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Zanzibar
12-23-2021, 04:30 AM
Asking because I'm surprised by how low the SSA the various Arabian populations are. In the older calculators like Eurogenes K8 or Eurasia K6 and PuntDNAL Global K13, Arabians like Yemenis, Saudis (BedouinA is Levantine Bedouin and seem genetically different from the former) score a lot more African ancestry according to the spreadsheets. In G25 from what I have observed, the Yemenis are only 1-5% African (mainly Dinka) at most, while Saudi and BedouinB barely have any SSA.

So I am wondering if the Natufian component is absorbing a lot of the African ancestry in Arabians or not? Also from what I learn, Natufian is Iberomaurusian (which contains ANA ancestry) + Anatolia_N, would most of additional African ancestry in Arabians be ANA/ANA-like?

Target: BedouinB
Distance: 3.7682% / 0.03768211
72.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
25.6 Levant_Natufian
2.4 Yoruba


Target: Saudi
Distance: 4.2284% / 0.04228430
75.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
22.8 Levant_Natufian
1.2 Yoruba
0.4 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Al_Bayda
Distance: 3.3407% / 0.03340652
77.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
18.2 Levant_Natufian
3.8 Dinka
0.4 ETH_4500BP

Target: Yemenite_Al_Jawf
Distance: 3.8947% / 0.03894683
76.8 Levant_JOR_EBA
21.0 Levant_Natufian
2.2 Dinka


Target: Yemenite_Amran
Distance: 2.9593% / 0.02959295
90.8 Levant_JOR_EBA
4.2 Levant_Natufian
2.6 ETH_4500BP
2.4 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar
Distance: 2.8586% / 0.02858642
80.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
15.0 Levant_Natufian
5.0 Dinka


Target: Yemenite_Jew
Distance: 3.8823% / 0.03882316
82.8 Levant_JOR_EBA
14.8 Levant_Natufian
2.4 Dinka


Target: Yemenite_Ma'rib
Distance: 3.4558% / 0.03455781
79.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
17.8 Levant_Natufian
3.2 Dinka


Target: Yemenite_Mahra
Distance: 4.0399% / 0.04039943
65.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
35.0 Levant_Natufian

However what's funny is if you remove the Natufian, the SSA increases lol even if the distance fit worsens a bit.

Target: BedouinB
Distance: 4.6368% / 0.04636824
95.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
4.4 Dinka


Target: Saudi
Distance: 4.8594% / 0.04859414
96.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
3.2 Dinka
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Target: Yemenite_Al_Bayda
Distance: 3.8555% / 0.03855464
94.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
3.6 ETH_4500BP
2.4 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Al_Jawf
Distance: 4.5119% / 0.04511870
96.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
2.4 ETH_4500BP
1.6 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Amran
Distance: 2.9962% / 0.02996210
94.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
3.4 ETH_4500BP
2.0 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar
Distance: 3.2925% / 0.03292467
93.8 Levant_JOR_EBA
5.6 Dinka
0.6 ETH_4500BP

Target: Yemenite_Jew
Distance: 4.2018% / 0.04201821
96.4 Levant_JOR_EBA
3.6 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Ma'rib
Distance: 3.9657% / 0.03965663
95.4 Levant_JOR_EBA
4.6 Dinka

Target: Yemenite_Mahra
Distance: 5.5496% / 0.05549605
97.2 Levant_JOR_EBA
1.8 ETH_4500BP
1.0 Dinka


Btw here are the individual runs with Natufian included into the model:

BedouinB (BedouinA is Levantine and are genetically different so I didn't include them) and Saudis

https://i.imgur.com/XWfLW0v.png

Yemenites from Al Bayda, Al Jawf, Amran and Dhamar.

https://i.imgur.com/swG9pkP.png

Yemenite Jews, Yemenites from Ma'rib and ethnic Mahras

https://i.imgur.com/PSoHiD9.png

The most African admixed Yemeni individuals in G25 are these two Yemeni Dhamar and Yemeni Amran individuals. They are only 7% and 6.4% SSA! :crazy: I'm shocked that's really low and would be the amount of Negroid that Saudis get on average in Gedmatch calculators.


Target: Yemenite_Dhamar:Y018
Distance: 2.7203% / 0.02720326
93.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
5.6 Dinka
1.4 ETH_4500BP

Target: Yemenite_Amran:Y504
Distance: 3.7437% / 0.03743679
93.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
6.4 Dinka

Zanzibar
12-23-2021, 05:08 AM
From what I remember from older calculators, they score a lot more SSA than now. For example, the Saudis in K8 score around 7.07% while Yemeni Jews are 7.42%: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml

Or in some Gedmatch calculators such as 1) Eurasia K6, Saudis were 6.6% African according to the spreadsheet while in 2) PuntDNAL Global K13, Saudi are 5.5% East African, 1.5% West African and 0.5% South African and Yemeni are 7% East African, 3.5% West African and 0.5% South African according to the spreadsheets there. I want to post the spreadsheets here but I will have to take screenshots.

