Gaulish Y-DNA

[Peterski]

Modern France:
(from Eupedia)

R1b - 58.5%
I1 - 8.5%
E1b1b - 7.5%
I2 - 6.5%
J2 - 6%
G - 5.5%
R1a - 3%
J1 - 1.5%
T - 1.0%
Q - 0.5%
other - 1.5%

Ancient Gauls:

R1b - 69.0%
G - 17.2%
I1 - 6.9%
I2 - 6.9%

https://www.cell.com/iscience/pdf/S2589-0042(22)00364-9.pdf

[Peterski]

Haplogroups such as E1b1b, J2, J1 and T were not detected among ancient Gauls.

These 4 haplogrups probably came to France with Greek and later Roman settlers.

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BTW is there a better source on modern French Y-DNA frequencies than Eupedia?:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups_by_region.shtml

As for R1b subclades this is how it looks like now (DF27 > U152 > Z290 > U106):

https://i.imgur.com/Kw6hGBg.png

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Gaulish PCA

https://i.imgur.com/WL1vKa9.png

[Peterski]

For comparison haplogroups detected in Pre-Roman Iron Age Britain (in total 160 samples):

R1b-L21
R1b-DF27
R1b-U152>L2
other R1b subclades
G2a-L497
I2a2a-M223
I2a1a-M26
R1b-U106>S264 (one sample)
I1-M253 (one sample)
F

[J.S.]

Modern France:
(from Eupedia)


Eupedia Modern French y-dna data is crap.

[Peterski]

Eupedia Modern French y-dna data is crap.

Can you post the correct data?

[J.S.]

Can you post the correct data?

I can post the evidence to show you and convince you why i said Eupedia Modern French data is crap.

By the way, before asking me to post the correct data, do you know where Eupedia's one come from?

[J.S.]

post #30
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?25946-Gaulish-Y-DNA&p=837465#post837465

[Peterski]

By the way, before asking me to post the correct data, do you know where Eupedia's one come from?

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

[Tongio]

Sample bias, more uncommon Y DNAs will show less or not at all, of course , that doesnt mean they were not present, also bronze and iron age France is very undersanpled.In relation to the dominance of R1b-L21 in britain It must be remembered that there were some pretty significant founder effects going on so these lineages outnumbered all the others.

[J.S.]

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

I meant "from what studies"...

[Peterski]

I meant "from what studies"...

Probably a compilation of several studies. You should ask Maciamo about it.

[J.S.]

Probably a compilation of several studies. You should ask Maciamo about it.

I already did, a few years ago. If i am not mistaken, the total French y-dna for each haplogroup is solely based on Ramos 2014 and the different regional totals are from compiled commercial results.

[Beowulf]

I find interesting how the haplogroup G was somewhat common among ancient gauls.