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Didac
03-22-2022, 10:14 PM
This is quite a northern/Germanic English kit so thought it’d be interesting.

This person’s 4 grandparents are from as follows: 1 from Yorkshire 1 Hartlepool 2 from Norfolk

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.27
2 Baltic 25.89
3 West_Med 12.91
4 West_Asian 6.24
5 East_Med 3.18
6 Siberian 1.42
7 Amerindian 0.52
8 Red_Sea 0.31
9 Oceanian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 2.56
2 Orcadian 2.76
3 Danish 3.25
4 Irish 3.92
5 Southeast_English 3.96
6 North_German 3.98
7 Norwegian 4.34
8 West_Scottish 4.6
9 Southwest_English 5.06
10 Swedish 6.13
11 South_Dutch 7
12 West_German 8.01
13 North_Swedish 11.92
14 Austrian 12.13
15 East_German 12.32
16 French 13.06
17 Hungarian 16.71
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.71
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.37
20 Southwest_French 21.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86% Norwegian + 14% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.4
2 90.4% Orcadian + 9.6% Croatian @ 1.46
3 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% Austrian @ 1.47
4 91.1% Orcadian + 8.9% Moldavian @ 1.48
5 87.8% Orcadian + 12.2% Hungarian @ 1.49
6 84.1% Orcadian + 15.9% East_German @ 1.52
7 91.2% Orcadian + 8.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.53
8 90.5% Orcadian + 9.5% South_Polish @ 1.53
9 92.6% Orcadian + 7.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.56
10 91.5% Orcadian + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 1.56
11 92.5% Norwegian + 7.5% Sardinian @ 1.57
12 85.2% Norwegian + 14.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.57
13 83.4% Norwegian + 16.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.58
14 92.6% Orcadian + 7.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.6
15 62.9% Norwegian + 37.1% South_Dutch @ 1.62
16 84.5% Norwegian + 15.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.64
17 85.2% Norwegian + 14.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.66
18 85.5% Norwegian + 14.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.67
19 93.9% Orcadian + 6.1% Erzya @ 1.67
20 84.1% Norwegian + 15.9% Southwest_French @ 1.68




# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 32.94
2 Atlantic 29.42
3 Eastern_Euro 13.94
4 Baltic 9.51
5 West_Med 8.69
6 West_Asian 4.02
7 East_Med 0.77
8 Siberian 0.33
9 Amerindian 0.3
10 Oceanian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 5.52
2 Danish 5.55
3 North_German 5.98
4 Southwest_English 5.99
5 West_Scottish 6.18
6 Irish 6.31
7 North_Dutch 6.81
8 South_Dutch 6.9
9 Orcadian 7.79
10 Norwegian 9.07
11 West_German 9.88
12 West_Norwegian 10.31
13 Swedish 10.5
14 North_Swedish 11.05
15 East_German 11.68
16 French 11.77
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.19
18 Austrian 15.29
19 Hungarian 16.84
20 Finnish 17.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.6% Southeast_English + 9.4% Chuvash @ 3.84
2 92% Southeast_English + 8% Mari @ 3.99
3 87.7% Southeast_English + 12.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.13
4 89.3% Southeast_English + 10.7% Erzya @ 4.17
5 88.1% Danish + 11.9% French_Basque @ 4.26
6 85.8% Southeast_English + 14.2% East_Finnish @ 4.27
7 90.2% Southwest_English + 9.8% Chuvash @ 4.33
8 85.5% Danish + 14.5% Southwest_French @ 4.35
9 89.7% West_Scottish + 10.3% Chuvash @ 4.39
10 89.9% Southeast_English + 10.1% Tatar @ 4.43
11 89.5% Irish + 10.5% Chuvash @ 4.46
12 91.6% Southwest_English + 8.4% Mari @ 4.47
13 86% Danish + 14% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.47
14 86.8% Southwest_English + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.5
15 81% Southeast_English + 19% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.53
16 84.3% Southwest_English + 15.7% East_Finnish @ 4.53
17 87.2% Danish + 12.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.55
18 87.5% Danish + 12.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.55
19 91.3% West_Scottish + 8.7% Mari @ 4.56
20 89.4% Southeast_English + 10.6% Southwest_Russian @ 4.59


# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.88
2 ATLANTIC 25.96
3 EAST_EURO 14.72
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.58
5 WEST_MED 10.25
6 WEST_ASIAN 4.43
7 EAST_MED 2.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 DK 2.45
2 NO 3.54
3 NL 3.54
4 Orcadian 4.22
5 English 4.25
6 West_&_Central_German 4.61
7 South_&_Central_Swedish 4.79
8 IE 5.09
9 Cornish 5.56
10 Scottish 6.49
11 North_Swedish 8.38
12 AT 11.85
13 FR 13.35
14 HU 16.72
15 South_Finnish 17.45
16 Serbian 19.29
17 PL 20.53
18 PT 20.65
19 ES 21.12
20 East_Finnish 22.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% NO + 37.2% Cornish @ 1.63
2 50% NO + 50% NL @ 1.83
3 74.8% DK + 25.2% IE @ 1.86
4 70.7% DK + 29.3% Orcadian @ 1.89
5 56% NO + 44% English @ 1.92
6 61.4% NO + 38.6% IE @ 1.94
7 55.9% NO + 44.1% Orcadian @ 1.97
8 81.8% NO + 18.2% FR @ 1.98
9 67.4% DK + 32.6% NL @ 2
10 97.6% DK + 2.4% GE @ 2.02
11 90.1% NO + 9.9% French_Basque @ 2.05
12 97.2% DK + 2.8% Lezgin @ 2.05
13 68.6% English + 31.4% North_Swedish @ 2.06
14 80% DK + 20% Cornish @ 2.08
15 76.3% DK + 23.7% West_&_Central_German @ 2.09
16 88.1% NO + 11.9% ES @ 2.1
17 83.4% DK + 16.6% Scottish @ 2.12
18 93.6% DK + 6.4% HU @ 2.17
19 54.5% South_&_Central_Swedish + 45.5% Cornish @ 2.17
20 95.3% DK + 4.7% RO @ 2.18

Didac
03-22-2022, 10:15 PM
If anyone has outlier/uncommon 100% English results post them here e.g very Germanic/northern ones or very southern or eastern or western ones

J. Ketch
03-23-2022, 06:23 AM
One from Nottinghamshire I found recently

Kit GA7909082

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.75
2 Baltic 27.6
3 West_Med 9.3
4 West_Asian 6.19
5 East_Med 2.35
6 Red_Sea 2.2
7 South_Asian 1.58
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Northeast_African 0.05
10 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 2.75
2 North_Dutch 2.89
3 Norwegian 2.89
4 North_German 3.45
5 Swedish 4.16
6 Orcadian 4.98
7 Irish 5.24
8 West_Scottish 5.83
9 Southeast_English 6.85
10 Southwest_English 7.72
11 South_Dutch 9.79
12 North_Swedish 10.02
13 West_German 10.49
14 East_German 13.01
15 Austrian 13.13
16 French 15.89
17 Hungarian 17.27
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.24
19 South_Polish 21.31
20 Croatian 22.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Saudi @ 1.88
2 96.7% Norwegian + 3.3% Bedouin @ 2.04
3 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.06
4 96.8% Norwegian + 3.2% Iranian @ 2.11
5 97.1% Norwegian + 2.9% Makrani @ 2.13
6 96.8% Norwegian + 3.2% Syrian @ 2.13
7 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Palestinian @ 2.14
8 58.3% Norwegian + 41.7% North_German @ 2.15
9 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Jordanian @ 2.16
10 97% Norwegian + 3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.16
11 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Sindhi @ 2.17
12 97% Norwegian + 3% Egyptian @ 2.17
13 97% Norwegian + 3% Pathan @ 2.18
14 97.1% Norwegian + 2.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.18
15 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Brahui @ 2.18
16 96.7% Norwegian + 3.3% Azeri @ 2.19
17 96.6% Norwegian + 3.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.19
18 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Kurdish @ 2.19
19 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Balochi @ 2.19
20 97% Norwegian + 3% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.2


Distance to: Nottinghamshire
2.81712620 Icelandic
2.85538089 Danish
3.03214446 Norwegian_Southcentral
3.10290187 Norwegian
3.14456674 Swedish_Götaland
3.22778562 Dutch_North
3.79942101 German_Northwest
4.21470046 Swedish_West-Svealand
4.21862537 Dutch_Central
4.66908985 Dutch
4.75194697 Swedish
5.93325374 English_North
6.10924709 Scottish
6.52928021 English_Midlands
6.73867198 Irish
6.74094949 Welsh
6.79928673 English_Southeast
7.26812906 English_Southwest
7.95440130 Swedish_East-Svealand
8.74531303 Dutch_South

Distance to: Nottinghamshire
2.62459521 German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.64767823 Dutch_Friesland
2.81712620 Icelandic
2.85538089 Danish
3.03214446 Norwegian_Southcentral
3.14456674 Swedish_Götaland
3.55119698 Dutch_North-Holland
3.57910603 Dutch_Overijssel
3.58185706 German_Hamburg
3.71282911 German_Westphalia
3.79942101 German_Lower_Saxony_South
3.92725095 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.21470046 Swedish_West-Svealand
4.32660375 Scottish_Shetland
5.18275024 Dutch_Gelderland
5.22614581 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
5.45932230 English_Northeast
5.49921813 Scottish_Orkney
5.91821764 Scottish_Northeast
5.93472830 English_Yorkshire


