Norwegian and British couples should have no more than two children to help saving the planet

[European blood]

Seven billion people 'a catastrophe': professor


“We’re behaving like spoiled egoists,” a University of Bergen zoology professor has said of a world too busy to contemplate the perils of the world's rocketing population growth.

As the world’s population topped 7 billion people on Monday, Professor Harald Kryvi said something needed to be done to counter the strain on the environment.

“There are two things we need to do — We must dare to discuss the problems that come from population growth, and we must provide (birth control) to areas where growth is biggest,” Kryvi told newspaper Bergens Tidende.

The professor points to the large-scale stripping of resources and climate change as warning signs that there are too many people on Earth.

“People talk about the effects of climate change. They don’t talk about the cause,” he said.

Politicians, he warned, were too fearful of “religious leaders” to begin talking about the need for more contraception in some parts of the world.

To set an example, Norwegians should not have more than two children, he said.

Norway’s burgeoning oil industry, meanwhile, openly cites population growth as the primary reason for its healthy economic outlook, as well as the need to produce more petroleum.

http://www.thelocal.no/page/view/earth-at-7-billion-souls-a-catastrophe-professor-says



British Couples Should Have No More than Two Children to Speed up Their Genocide by Substitution



The propaganda for the European genocide is in full swing this week.

Europeans needs to let alien immigrants colonise their countries because otherwise there won’t be enough workers around to pay for their pensions.

But at the same time, Europeans need to have fewer children themselves.

The xenomaniac elite are quite happy to deploy two completely contradictory arguments.

ONE of Scotland’s most eminent scientists has argued that couples in the UK should have no more than two children to help tackle the world’s soaring population.


Professor Sir Ian Wilmut puts forward his controversial views in today’s Scotsman as the number of people on the planet officially hits seven billion.

The professor of reproductive biology, most famous for his role in cloning Dolly the Sheep, argues that “population control is essential and beneficial even in countries like our own” because of the strain such a large number of people place on the planet’s resources.

He adds: “What is needed now is government promotion of the fact that having more than two children is imposing unacceptable demands upon the environment.”

…Writing an article called Population and consumption the twin determinants of our fate in The Scotsman today, Prof Wilmut said that even in the UK there are “obvious effects of human activity upon the rural environment”.

And he said although it would be “perverse” to remove the financial support that ensures children in the UK have a good start, there should be “social encouragement for those who choose not to have children or have only one child”.

…Prof Wilmut is the latest in a long line of well-known figures to promote the idea of having fewer children.

Broadcaster and naturalist Sir David Attenborough, environmentalist Jonathan Porrit, primatologist Jane Goodall, television presenter Chris Packham and former American vice-president Al Gore have all in the past sparked controversy by making similar comments.

http://actforamerica.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/british-couples-should-have-no-more-than-two-children-to-speed-up-their-genocide-by-substitution/#more-7171

[Incal]

The ones who shouldn't have more than 2 children are Pakis, Africans (each and every country), Indians, etc...

[Contra Mundum]

Aren't Brit and Norwegian females already having 2 children or less?

[Pallantides]

Aren't Brit and Norwegian females already having 2 children or less?

This is true, but only 50 years ago it was common to have 4 to 6 kids though.

[Turkey]

What a cowardly little man. Well he's got to get his grant i suppose:rolleyes2:

[Pallantides]

What a cowardly little man. Well he's got to get his grant i suppose:rolleyes2:

Here he is, Harald Kryvi:
http://old.studvest.no/bilder/2010/03/15/12614_W1_EWB_05.jpg




Norwegians already get too few kids, he should rather focus his attention on Africans, Middle Easterners and South Asian populations who bred like rabbits.

[Tarja]

Yeah, because Norwegians and Brits are the groups to be concerned about - Get the immigrants and their 10 kids each out and our populations will go down dramatically.

As for world population, he's pointing the finger at the wrong places. We shouldn't be having less kids, we should surely be having more so we aren't outbred.

[Hevneren]

We're only 4 million (or thereabout, not counting emigrants/colonials), and we're supposed to become even fewer? :rolleyes:

I agree that 7 billion people is too much. 1/10 of that would be more than enough. All in all I don't mind population control and reduction, but first let's focus on the biggest "sinners", in Africa and Asia, who're having kids far above replacement level and their own ability to care for their young! Kids in Africa starve all the time, and yet African women keep popping out more babies!

