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Didac
03-22-2022, 08:34 PM
After my previous post on the baloch tribe i was interested to find some dna of baloch people i managed to get one gedmatch result of a baloch. This person is apart of the same leghari tribe which are apart of the Rind baloch tribe which my previous post was about. Since this tribe has been living in south asia aka pakistan for a very long time theyve picked up a bit more south asian than baloch living in iran obviously however still impressive how largely still baloch
k13:
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 46.48
2 South_Asian 36.12
3 East_Med 5.68
4 North_Atlantic 2.72
5 Baltic 2.56
6 Amerindian 2.24
7 Northeast_African 2.2
8 Red_Sea 1.15
9 Oceanian 0.84
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui 9.15
2 Balochi 9.17
3 Kalash 10.15
4 Makrani 10.15
5 Sindhi 10.48
6 Pathan 11.28
7 Burusho 13.83
8 Afghan_Pashtun 14.66
9 Punjabi_Jat 15.04
10 Tadjik 23.95
11 Afghan_Tadjik 24.15
12 Gujarati 26.31
13 Brahmin_UP 27.23
14 Kshatriya 28.32
15 Turkmen 31.06
16 Tabassaran 31.62
17 Iranian 32.47
18 Lezgin 32.72
19 Bangladeshi 32.74
20 Chechen 32.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Brahui + 46.2% Sindhi @ 3
2 53.8% Balochi + 46.2% Sindhi @ 3.26
3 76% Brahui + 24% Brahmin_UP @ 3.26
4 76.7% Brahui + 23.3% Kshatriya @ 3.3
5 80.7% Brahui + 19.3% Dharkar @ 3.52
6 81.2% Brahui + 18.8% Kanjar @ 3.54
7 82.9% Brahui + 17.1% Kol @ 3.54
8 82.5% Brahui + 17.5% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.56
9 75.6% Brahui + 24.4% Gujarati @ 3.61
10 84.9% Balochi + 15.1% Chamar @ 3.66
11 85% Brahui + 15% Chamar @ 3.66
12 82.9% Balochi + 17.1% Kol @ 3.68
13 83.5% Brahui + 16.5% North_Kannadi @ 3.69
14 83.7% Balochi + 16.3% Chenchu @ 3.69
15 80.8% Balochi + 19.2% Dharkar @ 3.7
16 83.7% Balochi + 16.3% Piramalai @ 3.71
17 81.6% Balochi + 18.4% Velamas @ 3.72
18 83.8% Brahui + 16.2% Chenchu @ 3.73
19 82.1% Balochi + 17.9% Kurumba @ 3.76
20 82.9% Balochi + 17.1% Dusadh @ 3.76
PUNTDNAL 12 MODERN:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 47.96
2 South_Asian 26.33
3 Near_East 8.38
4 Anatolian_NF 6.32
5 European_HG 6.19
6 Sub-Saharan 1.88
7 Amerindian 1.49
8 Beringian 1.45
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Balochi 6.9
2 Makrani 8.13
3 Brahui 9
4 Afghan_Pashtun 9.42
5 Pakistan_Pashtun 10.21
6 Pathan 13.17
7 Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh 15.1
8 Sindhi 15.15
9 Burusho 16.81
10 Kashmir 17.38
11 Haryana_Jatt 18.46
12 Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim 18.61
13 Tajik_Pomiri 22.68
14 UP_Muslim 23.33
15 Iranian 23.93
16 Chechen 26.01
17 Kurdish 27.58
18 Lezgin 28.48
19 North_Ossetian 28.72
20 Kumyk 29.14
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Makrani + 32.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 4.02
2 72.3% Makrani + 27.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 4.19
3 92.4% Balochi + 7.6% Saharawi @ 4.2
4 89.4% Balochi + 10.6% Somali_Benadiri @ 4.22
5 88.5% Brahui + 11.5% Algerian @ 4.22
6 57.3% Makrani + 42.7% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 4.26
