Post your G25 Davidski "gold standard" results

[rothaer]

There is likely already such a thread but I did not find it among the newer ones, so it would better have to be repeated anyway. Use scaled coords.

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.html

To me my WHG seems quite high. Curious to see who might have higher.

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.0438% / 0.04384142
48.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.0 TUR_Barcin_N
16.8 WHG

[FinalFlash]

Where is this calculator?

[J. Ketch]

There is likely already such a thread but I did not find it among the newer ones, so it would better have to be repeated anyway. Use scaled coords. Often Davidski tells these results in the email where he sends the coords, so maybe just have a look there. To me my WHG seems quite high. Curious to see who might have higher.


rothaer_scaled
distance%=4.4247

Yamnaya_Samara,48
Barcin_N,35.4
WHG,16.6
Your WHG is higher because of your Balto-Slavic element.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 0.0578% / 0.05775962
49.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.9 WHG

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 0.0404% / 0.04037103
48.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.8 TUR_Barcin_N
14.4 WHG

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 0.0601% / 0.06012712
49.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.6 TUR_Barcin_N
15.5 WHG

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03737256
51.5 TUR_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.9 WHG
3.3 MAR_Taforalt
0.1 Han


Where is this calculator?
Here, the op should add it
https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.html

[frankhammer]

Target: yh_scaled
Distance: 0.0441% / 0.04406384
44.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.2 TUR_Barcin_N
15.1 WHG

[Coastal Elite]

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 0.0326% / 0.03259936
46.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
45.7 TUR_Barcin_N
7.6 WHG

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 0.0391% / 0.03913763
47.7 TUR_Barcin_N
31.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
6.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.7 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.5 Dinka
0.7 Yoruba

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0387% / 0.03866146
50.5 TUR_Barcin_N
28.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.3 WHG
7.7 MAR_Taforalt
2.4 Gambian
0.1 Han

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0383% / 0.03829758
51.9 TUR_Barcin_N
30.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.7 WHG
3.7 MAR_Taforalt
2.3 Dinka

[Kyp]

Target: Kyp_scaled
Distance: 0.0349% / 0.03494151
44.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
36.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.1 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
4.4 WHG
3.2 Han
2.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.9 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Target: Mother
Distance: 0.0378% / 0.03777059
45.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG

[HelloGuys]

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 0.0271% / 0.02706875
35.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.6 TUR_Barcin_N
12.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.1 WHG
5.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.9 MAR_Taforalt
2.4 Yoruba


Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02067314
34.5 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
26.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.5 WHG
6.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.8 MAR_Taforalt
3.7 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.1 Yoruba
1.3 Dinka
0.9 Han


Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0248% / 0.02476534
41.5 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.6 WHG
2.4 Yoruba
1.9 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.2 MAR_Taforalt
0.3 Han


Target: Sister_scaled
Distance: 0.0228% / 0.02277624
37.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.5 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.0 WHG
3.5 MAR_Taforalt
3.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.0 Yoruba
1.1 Han
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

[SouthDutch7991]

Feels like I have a lot of EEF for British/German only.

Target: SouthDutch_scaled
Distance: 0.0427% / 0.04273151
44.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.3 TUR_Barcin_N
14.6 WHG

[paradox]

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0306% / 0.03058988
46.5 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.7 TUR_Barcin_N
3.4 WHG
2.1 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.1 Levant_PPNB

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 0.0449% / 0.04485206
40.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
28.6 TUR_Barcin_N
25.3 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.3 WHG

[rothaer]

(...)

Yeah, the western fringe of NW Europe gets higher Yamnaya than me. My imagination: This will be because the steppe pastoralists expanded into areas that were not that suitable for agriculture (Scotland, Ireland), hence sparsely populated, and therefore could become a somewhat bigger proportion of the population.


Your WHG is higher because of your Balto-Slavic element.

Then I'll wait for the Eastern Europeans to beat me. Some will likely do. But it will not be that simple. You'll see. :p

[Peterski]

My results:

Peterski_scaled

Yamnaya_Samara - 52.4%
Barcin_N - 35.2%
WHG - 12.4%

That said, I'm not sure if WHG is the best choice to use here, because in Davidski's datasheet the WHG average is based only on two samples:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrhcfNMLW0oMXIbHGUE60v2taCM7PFw1/view

WHG:I1875
WHG:Rochedane

And European hunter-gatherers were quite diverse, even within the "WHG label". For example Polish hunter-gatherer is closest to Lithuanian HG:

https://i.imgur.com/VqYD5Cv.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 0.0407% / 0.04074109
53.5 TUR_Barcin_N
30.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 WHG
5.8 MAR_Taforalt

[Russki]

Then I'll wait for the Eastern Europeans to beat me. Some will likely do. But it will not be that simple. You'll see. :p

Do you see WHG scores on G25 as some kind of competition? :p

Since WHG on G25 peaks in Lithuanians/Latvians, and in Estonians/Finns it already gets lower, it's basically arguing who is more Lithuanian/Latvian :p

[Peterski]

^^^
When I remove WHG and use the Polish hunter-gatherer instead, my results are:

Peterski_scaled:

Yamnaya_RUS_Samara - 49.6%
TUR_Barcin_N - 35.2%
POL_BKG_N_o1 - 15.2%

^^^
So Barcin stays exactly the same, but some of the Yamnaya goes to Polish HG.

Here are scaled coordinates for the Polish HG if someone wants to try as well:


Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1252054,0.0891408,0.0430338,0 .1150967,-0.0285181,0.0453663,0.0046478,-0.002513,-0.0555623,-0.0727931,0.0006676,0.0005994,-0.0030724,-0.023564,0.0363427,0.0152183,-0.0007246,-0.0015204,-0.0039106,0.0140344,-0.0036879,0.000426,0.0109278,0.0184497,-0.0043241
TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
POL_BKG_N_o1,0.134311,0.11577,0.190446,0.187987,0. 136025,0.063866,0.017156,0.03046,0.069743,-0.011481,-0.003897,-0.017534,0.023934,-0.004679,0.03013,0.053168,0.016428,0.004054,-0.002137,0.05315,0.074743,0.012613,-0.035249,-0.135682,0.017364

And here is the WHG average (which is currently based on two samples - I1875 and Rochedane):


WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045

[rothaer]

(...)

I regard this calculator wrong anyhow. As my separate WHG-EHG calculator shows it notably overestimates WHG, because a surplus of EHG compared to the chosen EHG/CHG mixture in Yamnaya Samara will be pushed into WHG as the best fitting component (EHG is not provided). But let it be how it is, the value of this calculator is it's commonality and thus comparability compared to that everybody is using another "best" calculator.

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.15183177 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.20688415 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.20994545 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.21790130 TUR_Barcin_N
0.26144270 Levant_PPNB
0.33215023 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33306373 WHG
0.38540696 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.46495157 Jarawa
0.48349269 MAR_Taforalt
0.61751779 Han
0.61816062 Nganassan
0.66704718 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67753663 ETH_4500BP
0.73679247 Dinka
0.75178874 Gambian
0.77737849 Yoruba

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0541% / 0.05410191
50.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.7 TUR_Barcin_N
13.3 WHG

[rothaer]

Do you see WHG scores on G25 as some kind of competition? :p

Since WHG on G25 peaks in Lithuanians/Latvians, and in Estonians/Finns it already gets lower, it's basically arguing who is more Lithuanian/Latvian :p

As a German I'm not afraid of starting competitions that I'm going to lose. :p

And fortunately there are not so many Lithuanians here...

[Peterski]

I regard this calculator wrong anyhow. As my separate WHG-EHG calculator shows it notably overestimates WHG, because a surplus of EHG compared to the chosen EHG/CHG mixture in Yamnaya Samara will be pushed into WHG as the best fitting component (EHG is not provided). But let it be how it is, the value of this calculator is it's commonality and thus comparability compared to that everybody is using another "best" calculator.

I don't think that it overestimates WHG. Proportions of Samara / Anatolia / WHG from Global25 are usually consistent with those from official studies.

