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Arūnas
01-06-2022, 11:05 AM
that peace loving Putin


A six-nation Russia-led military alliance has agreed to send peacekeeping troops to Kazakhstan at the request of the country's embattled leader as he declared a nationwide state of emergency and accepted his government's resignation amid protests

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/troops-protesters-clash-almaty-main-square-kazakhstan-shots-heard-2022-01-06/
https://www.newsweek.com/kazakhstan-president-asks-russia-led-military-alliance-help-amid-protests-1666033


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia - reminds me of this

Arūnas
01-06-2022, 11:13 AM
https://youtu.be/7mrVwyREwkg

Arūnas
01-06-2022, 11:39 AM
https://youtu.be/8iE_PqI7xiU

Ion Basescul
01-06-2022, 11:46 AM
Cunts as usual

Nomadian90'
01-06-2022, 12:24 PM
I wonder what really happened there. And who is behind the Kazakh majdan? Are the Kazakhs themselves? It is doubtful that citizens will be able to organize themselves. As history shows, in such situations the provocateur is always someone from the outside. There are opinions that Turkey. Others say the USA. If there is a severe war there, it will be on plus of NATO and Ukraine, because Russia will involve its troops in Kazakhstan. More dead bodies, more chaos. For what? Because gas is expensive, because poverty? And why is there no organized coup of citizens in many countries where the police are persecuting people who do not want sanitary segregation with truncheons, gas or with the use of dogs, as recently in the Netherlands? Why is there no maidan, only in countries where the rulers of the world are fighting with others for their influence? In my opinion, the situation in Kazakhstan is the work of an from out.

Ion Basescul
01-06-2022, 12:27 PM
I wonder what really happened there. And who is behind the Kazakh majdan? Are the Kazakhs themselves? It is doubtful that citizens will be able to organize themselves. As history shows, in such situations the provocateur is always someone from the outside. There are opinions that Turkey. Others say the USA. If there is a severe war there, it will be on plus of NATO and Ukraine, because Russia will involve its troops in Kazakhstan. More dead bodies, more chaos. For what? Because gas is expensive, because poverty? And why is there no organized coup of citizens in many countries where the police are persecuting people who do not want sanitary segregation with truncheons, gas or with the use of dogs, as recently in the Netherlands? Why is there no maidan, only in countries where the rulers of the world are fighting with others for their influence? In my opinion, the situation in Kazakhstan is the work of an outsider.

Considering that there are now voices from people in Putin's party calling to annex Kazakhstan, it's not really difficult to see who orchestrated this. It is indeed the work of an outsider.

Nomadian90'
01-06-2022, 12:34 PM
Considering that there are now voices from people in Putin's party calling to annex Kazakhstan, it's not really difficult to see who orchestrated this. It is indeed the work of an outsider.

He would have given himself a problem. NATO on the border with Ukraine. It's hot in Belarus, and here is the third front in Kazakhstan?

SilverKnight
01-06-2022, 12:45 PM
Russia is being attacked on all sides, so they won't say no to this request..

Ion Basescul
01-06-2022, 01:13 PM
He would have given himself a problem. NATO on the border with Ukraine. It's hot in Belarus, and here is the third front in Kazakhstan?

He needs a conflict and an enemy to divert the attention from real problems at home.

Arūnas
01-06-2022, 01:27 PM
Russia is being attacked on all sides, so they won't say no to this request..

fully agree, poor Russia, just look at its size and population density

PAGANE
01-06-2022, 01:30 PM
Kazakhstan's problem is geography.
It is located between Russia and China. How convenient it is to destabilize a country that is among your great enemies. And we all know who in the world has a habit of making "color revolutions," destabilizing countries, and then destroying them through wars. Kazakhstan is a huge territory with huge natural resources. The timing is accurate, you hit the other end when your enemy is concentrated in Ukraine.
The bad thing about countries like Kazakhstan is that they become a battleground between the big players on the chessboard and they take it away. Videos have appeared in which, at first glance, "peaceful protesters" steal mortars and use them as professionals. It reminds me of Syria. It doesn't matter who is good or who is bad. Everyone chooses. In the end, the losers are the people. The common people. And don't think that this is a one-sided dictator's side. Nursultan played with both sides. The largest oil company is Tengizchevroil, which is owned by Chevron (50%) and ExxonMobile (25%). Now, with the impending rapprochement of Russia and China, and most likely India, this is a deadly threat to US interests, and they will not allow this to happen easily. They will create tensions on the borders of China and Russia. They start with Kazakhstan.

