Classify former Mexican president, Ernesto Zedillo Ponce de León

[BlackBeastofArgh]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QOILVDzfDMM/V1qJo27d9lI/AAAAAAAAAB8/K35Zxi0RSWMq1YT67vuILh8MjATqM0yhwCLcB/s1600/zedillo.jpg https://www.biografiasyvidas.com/biografia/z/fotos/zedillo.jpg https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/sites/default/files/N-A8-EU180519-3_DrupalMainImagenVertical.var_1558165656.jpg https://www.animalpolitico.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Matanza_Zedillo-2.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKTWoxrWkAAUSjY.jpg

[Favilla]

gracile med + little armenoid/native, mestizo 90% european

[Tooting Carmen]

Looks Southern French/Northern Italian mixed with some Amerindian.

[Alexandro]

I see no mixture on his face, although he def has some.

[axel.aleman]

Gracile Med + Pueblid, Harnizo

[BlackBeastofArgh]

gracile med + little armenoid/native, mestizo 90% european

Interesting classification. I agree that he looks a bit Armenoid/Dinaric, but I would suspect it's rather pseudo-Armenoid/Dinaric, given the aquiline noses that some types of Amerindians can have. However, now I am wondering if Mexicans might have picked up an Armenoid component from Sephardic Jews fleeing persecution in Early Modern Spain. I wonder if that also might explain certain Middle-Eastern-looking Mexicans like this Durango-born politician (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?357693-Classify-Mexican-politician-Manuel-Espino-Barrientos-(and-where-else-can-he-pass-)), who looks exotic for most European countries yet doesn't really have any traits that I would consider Amerindian.

Going back to Zedillo, I would suspect that he does indeed have some Amerindian, since his father was a mechanic, so the Zedillo Ponce de León family was definitely not of the traditional elite class. I also assume that he is predominately descended from colonial elements (i.e., old-stock Iberian settlers and indigenous Amerindians) rather than later immigrant groups, since Zedillo is an old spelling of his surname that, according to the names and surnames page of the Spanish National Institute of Statistics (https://www.ine.es/widgets/nombApell/index.shtml), doesn't even exist in Spain today (although the variant Cedillo does). His second surname, Ponce de León, does exist in Spain, but a lot of the first Spanish families in Mexico had multipart surnames, e.g., Gómez del Campo, so his having a surname following that pattern is a strong indication of colonial roots.

[BlackBeastofArgh]

I see no mixture on his face, although he def has some.

So are you saying that he could pass in Spain as a local?

[Alexandro]

So are you saying that he could pass in Spain as a local?

Sure

[Xacal]

Castizo

[BlackBeastofArgh]

Here's a pic of him from when he was very young. Sorry about the bad resolution.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6dT4zKWUAIzYVp.jpg

[Favilla]

that's it!!! that's why i wrote armenoid/native, it's really impossible to know if that nose comes from one or the other... it's probably that it comes from the second, but european ancestry could have brought a little of that armenoid part. In other sense, he could pass as spanish, french or italian, maybe in an exotic way, but people like this could exist in these countries.