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sevruk
01-11-2022, 05:51 PM
https://lentv24.ru/media/photos/50089.jpg
https://img.prosports.kz/news/content//202005/28_9c6c5c5184dc2485e4143056032e73d1.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/aleksandr_vlasov/

Jana
01-11-2022, 09:33 PM
Neo Danubian with some Nordid influence. Looks like typical Slavo-Finnic northern Russian to me.

Russki
01-11-2022, 09:39 PM
Neo Danubian with some Nordid influence. Looks like typical Slavo-Finnic northern Russian to me.

Lower half of his face is not rounded to be Neo-Danubian.

https://sun9-57.userapi.com/impg/POkZzYH4SyUTIKGDjQa0w1n3BGEz1TOFibgiOQ/tQ1seEBG5Yw.jpg?size=640x800&quality=96&sign=2f10acc79d0c92b561e37164c1967016&type=album

Jana
01-11-2022, 09:46 PM
Lower half of his face is not rounded to be Neo-Danubian.

https://sun9-57.userapi.com/impg/POkZzYH4SyUTIKGDjQa0w1n3BGEz1TOFibgiOQ/tQ1seEBG5Yw.jpg?size=640x800&quality=96&sign=2f10acc79d0c92b561e37164c1967016&type=album

He has very low weight because he's a pro cyclist, keep that in mind.

Russki
01-11-2022, 10:14 PM
He has very low weight because he's a pro cyclist, keep that in mind.

I forgot to ask, how do you classify dolichocephals as predominantly Neo-Danubian?

https://sun9-57.userapi.com/impg/6-D6Ku9c65zZX30hDewMV6-ZPPSK6ObBPQDcEg/nBp7z_UrRuk.jpg?size=1080x1350&quality=96&sign=710561581cb0c9b7975b4b646718d6fd&type=album

Let's read the description of the type.

https://sun1-25.userapi.com/impg/1E7xWRV9K70vNFUZ3PllqnlNGow5t00Z1PMNQg/UwzO_WGjlsY.jpg?size=622x782&quality=96&sign=0b439fd3b257005d9a71c94d92b039f5&type=album

>Became more populous during the last centuries, increasing brachycephaly in Russia

It was written in the early 20 century when average cephalic index in Russia was 85 (hyperbrachycephalic).

Today the average is 80, the type became dramatically less numerous in favor of Nordid.

Immanenz
01-11-2022, 10:17 PM
he is visible broad headed

that Russian has a Cephalix Index of 84

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/PSM_V53_D752_Great_russian_with_cephalic_index_84. 2.png

Anyway- Op fits the East Baltic spectrum of Coon with more Nordid tendencies

Russki
01-11-2022, 10:41 PM
he is visible broad headed

that Russian has a Cephalix Index of 84

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/PSM_V53_D752_Great_russian_with_cephalic_index_84. 2.png

He has a thick hair on the back of his head.

You don't see his skull properly.

Jana
01-12-2022, 08:29 AM
I forgot to ask, how do you classify dolichocephals as predominantly Neo-Danubian?

https://sun9-57.userapi.com/impg/6-D6Ku9c65zZX30hDewMV6-ZPPSK6ObBPQDcEg/nBp7z_UrRuk.jpg?size=1080x1350&quality=96&sign=710561581cb0c9b7975b4b646718d6fd&type=album

Let's read the description of the type.

https://sun1-25.userapi.com/impg/1E7xWRV9K70vNFUZ3PllqnlNGow5t00Z1PMNQg/UwzO_WGjlsY.jpg?size=622x782&quality=96&sign=0b439fd3b257005d9a71c94d92b039f5&type=album

>Became more populous during the last centuries, increasing brachycephaly in Russia

It was written in the early 20 century when average cephalic index in Russia was 85 (hyperbrachycephalic).

Today the average is 80, the type became dramatically less numerous in favor of Nordid.

That's because he has Nordid influence as well. Reduction of CI is observed trend all over eastern Europe.

Russki
01-12-2022, 08:52 AM
That's because he has Nordid influence as well. Reduction of CI is observed trend all over eastern Europe.

I don't care about this particular dude. In general, fixation on Neo-Danubians should be shading away.

https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/images/typologia/berti/ci-euopa2.jpg

Jana
01-12-2022, 08:55 AM
I don't care about this particular dude. In general, fixation on Neo-Danubians should be shading away.