For example this is what Polish Bell Beakers (from Samborzec) get in official study - if I remember correctly in G25 they get very similar proportiions:

- 46% Yamnaya Samara
- 38% Anatolia Neolithic
- 16% WHG

^^^ See BB_Poland_Sam[borzec]:

https://i.imgur.com/A6kST0N.png

^^^ From - https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2017/05/09/135962.DC1/135962-1.pdf

[PLogan]

Target: PLogan_scaled
Distance: 0.0631% / 0.06314904
47.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.5 TUR_Barcin_N
12.2 WHG


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 0.0500% / 0.04997159
47.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.1 WHG


Target: Mother_scaled
Distance: 0.0586% / 0.05863195
46.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.3 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 WHG

[rothaer]

When I remove WHG and use the Polish hunter-gatherer instead, my results are: (...)

Yeah, yeah... but no exceptions for Peterska here.

[rothaer]

I don't think that it overestimates WHG. Proportions of Samara / Anatolia / WHG from Global25 are usually consistent with those from official studies.

For example this is what Polish Bell Beakers (from Samborzec) get in official study - if I remember correctly in G25 they get very similar proportiions:

- 46% Yamnaya Samara
- 38% Anatolia Neolithic
- 16% WHG


Yes, because they all use this (wrong) calculator that does not provide a separate EHG component. When that is provided, WHG goes notably down. But as I said, it's value is its comparability.

[Peterski]

Then I'll wait for the Eastern Europeans to beat me. Some will likely do. But it will not be that simple. You'll see. :p

One of my cousins is close, interesting because this is the one who is NE-shifted or "Baltic-shifted" compared to typical Wielkopolska Poles:

53.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
30.4 TUR_Barcin_N
16.4 WHG

[J. Ketch]

ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso is the most pure WHG btw, the others have minor ANE by comparison.

ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso,0.1225497,0.1120467,0.2 008793,0.2048907,0.1728527,0.0618207,0.0160593,0.0 412293,0.108602,0.0271533,-0.0193243,-0.0143373,0.0162043,-0.0086703,0.0708007,0.069035,0.0002173,0.0120353,-0.0099303,0.0637807,0.118,0.0113347,-0.0608843,-0.1971763,0.021994

With that instead of WHG I get over the magical 50% Steppe mark :p (but Russian Yamnaya is not even the right ancestral source).

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 0.0583% / 0.05834282
50.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.7 TUR_Barcin_N
12.7 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 0.0411% / 0.04112575
50.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.5 TUR_Barcin_N
12.3 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 0.0609% / 0.06087642
51.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.3 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso

[Peterski]

(but Russian Yamnaya is not even the right ancestral source)

But we still do not have any DNA samples from the right ancestral source. Or do we?

[J. Ketch]

But we still do not have any DNA samples from the right ancestral source. Or do we?
I guess not.

[rothaer]

One of my cousins is close, interesting because this is the one who is NE-shifted or "Baltic-shifted" compared to typical Wielkopolska Poles:

53.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
30.4 TUR_Barcin_N
16.4 WHG

Close to me, yes. But wow, he is a top and bottom scorer in Yamnaya and Barcin respectively (among Europeans)!

[oszkar07]

what does this show ?

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 0.0512% / 0.05115305
46.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.4 TUR_Barcin_N
13.4 WHG


Distance to: Oszkar
0.16220768 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.19210756 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.19931613 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20539249 TUR_Barcin_N
0.24755727 Levant_PPNB
0.32793704 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33488091 WHG
0.38779369 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.46498228 Jarawa
0.48287915 MAR_Taforalt
0.61544803 Nganassan
0.61553855 Han
0.66503839 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67603065 ETH_4500BP
0.73659651 Dinka
0.75079752 Gambian
0.77653537 Yoruba

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 0.0356% / 0.03558161
52.3 TUR_Barcin_N
29.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.6 WHG
4.9 MAR_Taforalt


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 0.0340% / 0.03402769
52.7 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.4 WHG
4.7 MAR_Taforalt
0.6 Gambian

[rothaer]

ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso is (...) With that instead of WHG I get (...)

One Pole among us and already all order dissolves... [dispair smiley]

[Peterski]

My grandfather's brother is also close to Rothaer in WHG. And he is the only person in my family who scores Levant_PPNB:

Target: WladMeller_scaled
Distance: 0.0636% / 0.06360341
52.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
29.0 TUR_Barcin_N
16.1 WHG
2.9 Levant_PPNB

Shalom!

Edit:

Wow, less than 30% Barcin. Who can beat this?

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 0.0499% / 0.04993941
43.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.0 TUR_Barcin_N
15.2 POL_BKG_N_o1

[rothaer]

My grandfather's brother is also close to Rothaer in WHG. And he is the only person in my family who scores Levant_PPNB:

Target: WladMeller_scaled
Distance: 0.0636% / 0.06360341
52.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
29.0 TUR_Barcin_N
16.1 WHG
2.9 Levant_PPNB

Shalom!

Edit:

Wow, less than 30% Barcin. Who can beat this?

Very interesting.

Barcin is basically the wog proxy. In low Barcin competition of course is disqualified who has even woggier Levant among his results. But your other relative with 30.x % Barcin and without Levant actually holds the low wog record.

[Peterski]

My another cousin has probably the highest Yamnaya in this thread so far:

Target: Grzegorz_scaled
Distance: 0.0596% / 0.05955720
55.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.0 TUR_Barcin_N
13.7 WHG

[AndreAndre]

Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 0.0658% / 0.06576391
53.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
26.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG
2.5 Nganassan
1.8 Han

[rothaer]

Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 0.0658% / 0.06576391
53.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
26.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG
2.5 Nganassan
1.8 Han

Okay, this is maybe the un-woggiest European till now.

[Peterski]

Okay, this is maybe the un-woggiest European till now.

But the chinkiest so far:

2.5 Nganassan
1.8 Han


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6JnalpRf0

[AndreAndre]

Okay, this is maybe the un-woggiest European till now.

Han & Nganassan are rather wog imo. But my WHG is indeed one of the highest in this thread

[Peterski]

Who can be un-woggy and un-chinky at the same time? Any hero?

[Russki]

^^^

I tried to model the Irish without Yamnaya, as simply TUR_Barcin_N + WHG, and it led to both Nganasan and Han

https://sun9-77.userapi.com/impg/_hexZ1TrboXbToL53i6RxvzXyS2t0ov8kNwDAg/B-gJLij5V8E.jpg?size=1080x379&quality=95&sign=2badb0f8c2681f990a8862aaba1e808d&type=album

[calxpal]

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 3.8638% / 0.03863770
47.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.0 TUR_Barcin_N
11.2 WHG

[Peterski]

^^^

I tried to model the Irish without Yamnaya, as simply TUR_Barcin_N + WHG, and it led to both Nganasan and Han

https://sun9-77.userapi.com/impg/_hexZ1TrboXbToL53i6RxvzXyS2t0ov8kNwDAg/B-gJLij5V8E.jpg?size=1080x379&quality=95&sign=2badb0f8c2681f990a8862aaba1e808d&type=album

^^^ Maybe add AfontovaGora3 and check again.

[Russki]

...


^^^
In this case we get even more, so it evens out.

https://sun9-31.userapi.com/impg/D2u8bOUsLE3ObP-Y5gT7RMDqFqw_SOB4Hdel0Q/81dsPJSWY30.jpg?size=1080x532&quality=95&sign=2fb1766d459d725661a1d61f78d2935b&type=album


Yamnaya, with its EHG element, has an ability to cover it up to some extent.

[cakmir7y]

Using original dataset

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 0.0463% / 0.04629845
46.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.3 TUR_Barcin_N
15.8 WHG


With Polish HG instead of WHG. Gives somewhat better fit, based on distance.

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 0.0412% / 0.04119173
43.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.0 TUR_Barcin_N
18.7 POL_BKG_N_o1


And with Italian HG, comparably the worst fit.

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 0.0484% / 0.04840623
48.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.1 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0483% / 0.04825957
50.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.3 TUR_Barcin_N
15.5 WHG

My mother's result


Target: Bridget_scaled
Distance: 0.0474% / 0.04737209
51.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.8 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG

[Defcon2]

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 4.8119% / 0.04811909
55.4 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 WHG
4.2 MAR_Taforalt
1.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.0 Yoruba
0.6 Han

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 4.8997% / 0.04899692 | R4P
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
6.0 MAR_Taforalt

[gixajo]

........