SilverKnight
01-06-2022, 01:43 PM
fully agree, poor Russia, just look at its size and population density

When you just wanna drink Vodka, shoot guns in Siberia and not have babies you get low density population.

Incal
01-06-2022, 02:04 PM
Interesting...

Lemminkäinen
01-06-2022, 03:13 PM
People in Kazakhstan are angry because the elite robs oil money. I understand Putin and his reasons to send military to Kazakhstan.

Nomadian90'
01-06-2022, 06:31 PM
Gaddafi invested in oil profits in citizens, and he received an armed coup anyway, dead and civil war.

Aldaris
01-06-2022, 08:44 PM
that peace loving Putin


A six-nation Russia-led military alliance has agreed to send peacekeeping troops to Kazakhstan at the request of the country's embattled leader as he declared a nationwide state of emergency and accepted his government's resignation amid protests

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/troops-protesters-clash-almaty-main-square-kazakhstan-shots-heard-2022-01-06/
https://www.newsweek.com/kazakhstan-president-asks-russia-led-military-alliance-help-amid-protests-1666033


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia - reminds me of this

It's actually the very opposite of that. The Soviet, Polish, Hungarians, etc. troops were invading us back then since they wanted to stop Dubček's and Svoboda's reforms, which the Soviets and their pals didn't like since they wanted to hold us tightly to them. They weren't invited by anyone, they were all outright invaders. That Tokayev guy wants the rioters to be taken in place by Russians by his own request. And most of the country gave them welcome.

gixajo
01-07-2022, 09:53 AM
People in Kazakhstan are angry because the elite robs oil money. I understand Putin and his reasons to send military to Kazakhstan.

And what do you think is the priority?

1- Maintain the peace
2-Control the oil
3- Maintain as ally a buffer state
4- The 3 in equal measure

catgeorge
01-07-2022, 09:57 AM
Democrats in power means war basically - look what Obama did to Syria and Libya causing refugees by the plenty that indigenous European are forced to love every day. Thats thanks to Obama and Democrats.

These people are so useless when they evacuated out of Iraq few months ago they left hundreds of Ameircans behind...

Lemminkäinen
01-07-2022, 09:59 AM
And what do you think is the priority?

1- Maintain the peace
2-Control the oil
3- Maintain as ally a buffer state
4- The 3 in equal measure

5- Being scared of a succesful uprising, because also the Russian elite robs oil money 🙂

black hole
01-07-2022, 10:20 AM
I do not welcome any invasion. Enough

Arūnas
01-07-2022, 12:00 PM
fully agreed blackhole:

After the Bolsheviks took power in Russia in 1917, many areas historically populated by Kazakhs were hived off to the Soviet Russian regions of Altai Krai, Omsk, Novosibirsk, Tyumen, and Astrakhan. Even the first capital of Soviet Kazakhstan, Orenburg, was incorporated into Russia in 1925 because of a border change.

Now, years after the fall of the Soviet Union, many Kazakh believe their land is again under threat.

https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-land-sale-protests-unearth-opposition/27704517.html

and in Russian


это капец
"Чемодан – вокзал – Россия!": Казахи захотели забрать Оренбург, Омск и Алтай ==>>> https://tsargrad.tv/experts/chemodan-vokzal-rossija-kazahi-zahoteli-zabrat-orenburg-omsk-i-altaj_315751

gixajo
01-07-2022, 01:50 PM
5- Being scared of a succesful uprising, because also the Russian elite robs oil money 🙂

Local elites are also an important factor in the geopolitical game, they share power with the state, and on many occasions they even have more influence than the state or they directly direct state policies.

If the interests of the state and the elites coincide, the path is clear to all.:)

The message is clear: this area is under our influence, and we are not going to let anyone take our influence away. We don't want another Ukrainia at our back door.

Colonel Frank Grimes
01-07-2022, 04:57 PM
There is always a story within the story.

Anaximander
01-07-2022, 05:20 PM
Westerners be like......
https://i.imgur.com/dT2SkCf.jpg

Arūnas
01-07-2022, 05:42 PM
Westerners be like......
https://i.postimg.cc/sxFN7Y2Q/awp.jpg

that one has Shoygu nose acutally, baba yaga nose

Jehan
01-07-2022, 08:10 PM
Considering that there are now voices from people in Putin's party calling to annex Kazakhstan, it's not really difficult to see who orchestrated this. It is indeed the work of an outsider.

Whole kazakhstan or just the one populate by russians?