7 91.8% Balochi + 8.2% Algerian @ 4.29
8 90.2% Balochi + 9.8% Yemeni @ 4.35
9 92.2% Balochi + 7.8% Tunisian @ 4.35
10 89% Brahui + 11% Tunisian @ 4.39
11 92.6% Balochi + 7.4% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.43
12 92.2% Balochi + 7.8% Ethiopian @ 4.44
13 89.5% Brahui + 10.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.48
14 89.5% Brahui + 10.5% Saharawi @ 4.53
15 92.8% Balochi + 7.2% Oromo @ 4.54
16 72.6% Makrani + 27.4% Haryana_Jatt @ 4.55
17 93% Balochi + 7% Somali @ 4.55
18 77.3% Makrani + 22.7% UP_Muslim @ 4.6
19 93% Balochi + 7% Saudi @ 4.64
20 95.1% Balochi + 4.9% BedouinB @ 4.73
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++
1 Iranian + Makrani + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 3.274822
2 Keralam + Makrani + Makrani + North_Ossetian @ 3.340947
3 Brahui + Iranian + Kashmir + Makrani @ 3.365134
4 Iranian + Kashmir + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.394302
5 Gujarati + Iranian + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.508072
6 Keralam + Kumyk + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.588557
7 Brahui + Iranian + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 3.592405
8 Brahui + Iranian + Makrani + Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 3.608577
9 Balochi + Iranian + Kashmir + Makrani @ 3.645211
10 Iranian + Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 3.696800
11 Gujarati + Kumyk + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.779602
12 Keralam + Lezgin + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.786646
13 Brahui + Brahui + Iranian + Kashmir @ 3.799790
14 Gujarati + Makrani + Makrani + North_Ossetian @ 3.812011
15 Afghan_Pashtun + Makrani + Makrani + Sindhi @ 3.837380
16 Brahui + Brahui + Iranian + Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 3.955546
17 Balochi + Brahui + Iranian + Kashmir @ 3.966075
18 Balochi + Iranian + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 4.021157
19 Iranian + Makrani + Pathan + Sindhi @ 4.040013
20 Afghan_Pashtun + Kashmir + Makrani + Makrani @ 4.058341
Didac
03-22-2022, 08:53 PM
For reference here’s vahaduos baloch reference k13. Idk if this is a baloch from Pakistan iran or where but yeah
Distance to: Baloch
2.22730779 Brahui
15.12075395 Kalash
17.03033764 Pashtun_Afghanistan
20.17911544 Pashtun_Pakistan
21.09200085 Burusho
21.12485976 Sindhi
22.06735372 Persian_Hormozgan
24.79594725 Jat_Punjab
25.20030754 Pamiri_Tajikistan
26.26387252 Parsi_India
26.26476727 Tajik_Tajikistan
26.72943509 Tajik_Afghanistan
27.51936409 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
27.84838775 Tajik
28.91748779 Persian_Eastcentral
29.93711409 Avar
30.78754781 Tabasaran
31.06162101 Ossetian
31.26951071 Lak
31.40902736 Dargin
31.81442597 Chechen
31.82153516 Lezgin
32.19061820 Ingush
32.39019450 Ossetian_North
32.44156131 Circassian
RogueState
03-22-2022, 10:18 PM
It seems that they genuinely absorbed Northeast African slaves (Zanj ?)
Didac
03-22-2022, 10:34 PM
It seems that they genuinely absorbed Northeast African slaves (Zanj ?)