¿Han cambiado las sources? Me da la impresión de que mis porcentajes han cambiado algo.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03741888
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.1 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0358% / 0.03580141
58.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0487% / 0.04870147
52.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

[Peterski]

^^^
In this case we get even more, so it evens out.

Impossible, maybe you did something wrong.

It should be replaced by Ancient North Eurasian.

(AfontovaGora3 is ANE individual like Malta Boy)

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 0.0575% / 0.05746266
45.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.2 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 WHG

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.16579327 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.19183145 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.20122946 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20436045 TUR_Barcin_N
0.24654570 Levant_PPNB
0.32465625 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33845363 WHG
0.38419848 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.46527727 Jarawa
0.47989935 MAR_Taforalt
0.61929251 Han
0.62256340 Nganassan
0.67121179 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67393618 ETH_4500BP
0.73353122 Dinka
0.74879079 Gambian
0.77462777 Yoruba

Po Polsku:

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 0.0556% / 0.05557432
43.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.8 TUR_Barcin_N
14.9 POL_BKG_N_o1

[Russki]

Impossible, maybe you did something wrong.

It should be replaced by Ancient North Eurasian.

(AfontovaGora3 is ANE individual like Malta Boy)



I figured why Davidski chose Yamnaya instead of ANE for his standard pack

https://sun9-47.userapi.com/impg/AScbljAymVMdMS63RsizVEzO1a6TVttoqx9otA/HcIXuc2n85s.jpg?size=835x415&quality=95&sign=9bddcc6b11cec01e7554a821b0b43293&type=album

[Defcon2]

¿Han cambiado las sources? Me da la impresión de que mis porcentajes han cambiado algo.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03741888
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.1 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0358% / 0.03580141
58.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0487% / 0.04870147
52.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

No noto nada diferente.

[Russki]

Impossible, maybe you did something wrong.

It should be replaced by Ancient North Eurasian.

(AfontovaGora3 is ANE individual like Malta Boy)




Here I run the entire Davidski pack, but with Ancient North Eurasian instead of Yamnaya

https://sun9-53.userapi.com/impg/v6ybpdXCyxcrXyFJueNmbybaBuk_VWuU2e_z3A/58XB3W_ZvXE.jpg?size=1262x467&quality=95&sign=ef5297234f516547391d7122b13a399c&type=album




Conclusion: Davidski is a bastard

[Peterski]

I figured why Davidski chose Yamnaya instead of ANE for his standard pack

https://sun9-47.userapi.com/impg/AScbljAymVMdMS63RsizVEzO1a6TVttoqx9otA/HcIXuc2n85s.jpg?size=835x415&quality=95&sign=9bddcc6b11cec01e7554a821b0b43293&type=album

Now add also CHG and probably Barcin will decline a lot.

(because Yamnaya brought also CHG in addition to ANE)

=====

CHG = Kotias or Satsurblia (Caucasus Hunter Gatherers)

[rothaer]

Who can be un-woggy and un-chinky at the same time? Any hero?

You kind of want to add one more alternative to disqualify, right? :) But I get the point, yes. :thumb001:

[rothaer]

Here I run the entire Davidski pack, but with Ancient North Eurasian instead of Yamnaya

https://sun9-53.userapi.com/impg/v6ybpdXCyxcrXyFJueNmbybaBuk_VWuU2e_z3A/58XB3W_ZvXE.jpg?size=1262x467&quality=95&sign=ef5297234f516547391d7122b13a399c&type=album

Conclusion: Davidski is a bastard

I still don't get why most people ignore EHG (Karelian HG as a proxy is suitable) in modelling. We have abt. 30-35% EHG, so this seems to me a notable proportion. And I'm not sure that EHG just equals a mixture of ANE and WHG with minor CHG, even if that may be a suitable approach for modelling EHG.

EDIT:

"Eastern Hunter-Gatherer (EHG) is a lineage which derived significant ancestry from ANE, ranging between 9% to up to 75%, with the remaining ancestry from a group more closely related to, but distinct from, Western Hunter-Gatherers (WHGs).[6][16] It is represented by two individuals from Karelia, one of Y-haplogroup R1a-M417, dated c. 8.4 kya, the other of Y-haplogroup J, dated c. 7.2 kya; and one individual from Samara, of Y-haplogroup R1b-P297, dated c. 7.6 kya. After the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, the Western Hunter-Gatherers (WHG) and EHG lineages merged in Eastern Europe, accounting for early presence of ANE-derived ancestry in Mesolithic Europe. Evidence suggests that as Ancient North Eurasians migrated West from Eastern Siberia, they absorbed Western Hunter-Gatherers and other West Eurasian populations as well.[17]"

[Peterski]

Here I run the entire Davidski pack, but with Ancient North Eurasian instead of Yamnaya

https://sun9-53.userapi.com/impg/v6ybpdXCyxcrXyFJueNmbybaBuk_VWuU2e_z3A/58XB3W_ZvXE.jpg?size=1262x467&quality=95&sign=ef5297234f516547391d7122b13a399c&type=album

Conclusion: Davidski is a bastard

^^^
Kura-Araxes shows up only because there is no CHG in the pack.

=====

By the way RUS_AfontovaGora3 is the oldest individual with blonde hair:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210188-Blond-hair-originated-from-ANE-not-from-WHG

[Russki]

By the way RUS_AfontovaGora3 is the oldest individual with blonde hair:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210188-Blond-hair-originated-from-ANE-not-from-WHG


AfontovaGora3 adds up to lighter hair

https://sun9-81.userapi.com/impf/tBVoF9FIeop93b-bULAMKCqkmAN70KHtR6qhGw/8ePEa9p18O8.jpg?size=1080x443&quality=95&sign=62c64a76fa4ff53bbce801e53a7c6ca9&type=album

https://sun9-73.userapi.com/impf/lJfg7j5IlKQYv8PFnuo1iMXP61xP6WDZzKdc5g/Qrxx9Ja347g.jpg?size=1080x450&quality=95&sign=1639293cda86b69c04b3025bacacc664&type=album

Perfectly adds up

Estonians differ from Lithuanians in absolutely identical way as Russians differ from Belarusians

Which is why I said that competing in WHG scores = competing who is more Lithuanian :)

[mitalit]

¿Han cambiado las sources? Me da la impresión de que mis porcentajes han cambiado algo.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03741888
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.1 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0358% / 0.03580141
58.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0487% / 0.04870147
52.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Yes, has changed a bit
Compare it with my signature.


Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03737256
51.5 TUR_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.9 WHG
3.3 MAR_Taforalt
0.1 Han

[mitalit]

repeated

[gixajo]

Yes, has changed a bit
Compare it with my signature.


¿Han cambiado las sources? Me da la impresión de que mis porcentajes han cambiado algo.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03741888
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.1 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0358% / 0.03580141
58.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0487% / 0.04870147
52.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Ah vale, es que usé directamente el calculador del enlace, si uso el vahaduo "vacío" de github.io que es el que suelo usar, cambian algo los resultados:


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.7422% / 0.03742166
54.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.2 WHG
2.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.5801% / 0.03580141
58.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 4.8702% / 0.04870234
52.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.2 WHG
2.0 MAR_Taforalt

[gixajo]

AfontovaGora3 adds up to lighter hair

https://sun9-81.userapi.com/impf/tBVoF9FIeop93b-bULAMKCqkmAN70KHtR6qhGw/8ePEa9p18O8.jpg?size=1080x443&quality=95&sign=62c64a76fa4ff53bbce801e53a7c6ca9&type=album

https://sun9-73.userapi.com/impf/lJfg7j5IlKQYv8PFnuo1iMXP61xP6WDZzKdc5g/Qrxx9Ja347g.jpg?size=1080x450&quality=95&sign=1639293cda86b69c04b3025bacacc664&type=album

Perfectly adds up

Estonians differ from Lithuanians in absolutely identical way as Russians differ from Belarusians

Which is why I said that competing in WHG scores = competing who is more Lithuanian :)

Distances are horrendous, you need more components to model these peoples. Even my mother gets better distances than Russians, Lithuanians etc with that model...

