Fillipino Test Results

[Grace O'Malley]

She has no Spanish dna. I think the Spanish in Filipinos is very overstated and that the vast majority are just fully Filipino. You would need a very large invasion of Spanish if all Filipinos were to have Spanish dna. There was always a large population in the Philippines. What I wonder is why they are taught they are multi-ethnic?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a_jXCel39E

Results on this one at 8.52.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYzE4AeM58

Results at 2.39.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e2_ebz7ga4

[GaneshD'Souza]

Go on 23andme's reddit. You'll see tons more Filipino results than on youtube. And 23andme is more accurate with Filipino results than Ancestry or MyHeritage. The majority have some small amount of European DNA. Some have none, but some also have a lot. I've seen up to 70% European in a full Filipino on there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/search/?q=filipino&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/search/?q=filipina&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/search/?q=philippines&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

A lot of the Filipinos who move to the US are very native Ilocanos and from middle-class backgrounds trying to seek a better life.

You won't see Filipinos like this moving to the US because life is already good for them in the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxyeAEdzlo
Most DNA tests don't ship to the Philippines, so you won't be seeing a lot of Spanish-Filipinos take a DNA test

[Coastal Elite]

I've never heard anyone claim the typical Filipino has sizeable Spanish ancestry. They certainly have Spanish cultural influence, just look at their surnames. When I comes to admixture, a significant minority have some Chinese ancestry, so many are multi-ethnic in a sense.

[Incal]

What I wonder is why they are taught they are multi-ethnic?

Are they? Never heard that.

[GaneshD'Souza]

Are they? Never heard that.

Well, we technically are multi-ethnic because we have 180 ethnic groups each with their own language. Maybe the OP meant multi-racial. We're not really that, but we do have Filipinos of different races.

[Figaro]

It is interesting how Spanish DNA is so overstated amongst them...I grew up around a ton of Filipinos, I think every last one claimed Spanish ancestry...and in most of them, Chinese as well..

[GaneshD'Souza]

It is interesting how Spanish DNA is so overstated amongst them...I grew up around a ton of Filipinos, I think every last one claimed Spanish ancestry...and in most of them, Chinese as well..

Overrstated for sure, but the ancestry is usually still present in small amounts. I think stories get passed down of Spanish and Chinese great grandfather, but the "greats" are not added with each generation. So instead of a great grandfather, it's more like a great great great+ grandfather.

This large DNA study confirms that it's common for Filipinos to have older European admixture. It had 100,000 participants from various backgrounds, including 7,500 Asians. Among them were 1,708 Filipinos. This is the largest genetic study to include Filipinos so far.

https://www.genetics.org/content/genetics/early/2015/06/18/genetics.115.178616.full.pdf

The study measured the admixture of various groups. What this study considered "admixture" is 5% or more of an ancestry


A genetic continental ancestry was assigned to an individual if her/his estimate for that ancestry was at least 5%.

Any time the study mentioned Filipinos, it mentioned European ancestry:


we also observed a modest amount of European genetic ancestry in individuals self-identified as Filipinos.



In addition, we noted that for self-reported Filipinos, a substantial proportion have modest levels of European genetic ancestry reflecting older admixture.



Of particular interest is the continuous nature of a modest amount of European genetic ancestry in self-identified Filipinos, consistent with older European admixture.

Unfortunately, the study doesn't give a specific breakdown or number of Filipinos with European ancestry, but they do mention this about the 7,500 Asians in the study:


A modest subgroup (3.4%) had evidence of European/West Asian genetic ancestry (majority are self-reported Filipinos),

So 3.4% of the 7,500 Asians in the study had at least 5% European admixture. That would be around 255 individuals. It says that the majority of them were Filipinos. So if 200 of them were Filipinos, out of the 1,708 Filipinos in the study, that would be around 12% of Filipinos having at least 5% European admixture. From what I've seen on 23andme, it's very common for Filipinos to have European amounts under 5%, so those Filipinos aren't even counted in this study, but they still have older European admixture

[Alexandro]

Overrstated for sure, but the ancestry is usually still present in small amounts. I think stories get passed down of Spanish and Chinese great grandfather, but the "greats" are not added with each generation. So instead of a great grandfather, it's more like a great great great+ grandfather.

