View Full Version : Corded Ware/Bell Beaker/Linear Pottery cultures calculator(G25 scaled)
gixajo
03-13-2022, 05:41 PM
Just for fun.
Two Calcolithic to Bronze Age European transitional cultures with a Neolithic European culture.
Corded Ware should indicate a "shift" towards East Europe and Bell Beaker towards West Europe.
LBK is just to Balance those two, and is Basically as I said, European Neolithic reference, so basically Barcin_N+some tiny WHG (around 5%) .
Scaled and without penalization.
Corded_Ware,0.1252621556,0.1092310444,0.0578844667 ,0.0906462222,0.0071047556,0.0348649333,0.00391392 22,0.0028317556,-0.0247607222,-0.0397938111,-0.0022466333,8.3453E-006,-0.0047019333,-0.0133386778,0.0257522444,0.0080853222,-0.0055428111,-0.0001645111,0.0007541556,0.0068016556,0.001218311 1,0.0021599778,0.0038034,0.0116064556,-0.0004990333
Bell_Beaker,0.1272191368,0.1331099684,0.0562720316 ,0.0380821842,0.0383756158,0.0122815474,0.00177922 11,0.0033772579,0.0090530842,0.0111518684,-0.0019707947,0.0053720316,-0.0146157789,-0.0132915158,0.0133369263,0.0076840316,0.0025034,0 .0015066895,0.0020300316,0.0040800105,0.0051790105 ,0.0023446684,-0.0026677684,-0.0039582474,-0.0008229158
LBK,0.1231204,0.1811820,0.0156853,-0.0877739,0.0649509,-0.0418712,-0.0034607,-0.0011113,0.0433611,0.0854309,0.0081026,0.0135801,-0.0213701,0.0011204,-0.0402031,-0.0109359,0.0160278,0.0049329,0.0142103,-0.0126655,-0.0092963,0.0100384,-0.0086560,-0.0037832,-0.0043582
Edit: Donīt expect fantastic distances, although some can get some pretty good ones.:)
Defcon2
03-13-2022, 05:58 PM
Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 4.7043% / 0.04704297
47.8 Bell_Beaker
37.8 LBK
14.4 Corded_Ware
Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 3.4231% / 0.03423084
47.6 Bell_Beaker
33.0 LBK
12.6 Corded_Ware
6.8 MAR_Taforalt
noricum
03-13-2022, 07:14 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 4.4900% / 0.04490047
53.6 Corded_Ware
24.4 LBK
22.0 Bell_Beaker
mitalit
03-13-2022, 07:31 PM
Ahí tienes maestro
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.2404% / 0.03240371
60.2 Bell_Beaker
27.2 LBK
12.6 Corded_Ware
gixajo
03-13-2022, 08:06 PM
Ahí tienes maestro
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It was just for fun. :)
"Bachiller en todo, maestro de nada"
gixajo
03-13-2022, 08:08 PM
...
At least I hope you got the percentage that you usually get from MAR_Taforalt.
Pedro Ruben
03-13-2022, 10:15 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 0.0527% / 0.05269143
38.3 LBK
32.3 Bell_Beaker
29.4 Corded_Ware
Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0598% / 0.05976168
49.8 Bell_Beaker
34.9 LBK
15.3 Corded_Ware
Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0429% / 0.04294232
69.2 Bell_Beaker
26.6 LBK
4.2 Corded_Ware
celticdragongod
03-13-2022, 11:58 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.03817798 Bell_Beaker
0.08296208 Corded_Ware
0.20642192 LBK
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.2637% / 0.03263704
76.6 Bell_Beaker
22.4 Corded_Ware
1.0 LBK
Grace O'Malley
03-14-2022, 12:16 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.9632% / 0.02963232
75.6 Bell_Beaker
24.4 Corded_Ware
calxpal
03-14-2022, 05:05 AM
Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 3.0617% / 0.03061731
42.2 Corded_Ware
39.2 Bell_Beaker
18.6 LBK
Distance to: cpalscaled
0.03591573 Bell_Beaker
0.09281380 Corded_Ware
0.19103592 LBK
paradox
03-14-2022, 05:11 AM
Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0509% / 0.05093431
50.9 Corded_Ware
49.1 LBK
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 0.0415% / 0.04147665
56.2 Corded_Ware
43.8 LBK
oszkar07
03-14-2022, 05:44 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 0.0385% / 0.03853739
43.2 Corded_Ware
38.7 Bell_Beaker
18.1 LBK
frankhammer
03-14-2022, 07:59 AM
Prime bell beaker specimen
Target: fh_scaled
Distance: 2.8775% / 0.02877528
95.6 Bell_Beaker
4.4 Corded_Ware
Albannach
03-14-2022, 08:32 AM
Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 3.5159% / 0.03515872
74.6 Bell_Beaker
25.4 Corded_Ware
Gallop
03-14-2022, 11:49 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 0.0368% / 0.03678053
75.0 Bell_Beaker
25.0 LBK
Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.05940016 Bell_Beaker
0.14458460 LBK
0.14597967 Corded_Ware
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 0.0385% / 0.03849006
73.9 Bell_Beaker
26.1 LBK
Distance to: Father_scaled
0.06209034 Bell_Beaker
0.14302659 LBK
0.14738938 Corded_Ware
Very good distance!
