uses false positive little segments. It's a commercial bullshit site.

Haplogroups are a hint, but just a TINY proportion of your autosomal DNA, so actually unimportant as to that.

[rothaer]

Why is it trash?


Also many "Vikings" from Sweden were not genetically Germanic but assimilated Balts, Slavs, Celts and so on.


MyTrueAncestry is TRASH because it uses false positive little segments. It's a commercial bullshit site.

Haplogroups are a hint, but just a TINY proportion of your autosomal DNA, so actually unimportant as to that.

Besides with false positive little segments MyTrueTRASH is consciously dealing with mislabelings, obviously in order to fascinate people.

Here’s a pic from MTA that was posted above:

https://i.imgur.com/4zxHa7A.jpeg

Why is here talked about "Viking Sweden"?

The finds are from the 10th to 12th century.

"We present genome-wide sequence data from 23 individuals from the 10th to 12th century Swedish town of Sigtuna."

see https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982218308443

As we know, the Viking Age ended in 1066. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age If the finds were evenly distributed over the period - we don't know - about half of them would not date from the Viking Age.

And secondly, a large proportion of the finds analysed are not indigenous.

”The data revealed high genetic diversity among the early urban residents. The observed variation exceeds the genetic diversity in distinct modern-day and Iron Age groups of central and northern Europe. Strontium isotope data suggest mixed local and non-local origin of the townspeople.”

“The Sigtuna individuals were widely distributed, with most falling within modern-day variation of Northern Europeans, with the majority of individuals encompassing genomic variation of modern-day individuals from Norway, the North Atlantic Islands, and England. Some samples show stronger tendencies toward modern Eastern, Western, and Central Europeans instead of Northern European populations (Figures 2A and 3).”

The following finds exhibit the following genetic resemblances to present-day populations:

Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001 NORWEGIAN-COSSACK-SLOVAKIAN
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005 FINNISH-GERMAN_EAST-BALTIC
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002 GERMAN-AUSTRIAN-SLOVAKIAN-DUTCH-WELSH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035 ORCADIAN-WELSH-NORWEGIAN
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036 CZECH-HUNGARIAN-SWEDISH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021 ICELANDIC-FINISH-SWEDISH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006 LATVIAN-ESTONIAN-FINNISH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kal009 OUTLIER LATVIAN
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001 ICELANDIC_ENGLISH_WELSH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002 ORCADIAN-GERMAN_EAST-Swedish
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020 INGRIAN-RUSSIAN_SLOVAKIAN
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021 ORCADIAN-CORNISH-GERMAN_EAST
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026 SWEDISH-SLOVAKIAN-COSSACK
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035 COSSACK-NORWEGIAN-SWEDISH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160 COSSACK-NORWEGIAN-SWEDISH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021 ICELANDIC-FINISH-SWEDISH
Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036 CZECH-HUNGARIAN-SWEDISH

It is recognisably a long-distance trading town with merchants from all over, similar to Visby on Gotland. This also relates to the time period. From German Wikipedia on Visby (translated):

"Visby developed into the leading trading port of the Baltic region in the middle of the 12th century.[8] A trade agreement between Visby and Novgorod can be assumed as early as the previous century.[9] Gotland travellers, i.e. merchants travelling to Visby, are first documented among the Russians and Danes: At least one Russian merchant church in Visby (St Olav[9]) and a mention in the Novgorod Chronicle speak in favour of the Russians; the presence of the Danes is documented by a letter of privilege from the Danish King Waldemar the Great (see Knudsgilde).[7] German merchants are only to be assumed in larger numbers later - after 1161.[9]"

Corresponding further doubtless misattributions could be found at MTA in practically all categories.

[DarkoV]

How do you explain the close autosomal relatedness with me of people living in early medieval Scandinavia who have the following haplogroups: R1a, R1b, N1a, I1a, I2a and E1b? Is it a coincidence?

Likewise, "illustrative dnk" shows a strong connection with Scandinavia.

[rothaer]

How do you explain the close autosomal relatedness with me of people living in early medieval Scandinavia who have the following haplogroups: R1a, R1b, N1a, I1a, I2a and E1b? Is it a coincidence?

Likewise, "illustrative dnk" shows a strong connection with Scandinavia.