This large DNA study confirms that it's common for Filipinos to have older European admixture. It had 100,000 participants from various backgrounds, including 7,500 Asians. Among them were 1,708 Filipinos. This is the largest genetic study to include Filipinos so far.

https://www.genetics.org/content/genetics/early/2015/06/18/genetics.115.178616.full.pdf

The study measured the admixture of various groups. What this study considered "admixture" is 5% or more of an ancestry



Any time the study mentioned Filipinos, it mentioned European ancestry:









Unfortunately, the study doesn't give a specific breakdown or number of Filipinos with European ancestry, but they do mention this about the 7,500 Asians in the study:



So 3.4% of the 7,500 Asians in the study had at least 5% European admixture. That would be around 255 individuals. It says that the majority of them were Filipinos. So if 200 of them were Filipinos, out of the 1,708 Filipinos in the study, that would be around 12% of Filipinos having at least 5% European admixture. From what I've seen on 23andme, it's very common for Filipinos to have European amounts under 5%, so those Filipinos aren't even counted in this study, but they still have older European admixture

Do you have Spanish ancestry?

[GaneshD'Souza]

Do you have Spanish ancestry?

yes, and probably 80% of Filipinos I'm connected with on 23andme have Spanish or at least European

[HelloGuys]

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/rgr2u1/my_great_grandmother_was_born_in_the_philippines/

Wow I have never seen such Filipina scoring almost 100% of European; the highest one was around 90%! I am very impressed tbh xddd

[GaneshD'Souza]

Wow I have never seen such Filipina scoring almost 100% of European; the highest one was around 90%! I am very impressed tbh xddd

I don't think 100% European Filipino exist unless they have more than one grandparent born in Spain. At that point, I wouldn't really consider them full Filipino.

Even this guy, who is probably the whitest Filipino in existence (both parents are Filipino)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TeaCPGMSEU
He has some native Filipino admixture. So 100% European Filipinos probably don't exist

[Zhulta]

more or less pure (at 3 min)


https://youtu.be/G3lsTlhjyTM?list=PLrhHawnhrwiozdG2Q0iGX_lC6na_hV4U D&t=189

i prefer their look over the often neo mongoloid looking malays or other southeast asians.

[GaneshD'Souza]

more or less pure (at 3 min)


https://youtu.be/G3lsTlhjyTM?list=PLrhHawnhrwiozdG2Q0iGX_lC6na_hV4U D&t=189

i prefer their look over the often neo mongoloid looking malays or other southeast asians.

What's the different between this look and other Southeast Asians?

[Borealis]

A shock to practically no one who has actually seen Filipinos in real life and is not thrown off by their surnames.

[Zhulta]

What's the different between this look and other Southeast Asians?

Not just his look, I have the impression that malay often have more mongoloid mixture or appear to be mixed and influenced much more by chinese in terms of their apperance, fillipinos to me closer to Polynesians, maybe i am wrong.

[KuakoVoice]

Not just his look, I have the impression that malay often have more mongoloid mixture or appear to be mixed and influenced much more by chinese in terms of their apperance, fillipinos to me closer to Polynesians, maybe i am wrong.

Who exactly is "Malay"?

[KuakoVoice]

She has no Spanish dna. I think the Spanish in Filipinos is very overstated and that the vast majority are just fully Filipino. You would need a very large invasion of Spanish if all Filipinos were to have Spanish dna. There was always a large population in the Philippines. What I wonder is why they are taught they are multi-ethnic?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a_jXCel39E

Results on this one at 8.52.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYzE4AeM58

Results at 2.39.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e2_ebz7ga4

Because they are Multi-ethnic.You have a bunch of different Austronesian tribes,and you also have the very distinctly Negroid looking Aeta tribes like the Manawa and Manobo,and you have the Chinese and Indians there and all that mixed together.