If you can't feed and clothe the kid(s) you already have, you shouldn't be having another one! Resources are limited, and having kids without being able to take care of them is woefully irresponsible!

[Riki]

Like someone already said,the problem its not in Europe.


Rank Country Fertility rate
in 2010
(births/woman)
1 Niger 7.68
2 Uganda 6.73
3 Mali 6.54
4 Somalia 6.44
5 Burundi 6.25
6 Burkina Faso 6.21
7 DR Congo 6.11
8 Ethiopia 6.07
9 Zambia 6.07
10 Angola 6.05
11 Republic of the Congo 5.77
12 Malawi 5.51
13 Afghanistan 5.50
14 Benin 5.40
15 Mayotte (France) 5.40
16 Liberia 5.24
17 Sao Tome and Principe 5.21
18 Chad 5.18
19 Guinea 5.15
20 Mozambique 5.13
21 Madagascar 5.09
22 Equatorial Guinea 5.00
23 Rwanda 4.99
24 Sierra Leone 4.97
25 The Gambia 4.96
26 Sudan 4.93
27 Gaza Strip 4.90
28 Senegal 4.86
29 Nigeria 4.82
30 Yemen 4.81
31 Comoros 4.78
32 Togo 4.74
33 Central African Republic 4.68
34 Gabon 4.62
35 Eritrea 4.60
36 Guinea-Bissau 4.58
37 Kenya 4.38
38 Mauritania 4.37
39 Western Sahara 4.37
40 Tanzania 4.31
41 Cameroon 4.25
42 Côte d'Ivoire 4.01
43 Iraq 3.76
44 Solomon Islands 3.67
45 Zimbabwe 3.66
46 Ghana 3.57
47 Papua New Guinea 3.54
48 Marshall Islands 3.51
49 French Guiana (France) 3.46
50 Jordan 3.42
51 Guatemala 3.36
52 Samoa 3.32
53 Belize 3.28
54 Pakistan 3.28
55 Philippines 3.23
56 American Samoa (US) 3.22
57 Laos 3.22
58 Timor-Leste 3.20
59 Swaziland 3.19
60 Honduras 3.17
61 Tuvalu 3.14
62 Nauru 3.13
63 West Bank 3.12
64 Bolivia 3.07
65 Haiti 3.07
66 Syria 3.02
67 Egypt 3.01
68 Libya 3.01
69 Lesotho 3.00
70 Tajikistan 2.94
71 Turks and Caicos Islands (UK) 2.92
72 Cambodia 2.90
73 Oman 2.87
74 Kiribati 2.86
75 Federated States of Micronesia 2.80
76 Djibouti 2.79
77 Israel 2.72
78 Kuwait 2.70
79 Malaysia 2.70
80 Bangladesh 2.65
81 Fiji 2.65
82 India 2.65
83 Kyrgyzstan 2.64
84 Namibia 2.57
85 World 2.56
86 Botswana 2.54
87 Cape Verde 2.54
88 Nepal 2.53
89 Guam (US) 2.52
90 Nicaragua 2.51
91 Panama 2.48
92 Bahrain 2.47
93 Dominican Republic 2.47
94 Ecuador 2.46
95 Venezuela 2.45
96 Qatar 2.44
97 Cook Islands 2.43
98 Vanuatu 2.43
99 Faroe Islands ( Denmark) 2.43
100 Réunion (France) 2.42

[Riki]