Petalpusher
12-23-2021, 06:34 AM
It's scattered in all 4 components actually to various degrees. The best way to determine real SSA, is to have a West African reference + some ancestral components like in K8. This might create a bit of noise but you ll get some good integer values, if any, for each populations.

Same effect for Oceanian or Papuan/Onge estimate, you can't have some semi ancient components like ANI/ASI or it's gonna capture some. Here "SEA" is probably doing it already.

Zanzibar
12-25-2021, 09:39 AM
Arabians clearly descend to a large degree from some very drifted source population and need an additional component to bring their fits to a reasonable level and represent all their ancestral streams better, or else some sub-optimal component like Natufian will eat up all their SSA. G25 is definitely deflating their SSA ancestry to some extent. I can accept that Bedouins might have fairly low to nil SSA and the same may apply to a few Yemeni groups that are located in very remote areas because of their lack of involvement in the cosmopolitan slave trade, but the rest? Hard to believe.

Once we get proper samples, we should be able to get a more precise account of their actual SSA percentage. Although, there’s probably scientific papers out there which have already come to a conclusion on this topic. We’d need to do some looking.

Here is what happened when the Arabians are modelled using the simulated coordinates by Korotyr btw. It seem most of their negroid admix is now ANA followed by minor East African/Dinka-related stuff.

Target: BedouinB
Distance: 4.2117% / 0.04211661
69.0 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
10.6 ANA_(simulated)
7.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
6.8 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
2.2 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
1.6 Dinka
1.2 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
1.2 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Saudi
Distance: 4.2515% / 0.04251478
69.4 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
10.0 ANA_(simulated)
7.6 RUS_AfontovaGora3
6.8 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
3.2 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
1.4 Proto-CHG_(simulated)
0.8 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
0.8 Dinka


Target: Yemenite_Al_Bayda
Distance: 3.2770% / 0.03276987
66.2 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.2 ANA_(simulated)
7.6 RUS_AfontovaGora3
7.2 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
3.6 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
3.2 Dinka
2.2 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
0.8 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Al_Jawf
Distance: 3.8055% / 0.03805483
68.8 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.0 ANA_(simulated)
6.6 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
6.2 RUS_AfontovaGora3
4.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
2.2 Yoruba
2.0 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
1.2 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Amran
Distance: 3.1292% / 0.03129194
63.6 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
8.8 ANA_(simulated)
8.6 RUS_AfontovaGora3
7.0 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
4.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
3.6 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
2.2 Dinka
2.2 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar
Distance: 3.1785% / 0.03178458
65.6 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.2 ANA_(simulated)
7.2 RUS_AfontovaGora3
6.4 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
3.8 Dinka
2.8 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
2.8 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
2.2 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Jew
Distance: 3.8490% / 0.03848959
68.0 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
8.8 ANA_(simulated)
7.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
6.4 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
3.2 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
2.4 Proto-CHG_(simulated)
2.0 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
1.8 Dinka


Target: Yemenite_Ma'rib
Distance: 3.5374% / 0.03537392
67.8 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.2 ANA_(simulated)
7.0 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
6.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
3.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
2.6 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
2.6 Dinka
1.4 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Mahra
Distance: 3.3355% / 0.03335494
71.4 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
10.6 ANA_(simulated)
7.0 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
5.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
4.4 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
0.8 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
0.4 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

These are the most SSA-shifted Arabians btw:

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar:Y025
Distance: 3.7158% / 0.03715849
64.6 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.2 RUS_AfontovaGora3
8.2 ANA_(simulated)
5.4 Dinka
5.2 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
2.6 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
2.6 Proto-CHG_(simulated)
2.2 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki

Target: Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y217
Distance: 4.0615% / 0.04061491
66.4 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
8.4 ANA_(simulated)
6.0 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
5.8 RUS_AfontovaGora3
5.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
4.8 Dinka
2.0 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
1.6 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar:Y018
Distance: 4.0225% / 0.04022520
61.4 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
8.6 ANA_(simulated)
7.8 RUS_AfontovaGora3
6.4 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
5.2 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
4.4 Dinka
3.2 Proto-CHG_(simulated)
3.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar:Y006
Distance: 3.7935% / 0.03793500
64.4 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.6 ANA_(simulated)
8.0 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
7.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
3.8 Dinka
3.4 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
2.8 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
0.6 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: BedouinB:HGDP00624
Distance: 3.8330% / 0.03832990
66.2 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
10.8 ANA_(simulated)
7.4 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
6.6 RUS_AfontovaGora3
3.2 Dinka
2.6 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
2.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
1.2 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Target: Yemenite_Dhamar:Y382
Distance: 3.0015% / 0.03001530
67.6 Proto-Natufian_(simulated)
9.8 ANA_(simulated)
6.8 Proto-IranHG_(simulated)
5.6 RUS_AfontovaGora3
4.4 Dinka
3.0 Anatolia-related_(simulated)
2.0 S_AASI_Sim_Hakkipikki
0.8 Proto-CHG_(simulated)