Hardly like 2% or so
chinshen
03-22-2022, 11:12 PM
After my previous post on the baloch tribe i was interested to find some dna of baloch people i managed to get one gedmatch result of a baloch. This person is apart of the same leghari tribe which my previous post was about. Since this tribe has been living in south asia aka pakistan for a very long time theyve picked up a bit more south asian than baloch living in iran obviously however still impressive how largely still baloch
k13:
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 46.48
2 South_Asian 36.12
3 East_Med 5.68
4 North_Atlantic 2.72
5 Baltic 2.56
6 Amerindian 2.24
7 Northeast_African 2.2
8 Red_Sea 1.15
9 Oceanian 0.84
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui 9.15
2 Balochi 9.17
3 Kalash 10.15
4 Makrani 10.15
5 Sindhi 10.48
6 Pathan 11.28
7 Burusho 13.83
8 Afghan_Pashtun 14.66
9 Punjabi_Jat 15.04
10 Tadjik 23.95
11 Afghan_Tadjik 24.15
12 Gujarati 26.31
13 Brahmin_UP 27.23
14 Kshatriya 28.32
15 Turkmen 31.06
16 Tabassaran 31.62
17 Iranian 32.47
18 Lezgin 32.72
19 Bangladeshi 32.74
20 Chechen 32.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Brahui + 46.2% Sindhi @ 3
2 53.8% Balochi + 46.2% Sindhi @ 3.26
3 76% Brahui + 24% Brahmin_UP @ 3.26
4 76.7% Brahui + 23.3% Kshatriya @ 3.3
5 80.7% Brahui + 19.3% Dharkar @ 3.52
6 81.2% Brahui + 18.8% Kanjar @ 3.54
7 82.9% Brahui + 17.1% Kol @ 3.54
8 82.5% Brahui + 17.5% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.56
9 75.6% Brahui + 24.4% Gujarati @ 3.61
10 84.9% Balochi + 15.1% Chamar @ 3.66
11 85% Brahui + 15% Chamar @ 3.66
12 82.9% Balochi + 17.1% Kol @ 3.68
13 83.5% Brahui + 16.5% North_Kannadi @ 3.69
14 83.7% Balochi + 16.3% Chenchu @ 3.69
15 80.8% Balochi + 19.2% Dharkar @ 3.7
16 83.7% Balochi + 16.3% Piramalai @ 3.71
17 81.6% Balochi + 18.4% Velamas @ 3.72
18 83.8% Brahui + 16.2% Chenchu @ 3.73
19 82.1% Balochi + 17.9% Kurumba @ 3.76
20 82.9% Balochi + 17.1% Dusadh @ 3.76
PUNTDNAL 12 MODERN:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 47.96
2 South_Asian 26.33
3 Near_East 8.38
4 Anatolian_NF 6.32
5 European_HG 6.19
6 Sub-Saharan 1.88
7 Amerindian 1.49
8 Beringian 1.45
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Balochi 6.9
2 Makrani 8.13
3 Brahui 9
4 Afghan_Pashtun 9.42
5 Pakistan_Pashtun 10.21
6 Pathan 13.17
7 Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh 15.1
8 Sindhi 15.15
9 Burusho 16.81
10 Kashmir 17.38
11 Haryana_Jatt 18.46
12 Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim 18.61
13 Tajik_Pomiri 22.68
14 UP_Muslim 23.33
15 Iranian 23.93
16 Chechen 26.01
17 Kurdish 27.58
18 Lezgin 28.48
19 North_Ossetian 28.72
20 Kumyk 29.14
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Makrani + 32.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 4.02
2 72.3% Makrani + 27.7% Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 4.19
3 92.4% Balochi + 7.6% Saharawi @ 4.2
4 89.4% Balochi + 10.6% Somali_Benadiri @ 4.22
5 88.5% Brahui + 11.5% Algerian @ 4.22
6 57.3% Makrani + 42.7% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 4.26
7 91.8% Balochi + 8.2% Algerian @ 4.29
8 90.2% Balochi + 9.8% Yemeni @ 4.35
9 92.2% Balochi + 7.8% Tunisian @ 4.35
10 89% Brahui + 11% Tunisian @ 4.39
11 92.6% Balochi + 7.4% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.43
12 92.2% Balochi + 7.8% Ethiopian @ 4.44
13 89.5% Brahui + 10.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.48
14 89.5% Brahui + 10.5% Saharawi @ 4.53
15 92.8% Balochi + 7.2% Oromo @ 4.54
16 72.6% Makrani + 27.4% Haryana_Jatt @ 4.55
17 93% Balochi + 7% Somali @ 4.55
18 77.3% Makrani + 22.7% UP_Muslim @ 4.6
19 93% Balochi + 7% Saudi @ 4.64
20 95.1% Balochi + 4.9% BedouinB @ 4.73
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++
1 Iranian + Makrani + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 3.274822
2 Keralam + Makrani + Makrani + North_Ossetian @ 3.340947
3 Brahui + Iranian + Kashmir + Makrani @ 3.365134
4 Iranian + Kashmir + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.394302
5 Gujarati + Iranian + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.508072
6 Keralam + Kumyk + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.588557
7 Brahui + Iranian + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 3.592405
8 Brahui + Iranian + Makrani + Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 3.608577
9 Balochi + Iranian + Kashmir + Makrani @ 3.645211
10 Iranian + Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 3.696800
11 Gujarati + Kumyk + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.779602
12 Keralam + Lezgin + Makrani + Makrani @ 3.786646
13 Brahui + Brahui + Iranian + Kashmir @ 3.799790
14 Gujarati + Makrani + Makrani + North_Ossetian @ 3.812011
15 Afghan_Pashtun + Makrani + Makrani + Sindhi @ 3.837380
16 Brahui + Brahui + Iranian + Punjabi_Jatt_Muslim @ 3.955546
17 Balochi + Brahui + Iranian + Kashmir @ 3.966075
18 Balochi + Iranian + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 4.021157
19 Iranian + Makrani + Pathan + Sindhi @ 4.040013
20 Afghan_Pashtun + Kashmir + Makrani + Makrani @ 4.058341
Something doesn't seem right. You are talking about South Asian population from Pakistan and Eastern Iran.