It reminded me of the journey of my lineage adnY although I do not agree that it arrived in Spain in Roman times.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgT4adL0V_-wp2ghOHqbWkPe_yYw5xewmOBd79MT6aRnmGS9lNKQt-abG6KLkqjkO11TyVvWaJaDtpybHVt8oFwUcCe457Pz065U438_ n_5QdpUC1kEQBtcYurd8PFzxK3St6yovPo2OiyrU7-MJLBRY8USIQwAqW44hNqlaDh4UKjLUinTR7QseyO8=s2400
Paleolithic
03-14-2022, 12:06 PM
Target: Paleolithic_scaled
Distance: 5.3701% / 0.05370118
65.8 Bell_Beaker
34.2 Corded_Ware
Luke35
03-14-2022, 03:42 PM
Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 2.1159% / 0.02115869
57.8 Corded_Ware
27.2 LBK
15.0 Bell_Beaker
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Parents:
Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3852% / 0.02385167
50.4 Bell_Beaker
32.8 Corded_Ware
16.8 LBK
Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.6096% / 0.03609637
69.2 Corded_Ware
30.8 LBK
alexmegas777
03-17-2022, 08:21 AM
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.06213224 Bell_Beaker
0.12905878 Corded_Ware
0.15450737 LBK
Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 0.0347% / 0.03472986
54.8 Corded_Ware
45.2 LBK
de Burgh II
04-22-2022, 11:22 PM
Target: de_Burgh_II(Cornish)
Distance: 2.0223% / 0.02022318
85.8 Bell_Beaker
14.2 Corded_Ware
Distance to: de_Burgh_II(Cornish)
0.02438757 Bell_Beaker
0.08488270 Corded_Ware
0.20005311 LBK
alnortedelsur
04-24-2022, 05:25 AM
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alnortedelsur
04-24-2022, 05:26 AM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 8.0980% / 0.08098040
53.6 Corded_Ware
46.4 LBK
Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.09470328 Bell_Beaker
0.15093072 Corded_Ware
0.16825453 LBK
cakmir7y
04-28-2022, 05:39 PM
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 4.2538% / 0.04253767
60.2 Bell_Beaker
32.2 Corded_Ware
7.6 LBK
Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.04676301 Bell_Beaker
0.08881397 Corded_Ware
0.20460740 LBK
Coastal Elite
04-28-2022, 05:55 PM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.7943% / 0.01794279
59.6 Corded_Ware
34.8 LBK
5.6 Bell_Beaker
Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03590365 Bell_Beaker
0.10237315 Corded_Ware
0.17499988 LBK
Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.1864% / 0.03186450
78.6 Bell_Beaker
21.4 Corded_Ware
0.0 LBK
Target: Dad
Distance: 4.1323% / 0.04132314
52.8 Corded_Ware
47.2 LBK
0.0 Bell_Beaker
bandoge
04-28-2022, 06:32 PM
Target: bandoge_simulated_scaled
Distance: 3.5455% / 0.03545543
49.2 Bell_Beaker
33.8 LBK
17.0 Corded_Ware
Duan
04-28-2022, 06:43 PM
Target: Duan
Distance: 3.5586% / 0.03558561
62.4 Corded_Ware
37.6 LBK
PLogan
04-29-2022, 12:59 AM
Target: PLogan_scaled
Distance: 4.3008% / 0.04300802
63.8 Bell_Beaker
26.4 Corded_Ware
9.8 LBK
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.0325% / 0.03032464
78.4 Bell_Beaker
17.2 Corded_Ware
4.4 LBK
Target: Mother_scaled
Distance: 3.8012% / 0.03801169
65.6 Bell_Beaker
25.4 Corded_Ware
9.0 LBK
Atlantean Muller
04-30-2022, 04:31 PM
Distance to:Muller_scaled
0.03170462Bell_Beaker
0.08474109Corded_Ware
0.20338761LBK
Single
Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 2.7435% / 0.02743461
83.4Bell_Beaker