Borealis
01-01-2022, 11:18 PM
I just tested out those samples you sent me. I used only moderns as references because ancients is too troublesome for these many samples. I also left out the Levantines because they can't be modeled with the same modern groups that peninsular Arabs and Iraqis can(they need something more ANF). Couple things I've noted:

1. The Iraqis here are just like the Iraqis on the regular spreadsheet.
2. There does seem to be some Arabian individuals with far higher SSA than the samples currently on the sheet.
3. One of the Yemeni samples is over 40% South Asian, clear outlier.
4. EmiratiB is heavily Persian admixed with some South Asian ancestry too. EmiratiA is also admixed with those groups but to a much lesser extent. 2 Saudi samples and some Omani samples also have fairly high Iranian ancestry.
5. The highest SSA is found among an Omani individual(OMAN3).

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555946
Distance: 2.9324% / 0.02932362
89.6 BedouinB
9.2 BedouinA
1.2 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555944
Distance: 2.2056% / 0.02205576
41.0 Gujarati
35.2 BedouinB
23.0 BedouinA
0.8 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555942
Distance: 2.7605% / 0.02760451
72.0 BedouinB
19.8 BedouinA
7.4 Dinka
0.8 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555939
Distance: 2.2442% / 0.02244174
77.8 BedouinB
19.6 BedouinA
2.4 Dinka
0.2 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555933
Distance: 2.8599% / 0.02859886
89.8 BedouinB
5.2 Dinka
5.0 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555932
Distance: 3.5474% / 0.03547409
63.6 BedouinB
34.0 BedouinA
2.4 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555930
Distance: 1.7740% / 0.01773999
84.6 BedouinB
6.0 Dinka
5.4 BedouinA
4.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555929
Distance: 3.2140% / 0.03213998
86.4 BedouinB
7.6 Gujarati
5.4 BedouinA
0.6 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555928
Distance: 3.0011% / 0.03001130
91.6 BedouinB
5.6 Gujarati
2.8 BedouinA

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555957
Distance: 2.7002% / 0.02700155
50.8 BedouinB
36.2 BedouinA
13.0 Dinka

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555956
Distance: 2.6509% / 0.02650863
81.2 BedouinB
10.2 Iranian_Fars
5.8 BedouinA
2.6 Dinka
0.2 Gujarati

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555955
Distance: 3.2638% / 0.03263759
97.4 BedouinB
2.6 Dinka

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555954
Distance: 2.8348% / 0.02834794
93.0 BedouinB
5.2 BedouinA
0.8 Dinka
0.8 Gujarati
0.2 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555953
Distance: 2.8423% / 0.02842311
86.8 BedouinB
13.2 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555952
Distance: 3.4915% / 0.03491502
93.4 BedouinB
6.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555951
Distance: 3.4143% / 0.03414263
90.0 BedouinB
10.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555950
Distance: 2.9116% / 0.02911609
69.8 BedouinB
29.8 Iranian_Fars
0.4 Gujarati

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555949
Distance: 2.6299% / 0.02629894
82.0 BedouinB
18.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: Omani_o:OMAN2
Distance: 2.5978% / 0.02597790
47.2 Iranian_Fars
45.6 BedouinB
5.2 Dinka
2.0 Gujarati

Target: Omani:OMAN3
Distance: 5.8264% / 0.05826389
35.2 BedouinB
28.6 Dinka
28.6 Iranian_Fars
7.6 Gujarati

Target: Omani:OMAN1
Distance: 2.5269% / 0.02526850
58.6 BedouinB
20.2 BedouinA
13.4 Iranian_Fars
5.0 Dinka
2.8 Gujarati

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ11
Distance: 1.5042% / 0.01504152
37.4 Iranian_Fars
32.6 BedouinB
27.4 BedouinA
2.0 Gujarati
0.6 Dinka

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ9
Distance: 2.1168% / 0.02116775
47.6 Iranian_Fars
36.8 BedouinA
15.6 BedouinB

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ8
Distance: 2.1874% / 0.02187360
68.0 Iranian_Fars
21.2 BedouinA
10.8 BedouinB

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ7
Distance: 2.2582% / 0.02258155
59.0 Iranian_Fars
41.0 BedouinA

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ6
Distance: 2.7524% / 0.02752398
63.4 Iranian_Fars
36.6 BedouinA