You don't have a strong autosomal relatedness with indigenous people living in early medieval Scandinavia. As for the small matches in cM at MTA they are typically false positives as anyone dealing with DNA genealogy and matching can confirm. In case of both sidedly unphased DNA like here you need about 700 SNPs (without maybe imputed SNPs) for a matching segment to be assumend a real match and not a so called false zigzag match (as for zigzag matches see here:https://blog.kittycooper.com/2014/10/when-is-a-dna-segment-match-a-real-match-ibd-or-ibs-or-ibc/ ). And as for having resemblances in the ancestry composition with particular individuals from there I elaborated above that they are not indigenous and what they genetically are like. You have a resemblance with Germanic-Slavic mixtures as you are that yourself to a notable degree. The reason why in particular a lot of finds from Scandinavia show up is that they have over proportionally many finds from Scandinavia.

In your general ancestry composition, i. e. your autosomal genetics, you exhibit exactly like other Kajkavian speakers:

https://i.imgur.com/D2Bkq2D.jpeg

Do you also have G25 coords from Illustrative DNA for your wife that is from Dalmatia? Does she have four ethnic Croatian grandparents if you don't mind to tell?

[DarkoV]

Thank you for the explanation.
Yes. These are her closest results and coordinates.


Genetically Closest Ancient Populations

Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 710–1163
2.303

Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 1461–1635
3.162

Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680–820
3.545

Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660–780
4.348

Johannes Corvinus (Hunyadi Family)
AD 1473–1504
4.414

Medieval South Slav (Ryahovets)
AD 1000–1250
4.468

Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
4.497

Visigoth (Iberia)
AD 500–600
4.534

Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1180–1223
4.853

Medieval South Slav (Bitola)
AD 992–1121
4.911


Marija_scaled,0.132035,0.135065,0.047894,0.024548, 0.03693,0.003904,0.00282,0.008538,-0.00634,-0.002369,0.002761,-0.004196,0.006244,0.022432,-0.006515,0.003978,0.011343,-0.004054,0.007793,0.000875,-0.010232,-0.00272,0.000863,0.004699,-0.004431

Marija,0.0116,0.0133,0.0127,0.0076,0.012,0.0014,0. 0012,0.0037,-0.0031,-0.0013,0.0017,-0.0028,0.0042,0.0163,-0.0048,0.003,0.0087,-0.0032,0.0062,0.0007,-0.0082,-0.0022,0.0007,0.0039,-0.0037

[Feiichy]

Target: Marija_scaled
Distance: 2.3976% / 0.02397643

59.0 Slavic_medieval
41.0 Illyro-Roman

[Feiichy]

https://i.imgur.com/nqZOlxj.png

[rothaer]

Thank you for the explanation.
Yes. These are her closest results and coordinates.


Genetically Closest Ancient Populations

Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 710–1163
2.303

Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 1461–1635
3.162

Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680–820
3.545

Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660–780
4.348

Johannes Corvinus (Hunyadi Family)
AD 1473–1504
4.414

Medieval South Slav (Ryahovets)
AD 1000–1250
4.468

Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
4.497

Visigoth (Iberia)
AD 500–600
4.534

Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1180–1223
4.853

Medieval South Slav (Bitola)
AD 992–1121
4.911


Marija_scaled,0.132035,0.135065,0.047894,0.024548, 0.03693,0.003904,0.00282,0.008538,-0.00634,-0.002369,0.002761,-0.004196,0.006244,0.022432,-0.006515,0.003978,0.011343,-0.004054,0.007793,0.000875,-0.010232,-0.00272,0.000863,0.004699,-0.004431

Marija,0.0116,0.0133,0.0127,0.0076,0.012,0.0014,0. 0012,0.0037,-0.0031,-0.0013,0.0017,-0.0028,0.0042,0.0163,-0.0048,0.003,0.0087,-0.0032,0.0062,0.0007,-0.0082,-0.0022,0.0007,0.0039,-0.0037

Thanks!

[OrdinaryWorld]

Also, mytrue Ancestry is simple trash. Extremely low level site, so if you get "Viking" samples there it is totally meaningless.

Your haplogroup to add is pretty central European, and possibly assimilated to Goths, but it is not originally Germanic.