One from Staffordshire with low North Atlantic

Kit T203093

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.97
2 Baltic 26.85
3 West_Med 14.62
4 East_Med 8.41
5 West_Asian 3.94
6 Red_Sea 1
7 South_Asian 0.82
8 Oceanian 0.18
9 Northeast_African 0.14
10 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 4.82
2 South_Dutch 4.82
3 North_German 6.61
4 Austrian 7.06
5 Southeast_English 7.24
6 East_German 7.9
7 Danish 7.92
8 North_Dutch 8.09
9 Orcadian 8.78
10 Southwest_English 9.53
11 Swedish 9.65
12 Norwegian 9.78
13 French 9.82
14 Irish 10.13
15 West_Scottish 10.64
16 Hungarian 11.63
17 North_Swedish 12.77
18 Serbian 16.68
19 Croatian 17.09
20 Spanish_Cataluna 17.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Austrian + 49.3% Southeast_English @ 2.31
2 62.5% Southeast_English + 37.5% Hungarian @ 2.37
3 71.3% Southeast_English + 28.7% Croatian @ 2.47
4 86% South_Dutch + 14% Belorussian @ 2.68
5 87.8% South_Dutch + 12.2% Lithuanian @ 2.75
6 73.6% Southeast_English + 26.4% Moldavian @ 2.75
7 70.4% Swedish + 29.6% North_Italian @ 2.75
8 86.5% South_Dutch + 13.5% Estonian @ 2.78
9 52.5% Southeast_English + 47.5% East_German @ 2.78
10 86.4% South_Dutch + 13.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
11 71.2% Southeast_English + 28.8% Serbian @ 2.84
12 57% French + 43% North_Swedish @ 2.88
13 82.8% South_Dutch + 17.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.9
14 84.5% South_Dutch + 15.5% Polish @ 2.93
15 55.4% Southwest_English + 44.6% Hungarian @ 2.93
16 86.5% South_Dutch + 13.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.97
17 58.6% Austrian + 41.4% Southwest_English @ 3
18 82.8% South_Dutch + 17.2% South_Polish @ 3.05
19 86.6% South_Dutch + 13.4% Finnish @ 3.06
20 66.3% South_Dutch + 33.7% East_German @ 3.11



Distance to: Staffordshire
3.89219732 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.14971083 Dutch_Limburg
4.90941952 German_North_Moravia
5.14904846 Flemish
5.26959201 German_North_Hesse
5.39297691 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
5.59457773 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.74078392 Dutch_South-Holland
6.18988691 French_Normandy
6.25919324 German_Bavaria_Proper
6.30854183 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.31093495 German_North_Rhine
6.43268995 German_South_Hesse
6.45184470 German_Baden-Württemberg
6.45680261 French_Alsace
6.47050230 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
6.61810396 German_Thuringia_Central
6.78319983 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
6.89375079 English_East
7.17455225 French_Northeast


One of the lowest North Atlantic scores in an English person I've seen was former member Jackson's mother, from SE England


Distance to: Jackson_mother(english)
4.00366082 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.04944441 German_North_Rhine
4.60166274 German_North_Moravia
4.78882031 Flemish
5.39527571 Dutch_Limburg
5.81720723 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
5.87170333 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
5.94777269 German_Bavaria_Proper
5.94921844 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.95728126 German_Baden-Württemberg
5.96930482 French_Alsace
6.01493142 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.17601813 German_South_Hesse
6.18750354 Swiss_German_North
6.29996032 French_Northeast
6.40598158 French_Normandy
6.47248793 Dutch_South-Holland
6.83456473 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.00812386 German_West_Bohemia
7.10273187 Swiss_German

In general though English kits are pretty homogenous, nearly all falling on the Irish-like to Dutch-like spectrum (and contrary to popular belief, most are closer to Dutch). A few plot closest to Germans, seldom is one closest to Scandinavians, and I can't remember seeing one closest to French.

J. Ketch
03-23-2022, 06:29 AM
^That is only K13 though, K36 can be different, I'm currently converting kits to K36.

K36
Distance to: English_East(n=19)
2.04166599 English_East-Midlands(n=28)
2.07016908 English_West-Midlands(n=44)
3.31292922 English_Yorkshire(n=28)
4.05253007 English_Southwest(n=25)
4.35707471 English_Northeast(n=13)
4.49288326 Dutch_South(n=5)
4.74464962 Dutch(n=26)
4.79611301 Dutch_Central(n=12)
5.09336824 Welsh(n=40)
5.78706316 Flemish(n=14)
6.27083726 Irish_Leinster(n=27)
6.74982963 Cornish(n=13)
6.91424616 French_Brittany(n=7)
9.07642551 Irish_Ulster(n=27)
9.68977296 Dutch_North(n=5)