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ4
Distance: 2.8651% / 0.02865088
57.8 Iranian_Fars
28.2 BedouinA
7.0 Gujarati
3.8 BedouinB
3.2 Dinka

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ3
Distance: 2.7060% / 0.02705972
59.0 Iranian_Fars
21.0 BedouinB
20.0 BedouinA

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ1
Distance: 3.4453% / 0.03445321
55.4 Iranian_Fars
44.6 BedouinA

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555915
Distance: 2.2098% / 0.02209809
68.4 BedouinB
31.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555913
Distance: 2.6715% / 0.02671457
60.2 BedouinB
31.8 Iranian_Fars
6.8 Gujarati
1.2 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555912
Distance: 3.0614% / 0.03061353
76.4 BedouinB
16.8 Iranian_Fars
6.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555910
Distance: 3.2375% / 0.03237549
61.8 BedouinB
37.0 Iranian_Fars
1.0 Gujarati
0.2 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555902
Distance: 2.0136% / 0.02013609
55.6 BedouinB
31.4 Iranian_Fars
11.4 Gujarati
1.6 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555901
Distance: 3.0337% / 0.03033668
62.0 BedouinB
32.8 Iranian_Fars
5.2 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555899
Distance: 2.5978% / 0.02597840
72.8 BedouinB
25.4 Iranian_Fars
1.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555874
Distance: 2.3955% / 0.02395483
73.6 BedouinB
16.6 Iranian_Fars
9.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555864
Distance: 3.6770% / 0.03676975
61.8 BedouinB
30.4 Iranian_Fars
7.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE52
Distance: 2.9406% / 0.02940650
91.8 BedouinB
4.4 Iranian_Fars
3.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE50
Distance: 3.3407% / 0.03340721
83.0 BedouinB
17.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE23
Distance: 4.0302% / 0.04030173
98.4 BedouinB
1.6 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE22
Distance: 2.7194% / 0.02719392
88.4 BedouinB
7.8 Iranian_Fars
3.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE21
Distance: 3.4737% / 0.03473746
85.8 BedouinB
12.8 Iranian_Fars
1.4 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE20
Distance: 3.8809% / 0.03880935
86.2 BedouinB
10.0 Iranian_Fars
3.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE17
Distance: 3.6969% / 0.03696910
81.8 BedouinB
12.6 Iranian_Fars
5.6 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE15
Distance: 3.8670% / 0.03867000
89.6 BedouinB
5.4 Gujarati
5.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE9
Distance: 3.1674% / 0.03167388
81.2 BedouinB
18.8 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE5
Distance: 3.7878% / 0.03787840
92.2 BedouinB
4.6 Iranian_Fars
3.2 Gujarati

Lucas
01-02-2022, 09:07 PM
Answer is simple, those heavy SSA admixed invdividuals were removed from the sheet.

When I tested original datasets some have 20% SSA or more:) But they are not included.

In G25 always some samples are removed from datasets.

In old Gedmatc calcs they use all samples for refs.

Leto
01-02-2022, 09:39 PM
Answer is simple, those heavy SSA admixed invdividuals were removed from the sheet.

When I tested original datasets some have 20% SSA or more:) But they are not included.

In G25 always some samples are removed from datasets.

In old Gedmatc calcs they use all samples for refs.
Lol :lol:
Someone added Yemeni_mixed to Dodecad, it's Negroid as shit. More than the Egyptian average.

Zanzibar
01-03-2022, 12:52 AM
Answer is simple, those heavy SSA admixed invdividuals were removed from the sheet.

When I tested original datasets some have 20% SSA or more:) But they are not included.

In G25 always some samples are removed from datasets.

In old Gedmatc calcs they use all samples for refs.

Why did they remove the individuals with a lot of SSA blood from the samples? They are very dishonest if they do that. Are they afraid of Yemenis being seen as heavily Negroid admixed?

Can you add those heavily negroid admixed Yemenis and other Peninsular Arabs to the G25 spreadsheet?

mashail
01-03-2022, 01:06 AM
Why did they remove the individuals with a lot of SSA blood from the samples? They are very dishonest if they do that. Are they afraid of Yemenis being seen as heavily Negroid admixed?

Can you add those heavily negroid admixed Yemenis and other Peninsular Arabs to the G25 spreadsheet?
Few Yemeni did mix with afro Yemeni it could be the reason for having high SSA blood even tho the majority of Arabians they hardly mix its a tribal thing.

Zanzibar
01-03-2022, 01:11 AM
Few Yemeni did mix with afro Yemeni it could be the reason for having high SSA blood even tho the majority of Arabians they hardly mix its a tribal thing.

Most Arabians even tribal ones still score a lot of ANA/Ancient North African admixture which is a Paleolithic indigenous African ancestry much closer to SSAs than to Eurasians though. Arabians got this ANA blood from their heavy Natufian ancestry. Many Yemenis would receive Dinka/East African blood from Cushitic admixture as a result of close geographical location to Horn of Africa like Somalia.

