Should I do further DNA tests to discover my potential Jewish ancestry?

[Scandal]

I have done only myheritage so far and it says I am 5.6% Ashkenazi Jewish. However people say Myheritage - unlike 23andme - is not able to measure AJ ancestry accurately.
My vahaduo results from various calculators:
Eurogenes k13

Target: Universe
Distance: 3.3162% / 3.31617595 | R2P
82.8 Polish_Podlaskie
17.2 Jew_Italy

Eurogenes k13

Target: Universe
Distance: 2.4058% / 2.40576069 | R3P
71.2 Belarusian
15.1 Jew_Moldova
13.7 Swiss_Italian

Dodecadk12b

Target: Universe
Distance: 1.8290% / 1.82896028 | R2P
85.3 Polish_Mazovia
14.7 Morocco_Jew


Target: Universe
Distance: 0.8673% / 0.86729468 | R3P
72.6 Lithuanian
18.1 Sephardic_Jew
9.3 Sardinian

k15

Target: Universe(hungarian)
Distance: 1.8117% / 1.81172703 | R3P
52.4 Latvian
29.5 Pennsylvania_Dutch
18.1 Algerian_Jewish


Target: Universe(hungarian)
Distance: 2.8568% / 2.85679804 | R2P
88.8 Sorb_Lusatia
11.2 Jordanian

[Roy]

Why not? If you have some spare money, that's it.

[Scandal]

Universe_k13,28.69,39.52,11.43,3.62,13.02,2.30,0,0 ,0.4 8,0,0.23,0.72,0
Universe_k12b,2.79,0.59,1.99,0,25.09,50.44,0,0,3.9 6,0,15.14,0
Universe_k15,21.78,16.63,23.39,16.38,7.66,2.69,9.6 4,1.44,0,0,0,0,0,0.38,0

[Luke35]

Yes, it's time for more.

[Dunai]

This is your modeling based on my newest custom-made calculator, it seems very likely that you may have realistically even considerable Jewish ancestry (between 5-10%), the calculator percentages is just a modeling:

Target: Universe_k13
Distance: 3.5033% / 3.50329800 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.6 Eastcentral_European
30.6 Central_Baltic
18.8 Jew_(Ashkenazi)

[Dušan]

Universe_k13,28.69,39.52,11.43,3.62,13.02,2.30,0,0 ,0.4 8,0,0.23,0.72,0
Universe_k12b,2.79,0.59,1.99,0,25.09,50.44,0,0,3.9 6,0,15.14,0
Universe_k15,21.78,16.63,23.39,16.38,7.66,2.69,9.6 4,1.44,0,0,0,0,0,0.38,0

Seems you got a bit in ancient K13


Target: Universe_k13
Distance: 1.8991% / 1.89910734 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2524_ybp
29.5 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
22.1 MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
6.7 I1164_Israel_C_5950_ybp
3.4 ANI163_Bulgaria_Varna_EN3_6577_ybp
0.5 Pazyryk_IA_Be11

[Luke35]

If you decide to do another test, obviously the next question is, which test to choose: 23andMe or AncestryDNA?

AncestryDNA:
-Best data
-Solid estimate
-Jewish ancestry identification seems reliable.

23andMe:
-Arguably the best algorithm in the business. But this shows up mostly as accurate parsing of mixed ancestry, which is not necessarily the case for you.

-Rock solid Jewish ancestry identification. A relative of mine got exactly 1/4 Jewish, which is correct.

-Parental phasing, if a parent tests.

-Lower quality data

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My brother is doing 23andMe right now, he is 1/2 Jewish, 1/2 Hungarian (our father), so his result should be interesting.

All that said, my recommendation is AncestryDNA for you. That high quality data is very tempting, and I think you can trust that if you score Jewish, then it's legit.

[reboun]

No, GEDmatch and Vahaduo are sufficient, in my opinion.

[Figaro]

If your main interest is confirming Jewish AJ admix, 23andme would be the most solid suggestion.

[Cristiano viejo]

Go to the synagogue of your neighborhood and ask for conversion. It will be faster and cheaper.