I don't know perfectly the history of the region but i don't get how they can acheive to justify the annexion of the country.

sevruk
01-08-2022, 04:45 PM
https://i.ibb.co/4M8Mdw2/20220108-204601.jpg (https://ibb.co/Cvbv2p6)

Anaximander
01-10-2022, 04:33 PM
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Anaximander
01-10-2022, 04:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/U2qLZZU.png

Nomadian90'
01-11-2022, 06:37 PM
Now it can be seen that Kazakhstan is a repeat of the Maidan in Ukraine or Syria or Libya.
The protesters have sharp weapons and rifles right away, they are handing weapon from cars bags they are well organized and they are killing soldiers during protests.
Maybe the CIA and MI6 have a role to play in this?
And an interesting fact: If Kazakhstan moves from russian influence to american influence, it will block the New Silk Road and plunder many valuable raw materials, including 40% of the world's uranium extraction. And, not without significance, the yankee rockets from Kazakhstan can reach Moscow in seven minutes! What would Putin's interest in this maidan? Nothing!

Jehan
01-12-2022, 12:19 PM
Maybe the CIA and MI6 have a role to play in this?



Some people say it's the americans due to isolate russia, some others it's the islamists (with the help of american), some even said it's russian who want to scare the kazak oligarchy to keep them as close ad submissive as possible.

Really curious to know who is behind it. Because there is obviously someone. Protest doesn't end in behad of policemen and gunfight after two days.

PAGANE
01-12-2022, 12:47 PM
There are severed heads, handing out weapons from the trunks of cars and somehow "strange" demonstrators skillfully handle these weapons, attempts to invade military schools, killing one of the officers in charge of one of them, killing a famous Kazakh film director. Who prepares jihadists and terrorists we all know? Who benefits from a troubled border area with Russia and China?
The chaos of the post-Soviet space has always had several goals: economic closeness - mastering resources so that they are not exploited by Russia; further strategic - the economic presence to organize contractual military relations, bases, joint training, participation in alliances, etc. Chaos in neighboring republics forces Russia to urgently address security issues around its borders. Not to ask NATO and the United States about global security, not to redistribute spheres of influence and not to seek interests in Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and parts of Asia. There is no better time for problems in Kazakhstan than when Russia is waiting for a response from the United States to NATO and Ukraine. Why ?! First, because Kazakhstan to the north and northwest borders Russia with more than 7,000 kilometers of common border. Second, Kazakhstan has 26 uranium deposits, the country has 12% of the world's reserves and is the largest exporter of uranium, a raw material that has risen in price in recent years, especially since China decided to build many nuclear power plants. Third, the Baikonur Cosmodrome is located in Kazakhstan. Russia has a lease agreement for Baikonur until 2050. The city of Baikonur itself has a temporary status of subordination to the Russian Federation, there is Russian law, the mayor is not elected, but appointed by the presidents of the two countries - Russia and Kazakhstan. This is an object of importance for Russia's national security, since only from there are spacecraft and satellites launched into geostationary orbit. So it is quite logical for Russia to strain significantly in an attempt to chaotic Kazakhstan ...
Today, there is no country in the post-Soviet space that has not experienced mass protests and coup attempts. The United States is very well invading the region, where due to the low standard of living of the population, due to nepotism and cronyism of greedy elites, it is easy to provoke riots, velvet revolutions and rough squares. We have witnessed four color revolutions every two years for the last 20 years, and one third of young people in the former Soviet republics earn their living in non-governmental organizations sponsored by foreign interests. We must also acknowledge the truth that there is no democracy in these countries. , there are some power clans and almost lifelong authoritarian leaders practicing crude and ugly imitation of democratic processes. In fact, working with authoritarian regimes has never been a problem for Western democracies. The problem is if the mode is not dedicated to external pressure. The President of Kazakhstan has begun rapprochement with China, Russia and Uzbekistan on the development of a strategic transport corridor, part of the New Silk Road project. Trying to resolve the economic crisis in the country, Tokayev made a number of claims against British and American investors and concessionaires in the oil and gas industry such as Shell, Chevron, BP, etc., and distributed some fields to Chinese concessionaires. On top of that, the President of Kazakhstan has stated that he will build a nuclear power plant and is already discussing this with Rosatom. The triggers for the Maidan are easy to find. The IMF estimates that Kazakhstan's oil subsidies are about $ 13 billion a year, two and a half times the average for emerging economies. As early as 2018, the government in Kazakhstan had decided to liberalize the prices of LPG in stages and from January 1, 2022 it will be sold entirely at stock exchange prices. At the same time, the minimum wage in Kazakhstan until the beginning of this year was less than $ 100. And in the last few years, the national currency has depreciated four times. Economic crises enable China to gain influence by providing a possible way out through investment and long-term commitment. The Western factor does not like this.