Target: Belarusian
Distance: 9.8107% / 0.09810740
29.0 TUR_Barcin_N
26.6 WHG
22.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
22.0 RUS_AfontovaGora3

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.2199% / 0.05219920
53.8 TUR_Barcin_N
19.8 WHG
15.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
10.8 RUS_AfontovaGora3

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.9124% / 0.04912373
60.6 TUR_Barcin_N
15.2 WHG
12.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
11.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 6.1828% / 0.06182829
53.2 TUR_Barcin_N
20.6 WHG
14.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
12.2 RUS_AfontovaGora3

[Russki]

Distances are horrendous, you need more components to model these peoples. Even my mother gets better distances than Russians, Lithuanians etc with that model...

Target: Belarusian
Distance: 9.8107% / 0.09810740
29.0 TUR_Barcin_N
26.6 WHG
22.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
22.0 RUS_AfontovaGora3

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.2199% / 0.05219920
53.8 TUR_Barcin_N
19.8 WHG
15.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
10.8 RUS_AfontovaGora3

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.9124% / 0.04912373
60.6 TUR_Barcin_N
15.2 WHG
12.4 RUS_AfontovaGora3
11.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 6.1828% / 0.06182829
53.2 TUR_Barcin_N
20.6 WHG
14.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
12.2 RUS_AfontovaGora3




I actually used Davidski's standard calculator, but with Ancient North Eurasian instead of Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

I just didn't print zeroes to make it more readable :)

https://sun9-20.userapi.com/impf/-XUm2xYzZTgc70uZFK1-_vSVeE4dL70plkcgAQ/tFtrexntoYQ.jpg?size=1259x345&quality=95&sign=7b8fe227ed1f4f9c04cc4ddec084dda7&type=album

https://sun9-16.userapi.com/impf/1sdmSgD2XEovwx7PwilwpgniRwv7aSd2h6K2SQ/OtE4rXR4G9g.jpg?size=1259x311&quality=95&sign=506777da0d19fac137443fcf99a4dd4d&type=album

[gixajo]

I actually used Davidski's standard calculator, but with Ancient North Eurasian instead of Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

I just didn't print zeroes to make it more readable :)

https://sun9-83.userapi.com/impf/xxAwvtwfAWFCm00vsGT_BTKSea_c5KjORw2uog/_tIJhAO9lMw.jpg?size=1257x315&quality=95&sign=ddde6a5f57c64a78f97cfa491517b7d0&type=album

https://sun9-16.userapi.com/impf/1sdmSgD2XEovwx7PwilwpgniRwv7aSd2h6K2SQ/OtE4rXR4G9g.jpg?size=1259x311&quality=95&sign=506777da0d19fac137443fcf99a4dd4d&type=album

if you have changed original sources, it´s not Davidski's standard calculator.

[Russki]

if you have changed original sources, it´s not Davidski's standard calculator.



The biggest flaw of Davidski's calculator is that he buries ANE inside Yamnaya.

Finns are notably lighter than Lithuanians, but Davidski's calculator would make them darker.

https://sun1-13.userapi.com/impf/dZ_nNswMOis81rr35uFbjc-qwn2WJ9-5xhHVrw/YEjcNPE-ehw.jpg?size=1141x445&quality=95&sign=3bd6f7e28da5fd3e44bc0882c5691dc1&type=album


Blond hair originated from ANE not from WHG

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210188-Blond-hair-originated-from-ANE-not-from-WHG

[AndreAndre]

The biggest flaw of Davidski's calculator is that he buries ANE inside Yamnaya.

Finns are notably lighter than Lithuanians, but Davidski's calculator would make them darker.

https://sun1-13.userapi.com/impf/dZ_nNswMOis81rr35uFbjc-qwn2WJ9-5xhHVrw/YEjcNPE-ehw.jpg?size=1141x445&quality=95&sign=3bd6f7e28da5fd3e44bc0882c5691dc1&type=album

Neither yamnaya nor (lol) ANE were light people though. Every ancient group was dark. The genes for light color are very recent development. Saamis are more northern and more WHG than Finn's yet are darker. Lithuanians are genetically identical to Finn's yet are darker. Maybe it's just recent sexual selection in Finland to blame for this, and not some ancient group (which was brown colored anyway)

[rothaer]

Don't desecrate Davidski's "gold standard".

[rothaer]

(...) Which is why I said that competing in WHG scores = competing who is more Lithuanian :)

Hey, don't distract and don't cheat by changing the calculator. :)

Regardless of your acrobacy 16.8% WHG is still the high score. I better wait for real competitors. :p

[gixajo]

Don't desecrate Davidski's "gold standard".

Sure Davidski's model could be improved, but certainly not in the way this person has done. Trying to bring out a supposed ANE component, what he has achieved is to model people with strange results and absurd distances. Those high distances indicate that the model lacks the adequate components to show something that can be considered close to reality.

[Russki]

Sure Davidski's model could be improved, but certainly not in the way this person has done. Trying to bring out a supposed ANE component, what he has achieved is to model people with strange results and absurd distances. Those high distances indicate that the model lacks the adequate components to show something that can be considered close to reality.

Davidski's standard models Saamis as 50% Yamnaya, even though they never received any Indo-European migration.

I agree that ANE alone can't replace Yamnaya, but your distance of 3,7% vs 5,2% (depending on the model) is not a big difference.

[gixajo]

Davidski's standard models Saamis as 50% Yamnaya, even though they never received any Indo-European migration.

I agree that ANE alone can't replace Yamnaya, but your distance of 3,7% vs 5,2% (depending on the model) is not a big difference.

The problem with my mother getting better distances than references from NE Europe is that my mother has zero modern genetic input from that European Area and your model was "improved" to model people of NE Ancestry.

Post the exact references that you have used in your model, and we compare the distances of groups from NE Europe, to see what is the percentage of increase in distances with respect to the Davidski model.:)

I'm fine with experimenting with new things with these issues (I am the first one to do it),surely the original model could be improved, but please don't try to sell me the idea that your model is better than Davidski's.

Doubling the distances in the results of two models that claim to show the same thing, with references from the same periods, (admitting that with ancient samples we usually get higher distances than with modern ones) is something not insignificant, sorry.

[Russki]

The problem with my mother getting better distances than references from NE Europe is that my mother has zero modern genetic input from that European Area and your model was "improved" to model people of NE Ancestry.

You didn't address the issue that the highest Yamnaya scores are modeled in the places where Yamnayas never settled, but alright.

I will check out what model would be both logical and with the shortest distance possible.

[Peterski]

I agree that ANE alone can't replace Yamnaya

Just add CHG to the freaking model:


GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036

Yamnaya = EHG (which includes ANE) + CHG

[gixajo]

You didn't address the issue that the highest Yamnaya scores are modeled in the places where Yamnayas never settled, but alright.

I will check out what model would be both logical and with the shortest distance possible.

I understand what you have tried to do, but I think that what you have done does not achieve what was expected.

I don't agree with what you say, but I'm glad you say it, and now please leave me alone with that matter.

Thanks and good luck with your "improvement". :thumb001:

[Russki]

I understand what you have tried to do, but I think that what you have done does not achieve what was expected.

I don't agree with what you say, but I'm glad you say it, and now please leave me alone with that matter.

Thanks and good luck with your "improvement". :thumb001:

So instead of answering why Lapps are 50% Yamnaya in the model you are so defensive about, you just tell me "I don't agree with you"?

You know that it doesn't work like that, and neither it makes you look smart?

[Peterski]

why Lapps are 50% Yamnaya in the model

Maybe it is because the model lacks hunter-gatherers other than WHG. Try adding EHG, SHG [Scandinavian hunter-gatherers], etc.

But Lapps could actually assimilate some Indo-Europeans during their migration, this is not impossible.

[gixajo]

So instead of answering why Lapps are 50% Yamnaya in the model you are so defensive about, you just tell me "I don't agree with you"?

You know that it doesn't work like that, and neither it makes you look smart?

I don't give a shit how smart I seem to anyone.

And anyway, if you think you're so smart, don't look for an argument with me, look for it with someone as smart as you.

As I said, good luck, but I'm not interested in your war.