[Scandal]

If your main interest is confirming Jewish AJ admix, 23andme would be the most solid suggestion.
Is AncestryDNA's algorithm slightly worse or significantly worse?

[Jana]

I agree Ancestry is a thing to chose, it's reliable when it comes to Jewish admixture. Plus they have best raw data on the market (23andme is terrible, even worse than MH), biggest user database and recently updated eastern European genetic groups. Btw I'll send you a PM related to this.

[Figaro]

Is AncestryDNA's algorithm slightly worse or significantly worse?

I have not tested any kits with ancestry, but perhaps a bit less good...better raw data apparently, though.

[Ion Basescul]

If you have a disproportionate amount of Jewish matches on GEDmatch, then that would confirm it.

[Roy]

If your main interest is confirming Jewish AJ admix, 23andme would be the most solid suggestion.

I got minor AJ myself on 23andme, it is surprisingly common among ethnic Poles, even those who have no idea who that Jewish ancestor was.

[Figaro]

I got minor AJ myself on 23andme, it is surprisingly common among ethnic Poles, even those who have no idea who that Jewish ancestor was.

How much did you score? Do you think it’s attached to your E1b, or do you think your haplogroup is something older?

[Scandal]

If you have a disproportionate amount of Jewish matches on GEDmatch, then that would confirm it.
Should I sort them by "overlap" ?
I looked at a few of my matches and they don't make sense at all. There's a guy who seems to have ashkenazi admixture. Then there's a guy that gets modeled as 95% spaniard + 5% bantu (probably a latino), then there's this guy who gets modeled as 90% spanish + 10 kumyk and other kavkaz groups. I've seen matches that are anglo americans (I'm just guessing by how they are modeled), there was also one guy who looked purely english genetically (could have been american as well). How could those people be related to me? To me they look like a bunch of random people who have nothing to do with me.

[Gergő Marosvári]

Is AncestryDNA's algorithm slightly worse or significantly worse?

Az Ancestry nyersadata messze a LEGJOBB most a piacon. (persze nem beleszámítva a teljes genom teszteket mint a Nebula stb.)

[Scandal]

Another curious case of western euro with slight kavkaz admixture (supposedly related to me as well). Do such people even exist?

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.1% West_Scottish + 14.9% Tabassaran @ 2.03
2 85.8% West_Scottish + 14.2% Lezgin @ 2.08
3 86.5% Irish + 13.5% Tabassaran @ 2.27
4 87.1% Irish + 12.9% Lezgin @ 2.29
5 85.8% West_Scottish + 14.2% Chechen @ 2.35
6 86% West_Scottish + 14% Kumyk @ 2.52
7 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.53
8 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Chechen @ 2.57
9 88.9% Irish + 11.1% Kurdish @ 2.59
10 86.8% West_Scottish + 13.2% Adygei @ 2.6
11 89% Irish + 11% Iranian @ 2.61
12 86.1% Orcadian + 13.9% Tabassaran @ 2.67
13 88.1% Irish + 11.9% Adygei @ 2.67
14 89.8% Irish + 10.2% Abhkasian @ 2.73
15 89.4% Irish + 10.6% Georgian @ 2.74
16 87.1% West_Scottish + 12.9% North_Ossetian @ 2.76
17 88.3% Irish + 11.7% North_Ossetian @ 2.81
18 88.2% Irish + 11.8% Azeri @ 2.82
19 88.3% West_Scottish + 11.7% Georgian @ 2.83
20 88.8% West_Scottish + 11.2% Abhkasian @ 2.83

[Roy]

How much did you score? Do you think it’s attached to your E1b, or do you think your haplogroup is something older?

I don't think it is, as it is for 90% related to my mother's side of family from Warsaw and not to my dad's ancestors. I score 1% AJ I think.

I'd like to check my precise subclade of E-V13 in the future, in the majority of Europeans it has nothing to do with Jews anyway.

[rothaer]

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Do you want to know if you have some AJ or do you want to determine the exact amount?

