Classify three archetypal upper-class former British MPs

[Tooting Carmen]

Tristram Hunt
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James Berry
https://www.politics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/cnphoto_0_0_0_0_14113249_1200.jpghttps://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/resources/images/2778564/

Zac Goldsmith (part-Jewish, but looks totally Anglo-Saxon IMHO)
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[Oliver109]

Tristram Hunt, kelto brunn and nordic, James Berry Kelto Brunn and Subnordic, Goldsmith has a previous classification thread.

[Tooting Carmen]

Goldsmith has a previous classification thread.

I think his sister displays more of a Jewish influence in her phenotype than him, don't you agree?
https://www.thenews.com.pk/assets/uploads/updates/2021-10-15/900562_6596401_jemima_updates.jpghttps://starsunfolded.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Gemima-Goldsmith-1.jpg

[Arūnas]

the real men, more east more deficient (incomplete/imperfect) people
this is the general rule

[Tooting Carmen]

the real men, more east more deficient (incomplete/imperfect) people
this is the general rule

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[Arūnas]

:confused:

https://www.ranker.com/list/celebrity-russian-lookalikes/nathandavidson

and one example from that link:

https://justsomething.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/celebrities-russian-look-alikes.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

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[hurtuv]

Give them shaved heads, a stuble and a pint to drink at a pub and they'd be archetypal lower class.

[Tooting Carmen]

Give them shaved heads, a stuble and a pint to drink at a pub and they'd be archetypal lower class.

Really?

[hurtuv]

Really?

Yes, and what I mean by it is that I don't buy much into the theory that people have different phenotypes according to class (for the most part at least, there could be some exceptions such as higher cast Indians...). They can look different, with different hairstyles, clothes, facial expressions and manneirisms, etc...and even subtle things contribute in giving them a different vibe, but I doubt there would be differences in actual phenotypes that could be statistically measured.
If we were talking about sets of people who played different sports, it would be another story though, since phenotypes can come associated with physical traits that favour the practice of a certain sport.

[Oliver109]

Yes, and what I mean by it is that I don't buy much into the theory that people have different phenotypes according to class (for the most part at least, there could be some exceptions such as higher cast Indians...). They can look different, with different hairstyles, clothes, facial expressions and manneirisms, etc...and even subtle things contribute in giving them a different vibe, but I doubt there would be differences in actual phenotypes that could be statistically measured.
If we were talking about sets of people who played different sports, it would be another story though, since phenotypes can come associated with physical traits that favour the practice of a certain sport.

I think when a group of people segregates over a period of 500 or more years they tend to develop their own distinct sort of look, i imagine there are certain Amish phenotypes and also distinct looks in remote parts of Britain like the Hebrides and Shetlands.

[Immanenz]

1st guy totally working class Germanic look- Lundman said Faelid is a Swedish Farmer type

2nd Ukraine-Greek, a lot of Steppe, but not noble at all, can work on any Farm too

3rd guy light Hugh Grant with some Arabic traits, ok he cant do any proper work, so he would just be a salesman or comedian at best

[Universe]

Yes, and what I mean by it is that I don't buy much into the theory that people have different phenotypes according to class (for the most part at least, there could be some exceptions such as higher cast Indians...). They can look different, with different hairstyles, clothes, facial expressions and manneirisms, etc...and even subtle things contribute in giving them a different vibe, but I doubt there would be differences in actual phenotypes that could be statistically measured.
If we were talking about sets of people who played different sports, it would be another story though, since phenotypes can come associated with physical traits that favour the practice of a certain sport.
England (and maybe other countries from the british isles as well) has a pronounced class divide that's not found in other parts of Europe.

[Oliver109]

England (and maybe other countries from the british isles as well) has a pronounced class divide that's not found in other parts of Europe.

I heard Spain has a class divide though not growing up there i was never really noticing it as much as i do in the UK

[Tooting Carmen]

England (and maybe other countries from the british isles as well) has a pronounced class divide that's not found in other parts of Europe.

Everywhere has a class divide.

[Universe]

Everywhere has a class divide.
Where everywhere? Everywhere in British isles or?

[Tooting Carmen]

Where everywhere? Everywhere in British isles or?

All countries have differences in wealth, income and education.

[AndreAndre]

Tristram - Nordic with CM influences
James - Atlantid with CM influences (somewhat resembles me actually)
Zac - NordAtlantic

[Roy]

Everywhere has a class divide.

But usually it is not as as clear and emphatic as it is in the UK.

[hurtuv]

I think when a group of people segregates over a period of 500 or more years they tend to develop their own distinct sort of look, i imagine there are certain Amish phenotypes and also distinct looks in remote parts of Britain like the Hebrides and Shetlands.

Higher class Brits as a group, even not being that numerous, were probably too phenotypically diverse to begin with. And there would always be an amount of intermingling with other groups.

[Oliver109]

Higher class Brits as a group, even not being that numerous, were probably too phenotypically diverse to begin with. And there would always be an amount of intermingling with other groups.

Phenotypes probably became concentrated over time, just how in certain regions of the UK you might have a sort of look that is distinctive you will probably get that with upper class people who have generally concentrated themselves in certain counties like Sussex, Hampshire and North Yorkshire.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[axel.aleman]

North Atlantid

[Avicenna]

Give them shaved heads, a stuble and a pint to drink at a pub and they'd be archetypal lower class.

They really wouldnt , they look super middle class looking , posh southern looking . These types of men are CEO's of companies etc etc . Probably descendants of Anglo Saxons who made up the higher class folk compared to the lower class farmer look of the chavs / northerners etc who descend from Celtic stock..