I think Goths were quite likely bearers of it, not originally but via mixing and assimilations of other tribes moving from their homeland and going further south-east. Some subranches of L260 can be found in Italy, Spain and France where Goths left their genetic print, thus probably spreading it in the Balkans too. Some subranches can most likely be connected with Gothic movements including Darko's one.

[Feiichy]

Mother:

https://i.imgur.com/yK55mI6.png

Father:

https://i.imgur.com/GkW84zz.png

[Xavier727]

PCA Plots

127452

[MBVC]

127453
127454
127455
127456
127457

And Global no limit
127458

[Kenshiro]

Two Way
Fit: 2.073
1.
Greek (Central Greece)89.4%

Spanish (Canarias)10.6%

Fit: 2.083
2.
Greek (Central Greece)69%

Italian (Umbria)31%

Fit: 2.085
3.
Greek (Central Greece)89.6%

Spanish (Castile and Leon)10.4%

Fit: 2.086
4.
Greek (Central Greece)88.9%

Spanish (Castilla-La Mancha)11.1%

Fit: 2.092
5.
Greek (Central Greece)89.1%

Portuguese10.9%

Fit: 2.095
6.
Greek (Central Greece)90.3%

Spanish (Cantabria)9.7%

Fit: 2.099
7.
Greek (Central Greece)89.8%

Spanish (Galicia)10.2%

Fit: 2.099
8.
Greek (Central Greece)89.5%

Spanish (Andalusia)10.5%

Fit: 2.099
9.
Greek (Central Greece)65.2%

Italian (Molise)34.8%

Fit: 2.104
10.
Greek (Central Greece)91.1%

Spanish (Navarre)8.9%
Three Way
Fit: 1.906
1.
Greek (Central Greece)56.5%

Italian (Umbria)40.2%

Mari3.3%

Fit: 1.923
2.
Greek (Central Greece)51.5%

Italian (Molise)45.2%

Mari3.3%

Fit: 1.926
3.
Greek (Central Greece)59.5%

Italian (Umbria)38.3%

Mansi2.2%

Fit: 1.934
4.
Greek (Central Greece)58.6%

Italian (Umbria)39.4%

Khanty2%

Fit: 1.939
5.
Corsican30.9%

Greek (Central Greece)59.4%

Karachay9.7%

Fit: 1.941
6.
Greek (Central Greece)46.3%

Italian (Molise)49.8%

Udmurt3.9%

Fit: 1.943
7.
Greek (Central Greece)53.5%

Italian (Molise)44.2%

Mansi2.3%

Fit: 1.943
8.
Greek (Central Greece)58.5%

Italian (Umbria)39.8%

Ket1.7%

Fit: 1.947
9.
Balkar9.7%

Corsican31.5%

Greek (Central Greece)58.8%

Fit: 1.951
10.
Catalan (Baleares)22.9%

Greek (Central Greece)66.4%

Meskhetian Turk (Georgia)10.7%
First ten BA:
Two Way
Fit: 2.026
1.
33%
67%
Poltavka Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.107
2.
39.4%
60.6%
Corded Ware Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.198
3.
33.1%
66.9%
Yamnaya Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.232
4.
33.3%
66.7%
Catacomb Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.256
5.
40.5%
59.5%
Unetice Culture
Copper Age Anatolian (Ilıpınar)
Fit: 2.258
6.
41.6%
58.4%
Fatyanovo Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.281
7.
41.6%
58.4%
Srubnaya Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.293
8.
21.9%
78.1%
Poltavka Culture
Mycenaean Greek
Fit: 2.313
9.
42.2%
57.8%
Sintashta Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.326
10.
22.1%
77.9%
Catacomb Culture
Mycenaean Greek
IA:
Two Way
Fit: 2.043
1.
72%
28%
Thracian
Yaz Culture
Fit: 2.118
2.
77.3%
22.7%
South Illyrian
Mannaean
Fit: 2.139
3.
77.8%
22.2%
South Illyrian
Mannaean (Hasanlu Lovers)
Fit: 2.152
4.
79.7%
20.3%
Paeonian
Mannaean (Hasanlu Lovers)
Fit: 2.157
5.
75%
25%
South Illyrian
Urartian
Fit: 2.186
6.
79.4%
20.6%
Paeonian
Mannaean
Fit: 2.198
7.