If the latter, a 23andMe test can be recommended. It's the most reliable and shows you even the segment data. If it's about the first just you can tell me your GEDmatch number via PM and I can check. (It would take hours to explain all, also, it's about recognizing AJ matches, a knowledge that can not be easily transferred.)

[SouthDutch7991]

I have done only myheritage so far and it says I am 5.6% Ashkenazi Jewish. However people say Myheritage - unlike 23andme - is not able to measure AJ ancestry accurately.
My vahaduo results from various calculators:
Eurogenes k13

Eurogenes k13

Dodecadk12b


k15

Personally, I wouldn't put any thought to it. My dad gets 6.2% Ashkenazi on MyHeritage, but he's also tested with Ancestry and FamilyTreeDNA. All just British, German, and some other NW euro for him. MyHeritage really likes to give people southern european DNA in general. I also took 23andMe, had 98% British and F/G. Other percents were some Italian, broadly, and some African, no jewish. MyHeritage is no good for fine scale estimates, I WOULD take more tests if I were you but I would not expect to find any Jewish. Actually, one of the reasons I tested at all was to see if I had any Jewish ancestry because it seemed kind of neat, I was a little disappointed that nothing super rare was in there.

[SouthDutch7991]

Another curious case of western euro with slight kavkaz admixture (supposedly related to me as well). Do such people even exist?

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.1% West_Scottish + 14.9% Tabassaran @ 2.03
2 85.8% West_Scottish + 14.2% Lezgin @ 2.08
3 86.5% Irish + 13.5% Tabassaran @ 2.27
4 87.1% Irish + 12.9% Lezgin @ 2.29
5 85.8% West_Scottish + 14.2% Chechen @ 2.35
6 86% West_Scottish + 14% Kumyk @ 2.52
7 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.53
8 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Chechen @ 2.57
9 88.9% Irish + 11.1% Kurdish @ 2.59
10 86.8% West_Scottish + 13.2% Adygei @ 2.6
11 89% Irish + 11% Iranian @ 2.61
12 86.1% Orcadian + 13.9% Tabassaran @ 2.67
13 88.1% Irish + 11.9% Adygei @ 2.67
14 89.8% Irish + 10.2% Abhkasian @ 2.73
15 89.4% Irish + 10.6% Georgian @ 2.74
16 87.1% West_Scottish + 12.9% North_Ossetian @ 2.76
17 88.3% Irish + 11.7% North_Ossetian @ 2.81
18 88.2% Irish + 11.8% Azeri @ 2.82
19 88.3% West_Scottish + 11.7% Georgian @ 2.83
20 88.8% West_Scottish + 11.2% Abhkasian @ 2.83

Check out my M. Grandma:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.7% Southwest_English + 6.3% Abhkasian @ 2.42
2 93.4% Southwest_English + 6.6% Georgian @ 2.46
3 92.8% Southwest_English + 7.2% Ossetian @ 2.47
4 92.7% Southwest_English + 7.3% Balkar @ 2.65
5 93% Southwest_English + 7% North_Ossetian @ 2.7
6 93% Southwest_English + 7% Adygei @ 2.74
7 92.8% Southwest_English + 7.2% Kabardin @ 2.81
8 93.8% Southwest_English + 6.2% Armenian @ 2.89
9 92.8% Southwest_English + 7.2% Chechen @ 2.9
10 92.8% Southwest_English + 7.2% Kumyk @ 2.92
11 93% Southwest_English + 7% Lezgin @ 3.01
12 92.8% Southwest_English + 7.2% Tabassaran @ 3.05
13 93.8% Southwest_English + 6.2% Kurdish @ 3.05
14 93.1% Southwest_English + 6.9% Turkish @ 3.1
15 93.5% Southwest_English + 6.5% Azeri @ 3.15
16 94.2% Southwest_English + 5.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.18
17 94.2% Southwest_English + 5.8% Iranian @ 3.26
18 94.8% Southwest_English + 5.2% Makrani @ 3.29
19 94.4% Southwest_English + 5.6% Assyrian @ 3.29
20 95% Southwest_English + 5% Brahui @ 3.3