Russian from Vladivostok, Far East Russia Myheritage + Gedmatch results - help me interpret them

[Magma]

Greetings everyone. I found this forum while looking for places to post DNA results and get help interpreting them, and since people post and discuss their DNA here, I thought I might post mine too.
For context, I am from Vladivostok, Primorskiy Kray, Far East Russia.
Here's a map of my recent ancestry:
https://i.imgur.com/OVxFkfL.jpeg
MyHeritage:
https://i.imgur.com/AGZXtDX.png
It seems like MyHeritage was able to correctly identify where I was born
https://i.imgur.com/UqDpaFA.jpg
Eurogenes k13:

https://i.imgur.com/0V0eUgd.jpg

Eurogenes k15:

https://i.imgur.com/9oCBzMx.jpg

Eurogenes k15 PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/2UziUqt.png

Eurogenes k36:
https://i.imgur.com/K63NINF.jpg

Eurogenes k36 similarity map:
https://i.imgur.com/9raPnQU.png


Closest ancient populations according to MyTrueAncestry:
https://i.imgur.com/qnubniU.png

[Magma]

I would appreciate if someone could help me interpret these results and tell me if they are typical for someone like me. Thanks :thumb001:

[Leto]

Hi,

Due to the massive spike in Russophobia these days I would prefer not to post anything related to Russia but since you already did this, here are my thoughts:
Your results are very Western, the Mongoloid input is basically minimal, almost non-existent. By the looks of it your ancestry could be mostly from a certain country that starts with a U or from adjacent areas. At least you definitely don't seem to have any deep Sibiryak origins. I have seen hundreds upon hundreds of Russian results, probably more than anyone else. And they keep coming in. Do you know the birthplaces of the remaining three grandparents? An oblast level will suffice.
Also, please share your Dodecad K12b components, the original oracle is pretty much useless and meaningless but the components are very valuable.

[Magma]

Hi,

Due to the massive spike in Russophobia these days I would prefer not to post anything related to Russia but since you already did this, here are my thoughts:
Your results are very Western, the Mongoloid input is basically minimal, almost non-existent. By the looks of it your ancestry could be mostly from a certain country that starts with a U or from adjacent areas. At least you definitely don't seem to have any deep Sibiryak origins. I have seen hundreds upon hundreds of Russian results, probably more than anyone else. And they keep coming in. Do you know the birthplaces of the remaining three grandparents? An oblast level will suffice.
Also, please share your Dodecad K12b components, the original oracle is pretty much useless and meaningless but the components are very valuable.

Hi. I'm gonna type in English so that all forum users will understand.
Here's a more detailed ancestry breakdown based on what information my parents, grandfather, and cousin provided:
1/4 Russian from Bryansk oblast, very near Belarus border
1/4 Russian from a village south of Ryazan oblast
1/8 Russian from Kuban
1/8 Russian from Ufa, Bashkortostan
1/8 Ukrainian from Sumy
1/8 Ukrainian from west of Zhytomyr oblast

My cousin has traced the Ukrainian ancestry very far. And as far as I know, all names, surnames and patronyms are Slavic, Russian and Ukrainian.

[Leto]

The Far East became Russian only in the second half of the 19th century and most people there are even more recent. Second, third generation mostly. And their families came from all over the place, basically between the Dnieper and Baikal (Western Siberia was already populated when the Far East was incorporated into the Empire, so the settlers would have been partially from Eastern Russia too, not just European Russia/Ukraine/Belarus).

[Magma]

Dodecad k12b

Population
Gedrosia 5.27 Pct
Siberian 1.78 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.08 Pct
North_European 56.36 Pct
South_Asian 0.75 Pct
East_African 0.57 Pct
Southwest_Asian 0.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 10.62 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


By the looks of it your ancestry could be mostly from a certain country that starts with a U or from adjacent areas.

You mean Ukraine? Because that's exactly what I said, I'm 1/4 Ukrainian.