Zanzibar
01-03-2022, 03:08 AM
I just tested out those samples you sent me. I used only moderns as references because ancients is too troublesome for these many samples. I also left out the Levantines because they can't be modeled with the same modern groups that peninsular Arabs and Iraqis can(they need something more ANF). Couple things I've noted:

1. The Iraqis here are just like the Iraqis on the regular spreadsheet.
2. There does seem to be some Arabian individuals with far higher SSA than the samples currently on the sheet.
3. One of the Yemeni samples is over 40% South Asian, clear outlier.
4. EmiratiB is heavily Persian admixed with some South Asian ancestry too. EmiratiA is also admixed with those groups but to a much lesser extent. 2 Saudi samples and some Omani samples also have fairly high Iranian ancestry.
5. The highest SSA is found among an Omani individual(OMAN3).

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555946
Distance: 2.9324% / 0.02932362
89.6 BedouinB
9.2 BedouinA
1.2 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555944
Distance: 2.2056% / 0.02205576
41.0 Gujarati
35.2 BedouinB
23.0 BedouinA
0.8 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555942
Distance: 2.7605% / 0.02760451
72.0 BedouinB
19.8 BedouinA
7.4 Dinka
0.8 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555939
Distance: 2.2442% / 0.02244174
77.8 BedouinB
19.6 BedouinA
2.4 Dinka
0.2 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555933
Distance: 2.8599% / 0.02859886
89.8 BedouinB
5.2 Dinka
5.0 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555932
Distance: 3.5474% / 0.03547409
63.6 BedouinB
34.0 BedouinA
2.4 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555930
Distance: 1.7740% / 0.01773999
84.6 BedouinB
6.0 Dinka
5.4 BedouinA
4.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555929
Distance: 3.2140% / 0.03213998
86.4 BedouinB
7.6 Gujarati
5.4 BedouinA
0.6 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555928
Distance: 3.0011% / 0.03001130
91.6 BedouinB
5.6 Gujarati
2.8 BedouinA

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555957
Distance: 2.7002% / 0.02700155
50.8 BedouinB
36.2 BedouinA
13.0 Dinka

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555956
Distance: 2.6509% / 0.02650863
81.2 BedouinB
10.2 Iranian_Fars
5.8 BedouinA
2.6 Dinka
0.2 Gujarati

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555955
Distance: 3.2638% / 0.03263759
97.4 BedouinB
2.6 Dinka

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555954
Distance: 2.8348% / 0.02834794
93.0 BedouinB
5.2 BedouinA
0.8 Dinka
0.8 Gujarati
0.2 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555953
Distance: 2.8423% / 0.02842311
86.8 BedouinB
13.2 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555952
Distance: 3.4915% / 0.03491502
93.4 BedouinB
6.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555951
Distance: 3.4143% / 0.03414263
90.0 BedouinB
10.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555950
Distance: 2.9116% / 0.02911609
69.8 BedouinB
29.8 Iranian_Fars
0.4 Gujarati

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555949
Distance: 2.6299% / 0.02629894
82.0 BedouinB
18.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: Omani_o:OMAN2
Distance: 2.5978% / 0.02597790
47.2 Iranian_Fars
45.6 BedouinB
5.2 Dinka
2.0 Gujarati

Target: Omani:OMAN3
Distance: 5.8264% / 0.05826389
35.2 BedouinB
28.6 Dinka
28.6 Iranian_Fars
7.6 Gujarati

Target: Omani:OMAN1
Distance: 2.5269% / 0.02526850
58.6 BedouinB
20.2 BedouinA
13.4 Iranian_Fars
5.0 Dinka
2.8 Gujarati

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ11
Distance: 1.5042% / 0.01504152
37.4 Iranian_Fars
32.6 BedouinB
27.4 BedouinA
2.0 Gujarati
0.6 Dinka

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ9
Distance: 2.1168% / 0.02116775
47.6 Iranian_Fars
36.8 BedouinA
15.6 BedouinB

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ8
Distance: 2.1874% / 0.02187360
68.0 Iranian_Fars
21.2 BedouinA
10.8 BedouinB

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ7
Distance: 2.2582% / 0.02258155
59.0 Iranian_Fars
41.0 BedouinA

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ6
Distance: 2.7524% / 0.02752398
63.4 Iranian_Fars
36.6 BedouinA

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ4
Distance: 2.8651% / 0.02865088
57.8 Iranian_Fars
28.2 BedouinA
7.0 Gujarati
3.8 BedouinB
3.2 Dinka

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ3
Distance: 2.7060% / 0.02705972
59.0 Iranian_Fars
21.0 BedouinB
20.0 BedouinA

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ1
Distance: 3.4453% / 0.03445321
55.4 Iranian_Fars
44.6 BedouinA

