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Lioncourt
12-31-2021, 09:05 AM
Borreby perhaps?

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Tooting Carmen
12-31-2021, 09:38 AM
Baltid?

PhenotypeMaster
12-31-2021, 10:06 AM
Transgender.

cass
12-31-2021, 10:07 AM
CM

chociprasa
12-31-2021, 10:36 AM
Alpinid

cass
12-31-2021, 11:00 AM
Alpinid

Alpinid per se should be dark pigmented and have higher eye socket

Hektor12
12-31-2021, 11:11 AM
:cool:

chociprasa
12-31-2021, 11:40 AM
Alpinid per se should be dark pigmented and have higher eye socket

By that definition noone short of Olivia Cooke could be considered Alpine. The brow ridge/eyes are also most likely inflicted from Wolff's law (ie being a boxer) as I've said before, not from innate robusticity, but craniometrically she's predominantly Alpine (and Alpines can sometimes have melerated/hazel eyes like her). Compare her side profile with these:

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cass
12-31-2021, 11:55 AM
By that definition noone short of Olivia Cooke could be considered Alpine. The brow ridge/eyes are also most likely inflicted from Wolff's law (ie being a boxer) as I've said before, not from innate robusticity, but craniometrically she's predominantly Alpine (and Alpines can sometimes have melerated/hazel eyes like her). Compare her side profile with these:

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Deniker's "Occidental" race (later called Alpinid) was described as dark pigmented. Some other authors also included light pigmented fractions, what is misleading.
Second guy is evidently CE Laponoid not Alpinid proper. Look at textbook example https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?357176-Prof-Dr-Matthias-Biebl-Austrian-surgeon

cass
12-31-2021, 12:03 PM
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BTW I do not think she is brachycephalic what is crucial and decisive to determine CM type

cass
12-31-2021, 12:24 PM
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AFAIK this is Swiss Subnordid Schlaginhaufen O., Anthropologia Helvetica, 1947

Norb
12-31-2021, 01:08 PM
Paleo

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 01:45 PM
Deniker's "Occidental" race (later called Alpinid) was described as dark pigmented. Some other authors also included light pigmented fractions, what is misleading.
Second guy is evidently CE Laponoid not Alpinid proper. Look at textbook example https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?357176-Prof-Dr-Matthias-Biebl-Austrian-surgeon

Thats all outdated shit, Lappid in Swiss and Berber Lappids... of course and Alpine is Armenoid + Lappid, while that British comedian wasnt metrical identical to a Med but an Orientalid

cass
12-31-2021, 01:58 PM
Thats all outdated shit, Lappid in Swiss and Berber Lappids... of course and Alpine is Armenoid + Lappid, while that British comedian wasnt metrical identical to a Med but an Orientalid

Thus spoke master of online pseudoscience.

btw. That Briton is clearly Jewish.

kevinmac
12-31-2021, 02:07 PM
Alpine+Borreby

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 02:12 PM
Thus spoke master of online pseudoscience.

btw. That Briton is clearly Jewish.

Thanks, but at least i m trying to keep myself updated.

Classification arent passifications, Jeff Bezos looks also pseudo Askhenazi.
Orientalid/ Arabid is also not too much different metrically to Nordic, while its extremly different to Mesolithic Ehg skulls from Crimea, so yeah its to a good degree pseudo science.

cass
12-31-2021, 02:25 PM
Thanks, but at least i m trying to keep myself updated.

Classification arent passifications, Jeff Bezos looks also pseudo Askhenazi.
Orientalid/ Arabid is also not too much different metrically to Nordic, while its extremly different to Mesolithic Ehg skulls from Crimea, so yeah its to a good degree pseudo science.

LOL updated by home invented theories,

No wonder it leads to classifying Semites as Keltic.

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 02:52 PM
LOL updated by home invented theories,

No wonder it leads to classifying Semites as Keltic.

I m not inventing any theories... i m just quoting other anthropologits, the book from Coon is online readable. A Snall Med could be Jewish, could be Austrian, metrically they are very similar.