[Paleolithic]

Target: Paleolithic_scaled
Distance: 0.0679% / 0.06788961
51.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
29.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.6 WHG

[Paleolithic]

Bump

[Peterski]

Target: Paleolithic_scaled
Distance: 0.0679% / 0.06788961
51.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
29.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.6 WHG

You just defeated Rothaer. :)

What is your ethnicity?

[rothaer]

Bump

Ah, this is the Piotraschke sock! Having 18 posts and writing "bump" after a short period of time! :) :)

He obviously started when you got banned...

[Flashball]

Native French (genealogically speaking) samples results

PCA
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNvDURzXEAc1nJ8?format=jpg&name=large

Except Calvos samples, i have the genealogy of all these peoples and they are native french ("français de souche") since many generations
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/11/1/1647260939-resultsfrench.jpg


Mixed french results:
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/11/1/1647262950-mixedfrench.png

[Russki]

Ah, this is the Piotraschke sock! Having 18 posts and writing "bump" after a short period of time! :) :)

He obviously started when you got banned...

You damned Sherlock...

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 0.0433% / 0.04331520
47.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
43.9 TUR_Barcin_N
8.4 WHG
0.7 Han

[rothaer]

You damned Sherlock...

I just try to defend my title. :p

[Jana]

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 0.0437% / 0.04372170

44.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
42.9 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 WHG
0.1 Han

Target: Stears
Distance: 0.0393% / 0.03925462

49.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.4 TUR_Barcin_N
9.1 WHG
1.8 Han
1.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

[Jana]

Target: Feiichy_Mother(Croat-German-Serb-Greek)
Distance: 0.0439% / 0.04386632

44.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
44.2 TUR_Barcin_N
10.9 WHG

Target: Feiichy_Father(Croat-Bosniak)
Distance: 0.0473% / 0.04726843

44.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
42.4 TUR_Barcin_N
12.3 WHG
0.9 Han

Target: Hrvoje(Slovene-Croat-Czech)
Distance: 0.0367% / 0.03665386

49.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.8 TUR_Barcin_N
10.9 WHG

Target: Renato(coastal Croat)
Distance: 0.0630% / 0.06303939

43.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.5 TUR_Barcin_N
10.9 WHG
7.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

Target: Dominik(Croat-Albanian)
Distance: 0.0379% / 0.03790066

52.5 TUR_Barcin_N
42.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.0 WHG

[alexmegas777]

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.14471683 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.16136597 TUR_Barcin_N
0.16675029 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.18832088 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.20342132 Levant_PPNB
0.30927341 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.36845456 WHG
0.37819812 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.45990468 Jarawa
0.46405664 MAR_Taforalt
0.61275970 Han
0.61874511 Nganassan
0.66653150 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67374577 ETH_4500BP
0.73358756 Dinka
0.74615152 Gambian
0.77221549 Yoruba

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 0.0369% / 0.03693661
39.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.7 TUR_Barcin_N
15.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.0 WHG

[InfamousAngel99]

Target: InfAng99
Distance: 0.0419% / 0.04190142
47.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.3 TUR_Barcin_N
13.6 WHG

[alnortedelsur]

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[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 0.0367% / 0.03674693
38.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.7 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.3 WHG
6.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
5.6 MAR_Taforalt
3.3 Yoruba
0.4 Dinka

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 0.0420% / 0.04203752 | R5P
47.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 MAR_Taforalt
6.6 WHG
6.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP


Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.15327027 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.17180181 TUR_Barcin_N
0.17272774 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.19516239 Levant_PPNB
0.20448283 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.29688335 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.35826887 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.37630645 WHG
0.41047827 MAR_Taforalt
0.42585486 Jarawa
0.58050615 Han
0.59154796 Nganassan
0.61169304 ETH_4500BP
0.62308778 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67110501 Dinka
0.68512027 Gambian
0.71170826 Yoruba

[Erronkari]

Target: Mr.Wog
Distance: 0.0392% / 0.03920910
54.6 TUR_Barcin_N
26.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.4 WHG
3.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.5 Han
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

[axel.aleman]

Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 0.0307% / 0.03066673
25.3 Yoruba
19.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
18.1 TUR_Barcin_N
13.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.1 Han
6.3 Levant_PPNB
5.7 WHG
0.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

[MercifulServant]

Target: Decius_scaled
Distance: 0.0543% / 0.05433539
44.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.2 TUR_Barcin_N
10.7 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.8 WHG
0.2 Han

[SouthDutch7991]

Ancestry file ( other was FTDNA and Ances. average )

Target: SouthDutch_scaled:AncestryDNA
Distance: 0.0399% / 0.03993313
44.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.6 TUR_Barcin_N
15.0 WHG

This seems like a little bit high WHG for a west-leaning NW euro. Maybe.

[HelloGuys]

Target: Mr.Wog
Distance: 0.0392% / 0.03920910
54.6 TUR_Barcin_N
26.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.4 WHG
3.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.5 Han
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728


Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 0.0307% / 0.03066673
25.3 Yoruba
19.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
18.1 TUR_Barcin_N
13.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.1 Han
6.3 Levant_PPNB
5.7 WHG
0.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

I wonder the reason many latinamericans are scoring Shahr I Sokhta BA2 and Han in Davidski's model :confused:

[axel.aleman]

I wonder the reason many latinamericans are scoring Shahr I Sokhta BA2 and Han in Davidski's model :confused:

Yo tuve un bisabuelo chino

[HelloGuys]

Yo tuve un bisabuelo chino

Yeah; in your case makes sense, but what about the other latinamericans for example, and the Shahr I Sokhta as well.

[Defcon2]

I wonder the reason many latinamericans are scoring Shahr I Sokhta BA2 and Han in Davidski's model :confused:

It's probably just noise, I get more Sokhta than all you.

[someonenotyou]

Target:
Distance: 0.0391% / 0.03905251
47.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.4 TUR_Barcin_N
9.7 WHG
4.7 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

[HelloGuys]

It's probably just noise, I get more Sokhta than all you.

Higher than all of us except my dad jaja

Probably, I think in my family 's case maybe not, btw scoring a component more than .9% is not noise right?

[Defcon2]

Higher than all of us except my dad jaja

Probably, I think in my family 's case maybe not, btw scoring a component more than .9% is not noise right?

Depende, 1-3% suele estar dentro del rango de ruido.

[Ritz06]

Target:
Distance: 0.0237% / 0.02372710
42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
21.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
18.3 TUR_Barcin_N
5.7 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.9 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
3.9 Han
3.6 WHG

[drb234]

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 4.5117% / 0.04511676
44.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.0 TUR_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG

[hazmatnik]

Overloaded with Ciftlik

Target: hazmatnik_scaled
Distance: 5.8200% / 0.05819976
37.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
21.0 TUR_Barcin_N
9.6 WHG

[Flashball]

Target: Père(PicardieNorthernFrance)
Distance: 5.7780% / 0.05777986
44.2 TUR_Barcin_N
42.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0 WHG

Target: Sister(75%Française-25%Sarde)
Distance: 4.9064% / 0.04906448
57.6 TUR_Barcin_N
31.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.6 WHG
0.4 EasternHunterGatherer

Target: FlashBall(75%Français-25%Sarde)
Distance: 4.6636% / 0.04663584
56.8 TUR_Barcin_N
32.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.0 WHG
0.4 Han

Target: Mother(Sardo-Française)
Distance: 4.2465% / 0.04246502
63.4 TUR_Barcin_N
26.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.2 WHG
2.0 EasternHunterGatherer
0.4 Han

[Kiel]

Link doesnt work:(

[Jana]

Link doesnt work:(

thy this!


Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1252054,0.0891408,0.0430338,0 .1150967,-0.0285181,0.0453663,0.0046478,-0.002513,-0.0555623,-0.0727931,0.0006676,0.0005994,-0.0030724,-0.023564,0.0363427,0.0152183,-0.0007246,-0.0015204,-0.0039106,0.0140344,-0.0036879,0.000426,0.0109278,0.0184497,-0.0043241
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2,0.043708,-0.0327002,-0.170006,0.0950268,-0.1047582,0.0568936,0.0063452,0.0041998,0.0056858, 0.0067428,-0.0051964,0.0079128,-0.0018436,-0.0031928,0.0098534,0.0097852,-0.0023732,0.0025084,0.0016342,-0.0142568,0.0029694,-0.0125136,-0.0011832,-0.0119052,0.001317
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Mongola,0.031112,-0.4234757,0.0311753,-0.055556,0.0135407,0.0023243,0.00799,0.007077,-0.005454,0.0049813,-0.0609497,-0.0038967,0.0081763,-0.005138,-0.0047047,-0.002431,-0.000913,0.001605,0.002472,0.000792,0.003286,-0.0030503,0.0032047,0.0015263,-0.0011973

[Jana]

My grandma sis results

Target: Biljana_scaled
Distance: 4.2600% / 0.04260043

47.8 TUR_Barcin_N
43.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.8 WHG

[Jana]

Overloaded with Ciftlik

Target: hazmatnik_scaled
Distance: 5.8200% / 0.05819976
37.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
21.0 TUR_Barcin_N
9.6 WHG

That's crazy much! I never saw a Balkanite with such high East Med....you must have gotten massive Imperial Roman/Byzantine admix!

I for example score 0% Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

[Kiel]

Target: Kiel
Distance: 3.4839% / 0.03483948
46.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.6 TUR_Barcin_N
11.6 WHG

[Selene]

Target: Nixie_scaled
Distance: 4.4720% / 0.04472042
47.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
42.2 TUR_Barcin_N
9.8 WHG
0.2 Mongola

[HelloGuys]

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 0.0271% / 0.02706875
35.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.6 TUR_Barcin_N
12.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.1 WHG
5.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
4.9 MAR_Taforalt
2.4 Yoruba


Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02067314
34.5 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
26.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.5 WHG
6.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.8 MAR_Taforalt
3.7 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.1 Yoruba
1.3 Dinka
0.9 Han


Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0248% / 0.02476534
41.5 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.6 WHG
2.4 Yoruba
1.9 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.2 MAR_Taforalt
0.3 Han


Target: Sister_scaled
Distance: 0.0228% / 0.02277624
37.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.5 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.0 WHG
3.5 MAR_Taforalt
3.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.0 Yoruba
1.1 Han
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

I received my maternal grandparents results like 2 days ago :)

Target: Maternal_Grandpa_scaled
Distance: 2.4547% / 0.02454673
32.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
23.2 TUR_Barcin_N
15.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.8 WHG
3.6 MAR_Taforalt
2.2 Han
1.8 Yoruba
0.8 Dinka
0.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Target: Maternal_Grandma_scaled
Distance: 2.4696% / 0.02469555
36.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
24.2 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.4 WHG
4.8 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 ETH_4500BP
2.0 Yoruba
0.6 Han

[Russki]

To me my WHG seems quite high. Curious to see who might have higher.

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 0.0438% / 0.04384142
48.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.0 TUR_Barcin_N
16.8 WHG


https://i.imgur.com/UA9NgZq.png

[rothaer]

https://i.imgur.com/JkWIEmX.png

Interesting.

Real coords or simulated coords?

[cakmir7y]

Interesting.

Real coords or simulated coords?


With underscore "_sim" I guess they are simulated coord.

BTW, how or where could I get those simulated coords?

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 4.6454% / 0.04645359
45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
44.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.6 WHG
0.2 Nganassan

[hazmatnik]

Grandparents and aunts

Target: gm2_scaled
Distance: 5.4180% / 0.05417961
37.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
32.8 TUR_Barcin_N
20.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.8 WHG

Target: gm1_scaled
Distance: 4.2961% / 0.04296077
48.2 TUR_Barcin_N
43.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 WHG
0.4 Mongola

Target: gp2_scaled
Distance: 4.1172% / 0.04117205
43.4 TUR_Barcin_N
37.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.4 WHG
9.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.8 Mongola

Target: aunt1_scaled
Distance: 5.2345% / 0.05234539
43.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.8 TUR_Barcin_N
9.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
6.4 WHG

Target: aunt2_scaled
Distance: 4.2225% / 0.04222537
46.0 TUR_Barcin_N
41.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.8 WHG
4.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.4 Mongola

[Jingle Bell]

115257
What is the diference btw Tur_Barcin and Tur_Terpecik?

[Voskos]

115257
What is the diference btw Tur_Barcin and Tur_Terpecik?

I think Tepecik is more caucasus-hunter-gatherer shifted whilst Barcin must be pure Anatolian farmer. I could be wrong.

[Ratmir]

115257
What is the diference btw Tur_Barcin and Tur_Terpecik?
So you are a proverbial Blackzilian? Lol

What do your Eurogenes K13 results say?

[Jingle Bell]

I dont get the joke, i guess is bcs my english sucks, anyway i not rly black, in America yes, but here i a just a mulatto.
Anyway here the results:
115277
Generally in Oracle i got ant south Spain + SSA, and in Oracle-4 i generally get 1/4 Basque + 1/4 Jew from NA and 1/2 SSA, in g25 i got a huge Tepecik (14,4), Tepecik means east med/ Arabian or anything? I have a surname with jew origins so maybe Tepecik and my very low Yamnaya means a great amount of Jew + moor blood.:confused:

[vasiliki23]

Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 3.4684% / 0.03468416
44.4 TUR_Barcin_N
34.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.0 WHG
1.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

[Hawthorn_Grove]

Target: Hawthorn_Grove_scaled
Distance: 3.6685% / 0.03668480
45.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.6 TUR_Barcin_N
13.0 WHG

I have a Jewish great-grandparent and am a bit surprised I have no signal of Levant_PPNB or IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N, should I be?

[Jingle Bell]

Ur Tepecik or Levant is prob mistead in your Barcin

[Flashball]

Father:
Target: Père(PicardieNorthernFrance)
Distance: 5.6253% / 0.05625282
44.8 TUR_Barcin_N
42.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.6 WHG

Mother:
Target: Mère(Sardo-Française)
Distance: 4.1421% / 0.04142126
63.6 TUR_Barcin_N
26.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 WHG
1.4 EasternHunterGatherer

Me:
Target: Emilien(75%Français-25%Sarde)
Distance: 4.5352% / 0.04535180
57.2 TUR_Barcin_N
33.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG


Sister:
Target: Soeur(75%Française-25%Sarde)
Distance: 4.7725% / 0.04772519
57.8 TUR_Barcin_N
31.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG

[Kóryos]

Target: Kóryos_scaled
Distance: 5.1398% / 0.05139773
51.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
17.0 WHG

[Jingle Bell]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 2.1367% / 0.02136749
42.0 Yoruba
24.4 TUR_Barcin_N
11.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.2 WHG
4.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 ETH_4500BP
3.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
2.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

The lack of a Bantu/Central-South SSA sample is EEF shifting me

[Jingle Bell]

I received my maternal grandparents results like 2 days ago :)

Target: Maternal_Grandpa_scaled
Distance: 2.4547% / 0.02454673
32.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
23.2 TUR_Barcin_N
15.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.8 WHG
3.6 MAR_Taforalt
2.2 Han
1.8 Yoruba
0.8 Dinka
0.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Target: Maternal_Grandma_scaled
Distance: 2.4696% / 0.02469555
36.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
24.2 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.4 WHG
4.8 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 ETH_4500BP
2.0 Yoruba
0.6 Han

High Tepecik, Taforalt and IRN but low Yamnaya, maybe ur CHG ancestry which comes from PIE are begin misread?
Sry for ask, but do u have Serfadi ancestry?