Distance to: English_East-Midlands(n=28)
2.04166599 English_East(n=19)
2.05402045 English_West-Midlands(n=44)
2.95951009 English_Yorkshire(n=28)
3.63787026 English_Northeast(n=13)
4.09499695 English_Southwest(n=25)
4.40507662 Dutch_Central(n=12)
4.51351304 Dutch_South(n=5)
4.52036503 Dutch(n=26)
5.16213134 Welsh(n=40)
5.44214112 Flemish(n=14)
5.96174471 Cornish(n=13)
6.06295308 Irish_Leinster(n=27)
7.23389245 French_Brittany(n=7)
9.26341730 Irish_Ulster(n=27)
9.62123173 Dutch_North(n=5)

Distance to: English_Northeast(n=13)
2.91724185 English_West-Midlands(n=44)
3.12237089 English_Yorkshire(n=28)
3.22311961 Welsh(n=40)
3.33627037 Irish_Leinster(n=27)
3.43917141 Cornish(n=13)
3.59367500 English_Southwest(n=25)
3.63787026 English_East-Midlands(n=28)
4.35707471 English_East(n=19)
4.59754282 Dutch(n=26)
5.22407887 Dutch_Central(n=12)
5.24376773 Dutch_South(n=5)
6.80443973 Irish_Ulster(n=27)
7.06129592 French_Brittany(n=7)
7.56889688 Flemish(n=14)
9.03344895 Dutch_North(n=5)

Distance to: English_Southwest(n=25)
2.96000000 Welsh(n=40)
3.57633891 English_West-Midlands(n=44)
3.59367500 English_Northeast(n=13)
3.74925326 English_Yorkshire(n=28)
3.77308892 Irish_Leinster(n=27)
4.05253007 English_East(n=19)
4.09499695 English_East-Midlands(n=28)
4.20095227 Cornish(n=13)
5.84657164 French_Brittany(n=7)
6.02335455 Dutch_South(n=5)
6.29505361 Irish_Ulster(n=27)
6.34167959 Dutch(n=26)
6.96879473 Dutch_Central(n=12)
8.03714502 Flemish(n=14)
10.23465192 Dutch_North(n=5)

Distance to: English_West-Midlands(n=44)
2.05402045 English_East-Midlands(n=28)
2.07016908 English_East(n=19)
2.37661524 English_Yorkshire(n=28)
2.91724185 English_Northeast(n=13)
3.57633891 English_Southwest(n=25)
4.07030711 Welsh(n=40)
4.14488842 Dutch(n=26)
4.40382788 Dutch_Central(n=12)
4.79053233 Dutch_South(n=5)
5.08782861 Irish_Leinster(n=27)
5.44132337 Cornish(n=13)
6.26221207 Flemish(n=14)
6.89354771 French_Brittany(n=7)
8.28412337 Irish_Ulster(n=27)
9.05646178 Dutch_North(n=5)

Distance to: English_Yorkshire(n=28)
2.37661524 English_West-Midlands(n=44)
2.95951009 English_East-Midlands(n=28)
3.12237089 English_Northeast(n=13)
3.31292922 English_East(n=19)
3.68787202 Dutch(n=26)
3.74925326 English_Southwest(n=25)
3.92240997 Welsh(n=40)
4.27892510 Dutch_Central(n=12)
4.89169705 Irish_Leinster(n=27)
5.43473090 Dutch_South(n=5)
5.58953486 Cornish(n=13)
7.44116926 Flemish(n=14)
7.59902625 Dutch_North(n=5)
7.87949237 Irish_Ulster(n=27)
8.36666600 French_Brittany(n=7)



Distance to: English_West-Midlands(n=44)
1.92000113 37.60% Flemish(n=14) + 62.40% Welsh(n=40)
2.32177492 65.40% Dutch(n=26) + 34.60% French_Brittany(n=7)
2.34968841 47.20% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 52.80% Welsh(n=40)
2.41110912 63.60% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 36.40% French_Brittany(n=7)
2.45937665 43.60% Flemish(n=14) + 56.40% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.50321249 55.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 45.00% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.67020719 57.60% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 42.40% Cornish(n=13)
2.71523573 49.20% Dutch(n=26) + 50.80% Welsh(n=40)
2.72680269 43.40% Dutch_South(n=5) + 56.60% Welsh(n=40)
2.73635242 42.20% Dutch_North(n=5) + 57.80% French_Brittany(n=7)

Distance to: English_Yorkshire(n=28)
2.09401948 47.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 53.00% Welsh(n=40)
2.18768305 54.40% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 45.60% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.23004990 52.40% Dutch(n=26) + 47.60% Welsh(n=40)
2.31826142 60.00% Dutch(n=26) + 40.00% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.45978732 68.20% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 31.80% Irish_Ulster(n=27)
2.53277531 65.00% Dutch(n=26) + 35.00% Cornish(n=13)
2.67835761 59.60% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 40.40% Cornish(n=13)
2.68841359 74.60% Dutch(n=26) + 25.40% Irish_Ulster(n=27)
2.78424671 52.80% Dutch_North(n=5) + 47.20% French_Brittany(n=7)
2.86292220 28.00% Flemish(n=14) + 72.00% Welsh(n=40)

