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kingmob
02-17-2022, 06:43 AM
It's very easy to make a workable run for both:


1) Minoan Lassithi: Greece_Peloponnese_N 91.1% + Iran_GanjDareh_N 8.9%.




qpAdm: parameter file: parqpadm.txt
### THE INPUT PARAMETERS
##PARAMETER NAME: VALUE
fstatsname: fstatsa.txt
popleft: left.txt
popright: right.txt
details: YES
## qpAdm version: 1520
seed: 1891837379
*** recommended that inbreed be explicitly set ***
inbreed set NO

left pops:
Greece_Minoan_Lassithi
Greece_Peloponnese_N
Iran_GanjDareh_N

right pops:
Mbuti.DG
Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG
China_Tianyuan
Goyet_Neanderthal.SG
Turkey_N_published
Georgia_Kotias.SG
Russia_MA1_HG.SG
Georgia_Satsurblia.SG
Papuan.DG
Israel_Natufian_published
Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG
ONG.SG

codimension 1
f4info:
f4rank: 1 dof: 10 chisq: 15.117 tail: 0.127863692 dofdiff: 12 chisqdiff: -15.117 taildiff: 1
B:
scale 1.000
Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG 0.173
China_Tianyuan -0.007
Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.028
Turkey_N_published 2.683
Georgia_Kotias.SG -0.080
Russia_MA1_HG.SG 0.102
Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.174
Papuan.DG 0.020
Israel_Natufian_published 1.920
Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 0.175
ONG.SG 0.072
A:
scale 359.708
Greece_Peloponnese_N 0.137
Iran_GanjDareh_N -1.408


full rank
f4info:
f4rank: 2 dof: 0 chisq: 0.000 tail: 1 dofdiff: 10 chisqdiff: 15.117 taildiff: 0.127863692
B:
scale 2412.295 248.383
Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.152 -0.200
China_Tianyuan 1.564 0.100
Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.220 -0.031
Turkey_N_published 2.427 -2.627
Georgia_Kotias.SG -0.282 0.065
Russia_MA1_HG.SG -1.186 -0.173
Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.796 0.136
Papuan.DG -0.528 -0.064
Israel_Natufian_published 0.142 -1.987
Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.135 -0.196
ONG.SG 0.394 -0.056
A:
scale 1.414 1.414
Greece_Peloponnese_N 1.414 0.000
Iran_GanjDareh_N 0.000 1.414


best coefficients: 0.911 0.089
totmean: 0.911 0.089
boot mean: 0.911 0.089
std. errors: 0.015 0.015

error covariance (* 1,000,000)
235 -235
-235 235


summ: Greece_Minoan_Lassithi 2 0.127864 0.911 0.089 235 -235 235

fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
00 0 10 15.117 0.127864 0.911 0.089
01 1 11 42.393 1.38468e-05 1.000 0.000
10 1 11 1706.226 0 0.000 1.000
best pat: 00 0.127864 - -
best pat: 01 1.38468e-05 chi(nested): 27.276 p-value for nested model: 1.76368e-07

coeffs: 0.911 0.089

## dscore:: f_4(Base, Fit, Rbase, right2)
## genstat:: f_4(Base, Fit, right1, right2)

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.000063 -0.201415
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.000805 -2.025652
dscore: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG f4: -0.000129 Z: -0.424383

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N China_Tianyuan 0.000648 1.998383
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N China_Tianyuan 0.000403 0.972760
dscore: China_Tianyuan f4: 0.000627 Z: 2.006058

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.000091 0.366840
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -0.000123 -0.387982
dscore: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG f4: 0.000072 Z: 0.300411

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Turkey_N_published 0.001006 4.018138
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Turkey_N_published -0.010576 -31.886169
dscore: Turkey_N_published f4: -0.000025 Z: -0.100956

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Georgia_Kotias.SG -0.000117 -0.360007
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Georgia_Kotias.SG 0.000263 0.648956
dscore: Georgia_Kotias.SG f4: -0.000083 Z: -0.265044

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.000492 -1.400381
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.000697 -1.540864
dscore: Russia_MA1_HG.SG f4: -0.000510 Z: -1.507617