[Jana]

here are your updated K13 results...your results look Belarussian like from genetic pov

3.40642041 Polish_Mazovia
3.58297363 Russian_Smolensk
3.98800702 Belarusian_Minsk
4.46791898 Ukrainian_Northwest
4.96632661 Ukrainian_North
5.22081411 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
5.34611074 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
5.38187700 Polish_Kujavia
5.38468198 Russian_Ryazan
5.51839651 Russian_Southwest
5.94038719 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
6.08261457 Polish_Silesia
6.33585827 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
6.43439197 Polish_Greater_Poland
6.56516565 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
6.67654102 Polish_Lesser_Poland
6.77640760 Polish_Podlaskie
7.04418909 Lithuanian_Aukštaitija
7.11537069 Russian_Pskov
7.22033240 Ukrainian_South
7.47947191 Polish_Subcarpathia
7.77084294 Polish_South
7.97476645 Russian_Kargopol
8.08561686 Upper_Silesia
8.18342838 Russian_Kostroma

[Magma]

The Far East became Russian only in the second half of the 19th century and most people there are even more recent. Second, third generation mostly. And their families came from all over the place, basically between the Dnieper and Baikal (Western Siberia was already populated when the Far East was incorporated into the Empire, so the settlers would have been partially from Eastern Russia too, not just European Russia/Ukraine/Belarus).

I'm 4th generation Far-East Russian born. My first ancestor born in the far east came from Ukraine. The rest came later.

[Leto]

Hi. I'm gonna type in English so that all forum users will understand.
Here's a more detailed ancestry breakdown based on what information my parents, grandfather, and cousin provided:
1/4 Russian from Bryansk oblast, very near Belarus border
1/4 Russian from a village south of Ryazan oblast
1/8 Russian from Kuban
1/8 Russian from Ufa, Bashkortostan
1/8 Ukrainian from Sumy
1/8 Ukrainian from west of Zhytomyr oblast

My cousin has traced the Ukrainian ancestry very far. And as far as I know, all names, surnames and patronyms are Slavic, Russian and Ukrainian.
I see. As I expected. Basically only Ufa is actually Eastern. But 1/8 is a small amount, it must've been diluted even if it was strongly Uralic/Northeastern Russian.


You mean Ukraine? Because that's exactly what I said, I'm 1/4 Ukrainian.
Yes. But you said 1/4, my impression was that it should be more than that. I'm half Belorussian (roughly, maybe not literally 50%) and I score like 3 times more East Eurasian/Mongoloid than you.

I'm gonna run the K12b oracle for you.

[Leto]

Dodecad K12b. Your results are indeed very Western. But obviously folks like you do exist. Even if the average Russian is like Sergey Shoigu :rolleyes:

Distance to: Magma
2.63577313 Polish
3.26076678 Polish_Mazovia
3.29113962 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
3.76323000 Belorussian
3.80259122 Ukrainian
3.90261451 Russian_Oryol
3.94096435 Russian_Smolensk
4.07650586 Sorb_Lusatia
4.39041000 Belarusian_Minsk
4.68601110 Russian_Kursk

Target: Magma
Distance: 1.2693% / 1.26934385 | ADC: 1x RC
51.0 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
43.3 Russian_Oryol
5.7 Polish

Distance to: Magma
1.06434335 41.20% Russian_Tver + 58.80% Sorb_Lusatia
1.06609019 77.60% Russian_Oryol + 22.40% Swedish
1.09595195 74.00% Russian_Kursk + 26.00% Swedish
1.19642167 23.60% Dutch + 76.40% Russian_Tver
1.20504108 20.00% Danish + 80.00% Russian_Oryol
1.24885994 23.40% Danish + 76.60% Russian_Kursk
1.25927145 15.20% Irish + 84.80% Russian_Smolensk
1.26247937 32.20% German + 67.80% Russian_Tver
1.27609067 54.80% Polish_Warmia-Masuria + 45.20% Russian_Oryol
1.28418548 84.40% Russian_Smolensk + 15.60% Scottish

[Leto]

I'm 4th generation Far-East Russian born. My first ancestor born in the far east came from Ukraine. The rest came later.
Very cool. I would like to have your kit number but if you don't want to share it with strangers, that's OK.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

PCA

https://i.imgur.com/wVRme61.png

[Magma]

Very cool. I would like to have your kit number but if you don't want to share it with strangers, that's OK.

I don't want to share my kit number due to there being confidential information such as DNA relative matches, but if you want me to try any calculator I'll do it and tell you the results.

[Magma]

Edit because I accidentally posted the same thing twice

[Magma]

PCA

https://i.imgur.com/wVRme61.png

Thank you, this PCA actually makes a lot of sense, even more than the K15 PCA (although I had trouble reading it at first because the regions that are eastern shifted are usually on the right but here they're on the left but that's fine. )

How did you make this? What calculator is it based on?

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Thank you, this PCA actually makes a lot of sense, even more than the K15 PCA (although I had trouble reading it at first because the regions that are eastern shifted are usually on the right but here they're on the left but that's fine. )

How did you make this? What calculator is it based on?

Eurogenes K13

https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

[Magma]

Eurogenes K13

https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

it works, thanks.