[mitalit]

I dont get the joke, i guess is bcs my english sucks, anyway i not rly black, in America yes, but here i a just a mulatto.
Anyway here the results:
115277
Generally in Oracle i got ant south Spain + SSA, and in Oracle-4 i generally get 1/4 Basque + 1/4 Jew from NA and 1/2 SSA, in g25 i got a huge Tepecik (14,4), Tepecik means east med/ Arabian or anything? I have a surname with jew origins so maybe Tepecik and my very low Yamnaya means a great amount of Jew + moor blood.:confused:

I dont think those kind of calculators with modern populations are good for someone so mixed. I would trust more the ancient populations calcs, or the estimation of the company with which you took the test

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03737256
51.5 TUR_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.9 WHG
3.3 MAR_Taforalt
0.1 Han


Here, the op should add it
https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.html
updated with the whole genomics data

Target: XabierNew_scaled
Distance: 3.1546% / 0.03154577
50.2 TUR_Barcin_N
34.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.6 WHG
4.4 MAR_Taforalt

[rothaer]

After the OP can not be edited, here are the relevant source coords, i. e. Davidski's "gold standard":




Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0455292,0.0660095,-0.1518855,0.0026648,-0.1250232,0.0204982,0.0170972,-0.0017305,-0.0814005,-0.0579968,0.0004465,-0.001611,0.0072845,-0.0087735,0.0294512,0.0567152,-0.005248,0.0084882,0.007259,-0.037018,0.0075492,-0.0286258,-0.010322,-0.0404578,0.0265842
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.180641,0.120157,-0.097557,0.065539,0.0047,0.009461,0.035996,0.02678 9,-0.002273,0.003747,-0.005649,0.007982,0.003529,0.003182,0.008736,0.001 647,0.000126,-0.002001,0.001373,-0.008161,0.000246,-0.001928,-0.008023
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.0765462,0.163754,-0.0321495,-0.1368722,0.0360838,-0.0655392,-0.0129842,-0.014076,0.070254,0.0393175,0.0188778,-0.012551,0.0316648,0.001961,-0.027246,0.007657,0.0153525,-0.001267,-0.0038025,0.0192277,-0.0014352,0.0074502,0.000955,-0.0038258,-0.0047002
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246

[kingmob]

Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 2.4544% / 0.02454447
30.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
27.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
23.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.2 TUR_Barcin_N
1.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

[rothaer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 4.4063% / 0.04406284
48.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.6 WHG

Target: rothaer_child1_scaled
Distance: 4.2265% / 0.04226501
49.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.8 WHG

Target: rothaer_child2_scaled
Distance: 4.8512% / 0.04851213
47.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG

Target: rothaer_child3_scaled
Distance: 5.0958% / 0.05095788
50.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.8 WHG

Target: rothaer_child5_scaled
Distance: 4.7154% / 0.04715439
49.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.4 WHG

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 4.7329% / 0.04732926
51.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
32.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.6 WHG

Target: rothaer_child6_scaled
Distance: 4.0210% / 0.04020987
49.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.2 WHG

Target: rothaer_child7_scaled
Distance: 4.6388% / 0.04638757
52.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
32.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.0 WHG

Target: rothaer_child8_scaled
Distance: 4.6504% / 0.04650380
48.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.0 WHG

Target: rothaer_father_scaled
Distance: 3.9290% / 0.03929033
48.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG
1.0 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Target: rothaer_mother_scaled
Distance: 5.3001% / 0.05300094
48.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.2 WHG

Target: rothaer_gchild2-1_scaled
Distance: 5.1619% / 0.05161910
45.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.0 WHG

[PaulieVanZant]

Target: Stahlbestie
Distance: 4.6003% / 0.04600253
49.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.8 WHG

[HelloGuys]

115257
What is the diference btw Tur_Barcin and Tur_Terpecik?

Tepecik is a mixed Central Anatolian component with shift to Mesopotamia, we could say that Tepecik is the Southern component and Barcin the Northern.

Target: TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
Distance: 2.1837% / 0.02183736
77.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
11.0 Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer
8.6 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer
3.0 Iranian_Neolithic_Farmer

[HelloGuys]

High Tepecik, Taforalt and IRN but low Yamnaya, maybe ur CHG ancestry which comes from PIE are begin misread?
Sry for ask, but do u have Serfadi ancestry?

I saw your post right now, TA didn't notify me your quote.

If I remove the Tepecik then my grandma scores Natufian and with some different components in the model even Natufian + Iran N.

So yeah, it's very likely that my grandma has Sephardic Jew heritage so in consequence my mom, sister and myself too.

[vader]

Target: Algarve_scaled
Distance: 4.2500% / 0.04249988
49.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
28.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
5.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
4.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.2 Dinka

Target: Algarve_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.7226% / 0.03722590
52.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
6.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Target: Algarve_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.8873% / 0.03887301
47.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.0 WHG
5.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.4 Dinka
0.2 ETH_4500BP


Dinka runs in the family! :thumb001:

[Jana]

some coords I buy recently:

my best friend, from western Croatia

Target: D_scaled
Distance: 0.0487% / 0.04872880

46.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.1 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 WHG

my mom deceased partner, from western Croatia

Target: N_scaled
Distance: 0.0450% / 0.04501777

46.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.5 TUR_Barcin_N
12.3 WHG

a family friend, from eastern Croatia

Target: M_scaled
Distance: 0.0498% / 0.04976627

46.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.0 TUR_Barcin_N
13.1 WHG

and a son of a friend, half Bangladeshi

Target: N_scaled
Distance: 0.0399% / 0.03991203

31.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
20.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.1 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.3 WHG
7.1 Han
6.9 TUR_Barcin_N
5.6 Jarawa
0.6 Nganassan

[Jana]

friend results, half Croat half Albanian

Target: D_scaled
Distance: 0.0379% / 0.03790066

52.5 TUR_Barcin_N
42.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.0 WHG

[Kiel]

....

[Kiel]

Real coords

Target: Kiel
Distance: 3.7172% / 0.03717152
44.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.2 WHG
7.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

[Dušan]

After the OP can not be edited, here are the relevant source coords, i. e. Davidski's "gold standard":




Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0455292,0.0660095,-0.1518855,0.0026648,-0.1250232,0.0204982,0.0170972,-0.0017305,-0.0814005,-0.0579968,0.0004465,-0.001611,0.0072845,-0.0087735,0.0294512,0.0567152,-0.005248,0.0084882,0.007259,-0.037018,0.0075492,-0.0286258,-0.010322,-0.0404578,0.0265842
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.180641,0.120157,-0.097557,0.065539,0.0047,0.009461,0.035996,0.02678 9,-0.002273,0.003747,-0.005649,0.007982,0.003529,0.003182,0.008736,0.001 647,0.000126,-0.002001,0.001373,-0.008161,0.000246,-0.001928,-0.008023
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.0765462,0.163754,-0.0321495,-0.1368722,0.0360838,-0.0655392,-0.0129842,-0.014076,0.070254,0.0393175,0.0188778,-0.012551,0.0316648,0.001961,-0.027246,0.007657,0.0153525,-0.001267,-0.0038025,0.0192277,-0.0014352,0.0074502,0.000955,-0.0038258,-0.0047002
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246







Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 5.8808% / 0.05880815
43.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
42.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.4 WHG
4.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

[Rafael Passoni]

Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 2.6405% / 0.02640456
62.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.0 WHG
2.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

[Selene]

Target: Nixie_scaled
Distance: 4.4720% / 0.04472042
47.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
42.2 TUR_Barcin_N
9.8 WHG
0.2 Mongola

With real coords:


Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 5.2429% / 0.05242856
46.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
43.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.8 WHG
1.2 Han

[ugochaves]

ugo_scaled

distance%=6.4989"
Yamnaya_Samara,53
Barcin_N,27.8
WHG,17.6
Han,1.2
Clovis,0.4

ugo_wife_scaled

Distance: 7.2221% / 0.07222058
53.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
28.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
17.4 WHG
0.4 Han

[ugochaves]

With real coords:


Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 5.2429% / 0.05242856
46.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
43.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.8 WHG
1.2 Han

Where does East Asia come from for all Slavs? It's amazing that even Serbs and Croats have it.

[gixajo]

ugo_scaled

distance%=6.4989"
Yamnaya_Samara,53
Barcin_N,27.8
WHG,17.6
Han,1.2
Clovis,0.4

ugo_wife_scaled

Distance: 7.2221% / 0.07222058
53.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
28.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
17.4 WHG
0.4 Han

Nah, forget it. Fantastic results!

[Wend-Kruzek]

on-this-calc:

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 5.4540% / 0.05454045
49.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.4 TUR_Barcin_N
13.8 WHG


Distance to: Wend-Kruzek_scaled
0.15205056 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.20346860 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20521158 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.21904150 TUR_Barcin_N
0.25968017 Levant_PPNB
0.32461207 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33120151 WHG
0.38222892 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.46119860 Jarawa
0.48817837 MAR_Taforalt
0.61144484 Han
0.61261699 Nganassan
0.65696321 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67949496 ETH_4500BP
0.73918372 Dinka
0.75361700 Gambian
0.77909904 Yoruba

[ugochaves]

Nah, forget it. Fantastic results!
Davidsky sent it. Why didn't you like it?