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.000330 -0.884104
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.000546 1.195605
dscore: Georgia_Satsurblia.SG f4: -0.000252 Z: -0.700714

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Papuan.DG -0.000219 -0.831571
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Papuan.DG -0.000259 -0.757180
dscore: Papuan.DG f4: -0.000222 Z: -0.868458

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Israel_Natufian_published 0.000059 0.132705
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Israel_Natufian_published -0.008002 -15.626274
dscore: Israel_Natufian_published f4: -0.000658 Z: -1.539272

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.000056 -0.206413
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.000788 -2.231425
dscore: Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG f4: -0.000121 Z: -0.463415

details: Greece_Peloponnese_N ONG.SG 0.000163 0.624731
details: Iran_GanjDareh_N ONG.SG -0.000225 -0.669268
dscore: ONG.SG f4: 0.000129 Z: 0.509066

gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.424
gendstat: Mbuti.DG China_Tianyuan 2.006
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.300
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Turkey_N_published -0.101
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Georgia_Kotias.SG -0.265
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_MA1_HG.SG -1.508
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.701
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Papuan.DG -0.868
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Israel_Natufian_published -1.539
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.463
gendstat: Mbuti.DG ONG.SG 0.509
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG China_Tianyuan 2.152
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.538
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Turkey_N_published 0.348
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Georgia_Kotias.SG 0.122
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_MA1_HG.SG -1.005
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.314
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Papuan.DG -0.320
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Israel_Natufian_published -1.169
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 0.024
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG ONG.SG 0.832
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -1.486
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Turkey_N_published -2.034
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Georgia_Kotias.SG -1.886
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_MA1_HG.SG -2.892
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -2.167
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Papuan.DG -2.927
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Israel_Natufian_published -2.658
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -2.391
gendstat: China_Tianyuan ONG.SG -1.680
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Turkey_N_published -0.303
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Georgia_Kotias.SG -0.417
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Russia_MA1_HG.SG -1.506
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.779
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Papuan.DG -0.906
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Israel_Natufian_published -1.539
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.572
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG ONG.SG 0.172
gendstat: Turkey_N_published Georgia_Kotias.SG -0.197
gendstat: Turkey_N_published Russia_MA1_HG.SG -1.395
gendstat: Turkey_N_published Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.679
gendstat: Turkey_N_published Papuan.DG -0.746
gendstat: Turkey_N_published Israel_Natufian_published -1.579
gendstat: Turkey_N_published Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.356
gendstat: Turkey_N_published ONG.SG 0.586
gendstat: Georgia_Kotias.SG Russia_MA1_HG.SG -1.066
gendstat: Georgia_Kotias.SG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.473
gendstat: Georgia_Kotias.SG Papuan.DG -0.422
gendstat: Georgia_Kotias.SG Israel_Natufian_published -1.232
gendstat: Georgia_Kotias.SG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.114
gendstat: Georgia_Kotias.SG ONG.SG 0.647
gendstat: Russia_MA1_HG.SG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.618
gendstat: Russia_MA1_HG.SG Papuan.DG 0.819
gendstat: Russia_MA1_HG.SG Israel_Natufian_published -0.299
gendstat: Russia_MA1_HG.SG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 1.053
gendstat: Russia_MA1_HG.SG ONG.SG 1.843
gendstat: Georgia_Satsurblia.SG Papuan.DG 0.084
gendstat: Georgia_Satsurblia.SG Israel_Natufian_published -0.837
gendstat: Georgia_Satsurblia.SG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 0.365
gendstat: Georgia_Satsurblia.SG ONG.SG 1.066
gendstat: Papuan.DG Israel_Natufian_published -1.005
gendstat: Papuan.DG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 0.403
gendstat: Papuan.DG ONG.SG 1.486
gendstat: Israel_Natufian_published Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 1.207
gendstat: Israel_Natufian_published ONG.SG 1.801
gendstat: Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG ONG.SG 1.002

##end of qpAdm: 1.608 seconds cpu 0.680 Mbytes in use



2) Mycenean: Iran_GanjDareh_N 8.4% + Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya 17% + Greece_Peloponnese_N 74.6%.