He is not particulary facially Nordid, sorry. It's secondary influence in him. And stone age maps don't matter much in 21st century when many young people have longer skulls than their parents or grandparents.

Russki
01-12-2022, 09:06 AM
He is not particulary facially Nordid, sorry. It's secondary influence in him. And stone age maps don't matter much in 21st century when many young people have longer skulls than their parents or grandparents.

Eastern CM facially.

https://sun9-70.userapi.com/impg/AnfyUD1kIfNah8EOf9mUYcyvEsL6cP6_YE-y3g/2oDldfbT3lA.jpg?size=640x800&quality=96&sign=5ea391536f11b030338d3666b06b4a48&type=album

There are still many genuine Neo-Danubians today and he is just not one of them.

travv
01-12-2022, 09:57 AM
he is visible broad headed

that Russian has a Cephalix Index of 84

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/PSM_V53_D752_Great_russian_with_cephalic_index_84. 2.png

Anyway- Op fits the East Baltic spectrum of Coon with more Nordid tendencies

There were already guys on the forum who were sure that the convex back of the head = dolichocephaly.

Those unbiased legendary classifiers could only based one profile photo to determine СI.

Russki definitely wants to beat their fame.


He has a thick hair on the back of his head.

You don't see his skull properly.

Don't embarrass yourself. Just read what is dolichocephaly, brachycephaly and mesocyphaly.

Russki
01-12-2022, 10:30 AM
There were already guys on the forum who were sure that the convex back of the head = dolichocephaly.

Those unbiased legendary classifiers could only based one profile photo to determine СI.

Russki definitely wants to beat their fame.

OP already posted his frontal pictures where you can rate breadth of his head, I added his profile picture where you can rate length of his head. At most he can be mesocephalic, and most certainly NOT Neo-Danubian.


Don't embarrass yourself. Just read what is dolichocephaly, brachycephaly and mesocyphaly.

Thanks for the advice, Veteran Member from August 2020.

travv
01-12-2022, 11:07 AM
OP already posted his frontal pictures where you can rate breadth of his head, I added his profile picture where you can rate length of his head. At most he can be mesocephalic, and most certainly NOT Neo-Danubian.



Thanks for the advice, Veteran Member from August 2020.

Is this guy dolicho or brachy?

https://i.imgur.com/crEbMqf.png

Russki
01-12-2022, 11:12 AM
Is this guy dolicho or brachy?

https://i.imgur.com/crEbMqf.png

Post pictures from other angles.

Jana
01-12-2022, 11:14 AM
Eastern CM facially.

https://sun9-70.userapi.com/impg/AnfyUD1kIfNah8EOf9mUYcyvEsL6cP6_YE-y3g/2oDldfbT3lA.jpg?size=640x800&quality=96&sign=5ea391536f11b030338d3666b06b4a48&type=album

There are still many genuine Neo-Danubians today and he is just not one of them.

He seems overly gracile for CM (lacking rugged/robust features), but his features are not rounded because he is very fit and underweight as cyclists must be (many have issues with anorexia btw)
Never said he's Neo Danubian only, he does have Nordid influence.

He doesn't have CM features like prominent cheekbones or wide and short nose, or vertical forehead etc.

Jana
01-12-2022, 11:16 AM
So yeah, if Neo Danubian suunds too untermensch for you loool, than let's say he is Balto-Nordid (same thing anyway)

Russki
01-12-2022, 11:21 AM
So yeah, if Neo Danubian suunds too untermensch for you loool, than let's say he is Balto-Nordid (same thing anyway)

Neo Danubian is the closest to simple Baltid.

This site literally doesn't even separate them.

https://the-races-of-the-world.fandom.com/wiki/Baltid

travv
01-12-2022, 11:21 AM
Post pictures from other angles.

From what angle? Just a few posts ago you posted a profile photo of OP guy and claimed he is dolicho.

A little hint: unbiased classifiers claimed he is dolciho.

Russki
01-12-2022, 11:33 AM
From what angle? Just a few posts ago you posted a profile photo of OP guy and claimed he is dolicho.

A little hint: unbiased classifiers claimed he is dolciho.

OP posted only his frontal pictures.

I browsed his whole Instagram page to find a profile picture.

Art23
01-12-2022, 04:22 PM
Typical Russo-Baltid.

LorenzoSpitaleri
01-12-2022, 04:40 PM
Balto-Nordid with some CM Faelid.

sevruk
01-12-2022, 05:53 PM
he may be of Karelian origin, considering his place of birth