I am 100% West Asian and don't get that high scores for both K13 West Asian and PUNTDNAL 12 Modern.
For Eurogenes K3 I get >>>>>>> West_Asian 34.86% .
For puntDNAL K12 Modern I get >>>>> Caucasus_HG 40.8%
Didac
03-22-2022, 11:33 PM
Something doesn't seem right. You are talking about South Asian population from Pakistan and Eastern Iran.
I am 100% West Asian and don't get that high scores for both K13 West Asian and PUNTDNAL 12 Modern.
For Eurogenes K3 I get >>>>>>> West_Asian 34.86% .
For puntDNAL K12 Modern I get >>>>> Caucasus_HG 40.8%
Where are u from?
Btw the original baloch refrence has 54% Caucasus hg or something like that. And like 53% west Asian on k13, and south Asian 29% on the baloch refrence for k13. U forget baloch people are said to have originated from Kurdistan/Syria and likely true. Then migrated hundreds of years ago to South Asia hundreds and hundreds of years they married within their tribe but ofc some mixing occurred then those individuals mix in back into the tribe some south Asian crept in. Then a part of them migrated to eastern iran and some to Afghanistan.
Also I wouldn’t exactly call them a south Asian population they’re like an intermediate population between the most western point of South Asia and the eastern most point of west Asia. Also the language they speak is incredibly close to Kurdish and Farsi/Persian
chinshen
03-23-2022, 12:21 AM
Where are u from?
Btw the original baloch refrence has 54% Caucasus hg or something like that. And like 53% west Asian on k13, and south Asian 29% on the baloch refrence for k13. U forget baloch people are said to have originated from Kurdistan/Syria and likely true. Then migrated hundreds of years ago to South Asia hundreds and hundreds of years they married within their tribe but ofc some mixing occurred then those individuals mix in back into the tribe some south Asian crept in. Then a part of them migrated to eastern iran and some to Afghanistan.
Also I wouldn’t exactly call them a south Asian population they’re like an intermediate population between the most western point of South Asia and the eastern most point of west Asia. Also the language they speak is incredibly close to Kurdish and Farsi/Persian
There has not been any large scale migration from West Asia to South Asia or Central Asia in the last few thousand years or probably from the Neolithic age while On the contrary, there has been a lot of migration in the other direction in the last thousand years.
Didac
03-23-2022, 12:32 AM
There has not been any large scale migration from West Asia to South Asia or Central Asia in the last few thousand years or probably from the Neolithic age while On the contrary, there has been a lot of migration in the other direction in the last thousand years.
U didn’t answer where ur from, secondly this wasn’t a large scale migration. Baloch were and still are very tribalistic they were different familial tribes which migrated to different reigons. There are baloch in sindh, Punjab, balochistan in Pakistan, and in Sistan and Baluchestan in Iran. And some also in Afghanistan
tipirneni
03-23-2022, 12:45 AM
These people might be earlier part of Elamo-Dravidian group along with Brahuis and later got mixed with some Central Asians recently. Even though population wise they cluster away from Indian populations there is a big substrate among Indians which is similar to their and looks very old probably belongs to the Indus valley civ time.
Didac
03-23-2022, 12:54 AM
These people might be earlier part of Elamo-Dravidian group along with Brahuis and later got mixed with some Central Asians recently. Even though population wise they cluster away from Indian populations there is a big substrate among Indians which is similar to their and looks very old probably belongs to the Indus valley civ time.