qpAdm: parameter file: parqpadm.txt
### THE INPUT PARAMETERS
##PARAMETER NAME: VALUE
fstatsname: fstatsa.txt
popleft: left.txt
popright: right.txt
details: YES
## qpAdm version: 1520
seed: 1827260972
*** recommended that inbreed be explicitly set ***
inbreed set NO

left pops:
Greece_BA_Mycenaean
Iran_GanjDareh_N
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Greece_Peloponnese_N

right pops:
Mbuti.DG
Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG
China_Tianyuan
Goyet_Neanderthal.SG
Russia_Sunghir3.SG
Russia_Kostenki14.SG
Russia_MA1_HG.SG
Georgia_Satsurblia.SG
Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG
Papuan.DG
Switzerland_Bichon.SG
Israel_Natufian_published
Turkey_N.SG
Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic
ONG.SG

codimension 1
f4info:
f4rank: 2 dof: 12 chisq: 17.637 tail: 0.127172821 dofdiff: 14 chisqdiff: -17.637 taildiff: 1
B:
scale 1.000 1.000
Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG 0.011 0.528
China_Tianyuan -0.128 0.584
Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.035 0.129
Russia_Sunghir3.SG 0.738 0.883
Russia_Kostenki14.SG 0.388 0.770
Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.553 2.094
Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.421 0.579
Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.011 0.661
Papuan.DG -0.120 0.486
Switzerland_Bichon.SG 0.824 1.715
Israel_Natufian_published 2.031 -0.279
Turkey_N.SG 2.802 -0.350
Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic -0.347 1.761
ONG.SG -0.113 0.598
A:
scale 450.042 534.493
Iran_GanjDareh_N -1.574 -0.895
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya -0.647 1.464
Greece_Peloponnese_N 0.324 -0.232


full rank
f4info:
f4rank: 3 dof: 0 chisq: 0.000 tail: 1 dofdiff: 12 chisqdiff: 17.637 taildiff: 0.127172821
B:
scale 257.084 298.403 1202.300
Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.271 0.403 -0.300
China_Tianyuan -0.123 0.583 -0.232
Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -0.167 0.008 -0.484
Russia_Sunghir3.SG -0.973 0.483 0.650
Russia_Kostenki14.SG -0.576 0.608 0.703
Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.429 1.910 -1.729
Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.185 0.726 -0.151
Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.316 0.503 -0.581
Papuan.DG -0.192 0.363 -0.812
Switzerland_Bichon.SG -1.511 1.006 -0.287
Israel_Natufian_published -2.067 -1.482 0.134
Turkey_N.SG -2.347 -1.471 2.746
Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic -0.391 1.632 -0.971
ONG.SG -0.174 0.542 -0.333
A:
scale 1.732 1.732 1.732
Iran_GanjDareh_N 1.732 0.000 0.000
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya 0.000 1.732 0.000
Greece_Peloponnese_N 0.000 0.000 1.732


best coefficients: 0.084 0.170 0.746
totmean: 0.084 0.170 0.746
boot mean: 0.084 0.170 0.746
std. errors: 0.035 0.034 0.024

error covariance (* 1,000,000)
1252 -933 -318
-933 1170 -237
-318 -237 555


summ: Greece_BA_Mycenaean 3 0.127173 0.084 0.170 0.746 1252 -933 -318 1170 -237 ...
555

fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
000 0 12 17.637 0.127173 0.084 0.170 0.746
001 1 13 826.098 0 8.907 -7.907 0.000 infeasible
010 1 13 41.729 7.25032e-05 0.219 0.000 0.781
100 1 13 22.988 0.041819 0.000 0.232 0.768
011 2 14 799.928 0 1.000 0.000 0.000
101 2 14 987.575 0 0.000 1.000 0.000
110 2 14 118.951 1.00943e-18 0.000 0.000 1.000
best pat: 000 0.127173 - -
best pat: 100 0.041819 chi(nested): 5.351 p-value for nested model: 0.0207061
best pat: 110 1.00943e-18 chi(nested): 95.963 p-value for nested model: 1.17044e-22

coeffs: 0.084 0.170 0.746

## dscore:: f_4(Base, Fit, Rbase, right2)
## genstat:: f_4(Base, Fit, right1, right2)

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.001054 -2.385547
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG 0.001351 3.311305
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.000250 -0.652478
dscore: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG f4: -0.000046 Z: -0.127724