Now craniometrics being able to change to some degree, similar to factor like facial to robustness can change other generations is maybe not what Coon would say, but sm that is almost intuitive if you look at some developements over time what happednd in Europe.

Also every Boxer, rugby player etc. is Cm influenced- might just also be because of high T activity compared to book worms, and key board warriors but also because of broken/ swollen noses.

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 02:53 PM
LOL updated by home invented theories,

No wonder it leads to classifying Semites as Keltic.

I m not inventing any theories... i m just quoting other anthropologits, the book from Coon is online readable. A Snall Med could be Jewish, could be Austrian, metrically they are very similar.

Now craniometrics being able to change to some degree, similar to factor like facial to robustness can change other generations is maybe not what Coon would say, but sm that is almost intuitive if you look at some developements over time what happednd in Europe.

Also every Boxer, rugby player etc. is Cm influenced- might just also be because of high T activity compared to book worms, and key board warriors but also because of broken/ swollen noses.

cass
12-31-2021, 03:17 PM
I m not inventing any theories... i m just quoting other anthropologits, the book from Coon is online readable. A Snall Med could be Jewish, could be Austrian, metrically they are very similar.

Now craniometrics being able to change to some degree, similar to factor like facial to robustness can change other generations is maybe not what Coon would say, but sm that is almost intuitive if you look at some developements over time what happednd in Europe.

Also every Boxer, rugby player etc. is Cm influenced- might just also be because of high T activity compared to book worms, and key board warriors but also because of broken/ swollen noses.

Of course your are not inventing anything. With all seriousness you are quoting invented anthropo boards bullshit started by McCulloch, Skadi etc. This so called taxonomy is mix of 20 different authors and at least 10 systematic approaches.
At the end you classify Irish as N.Pontids.

Arūnas
12-31-2021, 03:32 PM
Paleo

Reggae Rocker

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 04:23 PM
Of course your are not inventing anything. With all seriousness you are quoting invented anthropo boards bullshit started by McCulloch, Skadi etc. This so called taxonomy is mix of 20 different authors and at least 10 systematic approaches.
At the end you classify Irish as N.Pontids.

i was quoting Coon mainly on what i said here and modern anthropologts literature which are excesible on researhgate. I also dont know why Bunak North pontid type is less valid than Czekanowski or Michalski terms like Armenoid- Lappid mixture (Alpine), because you are almost proving with your intervention with the British Comedian hardly would work in facial details. I never claimed though any of those phenotype terms are 100 % valid or arent questionable- modern or later invented. I actually said some big picture dynamics werent answered fully by anthropologist and still cant today.

cass
12-31-2021, 04:40 PM
i was quoting Coon mainly on what i said here and modern anthropologts literature which are excesible on researhgate. I also dont know why Bunak North pontid type is less valid than Czekanowski or Michalski terms like Armenoid- Lappid mixture (Alpine), because you are almost proving with your intervention with the British Comedian hardly would work in facial details. I never claimed though any of those phenotype terms are 100 % valid or arent questionable- modern or later invented. I actually said some big picture dynamics werent answered fully by anthropologist and still cant today.


Its good you can see lack of consistency of your logic. Mentioned systems are basin on different concepts of race- geographical, typological, statistical etc. So should not be used interchangeably.

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 04:54 PM
Its good you can see lack of consistency of your logic. Mentioned systems are basin on different concepts of race- geographical, typological, statistical etc. So should not be used interchangeably.

Those systems should be based on some kind of reality, not science fiction, also everything that is measurable is also comparable, especially data by different anthropologists.

cass
12-31-2021, 05:01 PM
Those system should be based on some kind of reality, not science fiction, also everything that is measurable is also comparable, especially data by different anthropologists.

Theoretically. The concept of the constancy of anthropological features (the base of typological approach) was clearly wrong.

Lioncourt
12-31-2021, 05:17 PM
I disagree about her being Alpine, not because of pigmentation but because of developed browridge and cheekbones, her robustness is comparable to that of early modern human reconstructions in Europe.

Immanenz
12-31-2021, 06:00 PM
A phenotype (aka look) you easily find in Centraleurope, thats my classifcation.

She isnt brachy, but Borreby would be a brachy Cm