Tik-Tok sucks!

[Roy]

I know that my opinion is popular but still I wanted to make my statement.


I have (finally?) downloaded this app last December to understand what was the hype about and damn most of the content is lame & cringeworthy if not even downright harmful. After 15 minutes of watching random shit suggested to me from the get go I felt like my grey cells started dying. :picard1: About the only thing that I sometimes search there is connected to animals & art.

Over TikTok I prefer watching youtubers who roast TikTokers for their shitty content like penguinz0 or AugustTheDuck



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCxPAdcV1y8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPOTOrZNx7M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9yc8X16w8c&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66w9BiTebA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ddWKpGk0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HnwGh-phfA

[Graywolf]

I mean why do you both download and complain how silly it is? It is hard to understand people especially apricity users if u dont like it dont use, if u dont like its users dont talk to them. You even watch yt videos about them then it means it attracs u.

[Sarin]

Though a blessing in disguise in a way for me .

[TheMaestro]

I love tik tok, the thing is first weeks Tik Tok actually looks after what you like and later after a month it suggest and gives you 80% of videos you like.

My feed consists of big boobs, pranks and football/ice hockey.

[Zhulta]

I dont use it often, my suggestions are mostly just seemingly random shit or random tiktoks from austria.

[Incal]

TikTok is a great anthro tool and also a reflect of the times we are living now but you need to train the algorithm so it can show you what you want. Mine only shows me chinese women with ass, jokes, food and anthro stuff.

[Zhulta]

yeah i admit i also use it along with facebook to look up how foreign people or phenotypes look like.

[Roy]

I mean why do you both download and complain how silly it is? It is hard to understand people especially apricity users if u dont like it dont use, if u dont like its users dont talk to them. You even watch yt videos about them then it means it attracs u.

It is entertaining when someone roasts it. I wanted to check the app for myself and I already know it is pretty bad. It is not like I use it a lot anyway.

[Zhulta]

I think the tiktok algorithm just assumes you like to see things from your area and based on what you like, look or search for. The Algorithm might take a bit till it learns about your preferences. when you are on your mobile phone atleast if you click longer on a video there are options wher you can also select "not interested" or something similar, maybe then less garbage will be flooded in your recommended.

[Teutone]

its for adhd zoomers with a attention span of a gold fish

[Rumata]

Once, I followed a link to a tik-tok video. The five top videos suggested by tik-tok to me were vulgar teenagers trying to dance sexy. The subject that was absolutely unrelated to the video I watched.
AFAIK, it's a tool to idiotize.

[Incal]

I'm just going to show some examples of the wide variety of things you can find on TikTok if your algorithm is well trained...

Chinas con culo:

https://streamable.com/slwbnl

Anthro Stuff:

https://streamable.com/rttoew

https://streamable.com/ae5nf3

https://streamable.com/br6ga8

https://streamable.com/1umces

https://streamable.com/bi4e3b

https://streamable.com/b7f083

https://streamable.com/ki3k2e

Food:

https://streamable.com/avr8fu

https://streamable.com/ech8vf

https://streamable.com/blgjht

https://streamable.com/7aq3f0

Funny stuff (in my loarithm case, very anthro related)

https://streamable.com/mdjsd2

https://streamable.com/zzlirr

https://streamable.com/69r08q

https://streamable.com/ezftpm

https://streamable.com/y72xgf

https://streamable.com/tspc2j

And of course Khaby. If you don't know Khaby Lame you are not using TikTok:

https://streamable.com/vwsioy

[Ylla]

I will admit some comedy ones are funny, the creators are genuinely talented.

But it's mostly girls with their asses out or something racist.

[Roy]

I will admit some comedy ones are funny, the creators are genuinely talented.

But it's mostly girls with their asses out or something racist.

Most of the comedy there is though terribly unfunny.

[Arūnas]

weirdt
edit: emojis from chatbox don't work here

[Roy]

weirdt
edit: emojis from chatbox don't work here

Veljo, what is your opinion on TikTok?

[JamesBond007]

its for adhd zoomers with a attention span of a gold fish

:rotfl: ^ this man I never used it and never will. It looks like brain rot and a waste of time I could be reading ebooks or books instead. Books are not obsolete they were not obsolete when radio and television came out and they are still not obsolete with the internet. The internet may have once been conceived as a giant library but that is definitely not what it grew into. Zoomers are like I'll just google it or use wikipedia when they want to get 'serious' about info when not using tik tok etc.. meanwhile both are heavily censored and use algorithms to suppress certain information and wikipedia is pwned by big pharma and google is an ad company. Yeah, gee let me just trust an ad company and big pharma to spoon feed me the information they want seems legit without filtering it through what I read in books.:picard2:

[Hithaeglir]

I find it dire, it's most likely age related though, cause kids seem to love it otherwise.