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N China_Tianyuan -0.000477 -1.010881
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya China_Tianyuan 0.001955 4.232103
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N China_Tianyuan -0.000193 -0.473122
dscore: China_Tianyuan f4: 0.000147 Z: 0.378857

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -0.000651 -1.800748
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Goyet_Neanderthal.SG 0.000026 0.079919
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -0.000402 -1.238805
dscore: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG f4: -0.000351 Z: -1.156212

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_Sunghir3.SG -0.003786 -7.527564
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Russia_Sunghir3.SG 0.001618 3.561734
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_Sunghir3.SG 0.000541 1.275990
dscore: Russia_Sunghir3.SG f4: 0.000360 Z: 0.903999

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_Kostenki14.SG -0.002242 -4.563255
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Russia_Kostenki14.SG 0.002039 4.477781
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_Kostenki14.SG 0.000585 1.340585
dscore: Russia_Kostenki14.SG f4: 0.000594 Z: 1.447941

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.001667 -3.383441
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Russia_MA1_HG.SG 0.006401 12.961022
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.001438 -3.159281
dscore: Russia_MA1_HG.SG f4: -0.000128 Z: -0.302235

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.000720 1.402764
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.002434 4.976248
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Georgia_Satsurblia.SG -0.000125 -0.273122
dscore: Georgia_Satsurblia.SG f4: 0.000380 Z: 0.883487

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.001228 -3.005874
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 0.001685 4.460636
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.000483 -1.359916
dscore: Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG f4: -0.000178 Z: -0.533233

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Papuan.DG -0.000749 -2.007904
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Papuan.DG 0.001218 3.521721
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Papuan.DG -0.000675 -2.028694
dscore: Papuan.DG f4: -0.000361 Z: -1.154052

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Switzerland_Bichon.SG -0.005879 -12.091183
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Switzerland_Bichon.SG 0.003373 7.030118
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Switzerland_Bichon.SG -0.000239 -0.567626
dscore: Switzerland_Bichon.SG f4: -0.000100 Z: -0.252607

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Israel_Natufian_published -0.008040 -11.599529
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Israel_Natufian_published -0.004968 -7.653161
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Israel_Natufian_published 0.000112 0.178277
dscore: Israel_Natufian_published f4: -0.001435 Z: -2.380322

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Turkey_N.SG -0.009131 -23.065571
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Turkey_N.SG -0.004930 -13.934852
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Turkey_N.SG 0.002284 6.614945
dscore: Turkey_N.SG f4: 0.000102 Z: 0.315861

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic -0.001521 -3.905924
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic 0.005470 15.383976
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic -0.000807 -2.269541
dscore: Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic f4: 0.000197 Z: 0.598092

details: Iran_GanjDareh_N ONG.SG -0.000675 -1.809765
details: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya ONG.SG 0.001817 5.303490
details: Greece_Peloponnese_N ONG.SG -0.000277 -0.866924
dscore: ONG.SG f4: 0.000045 Z: 0.148408

gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG -0.128
gendstat: Mbuti.DG China_Tianyuan 0.379
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -1.156
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_Sunghir3.SG 0.904
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_Kostenki14.SG 1.448
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.302
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.883
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.533
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Papuan.DG -1.154
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Switzerland_Bichon.SG -0.253
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Israel_Natufian_published -2.380
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Turkey_N.SG 0.316
gendstat: Mbuti.DG Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic 0.598
gendstat: Mbuti.DG ONG.SG 0.148
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG China_Tianyuan 0.462
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -0.706
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_Sunghir3.SG 0.934
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_Kostenki14.SG 1.478
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.172
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.922
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.352
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Papuan.DG -0.875
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Switzerland_Bichon.SG -0.126
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Israel_Natufian_published -2.175
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Turkey_N.SG 0.386
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic 0.629
gendstat: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG ONG.SG 0.255
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Goyet_Neanderthal.SG -1.094
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_Sunghir3.SG 0.461
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_Kostenki14.SG 0.941
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_MA1_HG.SG -0.546
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 0.470
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG -0.855
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Papuan.DG -1.348
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Switzerland_Bichon.SG -0.546
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Israel_Natufian_published -2.406
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Turkey_N.SG -0.111
gendstat: China_Tianyuan Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic 0.122
gendstat: China_Tianyuan ONG.SG -0.265
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Russia_Sunghir3.SG 1.520
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Russia_Kostenki14.SG 2.012
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Russia_MA1_HG.SG 0.461
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Georgia_Satsurblia.SG 1.451
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Russia_DevilsCave_N.SG 0.419
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Papuan.DG -0.026
gendstat: Goyet_Neanderthal.SG Switzerland_Bichon.SG 0.535
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gendstat: Turkey_N.SG ONG.SG -0.169
gendstat: Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic ONG.SG -0.469