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555915
Distance: 2.2098% / 0.02209809
68.4 BedouinB
31.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555913
Distance: 2.6715% / 0.02671457
60.2 BedouinB
31.8 Iranian_Fars
6.8 Gujarati
1.2 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555912
Distance: 3.0614% / 0.03061353
76.4 BedouinB
16.8 Iranian_Fars
6.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555910
Distance: 3.2375% / 0.03237549
61.8 BedouinB
37.0 Iranian_Fars
1.0 Gujarati
0.2 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555902
Distance: 2.0136% / 0.02013609
55.6 BedouinB
31.4 Iranian_Fars
11.4 Gujarati
1.6 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555901
Distance: 3.0337% / 0.03033668
62.0 BedouinB
32.8 Iranian_Fars
5.2 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555899
Distance: 2.5978% / 0.02597840
72.8 BedouinB
25.4 Iranian_Fars
1.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555874
Distance: 2.3955% / 0.02395483
73.6 BedouinB
16.6 Iranian_Fars
9.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555864
Distance: 3.6770% / 0.03676975
61.8 BedouinB
30.4 Iranian_Fars
7.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE52
Distance: 2.9406% / 0.02940650
91.8 BedouinB
4.4 Iranian_Fars
3.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE50
Distance: 3.3407% / 0.03340721
83.0 BedouinB
17.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE23
Distance: 4.0302% / 0.04030173
98.4 BedouinB
1.6 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE22
Distance: 2.7194% / 0.02719392
88.4 BedouinB
7.8 Iranian_Fars
3.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE21
Distance: 3.4737% / 0.03473746
85.8 BedouinB
12.8 Iranian_Fars
1.4 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE20
Distance: 3.8809% / 0.03880935
86.2 BedouinB
10.0 Iranian_Fars
3.8 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE17
Distance: 3.6969% / 0.03696910
81.8 BedouinB
12.6 Iranian_Fars
5.6 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE15
Distance: 3.8670% / 0.03867000
89.6 BedouinB
5.4 Gujarati
5.0 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE9
Distance: 3.1674% / 0.03167388
81.2 BedouinB
18.8 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE5
Distance: 3.7878% / 0.03787840
92.2 BedouinB
4.6 Iranian_Fars
3.2 Gujarati

Thanks for your feedback! BedouinA has around 6-7% SSA though so using them could depress the SSA blood in these new samples quite a bit:

Target: BedouinA
Distance: 2.0758% / 0.02075807
56.6 Levant_PPNB
14.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
14.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.0 Dinka
2.6 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 Yoruba


Even BedouinB seems to have minor African which could depress the SSA score a bit:

Target: BedouinB
Distance: 6.9670% / 0.06967050
76.2 Levant_PPNB
18.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
3.2 MAR_Taforalt
1.0 Dinka
1.0 ETH_4500BP

In my opinion, its better to use Yemenite_Mahra (they have the lowest amount of African) and Samaritans (yes they are Levantines, but a lot of Arabians also seem to have Levantine affinity) to gauge the SSA blood in the new Arabian samples in this case. ETH_4500BP is Mota, an ancient East African closest to modern day Hadza, hunter gatherers from Tanzania.

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555946
Distance: 2.6336% / 0.02633554
80.2 Yemenite_Mahra
15.8 Samaritan
3.4 Yoruba
0.6 ETH_4500BP

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555944
Distance: 1.8394% / 0.01839385
40.6 Gujarati
33.8 Yemenite_Mahra
22.0 Samaritan
2.2 ETH_4500BP
1.4 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555942
Distance: 2.3392% / 0.02339207
64.2 Yemenite_Mahra
25.2 Samaritan
8.4 Dinka
2.2 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555939
Distance: 2.3677% / 0.02367696
73.0 Yemenite_Mahra
20.2 Samaritan
5.6 Dinka
1.2 Iranian_Fars

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555933
Distance: 2.8235% / 0.02823481
81.4 Yemenite_Mahra
7.2 Samaritan
6.4 ETH_4500BP
3.4 Gujarati
1.6 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555932
Distance: 3.1768% / 0.03176758
56.6 Yemenite_Mahra
36.8 Samaritan
6.6 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555930
Distance: 2.2824% / 0.02282412
75.6 Yemenite_Mahra
12.0 Samaritan
7.2 Dinka
4.2 Iranian_Fars
1.0 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555929
Distance: 2.8081% / 0.02808078
73.8 Yemenite_Mahra
17.4 Samaritan
5.6 Gujarati
3.2 Dinka

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555928
Distance: 2.5314% / 0.02531450
77.8 Yemenite_Mahra
16.4 Samaritan
3.4 Gujarati
2.4 Dinka