75.2%
24.8%
Thracian
Sarmatian (Urals)
Fit: 2.208
8.
65.7%
34.3%
Classical Greek (Himera)
Scythian (Western Steppe)
Fit: 2.224
9.
77.7%
22.3%
Paeonian
Etiuni
Fit: 2.227
10.
77%
23%
South Illyrian
Upper Mesopotamian (Iron Age)
RA:
Two Way
Fit: 2.046
1.
86.5%
13.5%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Kangju
Fit: 2.068
2.
88.5%
11.5%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Kushan
Fit: 2.079
3.
88%
12%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Sarmatian (Western Steppe)
Fit: 2.099
4.
86.5%
13.5%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Sarmatian (Roxolani)
Fit: 2.103
5.
85.4%
14.6%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Bactrian (Kushan Period)
Fit: 2.115
6.
89.8%
10.2%
Roman Dalmatian
Kushan
Fit: 2.145
7.
87%
13%
Roman Dalmatian
Bactrian (Kushan Period)
Fit: 2.177
8.
88.4%
11.6%
Roman Dalmatian
Kangju
Fit: 2.198
9.
78.6%
21.4%
Roman Moesian
Bactrian (Kushan Period)
Fit: 2.201
10.
23.5%
76.5%
Bohemian Slav (Early Middle Ages)
Imperial Roman (Latium)
MA:
Two Way
Fit: 1.756
1.
89%
11%
Medieval Albanian
Post-Medieval Swat Valley (Singoor)
Fit: 1.811
2.
84.4%
15.6%
Medieval Albanian
Sogdian (Eastern Steppe)
Fit: 1.862
3.
88.7%
11.3%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval Swat Valley (Mahmud Ghaznavi Mosque)
Fit: 1.878
4.
80.2%
19.8%
Medieval Albanian
Alan (North Caucasus)
Fit: 1.897
5.
91.2%
8.8%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval Swat Valley (Barikot)
Fit: 1.900
6.
88.7%
11.3%
Medieval Albanian
Post-Medieval Tian Shan Nomad
Fit: 1.906
7.
86.4%
13.6%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval Central Asian Nestorian (Tian Shan)
Fit: 2.000
8.
82.4%
17.6%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval North Caucasian (Anapa)
Fit: 2.024
9.
82.3%
17.7%
Medieval Albanian
Ottoman Turk (Kaman-Kalehöyük)
Fit: 2.043
10.
83.9%
16.1%
Medieval Albanian
Ottoman Turk (Çapalıbağ)
Can plot also more or less between the post Medieval Greeks and Medieval Central Italians, Medieval Albanians and Byzantine Dalmatia, Roman Pannonia and Roman Imperial (Between south and North of Italy) or Medieval Albania and postmedieval Greeks
Fit: 2.350
42.
49.3%
50.7%
Byzantine Dalmatian (Tragurium)
Medieval Albanian
Fit: 2.392
50.
45.8%
54.2%
Medieval Central Italian (Tarquinia)
Post-Medieval Greek Mainlander (Roopkund)
Fit: 2.428
38.
48.2%
51.8%
Imperial Roman (Latium)
Roman Pannonian
Fit: 2.271
24.
48.1%
51.9%
Medieval Albanian
Post-Medieval Greek Mainlander (Roopkund)

[noricum]

https://i.postimg.cc/L8vsPXMc/illustrative-1.png (https://postimg.cc/TKLGMT10)

https://i.postimg.cc/Vksfz8bD/illustrative-2.png (https://postimg.cc/mtqfSKjH)

https://i.postimg.cc/HnCmRDg0/illustrative-3-PNG.png (https://postimg.cc/mzVK1nhh)

https://i.postimg.cc/28cJBRKH/illustrative-4.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/D0fj8Bdk/illustrative-5.png (https://postimg.cc/YGVfPNsb)

[Kostek]

129536
129537
129538
129539

[sacha]

I have my own qualms with their neolithic model, nonetheless:

https://i.ibb.co/rGg9848/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-28-45-AM.png

Modern map

https://i.ibb.co/zHpM1GC/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-19-18-AM.png