Distance to: English_Southwest(n=25)
2.16061773 27.20% French_Brittany(n=7) + 72.80% Welsh(n=40)
2.30949205 19.40% Flemish(n=14) + 80.60% Welsh(n=40)
2.47027577 43.00% Flemish(n=14) + 57.00% Irish_Ulster(n=27)
2.54968526 21.60% Dutch_South(n=5) + 78.40% Welsh(n=40)
2.69466137 25.80% Flemish(n=14) + 74.20% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.81952649 34.20% Dutch_North(n=5) + 65.80% French_Brittany(n=7)
2.84101818 21.20% Cornish(n=13) + 78.80% Welsh(n=40)
2.85541681 31.80% Dutch_South(n=5) + 68.20% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.87591603 10.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 90.00% Welsh(n=40)
2.91207640 8.60% Dutch(n=26) + 91.40% Welsh(n=40)

Distance to: English_Northeast(n=13)
1.19668955 42.00% Dutch(n=26) + 58.00% Cornish(n=13)
1.30103232 38.60% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 61.40% Cornish(n=13)
1.41165012 37.60% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 62.40% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
1.66601912 40.20% Dutch(n=26) + 59.80% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
1.73976508 27.80% Flemish(n=14) + 72.20% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
1.76408274 36.40% Dutch_South(n=5) + 63.60% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
1.93954828 36.80% Dutch_South(n=5) + 63.20% Cornish(n=13)
2.19554278 23.20% Dutch_North(n=5) + 76.80% Cornish(n=13)
2.23219040 33.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 67.00% Welsh(n=40)
2.23824180 24.20% Flemish(n=14) + 75.80% Welsh(n=40)

Distance to: English_East-Midlands(n=28)
2.30418363 48.40% Flemish(n=14) + 51.60% Welsh(n=40)
2.64378643 53.40% Flemish(n=14) + 46.60% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
2.74068318 66.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 34.00% French_Brittany(n=7)
2.86283631 65.60% Flemish(n=14) + 34.40% Irish_Ulster(n=27)
3.02918420 66.20% Dutch(n=26) + 33.80% French_Brittany(n=7)
3.08680834 61.80% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 38.20% Cornish(n=13)
3.21603223 57.20% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 42.80% Welsh(n=40)
3.24207188 58.20% Dutch(n=26) + 41.80% Flemish(n=14)
3.27255310 63.40% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 36.60% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
3.33098273 32.20% Dutch_North(n=5) + 67.80% Flemish(n=14)

Distance to: English_East(n=19)
2.60024809 45.80% Flemish(n=14) + 54.20% Welsh(n=40)
2.86151109 62.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 38.00% French_Brittany(n=7)
2.98528276 62.80% Dutch(n=26) + 37.20% French_Brittany(n=7)
3.07898392 63.60% Flemish(n=14) + 36.40% Irish_Ulster(n=27)
3.20139310 52.80% Flemish(n=14) + 47.20% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
3.28337309 56.00% Dutch_South(n=5) + 44.00% Welsh(n=40)
3.46550769 53.00% Dutch_Central(n=12) + 47.00% Welsh(n=40)
3.53888725 39.80% Dutch_North(n=5) + 60.20% French_Brittany(n=7)
3.62565683 65.80% Dutch_South(n=5) + 34.20% Irish_Leinster(n=27)
3.65057263 59.80% Dutch(n=26) + 40.20% Flemish(n=14)
^Check out the West Midlands English (bordering Wales) being approximately equidistant between Welsh and Dutch kits. Welsh and English are not the same!