[gixajo]

Davidsky sent it. Why didn't you like it?

Why wouldn't I like them? They are ok...

I just made a joking comment related to the conversations we were having that day in different threads, and because I thought it might be incomprehensible out of context, I deleted it. That's why I put: "Nah, forget it."

[BrandenburgGaming]

Target: BrandenburgGaming
Distance: 4.2439% / 0.04243923
47.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.8 WHG

[LinuxUser]

Target: Linux_Scaled
Distance: 4.4999% / 0.04499872
49.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.0 WHG

[sacha]

Target: ANCESTRY_SACHA_scaled
Distance: 3.2892% / 0.03289196
40.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
26.2 Levant_PPNB
18.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
12.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
3.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

vs

Target: 23andMe_Sacha_scaled
Distance: 3.8959% / 0.03895914
38.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
26.4 Levant_PPNB
25.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
9.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

[MBVC]

Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0213% / 0.02126798
45.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
20.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
6.1 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
5.9 Levant_PPNB
5.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.2 WHG
4.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
3.7 Dinka
3.0 Yoruba

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 5.2433% / 0.05243303
49.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
15.8 WHG

[alt2003]

Target: AlexanderKirkpatrick_scaled
Distance: 4.8332% / 0.04833184

49.8 TUR_Barcin_N
36.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.2 WHG
1.0 MAR_Taforalt

[vader]

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 4.2352% / 0.04235246
50.6 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
6.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.0 Dinka

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 3.7159% / 0.03715887
52.8 TUR_Barcin_N
29.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
6.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 3.8664% / 0.03866359
47.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.0 WHG
5.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
5.0 MAR_Taforalt
1.4 Dinka

Target: wife_scaled
Distance: 2.1529% / 0.02152909
49.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
28.0 TUR_Barcin_N
12.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
3.8 WHG
1.8 MAR_Taforalt
1.6 Yoruba
1.4 Dinka
1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.6 ETH_4500BP


Me and wife combined:

Target: PTARG
Distance: 2.4388% / 0.02438845
40.4 TUR_Barcin_N
24.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
21.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.4 WHG
4.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 Dinka
0.4 Gambian
0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728


The Dinka got some strong ass genes!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03kNQNclGY

[EasternLusitanian]

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0277% / 0.02765981
54.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
7.2 MAR_Taforalt

[vader]

With merged file:

Target: Me_merged_scaled
Distance: 2.8282% / 0.02828203
53.6 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt
1.0 Dinka
0.6 Han

[Dr.Fiskero]

Target: Dr.Fiskero_scaled
Distance: 1.5718% / 0.01571802
43.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
32.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
11.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.2 WHG
3.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.6 Levant_PPNB
0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3


Just a chill farmer.

[unmoggable]

ts is fake i get 51% yamnaya on other ones, also my distance closer than these fake yamnaya clowns from eastern europe

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 3.9710% / 0.03971004
49.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.0 WHG

0.15172094 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.19451628 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.19536712 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20772612 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.24880459 Levant_PPNB
0.31971168 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33678004 WHG
0.37665522 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
0.46129300 Jarawa
0.47728304 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.61403659 Han
0.61861848 Nganassan
0.66476520 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67116381 ETH_4500BP
0.73121035 Dinka
0.74569075 Gambian
0.77134923 Yoruba

[Gannicus]

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.16339066 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.19109518 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.20185927 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20267111 TUR_Barcin_N
0.24510703 Levant_PPNB
0.32649363 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33433385 WHG
0.38785038 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.46612186 Jarawa
0.47643134 MAR_Taforalt
0.61735090 Han
0.62253386 Nganassan
0.66408621 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67421160 ETH_4500BP
0.73285879 Dinka
0.74660978 Gambian
0.77204880 Yoruba

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 4.7871% / 0.04787146
45.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.0 TUR_Barcin_N
13.6 WHG

[R1b-L51]

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.6854% / 0.03685446
47.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 WHG
5.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
5.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.4 Gambian

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.6854% / 0.03685446
47.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 WHG
5.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
5.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.4 Gambian

Where is the link to this calculator it doesn't link me it just says it's not found

Maybe I found it this is the result I think is the right one


Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 3.9639% / 0.03963902
51.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.2 TUR_Barcin_N
12.8 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

[ScandinavianCelt]

ts is fake i get 51% yamnaya on other ones, also my distance closer than these fake yamnaya clowns from eastern europe

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 3.9710% / 0.03971004
49.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.0 WHG

0.15172094 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.19451628 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.19536712 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20772612 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.24880459 Levant_PPNB
0.31971168 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33678004 WHG
0.37665522 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
0.46129300 Jarawa
0.47728304 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.61403659 Han
0.61861848 Nganassan
0.66476520 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.67116381 ETH_4500BP
0.73121035 Dinka
0.74569075 Gambian
0.77134923 Yoruba

Don't feel bad I normally get higher myself then 51.8 I normally get like 53.4 and above on most good ones that I've done and that I've tried that encompass the proper pieces I think I'm not sure which Western Hunter gather a group he used I would have to check it that probably alters the calculator and maybe he didn't use the average from Samara I don't know

[tk'es]

i believe this is the original calculator provided by rothaer earlier https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/2/g25-calculatrice-standard-global25-par-davidski.htm





Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.8995% / 0.03899475
56.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 Han
1.2 Nganassan

[R1b-L51]

Where is the link to this calculator it doesn't link me it just says it's not found

Maybe I found it this is the result I think is the right one


Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 3.9639% / 0.03963902
51.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
35.2 TUR_Barcin_N
12.8 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt


[QUOTE=tk'es;8193377]i believe this is the original calculator provided by rothaer earlier https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/2/g25-calculatrice-standard-global25-par-davidski.htm



Yes its that, but I thought that you were Brad Davidsky!!

[Mrozek231]

Target: mrozek231_scaled_davidski
Distance: 7.0640% / 0.07064001
56.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
27.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.8 WHG


Distance to: mrozek231_scaled_davidski
0.13902665 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.22652308 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.23749025 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.25117304 TUR_Barcin_N
0.28564258 Levant_PPNB
0.32279267 WHG
0.33443856 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.38626906 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.46178679 Jarawa
0.49757838 MAR_Taforalt
0.60926118 Nganassan
0.61128499 Han
0.65836412 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.68069914 ETH_4500BP
0.74107384 Dinka
0.75523144 Gambian
0.78046534 Yoruba

[Rædwald]

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 4.4448% / 0.04444775
46.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG
0.6 Han
0.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

[Fabricius]

I thought I already posted mine:

Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.4482% / 0.02448165
47.4 TUR_Barcin_N
32.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
6.0 Yoruba
4.4 MAR_Taforalt
0.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N


Distance to: Fabricius_g25_scaled
0.15075281 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.16809480 TUR_Barcin_N
0.17783633 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.19427249 Levant_PPNB
0.20217331 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.30308262 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.36355979 WHG
0.36869107 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.41219140 MAR_Taforalt
0.43965157 Jarawa
0.60102556 Han
0.60695953 ETH_4500BP
0.61122148 Nganassan
0.66130086 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.66494659 Dinka
0.67706272 Gambian
0.70350579 Yoruba

[R1b-L51]

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.6854% / 0.03685446
47.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 WHG
5.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
5.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.4 Gambian

Better distances when I change the Kura-Araxes sample:

Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535

For this purer sample of EBA Kura-Araxes:

Armenia_KapsUnknown2_EBA_KuraAraxes_dup.I22907.AG: ARM001.AG__BC_3467__Cov_54.70%,0.102441,0.135065,-0.07467,-0.041667,-0.048932,-0.005578,0.011751,-0.010846,-0.065448,-0.019681,-0.002273,0.014237,-0.019623,0.00812,0.003529,-0.016309,-0.012126,-0.008742,0.002388,-0.002001,0.003494,0,-0.011339,-0.006507,0

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.6676% / 0.03667633
50.4 TUR_Barcin_N
27.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.2 WHG
6.0 MAR_Taforalt
3.4 Armenia_KapsUnknown2_EBA_KuraAraxes_dup.I22907.AG
0.2 Yoruba