101 United Arab Emirates 2.41
102 Guyana 2.40
103 Saudi Arabia 2.35
104 Argentina 2.33
105 South Africa 2.33
106 Peru 2.32
107 Mexico 2.31
108 Bhutan 2.29
109 Burma 2.28
110 Indonesia 2.28
111 Guadeloupe (France) 2.26 (in 2004)[4]
112 Morocco 2.23
113 Mongolia 2.22
114 Grenada 2.21
115 Jamaica 2.21
116 Brazil 2.19
117 Turkmenistan 2.19
118 Colombia 2.18
119 Turkey 2.18
120 Northern Mariana Islands (US) 2.18
121 Greenland ( Denmark) 2.16
122 Paraguay 2.16
123 El Salvador 2.12
124 Curacao ( Netherlands) 2.10
125 New Caledonia (France) 2.09
126 New Zealand 2.09
127 Dominica 2.08
128 Antigua and Barbuda 2.06
129 United States 2.06
130 Azerbaijan 2.03
131 Ireland 2.03
132 The Bahamas 2.00
133 Tonga 2.00
134 Bermuda (UK) 1.98
135 France (Metropolitan) 1.97
136 Former Netherlands Antilles (Netherlands) 1.97
137 Suriname 1.97
138 Isle of Man (UK) 1.97
139 Gibraltar (UK) 1.96
140 Sri Lanka 1.96
141 North Korea 1.94
142 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1.94
143 Costa Rica 1.93
144 Vietnam 1.93
145 Seychelles 1.92
146 Uzbekistan 1.92
147 United Kingdom 1.92
148 Chile 1.90
149 Iceland 1.90
150 French Polynesia (France) 1.89
151 Uruguay 1.89
152 Iran 1.89
153 Brunei 1.88
154 Cayman Islands (UK) 1.88
155 Martinique (France) 1.88 (in 2004)[4]
156 Kazakhstan 1.87
157 Aruba (Netherlands) 1.84
158 Wallis and Futuna (France) 1.84
159 Maldives 1.83
160 Saint Lucia 1.82
162 U.S. Virgin Islands (US) 1.81
163 Mauritius 1.80
164 Saint Kitts and Nevis 1.79
165 Australia 1.78
166 Luxembourg 1.78
167 Lebanon 1.78
168 Norway 1.77
169 Algeria 1.76
170 Anguilla (UK) 1.75
171 Denmark 1.74
172 Finland 1.73
173 Palau 1.73
174 Trinidad and Tobago 1.72
175 British Virgin Islands (UK) 1.71
176 Tunisia 1.71
177 Sint Maarten (Netherlands) 1.71
178 Sweden 1.67
178 Barbados 1.68
179 Jersey (UK) 1.66
180 Netherlands 1.66
181 Belgium 1.65
182 Thailand 1.65
183 Puerto Rico (US) 1.62
184 Cuba 1.61
185 Canada 1.58
186 Republic of Macedonia 1.58
187 Saint Helena (UK) 1.56
188 People's Republic of China (mainland only) 1.54
188 Russia 1.54
189 Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France) 1.54
190 Guernsey (UK) 1.53
191 Liechtenstein 1.53
192 Malta 1.52
193 Monaco 1.50
194 Portugal 1.50
195 Albania 1.47
196 Spain 1.47
197 San Marino 1.46
198 Switzerland 1.46
199 Cyprus 1.45
200 Georgia 1.44
201 Croatia 1.43
202 Estonia 1.43
203 Germany 1.42
204 Bulgaria 1.41
226 Japan 1.39[6][7]
206 Austria 1.39
207 Serbia 1.39
208 Hungary 1.39
209 Greece 1.37
210 Armenia 1.36
211 Slovakia 1.36
212 Andorra 1.34
213 Italy 1.32
214 Latvia 1.31
215 Poland 1.29
216 Slovenia 1.29
217 Moldova 1.28
218 Romania 1.27
219 Ukraine 1.27
220 Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.26
221 Belarus 1.25
222 Czech Republic 1.25
223 Montserrat (UK) 1.25
224 Lithuania 1.24
225 South Korea 1.22
227 Republic of China (Taiwan) 1.15
228 Singapore 1.10
229 Hong Kong (PRC) 1.04
230 Macau (PRC) 0.91

[Phil75231]

Actually nobody these days should have more than 2 children. Better yet, everybody who wants children should give birth to only one (if you want more, adopt). 1 child per woman per lifetime should cut the population by 50% in 80 years, and 75% in 160 (surely that should be a ecologically sustainable population). BUT, I'm not sure that even we'll do even half that much. I'm just glad my non-existent children* won't go through the upcoming catastrophe for large sections of our world - if not all of it.


*Actually the environment is just an incidental beneficiary. I don't want children because the idea of me being a father is just distasteful to me.