16.6Corded_Ware
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Nurzat
05-05-2022, 07:11 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 3.7947% / 0.03794679
65.4 Corded_Ware
34.6 LBK
0.0 Bell_Beaker
Distance to: Nurzat
0.05413684 Bell_Beaker
0.10224296 Corded_Ware
0.18386941 LBK
PT Tagus
05-05-2022, 09:44 PM
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 5.1164% / 0.05116394
41.8 LBK
32.4 Bell_Beaker
25.8 Corded_Ware
Target: J.S.FrancoBearnais
Distance: 4.4049% / 0.04404929
82.0 Bell_Beaker
18.0 LBK
Distance to: J.S.FrancoBearnais
0.05527224 Bell_Beaker
0.13677089 Corded_Ware
0.15929522 LBK
Eurafricanid
03-05-2023, 01:28 AM
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.3779% / 0.01377902
47.6 Western_African
22.2 Bell_Beaker
19.4 LBK
8.2 Corded_Ware
2.6 Native_Brazilian
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.0433% / 0.01043253
47.0 Western_African
32.0 Bell_Beaker
14.0 LBK
2.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.4 Native_Brazilian
1.8 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
P.S. I put Taforalt, too, but i don't match it, apparently.
Beowulf
03-09-2023, 08:02 PM
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 4.1628% / 0.04162798
62.6 Bell_Beaker
32.0 LBK
5.4 Corded_Ware
Figaro
03-09-2023, 08:17 PM
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 3.2560% / 0.03255971
50.2 Bell_Beaker
37.2 Corded_Ware
12.6 LBK
Target:CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 4.0038% / 0.04003758
52.8 Corded_Ware
30.2 Bell_Beaker
17.0 LBK
Target: CordedWife_scaled
Distance: 21.0508% / 0.21050807
76.4 Corded_Ware
23.6 LBK
(keep in mind that she is approx. 1/3 Amerindian admixed)
gixajo
03-09-2023, 08:31 PM
(keep in mind that she is approx. 1/3 Amerindian admixed)
An ancient Caribbean Amerindian culture, it should work for most people with indigenous American ancestry,but maybe not the best if it is very northern.
VEN_Ceramic,0.0517894,-0.315068,0.1157288,0.0967386,-0.111136,-0.0170822,-0.2957315,-0.3514469,-0.0116579,-0.0146244,-0.0005275,0.001199,0.001561,0.0240325,-0.007838,0.0062649,0.008377,-0.0015361,0.0017599,-0.0001095,0.0031196,0.0046834,0.001895,-0.0021388,-0.0029486
It would not be strange that she needs also a SSA reference.
Figaro
03-09-2023, 08:40 PM
An ancient Caribbean Amerindian culture, it should work for most people with indigenous American ancestry,but maybe not the best if it is very northern.
VEN_Ceramic,0.0517894,-0.315068,0.1157288,0.0967386,-0.111136,-0.0170822,-0.2957315,-0.3514469,-0.0116579,-0.0146244,-0.0005275,0.001199,0.001561,0.0240325,-0.007838,0.0062649,0.008377,-0.0015361,0.0017599,-0.0001095,0.0031196,0.0046834,0.001895,-0.0021388,-0.0029486
It would not be strange that she needs also a SSA reference.
Adding the Amerindian source:
Target: CordedWife_scaled
Distance: 4.8847% / 0.04884684
32.4 LBK
31.8 VEN_Ceramic
29.8 Corded_Ware
6.0 Bell_Beaker
Not bad at all! Although of course her BB should be way higher than the CW in actuality, but of course things get hidden and complicated here. Her Amerindian ancestry is probably all from the Texas/North Mexico area. Her Cuban side was from recent, 19th century Spanish migrants, so likely no Taino admix.