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555957
Distance: 2.6878% / 0.02687848
52.6 Yemenite_Mahra
30.6 Samaritan
16.2 Dinka
0.6 Yoruba

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555956
Distance: 2.3780% / 0.02377981
66.8 Yemenite_Mahra
22.4 Samaritan
5.6 Iranian_Fars
3.2 Dinka
2.0 ETH_4500BP

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555955
Distance: 3.3775% / 0.03377487
86.8 Yemenite_Mahra
8.6 Samaritan
3.2 Dinka
1.4 Yoruba

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555954
Distance: 2.8762% / 0.02876177
81.2 Yemenite_Mahra
15.6 Samaritan
3.2 Dinka

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555953
Distance: 3.0951% / 0.03095144
81.0 Yemenite_Mahra
15.0 Iranian_Fars
4.0 Samaritan

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555952
Distance: 3.4648% / 0.03464752
76.6 Yemenite_Mahra
21.4 Samaritan
1.4 Dinka
0.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555951
Distance: 2.7452% / 0.02745168
77.6 Yemenite_Mahra
17.0 Samaritan
5.4 Iranian_Fars

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555950
Distance: 2.7537% / 0.02753736
63.6 Yemenite_Mahra
30.8 Iranian_Fars
4.2 Samaritan
1.4 Yoruba

Target: SaudiA:APPG7555949
Distance: 2.5964% / 0.02596431
71.6 Yemenite_Mahra
15.8 Iranian_Fars
12.2 Samaritan
0.4 ETH_4500BP

Target: Omani_o:OMAN2
Distance: 2.7028% / 0.02702849
52.0 Iranian_Fars
41.8 Yemenite_Mahra
3.2 Dinka
3.0 Yoruba

Target: Omani:OMAN3
Distance: 3.3848% / 0.03384822
28.8 Yemenite_Mahra
22.2 Yoruba
21.4 Iranian_Fars
11.2 Samaritan
8.6 Gujarati
7.8 ETH_4500BP

Target: Omani:OMAN1
Distance: 2.2587% / 0.02258717
59.0 Yemenite_Mahra
22.2 Iranian_Fars
11.0 Samaritan
7.8 Yoruba


Target: Iraqi:IRAQ11
Distance: 1.2944% / 0.01294383
43.4 Iranian_Fars
35.2 Yemenite_Mahra
17.4 Samaritan
2.4 Yoruba
1.2 ETH_4500BP
0.4 Gujarati


Target: Iraqi:IRAQ9
Distance: 1.7741% / 0.01774054
44.0 Iranian_Fars
38.2 Samaritan
14.4 Yemenite_Mahra
1.8 ETH_4500BP
1.0 Yoruba
0.6 Gujarati

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ8
Distance: 2.0273% / 0.02027272
64.4 Iranian_Fars
27.6 Samaritan
7.0 Yemenite_Mahra
0.8 Yoruba
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ7
Distance: 2.4324% / 0.02432444
59.4 Iranian_Fars
37.2 Samaritan
1.8 Yoruba
1.6 ETH_4500BP

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ6
Distance: 2.2759% / 0.02275888
60.2 Iranian_Fars
37.2 Samaritan
2.6 Yoruba

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ4
Distance: 2.5056% / 0.02505568
57.0 Iranian_Fars
22.6 Samaritan
7.8 Gujarati
7.2 Yemenite_Mahra
5.4 Yoruba


Target: Iraqi:IRAQ3
Distance: 2.9942% / 0.02994179
64.8 Iranian_Fars
26.6 Yemenite_Mahra
6.8 Samaritan
1.8 Yoruba

Target: Iraqi:IRAQ1
Distance: 3.2339% / 0.03233878
52.6 Iranian_Fars
44.4 Samaritan
3.0 ETH_4500BP

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555915
Distance: 2.6565% / 0.02656468
64.2 Yemenite_Mahra
34.4 Iranian_Fars
1.4 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555913
Distance: 2.5788% / 0.02578831
55.4 Yemenite_Mahra
38.2 Iranian_Fars
4.0 Gujarati
1.4 Yoruba
1.0 Dinka