[Templar]

Forget about the Planet!!!! No more than two kids per family, that is one brilliant Idea. This is the way we stop those fucking Muslims from taking over...all in the name of the Planet; I love it!!!! Now even I want to hug a damn tree.

[Templar]

Actually nobody these days should have more than 2 children. Better yet, everybody who wants children should give birth to only one (if you want more, adopt). 1 child per woman per lifetime should cut the population by 50% in 80 years, and 75% in 160 (surely that should be a ecologically sustainable population). BUT, I'm not sure that even we'll do even half that much. I'm just glad my non-existent children* won't go through the upcoming catastrophe for large sections of our world - if not all of it.


*Actually the environment is just an incidental beneficiary. I don't want children because the idea of me being a father is just distasteful to me.


Phil75231 I've only read one of your posts but I have to agree with you on you quote below:

"Actually the environment is just an incidental beneficiary. I don't want children because the idea of me being a father is just distasteful to me."


You care more about the Planet than you do about having kids?

[Oreka Bailoak]

This is a very important topic and a few trends need to be pointed out and common myths dispelled.

1) Religious vs. non-Religious
Currently liberals and atheists are far below the replacement rate. However, conservatives and the religious have a much higher birth rate. These traditional valued community oriented religious people are going to inherit our civilization in coming generations. For example, pro-life Americans have 38% more children than pro-abortion Americans.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/author-religious-populations-will-inherit-the-earth/
http://www.aei.org/video/101452
^Great article, excellent book, and a wonderfully interesting lecture.

2) Parents totally underestimate the benefits to themselves, to society, to the environment of having children vs. their massive overestimation of the costs of having children.
http://www.cato.org/multimedia/events/selfish-reasons-have-more-kids
^His book goes over the reasons why scientists say "don't have kids to save the environment" is totally stupid- as well as other silly and obvious reasons for why parents overestimate costs or underestimate benefits of having kids- all coupled with the latest research in behavioral genetics.

3) The only people who will listen to scientists and have less children are often the more conscientious, which is a personality trait that is already rapidly disappearing in modern society. Dysgenic trends are really bad and have been increasing since the industrial revolution. (Criminals have 4 kids for example, while the non-criminal population has under 2!)
http://www.archive.org/details/Dysgenics-Richard-Lynn
^Absolutely amazing book about the topic of Dysgenics in modern society.

[Templar]

This is a very important topic and a few trends need to be pointed out and common myths dispelled.

Quote:) "Religious vs. non-Religious
Currently liberals and atheists are far below the replacement rate. However, conservatives and the religious have a much higher birth rate. These traditional valued community oriented religious people are going to inherit our civilization in coming generations. For example, pro-life Americans have 38% more children than pro-abortion Americans".





Yes, because Pro Life Americans aren’t killing their babies. Is that so hard to understand?

[Turkey]

are political belief's hereditary?:thumb001:

[Templar]

are political belief's hereditary?:thumb001:

Good Question, Turkey.

[AussieScott]

Pity the Liberals don't aim these policies where they are needed the most, which is not at Western countries...

Africa, Asia Minor and Asia Major would be more appropriate.

[Incal]

I drop a question here: What would happen if Western countries proposed or enforced a 2 kid (or 1 kid) policy as in China? Would PC faggots and progressives would whine and go crazy?

[Phil75231]

Phil75231 I've only read one of your posts but I have to agree with you on you quote below:

"Actually the environment is just an incidental beneficiary. I don't want children because the idea of me being a father is just distasteful to me."


You care more about the Planet than you do about having kids?

Yep, we (or at least our civilization as we know it) will cease to exist if we don't take better care of this planet. That'll wipe out all preservation efforts. What the hell good is it gonna do any ethnicity if ALL 7 billion of us are drowning in the same mess?!?

No healthy planet = no preservation of the traditions of ANY ethnic group!

BUT..as I said, my primary personal reason is that I just don't want the responsibility of raising kids. Some people just don't have the patience to deal with the noise, screaming, disobedience, and all that other drama associated with it.


are political belief's hereditary?