Thank you for the tip. I'll seek out an African source. I'll bet she is something like 2% SSA, as she gets that or around there on every calculator.
gixajo
03-09-2023, 10:50 PM
Adding the Amerindian source:
Thank you for the tip. I'll seek out an African source. I'll bet she is something like 2% SSA, as she gets that or around there on every calculator.
Yes, if she has any SSA it would be very low and probably itīs not necessary to use it. Itīs not a bad distance which she got using just 4 ancient averaged references and thinking that Amerindian one itīs not related with her real Amerindian ancestry.
Upsilander
09-03-2024, 08:57 AM
Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 3.3583% / 0.03358277
89.0 Bell_Beaker
8.8 Corded_Ware
2.2 LBK
Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.03396175 Bell_Beaker
0.09723475 Corded_Ware
0.19296434 LBK
Just for fun.
Two Calcolithic to Bronze Age European transitional cultures with a Neolithic European culture.
Corded Ware should indicate a "shift" towards East Europe and Bell Beaker towards West Europe.
LBK is just to Balance those two, and is Basically as I said, European Neolithic reference, so basically Barcin_N+some tiny WHG (around 5%) .
Scaled and without penalization.
Corded_Ware,0.1252621556,0.1092310444,0.0578844667 ,0.0906462222,0.0071047556,0.0348649333,0.00391392 22,0.0028317556,-0.0247607222,-0.0397938111,-0.0022466333,8.3453E-006,-0.0047019333,-0.0133386778,0.0257522444,0.0080853222,-0.0055428111,-0.0001645111,0.0007541556,0.0068016556,0.001218311 1,0.0021599778,0.0038034,0.0116064556,-0.0004990333
Bell_Beaker,0.1272191368,0.1331099684,0.0562720316 ,0.0380821842,0.0383756158,0.0122815474,0.00177922 11,0.0033772579,0.0090530842,0.0111518684,-0.0019707947,0.0053720316,-0.0146157789,-0.0132915158,0.0133369263,0.0076840316,0.0025034,0 .0015066895,0.0020300316,0.0040800105,0.0051790105 ,0.0023446684,-0.0026677684,-0.0039582474,-0.0008229158
LBK,0.1231204,0.1811820,0.0156853,-0.0877739,0.0649509,-0.0418712,-0.0034607,-0.0011113,0.0433611,0.0854309,0.0081026,0.0135801,-0.0213701,0.0011204,-0.0402031,-0.0109359,0.0160278,0.0049329,0.0142103,-0.0126655,-0.0092963,0.0100384,-0.0086560,-0.0037832,-0.0043582
Edit: Donīt expect fantastic distances, although some can get some pretty good ones.:)
Unfortunately, BB is much later and therefore has less distance to living populations. In this calculator, it dominates even where it should not occur completely (Balts below). The conclusion is not to mix samples from different eras.
https://i.ibb.co/S3L3TbT/Zrzut-ekranu-3-9-2024-11350-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Balboa
09-03-2024, 09:38 AM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 2.9599% / 0.02959860
73.8 LBK
26.2 Corded_Ware
vader
09-03-2024, 12:45 PM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 3.5288% / 0.03528830
66.4 Bell_Beaker
30.0 LBK
3.6 Corded_Ware
Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 4.2953% / 0.04295293
50.0 VEN_Ceramic
23.0 LBK
14.4 Bell_Beaker
12.6 Corded_Ware
Gannicus
01-12-2025, 01:25 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02990049 Bell_Beaker
0.09693308 Corded_Ware
0.19150657 LBK
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0296% / 0.02963080
91.7 Bell_Beaker
6.7 Corded_Ware
1.6 LBK
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02966006 4.00% Corded_Ware + 96.00% Bell_Beaker
0.04107279 68.00% Corded_Ware + 32.00% LBK
unmoggable
01-12-2025, 04:42 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 2.0038% / 0.02003817
57.6 Bell_Beaker
32.6 Corded_Ware
9.8 LBK
0.02647130 Bell_Beaker
0.08371802 Corded_Ware
0.19749249 LBK
Balboa
02-08-2025, 03:04 AM
Target: Balboa_scaled
Distance: 4.1218% / 0.04121770
70.8 LBK
29.2 Corded_Ware
CeltiberoGermanico
02-12-2025, 11:45 AM
Target: Yo_scaled
Distance: 3.3882% / 0.03388238
71.2 Bell_Beaker
28.8 LBK
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