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Joachim
12-07-2022, 01:45 PM
Don't minoans and myceneans get 40-50% iran_N/chg on admixture calculators?
How can then they be 9% iranN?

kingmob
12-07-2022, 04:25 PM
The new Southern Arc samples show higher Iran_N/Levant compared to when this post was made but not in the ballpark of what you are saying.

Joachim
12-07-2022, 07:53 PM
The new Southern Arc samples show higher Iran_N/Levant compared to when this post was made but not in the ballpark of what you are saying.

I dunno,on k12b and other calcs they are getting half Caucasus.
On Oracle they get half kavkaz+half Sardinian.


Dodecad:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 41.18
2 Caucasus 38.02
3 North_European 13.1
4 Southwest_Asian 5.43
5 Gedrosia 2.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.44
2 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.77
3 TSI30 (Metspalu) 10.8
4 Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.96
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.18
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.34
7 Greek (Dodecad) 14.66
8 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.05
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.94
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.96
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.08
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 19.4
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 21.27
14 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.49
15 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 25.92
16 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 26
17 Cypriots (Behar) 26.15
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 26.72
19 Murcia (1000Genomes) 26.78
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 27.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.04
2 56.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43.5% Adygei (HGDP) @ 6.94
3 56.8% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43.2% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 7.08
4 57.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.7% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 7.33
5 85.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 14.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 7.89
6 68.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 31.3% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 8.4
7 57.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.3% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 8.47
8 77% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 8.53
9 76.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.5% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 8.58
10 86.5% Tuscan (HGDP) + 13.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 8.62
11 89.5% Tuscan (HGDP) + 10.5% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 8.64
12 94% Tuscan (HGDP) + 6% Georgians (Behar) @ 8.85
13 91.9% Tuscan (HGDP) + 8.1% Armenians (Behar) @ 8.86
14 75.2% Tuscan (HGDP) + 24.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 8.92
15 77.2% Tuscan (HGDP) + 22.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 9
16 94.6% Tuscan (HGDP) + 5.4% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 9.02
17 86.1% Tuscan (HGDP) + 13.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 9.02
18 92.9% Tuscan (HGDP) + 7.1% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 9.03
19 93.9% Tuscan (HGDP) + 6.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 9.11
20 93.4% Tuscan (HGDP) + 6.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 9.12


This dilemma seems very similar to Lebanese who on gpAdm and g25 and formal admix tools get 20% iranN/chg while in other official studies they are Modelled as half iran_chl ,so 40-45% iranN/chg ,and on gedmatch they also get high Caucasus/gedrosian,iranN/chg

kingmob
12-07-2022, 08:09 PM
Can't compare pca calculator results to fstats. Those k12b components are based on moderns to begin with.

Joachim
12-09-2022, 04:07 PM
Can't compare pca calculator results to fstats. Those k12b components are based on moderns to begin with.
So the oracles are untrustworthy too?
Considering they are getting half north Caucasus/chg + half Sardinian on oracles

kingmob
12-09-2022, 04:11 PM
So the oracles are untrustworthy too?
Considering they are getting half north Caucasus/chg + half Sardinian on oracles


Those old admixture calculators are not trustworthy.

People keep adding samples w/o even checking the coverage with the references, some stuff in there is even below 30% SNP coverage, it's clownshoes.

kingmob
12-09-2022, 04:14 PM
The method with which qpAdm circumvents the coverage issue is because it has a built-in imputation process.

Not a 100% ideal situation, but light years ahead from those ADMIXTURE sheets floating around on the web.