1 Lebanese Christian (Greek Orthodox) 2.753
2 Lebanese Christian (Maronite) 2.788
3 Cypriot Greek 3.361
4 Druze (Israel) 3.468
5 Samaritan 3.603
6 Druze (Lebanon) 3.683
7 Karaite Jew (Egypt) 3.783
8 Syrian Jew 3.816
9 Palestinian Christian 3.892
10 Lebanese Christian (Melkite) 4.168
11 Romaniote Jew 4.209
12 Cypriot Turk 4.314
13 Lebanese Muslim (Shia) 4.689
14 Anatolian Greek (Konya) 4.725
15 Sephardic Jew 4.734
16 Syrian 4.768
17 Iraqi Jew 4.811
18 Tunisian Jew 4.839
19 Anatolian Greek (Kayseri) 4.843
20 Dodecanese Greek 4.954
21 Lebanese Muslim (Sunni) 4.983
22 Italian Jew 5.063
23 Kurdistani Jew 5.223
24 Armenian (Şanlıurfa) 5.423
25 Libyan Jew 5.475
26 Ashkenazi Jew (France) 5.640
27 Algerian Jew 5.644
28 Armenian 5.652
29 Armenian (Gaziantep) 5.686
30 Mountain Jew (Azerbaijan) 5.840
31 Ashkenazi Jew (Germany) 5.872
32 Assyrian (Iraq) 5.900
33 Moroccan Jew 5.901
34 Anatolian Greek (Ordu) 5.909
35 Anatolian Greek (Niğde) 5.918
36 Syrian (Aleppo) 6.106
37 Georgian Jew 6.177
38 Cretan Greek 6.202
39 Cretan Turk 6.207
40 Armenian (Erzurum) 6.264
41 Mandaean (Iraq) 6.282
42 Assyrian (Iran) 6.300
43 Assyrian 6.333
44 Palestinian Muslim 6.385
45 Mountain Jew (Chechnya) 6.419
46 Italian (Calabria) 6.438
47 Armenian (Yerevan) 6.484
48 Ashkenazi Jew (Poland) 6.617
49 Jordanian 6.734
50 Italian (Campania) 6.874



Ancient mixed modes

P1

https://i.ibb.co/bbfgqzN/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-20-54-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/hDdCPqD/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-21-10-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/vZF7Jcb/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-21-20-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/W0BWg0s/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-21-43-AM.png


P2

https://i.ibb.co/drp6XvD/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-22-26-AM.png


P3

https://i.ibb.co/kyqVFhH/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-23-48-AM.png


P4

https://i.ibb.co/DtwwXP3/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-24-33-AM.png


Their PCA — the global hull is misleading since "Europe" is stretched out by Sardinians into the ANF void

https://i.ibb.co/JF8WGgY/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-26-07-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/Y28vgQL/Screenshot-2024-05-01-at-9-26-47-AM.png

[Far_away]

https://i.ibb.co/5s6sBdZ/Untitled.png
https://i.ibb.co/m58LLCR/3.png
https://i.ibb.co/zQzDcbG/444.png
https://i.ibb.co/947Sb6B/1.png
https://i.ibb.co/q1YmFCQ/2.png
https://i.ibb.co/1fkTPqx/ss.png

[noricum]

On calxpals request:

https://i.postimg.cc/fbf1wfqB/illu-6.png (https://postimg.cc/5HjsgLVC)

[Vessna]

I am not sure if anyone else got an update but my Middle Age Results changed from Baltic/Slavic to this:


https://i.imgur.com/2CA47Q8.jpg

[Solitude]

I am not sure if anyone else got an update but my Middle Age Results changed from Baltic/Slavic to this:


https://i.imgur.com/2CA47Q8.jpg

update only appear in Global mode?

mine middle ages don't changed anything i think but is in Latin America mode , some pops is with overfit

https://i.postimg.cc/mDM2PykV/middle-age.png

[Vessna]

update only appear in Global mode?

mine middle ages don't changed anything i think but is in Latin America mode , some pops is with overfit



In global and regional

[Dušan]

Global, I guess the same as it was.

https://i.imgur.com/Hlg5dAq.png

[rothaer]

If I for better comparison select regional and "West/East Slavic", I get this:

https://i.imgur.com/8rJ1mmi.jpeg

In global mode (and without pop limit) I get this, which cannot really be connected to actual ancestry:

https://i.imgur.com/Fuwjg6w.jpeg