Sorry, Turkey but the answer is a plain and simple NO! Political beliefs are no more heritable than religious beliefs are. Look no further than the following for proof

(a) 60s hippies being the children of the generally more conservative and disciplinarian WW2 generation

(b) religious conversions/deconversions from the faith they grew up in (or even nonbelievers becoming believers of some sort of supernatural belief system)

[Oreka Bailoak]

are political belief's hereditary?
The book by Bryan Caplan, "Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids" talks about that. The book asks and answers the question using the latest behavioral genetics studies- "what can and can't parents influence upon their children?" And political beliefs are one of the rare traits that- like religion- parents actually have an influence on their children. (the other one being the sex life of their daughters).

So this means that even if you adopt children, the adopted will more likely share your political and religious beliefs.

So political and religious views have a very strong nurture component rather than being hereditary.


What would happen if Western countries proposed or enforced a 2 kid (or 1 kid) policy as in China? Would PC faggots and progressives would whine and go crazy?
Yes they would, and in all reality it probably wouldn't help the birth rate problem. Singapore, the nightmare country for demographers, is a country that has the best incentives to have children but their birth rate is still among the lowest in the world. This shows that values play a much stronger role than economics when it comes to having children.

Some people are affected however, in Canada they passed into law a very small economic incentive (something like 500$) to have more children and it actually slightly increased the birth rate.

I think the number one problem restricting parents from having more kids is that they almost always overestimate the costs and underestimate the benefits of having children. If the latest research could get out to the public (like that book by Bryan Caplan) the birthrate should easily rise. Couple that with spreading social values throughout society that favor a high birthrate and the rate will radically rise.

[European blood]

Whites are less than 10% of the total global population.

Whites aren't the problem.

Africa is projected by some to add more than 2 billion niggers in the next 90 years. Short term the population of Nigeria is going to eclipse 700 million. A country a tenth the size of the United States will have more than double the United States current population.

All these dusky celebrity fashion accessories and attractive converts to Catholicism and Lutheranism will be flooding the White, Western world in gigantic numbers. The Western world is drowning under seas of niggers and sand niggers and bean niggers.

All these delightful celebrations of diversity go to Jew and lefty controlled countries. In 60 years Hispanics went from not a presence in America to 15+ percent of the total population. More than 10 percent of Germany is Turkish and Muslim and these trends tend to accelerate.

Nobody is going to limit their breeding except liberal environmentalist college educated whites. Growth will continue until space, food, and energy shortages make having kids too difficult. Animals accept more discomfort than humans do. Niggers don't need energy or good food, or comfort to live or breed as whites do. So whites will reach those limits before niggers do.



Yep, we (or at least our civilization as we know it) will cease to exist if we don't take better care of this planet. That'll wipe out all preservation efforts. What the hell good is it gonna do any ethnicity if ALL 7 billion of us are drowning in the same mess?!?

No healthy planet = no preservation of the traditions of ANY ethnic group!

BUT..as I said, my primary personal reason is that I just don't want the responsibility of raising kids. Some people just don't have the patience to deal with the noise, screaming, disobedience, and all that other drama associated with it.

You don't want to have kids and preserve your European genes but you want to save the Planet?

For what? Why bother? We all going to die anyway ...

Because of the 7 billion stinking muds?

Is the Western multiracial cesspool worth saving?

May it once again become no more than third dirtball.

[gandalf]

Norvegian and english shouldn't have more than two kids ,

I agree , there is enough beautiful people ,

lets make the uglies proliferate .

[Templar]

Yep, we (or at least our civilization as we know it) will cease to exist if we don't take better care of this planet. That'll wipe out all preservation efforts. What the hell good is it gonna do any ethnicity if ALL 7 billion of us are drowning in the same mess?!?

No healthy planet = no preservation of the traditions of ANY ethnic group!

BUT..as I said, my primary personal reason is that I just don't want the responsibility of raising kids. Some people just don't have the patience to deal with the noise, screaming, disobedience, and all that other drama associated with it.