Didac
03-23-2022, 07:03 AM
One from Nottinghamshire I found recently

Kit GA7909082

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.75
2 Baltic 27.6
3 West_Med 9.3
4 West_Asian 6.19
5 East_Med 2.35
6 Red_Sea 2.2
7 South_Asian 1.58
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Northeast_African 0.05
10 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 2.75
2 North_Dutch 2.89
3 Norwegian 2.89
4 North_German 3.45
5 Swedish 4.16
6 Orcadian 4.98
7 Irish 5.24
8 West_Scottish 5.83
9 Southeast_English 6.85
10 Southwest_English 7.72
11 South_Dutch 9.79
12 North_Swedish 10.02
13 West_German 10.49
14 East_German 13.01
15 Austrian 13.13
16 French 15.89
17 Hungarian 17.27
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.24
19 South_Polish 21.31
20 Croatian 22.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Saudi @ 1.88
2 96.7% Norwegian + 3.3% Bedouin @ 2.04
3 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.06
4 96.8% Norwegian + 3.2% Iranian @ 2.11
5 97.1% Norwegian + 2.9% Makrani @ 2.13
6 96.8% Norwegian + 3.2% Syrian @ 2.13
7 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Palestinian @ 2.14
8 58.3% Norwegian + 41.7% North_German @ 2.15
9 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Jordanian @ 2.16
10 97% Norwegian + 3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.16
11 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Sindhi @ 2.17
12 97% Norwegian + 3% Egyptian @ 2.17
13 97% Norwegian + 3% Pathan @ 2.18
14 97.1% Norwegian + 2.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.18
15 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Brahui @ 2.18
16 96.7% Norwegian + 3.3% Azeri @ 2.19
17 96.6% Norwegian + 3.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.19
18 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Kurdish @ 2.19
19 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Balochi @ 2.19
20 97% Norwegian + 3% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.2


Distance to: Nottinghamshire
2.81712620 Icelandic
2.85538089 Danish
3.03214446 Norwegian_Southcentral
3.10290187 Norwegian
3.14456674 Swedish_Götaland
3.22778562 Dutch_North
3.79942101 German_Northwest
4.21470046 Swedish_West-Svealand
4.21862537 Dutch_Central
4.66908985 Dutch
4.75194697 Swedish
5.93325374 English_North
6.10924709 Scottish
6.52928021 English_Midlands
6.73867198 Irish
6.74094949 Welsh
6.79928673 English_Southeast
7.26812906 English_Southwest
7.95440130 Swedish_East-Svealand
8.74531303 Dutch_South

Distance to: Nottinghamshire
2.62459521 German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.64767823 Dutch_Friesland
2.81712620 Icelandic
2.85538089 Danish
3.03214446 Norwegian_Southcentral
3.14456674 Swedish_Götaland
3.55119698 Dutch_North-Holland
3.57910603 Dutch_Overijssel
3.58185706 German_Hamburg
3.71282911 German_Westphalia
3.79942101 German_Lower_Saxony_South
3.92725095 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.21470046 Swedish_West-Svealand
4.32660375 Scottish_Shetland
5.18275024 Dutch_Gelderland
5.22614581 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
5.45932230 English_Northeast
5.49921813 Scottish_Orkney
5.91821764 Scottish_Northeast
5.93472830 English_Yorkshire


One from Staffordshire with low North Atlantic

Kit T203093

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.97
2 Baltic 26.85
3 West_Med 14.62
4 East_Med 8.41
5 West_Asian 3.94
6 Red_Sea 1
7 South_Asian 0.82
8 Oceanian 0.18
9 Northeast_African 0.14
10 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 4.82
2 South_Dutch 4.82
3 North_German 6.61
4 Austrian 7.06
5 Southeast_English 7.24
6 East_German 7.9
7 Danish 7.92
8 North_Dutch 8.09
9 Orcadian 8.78
10 Southwest_English 9.53
11 Swedish 9.65
12 Norwegian 9.78
13 French 9.82
14 Irish 10.13
15 West_Scottish 10.64
16 Hungarian 11.63
17 North_Swedish 12.77
18 Serbian 16.68
19 Croatian 17.09
20 Spanish_Cataluna 17.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Austrian + 49.3% Southeast_English @ 2.31
2 62.5% Southeast_English + 37.5% Hungarian @ 2.37
3 71.3% Southeast_English + 28.7% Croatian @ 2.47
4 86% South_Dutch + 14% Belorussian @ 2.68
5 87.8% South_Dutch + 12.2% Lithuanian @ 2.75
6 73.6% Southeast_English + 26.4% Moldavian @ 2.75
7 70.4% Swedish + 29.6% North_Italian @ 2.75
8 86.5% South_Dutch + 13.5% Estonian @ 2.78
9 52.5% Southeast_English + 47.5% East_German @ 2.78
10 86.4% South_Dutch + 13.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
11 71.2% Southeast_English + 28.8% Serbian @ 2.84
12 57% French + 43% North_Swedish @ 2.88
13 82.8% South_Dutch + 17.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.9
14 84.5% South_Dutch + 15.5% Polish @ 2.93
15 55.4% Southwest_English + 44.6% Hungarian @ 2.93
16 86.5% South_Dutch + 13.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.97
17 58.6% Austrian + 41.4% Southwest_English @ 3
18 82.8% South_Dutch + 17.2% South_Polish @ 3.05
19 86.6% South_Dutch + 13.4% Finnish @ 3.06
20 66.3% South_Dutch + 33.7% East_German @ 3.11