[KuakoVoice]

Not just his look, I have the impression that malay often have more mongoloid mixture or appear to be mixed and influenced much more by chinese in terms of their apperance, fillipinos to me closer to Polynesians, maybe i am wrong.

You are very wrong.I don't know who you mean by Malays,but guys like this exist in Indonesia especially in Sulawesi because they are genetically near identical being almost pure Austronesian. Western Indonesia and Malaysian guys on average are also much more Indian influenced then that guy and in general are alot darker skinned,being a mix of Austronesian and Austro Asiatic with ASI (Ancestral South Indian).And then Eastern Indonesia (Maluku,Papua,Nusa Tengarra) is a whole other animal and not even "Malay" at all,with actual Melanesian and even Polynesian ancestry and phenotypes being common there as well as the other aforementioned types on top of psuedo South Indian phenotypes.

[Zanzibar]

more or less pure (at 3 min)


https://youtu.be/G3lsTlhjyTM?list=PLrhHawnhrwiozdG2Q0iGX_lC6na_hV4U D&t=189

i prefer their look over the often neo mongoloid looking malays or other southeast asians.

He is not pure. I don't trust 23andme results. Many times they underestimate, hide certain ancestries and put ambiguous categories together.

The filipino category is ambiguous as hell, its a mix of predominantly Mongoloid (Austronesian), some Negrito, small amounts of South Asian/Indian, Papuan, Euro and even Chinese mix together. Heck the 23andme Pinoy category doesn't even show Negrito admixture which most Pinos have. This is my opinion based on seeing literally all Pino gedmatch and Global 25/G25 results and they literally score all or almost of these components I listed.

I'm 100% sure he is gonna score small amounts of Euro, South Asian and Papuan and maybe also Chinese if he upload his results to Gedmatch or did Global 25 by Davidski. Virtually all Filos that I saw their results on Gedmatch and G25 score some Caucasoid/Euro even as low as 1%. Only Igorots would be 100% Austronesian in the Phils.

[Cristiano viejo]

Filipinos seem good people and polite, even if they dont have Spanish blood :)

[Sora]

Most Filipinos I've seen on 23andme had at least few degrees of Spanish or Chinese ancestries

[KuakoVoice]

He is not pure. I don't trust 23andme results. Many times they underestimate, hide certain ancestries and put ambiguous categories together.

The filipino category is ambiguous as hell, its a mix of predominantly Mongoloid (Austronesian), some Negrito, small amounts of South Asian/Indian, Papuan, Euro and even Chinese mix together. Heck the 23andme Pinoy category doesn't even show Negrito admixture which most Pinos have. This is my opinion based on seeing literally all Pino gedmatch and Global 25/G25 results and they literally score all or almost of these components I listed.

I'm 100% sure he is gonna score small amounts of Euro, South Asian and Papuan and maybe also Chinese if he upload his results to Gedmatch or did Global 25 by Davidski. Virtually all Filos that I saw their results on Gedmatch and G25 score some Caucasoid/Euro even as low as 1%. Only Igorots would be 100% Austronesian in the Phils.

So what does the "Filipino" category from 23andme commonly found in Oceanians such as Samoans, Chamorros,or Moluccans actually mean?It's called "Filipino and Austronesian" on there which I find ridiculous because the Austronesian ancestry found among us predates the existence of the Philippines as a nation and even as a common ethnicity by at least 2,000 years.They really should rename that category to "Austronesian" instead.I find Ancestry to be far more accurate for Oceanians and it actually seperates Melanesian,Polynesian,and even Aboriginal DNA into distinct different categories.On Ancestry Wallaceans,Polynesians,and Micronesians get very different DNA results then from 23andme for example,the Melanesian Ancestry results tend to be much higher for example for us Moluccans on AncestryDNA.