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555912
Distance: 3.1329% / 0.03132865
71.4 Yemenite_Mahra
24.0 Iranian_Fars
4.0 Gujarati
0.6 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555910
Distance: 3.6753% / 0.03675259
56.6 Yemenite_Mahra
41.6 Iranian_Fars
1.8 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555902
Distance: 2.4225% / 0.02422536
49.8 Yemenite_Mahra
38.8 Iranian_Fars
8.2 Gujarati
3.2 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555901
Distance: 3.1229% / 0.03122911
55.0 Yemenite_Mahra
41.4 Iranian_Fars
2.4 Yoruba
1.2 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555899
Distance: 2.3654% / 0.02365400
69.4 Yemenite_Mahra
30.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555874
Distance: 2.7313% / 0.02731283
66.4 Yemenite_Mahra
25.8 Iranian_Fars
5.8 Gujarati
2.0 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiB:APPG7555864
Distance: 3.9571% / 0.03957087
57.0 Yemenite_Mahra
37.2 Iranian_Fars
5.2 Gujarati
0.6 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiA:UAE52
Distance: 3.6926% / 0.03692560
84.6 Yemenite_Mahra
14.4 Iranian_Fars
1.0 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiA:UAE50
Distance: 3.5484% / 0.03548354
79.4 Yemenite_Mahra
20.6 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE23
Distance: 4.6502% / 0.04650193
95.0 Yemenite_Mahra
4.6 Iranian_Fars
0.2 Gujarati
0.2 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiA:UAE22
Distance: 2.2340% / 0.02233993
83.4 Yemenite_Mahra
14.0 Iranian_Fars
1.4 Gujarati
1.2 Samaritan

Target: EmiratiA:UAE21
Distance: 3.7297% / 0.03729750
81.0 Yemenite_Mahra
18.6 Iranian_Fars
0.4 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiA:UAE20
Distance: 3.9397% / 0.03939716
81.2 Yemenite_Mahra
17.6 Iranian_Fars
1.2 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE17
Distance: 3.7116% / 0.03711603
74.6 Yemenite_Mahra
22.0 Iranian_Fars
2.2 Yoruba
1.2 Gujarati

Target: EmiratiA:UAE15
Distance: 4.3213% / 0.04321265
83.6 Yemenite_Mahra
13.8 Iranian_Fars
2.2 Gujarati
0.4 Yoruba

Target: EmiratiA:UAE9
Distance: 3.8353% / 0.03835299
77.2 Yemenite_Mahra
22.8 Iranian_Fars

Target: EmiratiA:UAE5
Distance: 4.0539% / 0.04053923
86.6 Yemenite_Mahra
13.2 Iranian_Fars
0.2 Gujarati

It seems that the SSA admixture in Arabians overall now increase when using Yemenite Mahra and Samaritans to model them.

I concurred with the rest of your observations made.

Btw another thing that I notice is that for many Yemenis and some Saudis that score a lot of Dinka or ETH_4500BP (Mota), it seems they have a lot of Horner ancestry which gives them high East African/Nilotic-related admixture.

I will post only Arabians with significant Horner admix (>5%). I use KEN_Pastoral_N, a Neolithic Pastoral sample from Kenya who are early Cushites and closest to modern Somalians, to represent this Horn African ancestry.

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555957
Distance: 2.4466% / 0.02446564
41.2 Yemenite_Mahra
32.4 Samaritan
19.8 KEN_Pastoral_N
5.4 Yoruba
1.2 Gujarati

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555942
Distance: 2.4101% / 0.02410053
58.6 Yemenite_Mahra
26.8 Samaritan
9.4 KEN_Pastoral_N
5.2 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555930
Distance: 2.2582% / 0.02258202
71.4 Yemenite_Mahra
11.0 Samaritan
8.6 KEN_Pastoral_N
5.8 Iranian_Fars
3.2 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555939
Distance: 2.2758% / 0.02275821
68.8 Yemenite_Mahra
19.4 Samaritan
8.0 KEN_Pastoral_N
2.8 Iranian_Fars
1.0 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555932
Distance: 3.2340% / 0.03233957
52.4 Yemenite_Mahra
38.0 Samaritan
7.4 KEN_Pastoral_N
2.2 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555933
Distance: 2.8771% / 0.02877145
79.0 Yemenite_Mahra
6.8 KEN_Pastoral_N
6.8 Samaritan
4.2 Gujarati
3.2 Yoruba

Target: SaudiB:APPG7555956
Distance: 2.4679% / 0.02467934
63.6 Yemenite_Mahra
21.6 Samaritan
7.0 Iranian_Fars
6.6 KEN_Pastoral_N
1.2 Yoruba

Target: Yemeni:APPG7555929
Distance: 2.8618% / 0.02861787
71.0 Yemenite_Mahra
17.8 Samaritan
6.0 Gujarati
5.2 KEN_Pastoral_N


Target: SaudiB:APPG7555954
Distance: 2.8839% / 0.02883862
78.6 Yemenite_Mahra
15.4 Samaritan
4.6 KEN_Pastoral_N
0.8 Iranian_Fars
0.6 Yoruba

Target: Omani:OMAN3
Distance: 3.7140% / 0.03714029
28.6 Yemenite_Mahra
25.8 Yoruba
22.4 Iranian_Fars
9.2 Gujarati
9.0 Samaritan
5.0 KEN_Pastoral_N


There are going to be more incoming samples from this study so we might see even more elevated SSA and South Asian admixture in various Arabians and other Near Eastern groups.

Roy
01-03-2022, 09:54 AM
Quite likely.