[Roy]

I find it dire, it's most likely age related though, cause kids seem to love it otherwise.

I know a lot of adults who like it too though.

[Hithaeglir]

I know a lot of adults who like it too though.

Yeah maybe, i don't know what it is about it I find completely unappealing. I love Instagram though.

[Celestia]

I gave it a chance and quickly regretted it.

[Mixdguy17]

There's a lot of garbage content that u are gonna have to tolerate and skip when u first download the app, but tbh once the algorithm figures u out (which usually just takes a day or two) and u train it well, it will almost always only show u the kind of vids u want to see and it usually stops showing u the ones u don't.

So for me, I only get shown fun facts, scary videos, science and space videos, Videogame and comic book videos, and my type of comedy. I don't get shown annoying tik tok stars or dumb dances.

Once this happens, the app becomes highly addictive ngl.

[JamesBond007]

I gave it a chance and quickly regretted it.

All these newer platforms are made to me highly addictive. Mixdguy7 knows whatsup at least somewhat :


Once this happens, the app becomes highly addictive ngl.

These forums like apricity were around before apps and platforms really started being designed be totally psychologically addicting :



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDqoTDM7tio

[JamesBond007]

I know that my opinion is popular but still I wanted to make my statement.


I have (finally?) downloaded this app last December to understand what was the hype about and damn most of the content is lame & cringeworthy if not even downright harmful. After 15 minutes of watching random shit suggested to me from the get go I felt like my grey cells started dying. :picard1: About the only thing that I sometimes search there is connected to animals & art.

Over TikTok I prefer watching youtubers who roast TikTokers for their shitty content like penguinz0 or AugustTheDuck




I can't see how any sane person would use Tik Tok after reading the best selling book Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport honestly :



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_58A8Rh06k


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51kRgh8pI-L._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


]A New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Publishers Weekly, and USA Today bestseller

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Now, Newport gives us a name for this quiet movement, and makes a persuasive case for its urgency in our tech-saturated world. Common sense tips, like turning off notifications, or occasional rituals like observing a digital sabbath, don't go far enough in helping us take back control of our technological lives, and attempts to unplug completely are complicated by the demands of family, friends and work. What we need instead is a thoughtful method to decide what tools to use, for what purposes, and under what conditions.

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[Insuperable]

Over TikTok I prefer watching youtubers who roast TikTokers for their shitty content like penguinz0 or AugustTheDuck]

This youtuber has some funny videos. This video kills me. Best part from 3:00 till 4:35.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBny8anHWw&t=161s

[Rumata]

Why would anyone want an algorithm to suggest him/her anything to watch in the first place?

[Incal]

These forums like apricity were around before apps and platforms really started being designed be totally psychologically addicting :

Didn't you say Psychology was a scam?

[Roy]

Why would anyone want an algorithm to suggest him/her anything to watch in the first place?

It works well for the most part on YouTube for me, comes in handy.

[Rumata]

It works well for the most part on YouTube for me, comes in handy.

What's the point when you can search and find just the same stuff? :D

[Roy]

What's the point when you can search and find just the same stuff? :D

There is a lot that I may not know of that is related to something that interests me or I may have no idea what to watch, listen to whatsoever too. Algorithms are used everywhere now anyway, especially if you accept cookies. If they know your gender they will not show up od should not show you an add for OB tampons too if you're a guy for instance. Even if you use AdBlock some online offers, adds will still show up from time to time.

[barnumandbailey]

I love tik tok, the thing is first weeks Tik Tok actually looks after what you like and later after a month it suggest and gives you 80% of videos you like.

My feed consists of big boobs, pranks and football/ice hockey.

A man of culture, I see. :thumb001:

[barnumandbailey]

its for adhd zoomers with a attention span of a gold fish

And if you aren't in a state of attention deficit prior to hopping on the app, you will be after.

[Rumata]

There is a lot that I may not know of that is related to something that interests me or I may have no idea what to watch, listen to whatsoever too. Algorithms are used everywhere now anyway, especially if you accept cookies.
Now they try to make it impossible to browse some sites without accepting their cookies. I do accept them, but I remember that I was forced to do it. And I hate to be forced.

[Rumata]

By tracking ones preferences they try to create a digital copy of your personality that would help them to manipulate the real person (all persons).

[Zohor]

By tracking ones preferences they try to create a digital copy of your personality that would help them to manipulate the real person (all people).