Distance to: Staffordshire
3.89219732 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.14971083 Dutch_Limburg
4.90941952 German_North_Moravia
5.14904846 Flemish
5.26959201 German_North_Hesse
5.39297691 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
5.59457773 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.74078392 Dutch_South-Holland
6.18988691 French_Normandy
6.25919324 German_Bavaria_Proper
6.30854183 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.31093495 German_North_Rhine
6.43268995 German_South_Hesse
6.45184470 German_Baden-Württemberg
6.45680261 French_Alsace
6.47050230 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
6.61810396 German_Thuringia_Central
6.78319983 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
6.89375079 English_East
7.17455225 French_Northeast


One of the lowest North Atlantic scores in an English person I've seen was former member Jackson's mother, from SE England


Distance to: Jackson_mother(english)
4.00366082 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.04944441 German_North_Rhine
4.60166274 German_North_Moravia
4.78882031 Flemish
5.39527571 Dutch_Limburg
5.81720723 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
5.87170333 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
5.94777269 German_Bavaria_Proper
5.94921844 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.95728126 German_Baden-Württemberg
5.96930482 French_Alsace
6.01493142 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.17601813 German_South_Hesse
6.18750354 Swiss_German_North
6.29996032 French_Northeast
6.40598158 French_Normandy
6.47248793 Dutch_South-Holland
6.83456473 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.00812386 German_West_Bohemia
7.10273187 Swiss_German

In general though English kits are pretty homogenous, nearly all falling on the Irish-like to Dutch-like spectrum (and contrary to popular belief, most are closer to Dutch). A few plot closest to Germans, seldom is one closest to Scandinavians, and I can't remember seeing one closest to French.



It seems people from south east England what was thought to be one of the most north Germanic areas are very close to south dutch and kits like these are decently common looks similar to the one I showed u except the one I showed u had the average levels of west med in England and like 1-2% higher Atlantic

J. Ketch
03-23-2022, 07:28 AM
A couple of the most Southern shifted kits I've seen, from around Birmingham/Black Country:

Kit A397965

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 46.61
2 Baltic 22.54
3 West_Med 16.53
4 East_Med 8.24
5 West_Asian 3.28
6 Red_Sea 1.3
7 Oceanian 0.75
8 East_Asian 0.37
9 Sub-Saharan 0.3
10 Amerindian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.51
2 West_German 4.77
3 Southeast_English 5.32
4 French 6.94
5 Southwest_English 6.99
6 Orcadian 7.85
7 North_Dutch 8.5
8 North_German 8.67
9 Danish 8.76
10 Irish 9.11
11 West_Scottish 9.21
12 Norwegian 10.86
13 Austrian 11.16
14 Swedish 11.96
15 East_German 12.33
16 Spanish_Cataluna 13.92
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.13
18 Spanish_Galicia 15.37
19 Portuguese 15.51
20 Southwest_French 15.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.4% Swedish + 41.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.12
2 60.8% Norwegian + 39.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.13
3 66.7% North_Dutch + 33.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.2
4 53.9% Swedish + 46.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.24
5 56.4% Norwegian + 43.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.29
6 59.1% Norwegian + 40.9% Portuguese @ 2.34
7 81.2% Southeast_English + 18.8% North_Italian @ 2.36
8 62.7% North_Dutch + 37.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.37
9 65.3% North_Dutch + 34.7% Portuguese @ 2.41
10 66.1% Danish + 33.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.42
11 58.6% Swedish + 41.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.46
12 57.9% Southeast_English + 42.1% French @ 2.48
13 84.7% Southeast_English + 15.3% Tuscan @ 2.53
14 61% Norwegian + 39% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.53
15 58.5% Norwegian + 41.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.53
16 62% Danish + 38% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.53
17 64.8% North_Dutch + 35.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.55
18 67.1% North_Dutch + 32.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.58
19 56.1% Swedish + 43.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.58
20 64.6% Danish + 35.4% Portuguese @ 2.6


Distance to: Birmingham
3.33388662 Belgian
3.75602183 French_North
4.04545424 Dutch_South
4.31344410 French_Brittany
5.62401102 German_Southwest
6.00389041 English_Southeast
6.35568250 English_Midlands
6.71664351 English_Southwest
6.95156817 French_Alsace
7.32826037 Dutch
7.54418319 English_North
7.59717053 French_Central
7.66252569 Swiss_German
7.91512476 Dutch_Central
8.10515885 Welsh
8.40841840 German
8.82776302 German_Northwest
9.15534270 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
9.17912305 Scottish
9.60400958 Dutch_North

Distance to: Birmingham
2.83716408 French_Normandy
3.66167994 Flemish
3.74370138 Dutch_Limburg
4.18689623 French_Hauts_de_France
4.31344410 French_Brittany
4.39121851 German_North_Hesse
4.80911634 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
4.86557294 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
4.91656384 French_Northeast
5.26447528 Dutch_North-Brabant
5.30234854 German_Saarland
5.33117248 English_East
5.62401102 German_South_Hesse
5.64817670 German_North_Rhine
6.11290438 Dutch_South-Holland
6.13744246 English_East-Midlands
6.35062202 English_Southeast
6.65027067 English_West-Midlands
6.78392217 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
6.84767844 Cornish