They’re definitely not lol. It’s about as sure that the turks came from Central Asia to Turkey as it is the baloch came from Kurdistan/Syria. Just FYI if that was even remotely true on 23andme they’d get central Asian, but if u check they’re dna tests they get anywhere from 10-45% west Asian/iranian Caucasian and Mesopotamian I’ll try and share one
Didac
03-23-2022, 01:03 AM
Here’s a baloch dna test from 23andme high African percentage which is uncommon Idk the history of that but can clearly see what I’m talking about. Also the tiny South Indian percentage is extremely uncommon to non existent
https://i.ibb.co/QFxf7dB/32894-DBD-B834-4-B1-A-B0-B7-24397-EACD167.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/jh4XdnT/C2-B9155-D-51-D9-4-BFF-92-BD-033-C6-E158294.jpg
chinshen
03-23-2022, 01:13 AM
U didn’t answer where ur from, secondly this wasn’t a large scale migration. Baloch were and still are very tribalistic they were different familial tribes which migrated to different reigons. There are baloch in sindh, Punjab, balochistan in Pakistan, and in Sistan and Baluchestan in Iran. And some also in Afghanistan
Attached is my 23andme results113117
Didac
03-23-2022, 01:52 AM
Attached is my 23andme results113117
So ur 100% iranian. If u see on gedmatch Iranians have less west Asian than baloch on k13 for example bc Iranians have a lot higher east med. Baloch have similar west Asian percentages as some from the South Caucasus like Georgians on k13
Edit I have another ancestrydna results of a baloch too lazy to link it so I’ll just say it:
Central Asia south: 44%
Arabian peninsula: (Iraq) 27%
Iran/Persia:25%
SSA different groups to lazy to name em all:4%
chinshen
03-23-2022, 02:47 AM
So ur 100% iranian. If u see on gedmatch Iranians have less west Asian than baloch on k13 for example bc Iranians have a lot higher east med. Baloch have similar west Asian percentages as some from the South Caucasus like Georgians on k13
Edit I have another ancestrydna results of a baloch too lazy to link it so I’ll just say it:
Central Asia south: 44%
Arabian peninsula: (Iraq) 27%
Iran/Persia:25%
SSA different groups to lazy to name em all:4%
No, I am 100% Mesopotamian. It says Iranian, Caucasian & Mesopotamian. I don't know why 23and me put the three groups together.
Didac
03-23-2022, 02:50 AM
No, I am 100% Mesopotamian. It says Iranian, Caucasian & Mesopotamian. I don't know why 23and me put the three groups together.
So ur Iraqi?
chinshen
03-23-2022, 03:44 AM
So ur Iraqi?
No, I am not Iraqi. I am Assyrian from South Eastern Anatolia.
Didac
03-23-2022, 04:14 AM
No, I am not Iraqi. I am Assyrian from South Eastern Anatolia.
So ofc then you’ll have even lower west Asian than an Iranian. You’ll have more east med more west med
chinshen
03-23-2022, 05:34 AM
So ofc then you’ll have even lower west Asian than an Iranian. You’ll have more east med more west med
Why? You saw my 23andme results and they show 98.9% West Asian.
Didac
03-23-2022, 05:37 AM
Why? You saw my 23andme results and they show 98.9% West Asian.
West Asian on 23andme isn’t the same west Asian on gedmatch. West Asian on 23andme could be Lebanon Israel Syria Turkey Chechnya Oman it includes all of the Caucasus west Asia and the Middle East. West Asia in gedmatch peaks in baloch, Georgians South Caucasus iran Kurds etc. Then as u go into Iraq and Assyria there’s west Arab influences more east and west med
chinshen
03-23-2022, 05:47 AM
West Asian on 23andme isn’t the same west Asian on gedmatch. West Asian on 23andme could be Lebanon Israel Syria Turkey Chechnya Oman it includes all of the Caucasus west Asia and the Middle East. West Asia in gedmatch peaks in baloch, Georgians South Caucasus iran Kurds etc. Then as u go into Iraq and Assyria there’s west Arab influences more east and west med
23and me doesn't not include Lebanon, Syria, Israel and Oman in West Asia, they are under Arab, North African & Levantine. Also 23andme definitely does not include Baloch under West Asia, they are included in South Asia.
By the way, What is West Arab?
Didac
03-23-2022, 06:06 AM
23and me doesn't not include Lebanon, Syria, Israel and Oman in West Asia, they are under Arab, North African & Levantine. Also 23andme definitely does not include Baloch under West Asia, they are included in South Asia.