Sorry, Turkey but the answer is a plain and simple NO! Political beliefs are no more heritable than religious beliefs are. Look no further than the following for proof

(a) 60s hippies being the children of the generally more conservative and disciplinarian WW2 generation

(b) religious conversions/deconversions from the faith they grew up in (or even nonbelievers becoming believers of some sort of supernatural belief system)

My fellow Texan, if we all felt the way you do, we wouldn’t need a planet. I'm not sure what kids you have been exposed to but I would hate for anyone to miss out on the most rewarding thing life allows us to participate in. I sure hope you find the right person that makes you want to reconsider your position. As a parent you have total responsibility of the way a child is raised. You will develop the patience to deal with the" noise, screaming, disobedience, and all that other drama" because you control that as the parent, but only if you are engaged in the child’s life and development. . You seem like you are a pretty responsible guy so I think you can pull it off. I do hope you rethink that position.

[Turkey]

I drop a question here: What would happen if Western countries proposed or enforced a 2 kid (or 1 kid) policy as in China? Would PC faggots and progressives would whine and go crazy?

I don't think so. If it's anti-white they never mind.

For instance, do feminist kick up a stink about sharia law in western countries etc? None that I've seen.

[Riki]

Once an Algerian Minister said that Islam and the Muslims.would some day invade Europe,not through war,but through their women belly's.

[Templar]

Whites are less than 10% of the total global population.

Whites aren't the problem.

Africa is projected by some to add more than 2 billion niggers in the next 90 years. Short term the population of Nigeria is going to eclipse 700 million. A country a tenth the size of the United States will have more than double the United States current population.

All these dusky celebrity fashion accessories and attractive converts to Catholicism and Lutheranism will be flooding the White, Western world in gigantic numbers. The Western world is drowning under seas of niggers and sand niggers and bean niggers.

All these delightful celebrations of diversity go to Jew and lefty controlled countries. In 60 years Hispanics went from not a presence in America to 15+ percent of the total population. More than 10 percent of Germany is Turkish and Muslim and these trends tend to accelerate.

Nobody is going to limit their breeding except liberal environmentalist college educated whites. Growth will continue until space, food, and energy shortages make having kids too difficult. Animals accept more discomfort than humans do. Niggers don't need energy or good food, or comfort to live or breed as whites do. So whites will reach those limits before niggers do.




You don't want to have kids and preserve your European genes but you want to save the Planet?

For what? Why bother? We all going to die anyway ...

Because of the 7 billion stinking muds?

Is the Western multiracial cesspool worth saving?

May it once again become no more than third dirtball.

Those numbers are scary as hell. Maybe the only answer is for the Europeans to empty out one of the poorest Eastern European countries and only let the brown and black immigrants to Europe live there. Send them all to one place where they can live together and see how far they get having to support each other.

[Unurautare]

While I saw a gypsy on the news with over 20 kids. -_-

[Beorn]

Norvegian and english shouldn't have more than two kids ,

I agree , there is enough beautiful people ,

lets make the uglies proliferate .

http://top-people.starmedia.com/tmp/swotti/cacheBMLJB2XHCYBZYXJRB3P5UGVVCGXLLVBLB3BSZQ==/imgNicolas%20Sarkozy3.jpg

[Turkey]

Those numbers are scary as hell. Maybe the only answer is for the Europeans to empty out one of the poorest Eastern European countries and only let the brown and black immigrants to Europe live there. Send them all to one place where they can live together and see how far they get having to support each other.

it's been done. It's called france

[Moonbird]

He adds: “What is needed now is government promotion of the fact that having more than two children is imposing unacceptable demands upon the environment.”


Well, United Kingdom has a fertility rate of 1,91 births per woman during her lifetime, Norway has 1,77. They are already under two children per woman. The solution to the problem with overpopulation has to be found elsewhere. :rolleyes:

[HeathenWarrior14]

This article is ridiculous. Europeans should be having more children, Africans, Indians, and the Chinese should be sterilized with the amount of children they have. The population density in Bengal is over 900 people per sq. km. India and China together hold a third of the global population. The average global birth rate is about 20 and the top twenty countries for birth rate in the world are a majority African nations, with one or two middle eastern countries thrown in there - all with a birth rate of >/= 40; facts taken from the CIA World Factbook in 2009. The average birthrate for the whole EU is 9.90; about half of the average global birthrate while the majority of African countries are at twice the global birth rate. Yet, thanks to liberals controlling the majority of the world's major media sources, if someone said that Africans, Middle Easterners, and Asians needed to stop having kids there would be riots.

[HeathenWarrior14]

To clarify, the birth rates presented in my previous post were per 1,000 people.