It's not like most of mobile apps work like that, not at all:rolleyes:
Regarding manipulation, it's up to people if they get that easily manipulated or not, it's the same level as traditional adds you see on TV or on billboards

[Rumata]

It's not like most of mobile apps work like that, not at all:rolleyes:
Regarding manipulation, it's up to people if they get that easily manipulated or not, it's the same level as traditional adds you see on TV or on billboards
I don't know how many apps do that. I couldn't know it as many have a closed code too. But it's enough even a few of the popular ones.

Concerning manipulation, none is granted to avoid it, particularly if one is targeted all the time.
Concerning old methods, they weren't personized thus were less effective.

[Zohor]

I don't know how many apps do that. I couldn't know it as many have a closed code too. But it's enough even a few of the popular ones.

Concerning manipulation, none is granted to avoid it, particularly if one is targeted all the time.
Concerning old methods, they weren't personized thus were less effective.

Neither do I know how many apps do that but for sure many of them, this kind of trick is used commonly by businesses. Even this forum is being personalized, members create threads what others want to see, not something new, people who would have access to your posts(I remind you don't even need to be registered to see most of subfora) would just show you news which you find interesting and so on. It's still up to you if you would rely on this or not, if you will look for other sources out of curiosity or not. AI does the work some people don't really want to do it by hand, but if you want to you can still search for yourself without AI fitting to you.

Regarding shit tok, you can watch stuff you wanna watch but out of curiosity you can look for other ones when you feel bored, anyways when you enter an app you can see if they will track your history, just start reading rules each time you will pick your apps, nobody forces you to click accept without reading them really. In world of capitalism there are many other apps where you can have similar stuff but more fit into your preferences

[Tongio]

I have never downloaded tits thots but some of its radioactive content leaks to youtube, all can say is that aparently pedophilia is everyday more ok, where are these kids parents?

[Rumata]

Neither do I know how many apps do that but for sure many of them, this kind of trick is used commonly by businesses. Even this forum is being personalized, members create threads what others want to see, not something new, people who would have access to your posts(I remind you don't even need to be registered to see most of subfora) would just show you news which you find interesting and so on. It's still up to you if you would rely on this or not, if you will look for other sources out of curiosity or not. AI does the work some people don't really want to do it by hand, but if you want to you can still search for yourself without AI fitting to you.
Hm, I create threads I want to see first of all...
And I block ads so I miss that part of TA experience.


Regarding shit tok, you can watch stuff you wanna watch but out of curiosity you can look for other ones when you feel bored, anyways when you enter an app you can see if they will track your history, just start reading rules each time you will pick your apps, nobody forces you to click accept without reading them really. In world of capitalism there are many other apps where you can have similar stuff but more fit into your preferences
You know very well that rules are usually many pages of boring text. Who would waste so much time of his life to read them all???

Concerning capitalism, the competitive capitalism is going to its end. It's easy to prove: just try to compete with monsters like Amazon, Microsoft, Google etc or imagine such a competition.

[Zohor]

Hm, I create threads I want to see first of all...
And I block ads so I miss that part of TA experience.

Yeah, for sure adblock will work for some ads but from scanning your data, dunno



You know very well that rules are usually many pages of boring text. Who would waste so much time of his life to read them all???

If you want to spend much time in some app it's good to read it,


Concerning capitalism, the competitive capitalism is going to its end. It's easy to prove: just try to compete with monsters like Amazon, Microsoft, Google etc or imagine such a competition.

Unfortunatelly true, we skip to era of monopol and neofeudalism. It won't change the fact these methods most likely are going to be still in use

[Richmondbread]

People are still using til tok ?

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[Richmondbread]

I will admit some comedy ones are funny, the creators are genuinely talented.

But it's mostly girls with their asses out or something racist.I'm talented and creative

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[Roy]

Now they try to make it impossible to browse some sites without accepting their cookies. I do accept them, but I remember that I was forced to do it. And I hate to be forced.

Oh no, here you come again, your proud libertarian 'I hate be forced' = 'vaccines are evil' way of thinking.

[Rumata]

Suggesting you a food for thought is one of the first steps. Here are described next steps. It's from the page of Beppe Grillo, a politician, the founder of a big Italian party Five Star Movement:


What year are we talking about?

Rafael Yuste: It will be a gradual thing. The devices and applications that will allow us to record and decipher mental activity will come first. Let's talk about 10 years.

With headbands on your head? How?

Rafael Yuste: The first important applications can be, for example, for mental writing or for simultaneous translation. Imagine arriving in a country with a headband on your head: you think in your own language and speak in another language. And of course, since humanity is what it is, the first thing will be games and porn. And then, 10 years later, I believe that technologies will come to introduce information into the brain, which is increasingly difficult. And there will really be mental enhancement. If you want to finish the sentence you are thinking about, an algorithm will finish it for you, just like now as you write the algorithm automatically completes it for you.


