How balkanic am I?

[noricum]

The question is simple, the answer not so much it seems. Depending on the calculator I got between 0 and +25% Balkan, thats not satisfactionary.
Can I keep my Polish WBP AK ,or shall I sell it for a Zastava? Please help me out with this life-changing decision!

You find all necessary data below,

Thank you in advance!

K13 Noricum(austrian),34.35,34.42,13.15,3.82,10.84,1.0 4,1.43,0,0.39,0,0.11,0.1,0
K15 noricum(austrian),21.28,23.19,21.04,14.07,9.2,1.31 ,8,1.07,0.84,0,0,0,0,0,0
K36 noricum(austrian),0,0,2.56,0.54,0,5.69,0,0,7.9,0,1 4.79,1.77,11.48,8.58,9.44,9.16,0,9.31,0,0,0,11.72, 0,5.67,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.37
G25 noricum_scaled,0.132035,0.140143,0.056191,0.041344 ,0.036314,0.016455,0.006815,0.011076,0.009613,-0.002916,-0.005196,-0.002398,0.002527,0.013074,-0.002307,-0.006497,-0.011865,0.00228,0.004902,-0.011506,-0.009109,-0.001113,0.002465,0.000843,0.002634
G25u noricum,0.0116,0.0138,0.0149,0.0128,0.0118,0.0059, 0.0029,0.0048,0.0047,-0.0016,-0.0032,-0.0016,0.0017,0.0095,-0.0017,-0.0049,-0.0091,0.0018,0.0039,-0.0092,-0.0073,-0.0009,0.002,0.0007,0.0022

[rothaer]

The question is simple, the answer not so much it seems. Depending on the calculator I got between 0 and +25% Balkan, thats not satisfactionary.
Can I keep my Polish WBP AK ,or shall I sell it for a Zastava? Please help me out with this life-changing decision!

You find all necessary data below,

Thank you in advance!

K13 Noricum(austrian),34.35,34.42,13.15,3.82,10.84,1.0 4,1.43,0,0.39,0,0.11,0.1,0
K15 noricum(austrian),21.28,23.19,21.04,14.07,9.2,1.31 ,8,1.07,0.84,0,0,0,0,0,0
K36 noricum(austrian),0,0,2.56,0.54,0,5.69,0,0,7.9,0,1 4.79,1.77,11.48,8.58,9.44,9.16,0,9.31,0,0,0,11.72, 0,5.67,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.37
G25 noricum_scaled,0.132035,0.140143,0.056191,0.041344 ,0.036314,0.016455,0.006815,0.011076,0.009613,-0.002916,-0.005196,-0.002398,0.002527,0.013074,-0.002307,-0.006497,-0.011865,0.00228,0.004902,-0.011506,-0.009109,-0.001113,0.002465,0.000843,0.002634
G25u noricum,0.0116,0.0138,0.0149,0.0128,0.0118,0.0059, 0.0029,0.0048,0.0047,-0.0016,-0.0032,-0.0016,0.0017,0.0095,-0.0017,-0.0049,-0.0091,0.0018,0.0039,-0.0092,-0.0073,-0.0009,0.002,0.0007,0.0022

First of all one should be aware of that the question is not really defined. What exactly is "Balkan" in this sense? So on this definition also the correct answer will depend. I will not sabotage the question, by stopping with this statement, but answer it for one definition. If you consider that "Balkan" is that DNA that was on the Balkans before Greeks, Romans, Celts, Germanics and Slavs did immigrate, then it's likely about 25%, like the G25 Feiichy ancient Slavic calculator 2.0 states.

Target: noricum_scaled
Distance: 0.0136% / 0.01359542
47.3 (Balto-)Slavic
25.7 Balkan
21.3 Germanic
5.7 Graeco-Roman

This doesn't necessarily mean that this part of your DNA actually at all came from the Balkans. It's just alike that DNA.

If you make something else, f. i. look for what proportion of your DNA likely has Balkanic ancestry seen per abt. 1500 AD (this would be analogous to the 23andMe Ancestry Composition aim), then your Balkan proportion maybe would be just 1 to 5%. I think the "Ethnicity Estimate" by AncestryDNA is aiming at abt. 1000 AD. This again is another question and another definition of what at all is "Balkan". I guess they would give something like 10% or less. But I don't know.

Do you have any results from 23andMe or AncestryDNA in that context?

Btw. I suggest to sell all for a Sturmgewehr 44. That is made for all Germans, regardless of these proportions.

(My results in the same calculator are in my signature. There we have in total an overlap of (40.0% (Balto-)Slavic + 21.3 % Germanic = ) 61.3% of our DNA. So no cause yet for a Lavanttal irredenta. :) )

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgewehr_44

https://i.imgur.com/Yunehoo.jpg

[ph2ter]

The question is simple, the answer not so much it seems. Depending on the calculator I got between 0 and +25% Balkan, thats not satisfactionary.
Can I keep my Polish WBP AK ,or shall I sell it for a Zastava? Please help me out with this life-changing decision!

You find all necessary data below,

Thank you in advance!

K13 Noricum(austrian),34.35,34.42,13.15,3.82,10.84,1.0 4,1.43,0,0.39,0,0.11,0.1,0
K15 noricum(austrian),21.28,23.19,21.04,14.07,9.2,1.31 ,8,1.07,0.84,0,0,0,0,0,0
K36 noricum(austrian),0,0,2.56,0.54,0,5.69,0,0,7.9,0,1 4.79,1.77,11.48,8.58,9.44,9.16,0,9.31,0,0,0,11.72, 0,5.67,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.37
G25 noricum_scaled,0.132035,0.140143,0.056191,0.041344 ,0.036314,0.016455,0.006815,0.011076,0.009613,-0.002916,-0.005196,-0.002398,0.002527,0.013074,-0.002307,-0.006497,-0.011865,0.00228,0.004902,-0.011506,-0.009109,-0.001113,0.002465,0.000843,0.002634
G25u noricum,0.0116,0.0138,0.0149,0.0128,0.0118,0.0059, 0.0029,0.0048,0.0047,-0.0016,-0.0032,-0.0016,0.0017,0.0095,-0.0017,-0.0049,-0.0091,0.0018,0.0039,-0.0092,-0.0073,-0.0009,0.002,0.0007,0.0022

I would say that you are not Balkanic except in the amount which is an integral part of the Southern Alpine genome.

Here are the map representations of your 3 main components taken from your G25 values:

https://i.imgur.com/q9t5uz3.png
https://i.imgur.com/PlHcP6k.png
https://i.imgur.com/vSou6ZZ.png

[noricum]

First of all one should be aware of that the question is not really defined. What exactly is "Balkan" in this sense? So on this definition also the correct answer will depend. I will not sabotage the question, by stopping with this statement, but answer it for one definition.

Es ist mir bewusst, dass das eine Scheißfrage ist :-)


Do you have any results from 23andMe or AncestryDNA in that context?

Yes, you find them here:https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?342980-noricum-23andme


I suggest to sell all for a Sturmgewehr 44. That is made for all Germans, regardless of these proportions.

No, it was a game-changer at it's time but now it's old, long heavy, the cartridge sucks and is overly expensive.
Yugoslavian paratroopers used it in the 50ies and 60ies though.
I got a East German Mpi KM stock on my polish WBP Ak, that should make you proud ;-)
For the "Germanness" in me i got the HK243.



I would say that you are not Balkanic except in the amount which is an integral part of the Southern Alpine genome.

Thank you, thats very interesting and it coincides with earlier results i got ( K13, K36) yet with the last 23andme update and many self made calculators i started to get higher and higher Balkan results.

[noricum]

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