By the way, What is West Arab?
When I say west Arab I mean Levantine reigon from Lebanon Israel Jordan Palestine Syria. Secondly baloch isn’t a category in 23andme any baloch that has taken 23andme or ancestrydna has gotten a roughly half west Asian half south Asian split on 23andme and 23andme doesn’t specify what the South Asian is all it says is Pakistan etc. Thirdly when I mean west Asian I mean the large category is west Asian and North African the smaller sub category is Arab and Levantine but they’re still under the larger west Asia and North Africa category is what I was trying to say
tipirneni
03-24-2022, 03:25 AM
They’re definitely not lol. It’s about as sure that the turks came from Central Asia to Turkey as it is the baloch came from Kurdistan/Syria. Just FYI if that was even remotely true on 23andme they’d get central Asian, but if u check they’re dna tests they get anywhere from 10-45% west Asian/iranian Caucasian and Mesopotamian I’ll try and share one
This is what Davidski says. They lack EEF and also looks like migrants from Iran. Brahui are even older group matching Dravidians in India. My kits matches some of the brahui and baluchis pretty big
Here's the top five D-stats for the Balochis, with lots of populations tested and markers used.
Balochi Dai Kotias Ju_hoan_North 0.0602 21.583 510071
Balochi Dai Georgian Ju_hoan_North 0.0591 31.513 594924
Balochi Dai Iraqi_Jew Ju_hoan_North 0.0588 30.231 594924
Balochi Dai Anatolia_Neolithic Ju_hoan_North 0.0584 29.061 592940
Balochi Dai Armenian Ju_hoan_North 0.0583 30.587 594924
They're obviously in large part the descendants of recent migrants from Iran. I'm not saying they don't have any ancestry from the Mergarh people, but that's likely to be a minor component of their genomes.
Brahuis are basically the same. And yeah, I know they're Dravidians, but I don't think they have much in common with their Dravidian ancestors anymore. They just look like more ASI-shifted Balochis who speak Dravidian.
Brahui Dai Kotias Ju_hoan_North 0.0589 20.669 510071
Brahui Dai Georgian Ju_hoan_North 0.0569 29.686 594924
Brahui Dai Iraqi_Jew Ju_hoan_North 0.0569 29.086 594924
Brahui Dai Armenian Ju_hoan_North 0.0563 29.31 594924
Brahui Dai Anatolia_Neolithic Ju_hoan_North 0.0561 28.042 592940
Didac
03-25-2022, 01:35 AM
This is what Davidski says. They lack EEF and also looks like migrants from Iran. Brahui are even older group matching Dravidians in India. My kits matches some of the brahui and baluchis pretty big
Here's the top five D-stats for the Balochis, with lots of populations tested and markers used.
Balochi Dai Kotias Ju_hoan_North 0.0602 21.583 510071
Balochi Dai Georgian Ju_hoan_North 0.0591 31.513 594924
Balochi Dai Iraqi_Jew Ju_hoan_North 0.0588 30.231 594924
Balochi Dai Anatolia_Neolithic Ju_hoan_North 0.0584 29.061 592940
Balochi Dai Armenian Ju_hoan_North 0.0583 30.587 594924
They're obviously in large part the descendants of recent migrants from Iran. I'm not saying they don't have any ancestry from the Mergarh people, but that's likely to be a minor component of their genomes.
Brahuis are basically the same. And yeah, I know they're Dravidians, but I don't think they have much in common with their Dravidian ancestors anymore. They just look like more ASI-shifted Balochis who speak Dravidian.
Brahui Dai Kotias Ju_hoan_North 0.0589 20.669 510071
Brahui Dai Georgian Ju_hoan_North 0.0569 29.686 594924
Brahui Dai Iraqi_Jew Ju_hoan_North 0.0569 29.086 594924
Brahui Dai Armenian Ju_hoan_North 0.0563 29.31 594924
Brahui Dai Anatolia_Neolithic Ju_hoan_North 0.0561 28.042 592940
Yeah mate but as u said they have nothing to do with each other two different populations with two different histories and ancestral contribution dna wise. Baloch are the most western population on the south Asian plateau including Afghanistan. If u talk about baloch from iran then it would be even more western however I don’t have any gedmatch kits from baloch from iran.
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