Original text:

Di che anno stiamo parlando?

Rafael Yuste: Dipende. Sarà una cosa graduale. Arriveranno prima i dispositivi e le applicazioni che ci permetteranno di registrare e decifrare l’attività mentale. Parliamo di 10 anni.

Con delle fasce sulla testa? In che modo?

Rafael Yuste: Con cerchietti, con berretti o con caschi. Le prime applicazioni importanti possono essere, ad esempio, per la scrittura mentale o per la traduzione simultanea. Immagina di arrivare in un paese con un cerchietto in testa: pensi nella tua lingua e parli in un’altra lingua. E naturalmente, dal momento che l’umanità è quello che è, la prima cosa saranno i giochi e il porno. E poi, 10 anni dopo, credo che le tecnologie arriveranno a introdurre informazioni nel cervello, il che è sempre più difficile. E lì ci sarà davvero il potenziamento mentale. Se vuoi finire la frase a cui stai pensando, un algoritmo la finirà per te, proprio come ora mentre scrivi l’algoritmo la completa automaticamente per te.
https://beppegrillo.it/il-futuro-della-neurotecnologia-luomo-ibrido/

[JamesBond007]

Didn't you say Psychology was a scam?

Are you conflating psychology with psychiatry ? Anyway, psychology is a social science so it is a scam compared to say physics to a certain extent but nothing is black and white. There is so much fiction in modern social science and so much social science in modern fiction it is sometimes hard to keep them apart you can't say that about the king of all science physics. So, the New York Yankees is physics and the little leagues is psychology.

As far as psychiatry is concerned about 99.9% of psych diagnoses are fake diseases and the real ones such as Alzheimers don't even belong in the DSM to begin with but should belong to a seperate branch of medicine.

[Richmondbread]

Are you conflating psychology with psychiatry ? Anyway, psychology is a social science so it is a scam compared to say physics to a certain extent but nothing is black and white. There is so much fiction in modern social science and so much social science in modern fiction it is sometimes hard to keep them apart you can't say that about the king of all science physics. So, the New York Yankees is physics and the little leagues is psychology.

As far as psychiatry is concerned about 99.9% of psych diagnoses are fake diseases and the real ones such as Alzheimers don't even belong in the DSM to begin with but should belong to a seperate branch of medicine.

Psychology is not a scam. It's simply the study of human behavior. This is an objective measure.

[de Burgh II]

We live in decadent, culture-less modern society that is strongly involved in corporatism that seeks to undermine the populace with a breakdown in family values and intellectual growth. Globalization is only accentuating this process by bastardizing distinct cultures into third world, regressive shit holes. The prevalence and conveniences of modern technology is stifling cognitive growth and making people mentally inept zombies when it comes to daily affairs. Corporate greed and lack of traditional family values is enabling this regressive behavior to manifest and coalesce into a dysgenic abomination. Lowering the general population's iq that will have negative repercussions in the future if this dysgenic trend continues.

[Roy]

We live in decadent, culture-less modern society that is strongly involved in corporatism that seeks to undermine the populace with a breakdown in family values and intellectual growth. Globalization is only accentuating this process by bastardizing distinct cultures into third world, regressive shit holes. The prevalence and conveniences of modern technology is stifling cognitive growth and making people mentally inept zombies when it comes to daily affairs. Corporate greed and lack of traditional family values is enabling this regressive behavior to manifest and coalesce into a dysgenic abomination. Lowering the general population's iq that will have negative repercussions in the future if this dysgenic trend continues.

I think you're overly dramatic here but I can see the point.

[GDDR6]

Tiktoker sounds like an insult.

[Arūnas]

^^
Poles -the pioneers in that field
tik-tak

https://youtu.be/zv-_z51cnuM

[Roy]

^^
Poles -the pioneers in that field
tik-tak

https://youtu.be/zv-_z51cnuM

Pamiętam to. I remember this.

I feel old.

[laguieraloca]

I have never even had the app on my phone

[Petalpusher]

Lots of fun stuff and hilarious channels on tiktok, you just have to "heart" parsimoniously from the get go and sub the channels you like, or you get random thots twerking all the time. For example there s a channel i find amazing, deconstructing the idea we have of some animals, thinking they are all nice and cute, like rabbits or otters.

But usually you go from laugh, boner, laugh, swipe, boner, swipe. It can get confusing for your senses. It's stupid but entertaining everytime you have a couple of minutes to kill.