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Kit A655510

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.43
2 Baltic 22.7
3 West_Med 16.75
4 West_Asian 7.78
5 East_Med 5.29
6 East_Asian 1.04
7 Sub-Saharan 0.43
8 Oceanian 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.41
2 West_German 4.32
3 Southeast_English 6.09
4 Southwest_English 6.95
5 Orcadian 7.57
6 North_German 7.62
7 North_Dutch 8.04
8 French 8.19
9 Irish 8.25
10 Danish 8.36
11 West_Scottish 8.86
12 Austrian 10.27
13 Norwegian 10.27
14 Swedish 11.28
15 East_German 11.42
16 Hungarian 15.07
17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.17
18 North_Swedish 16.07
19 Southwest_French 16.51
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Southwest_English + 21.1% Bulgarian @ 2.42
2 76.9% Southwest_English + 23.1% Romanian @ 2.5
3 74.6% Southwest_English + 25.4% Serbian @ 2.79
4 69.8% North_German + 30.2% Southwest_French @ 2.9
5 70.4% North_German + 29.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.96
6 85.7% North_Dutch + 14.3% Sardinian @ 3
7 67.1% West_German + 32.9% Southwest_English @ 3.03
8 73.7% North_German + 26.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.05
9 80.7% South_Dutch + 19.3% Southwest_English @ 3.07
10 83.9% South_Dutch + 16.1% Irish @ 3.07
11 72.1% North_German + 27.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.13
12 86.9% South_Dutch + 13.1% West_Scottish @ 3.17
13 82.7% Southwest_English + 17.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
14 84.8% South_Dutch + 15.2% Orcadian @ 3.18
15 68.2% North_German + 31.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.18
16 73.4% North_German + 26.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.2
17 86.6% North_German + 13.4% Sardinian @ 3.22
18 86.8% South_Dutch + 13.2% North_Dutch @ 3.22
19 90% South_Dutch + 10% Norwegian @ 3.23
20 64.4% Swedish + 35.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.23




Distance to: WestMidlands
3.66610147 Belgian
3.79549733 Dutch_South
4.62364575 French_Brittany
4.76067222 French_North
5.46850985 English_Southeast
5.85233287 English_Midlands
5.91910466 German_Southwest
6.23576780 English_Southwest
6.79801442 French_Alsace
7.03695247 Welsh
7.05606122 English_North
7.31068396 Dutch
7.42584675 German
7.55515056 German_Northwest
7.74034883 Swiss_German
8.06739735 Dutch_Central
8.12672136 Scottish
8.72331932 French_Central
8.77532905 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
8.96428887 Austrian_Lower_Austria

Distance to: WestMidlands
3.17562592 Flemish
3.88592331 French_Normandy
4.15220423 German_North_Rhine
4.24124982 Dutch_North-Brabant
4.62364575 French_Brittany
4.71527306 Dutch_Limburg
4.95884059 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
5.08866387 French_Northeast
5.26730481 English_East
5.44544764 Dutch_South-Holland
5.51186901 English_East-Midlands
5.66807728 English_Southeast
5.87492979 French_Hauts_de_France
5.91285041 German_Saarland
5.91910466 German_South_Hesse
6.00762848 Swiss_German_North
6.15293426 English_West-Midlands
6.19061386 English_West-Country
6.19429576 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
6.69599881 Cornish
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From SE England

Kit FP2574789

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.06
2 Baltic 21.9
3 West_Med 14.76
4 East_Med 8.45
5 West_Asian 6.29
6 Oceanian 1.27
7 East_Asian 0.91
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Amerindian 0.77
10 Siberian 0.52
11 South_Asian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 1.75
2 South_Dutch 2.54
3 French 6.77
4 Southeast_English 6.83
5 North_German 8.02
6 Southwest_English 8.68
7 Orcadian 8.84
8 North_Dutch 8.97
9 Danish 9.06
10 Austrian 9.5
11 Irish 9.87
12 West_Scottish 10.26
13 East_German 11.16
14 Norwegian 11.32
15 Swedish 12.05
16 Hungarian 13.69
17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.37
18 Portuguese 15.64
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.71
20 Spanish_Galicia 15.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.2% West_German + 10.8% Southeast_English @ 1.55
2 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Southwest_English @ 1.57
3 99.3% West_German + 0.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 1.61
4 93.7% West_German + 6.3% West_Scottish @ 1.61
5 93% West_German + 7% Orcadian @ 1.62
6 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Papuan @ 1.63
7 97.6% West_German + 2.4% French_Basque @ 1.63
8 94.3% West_German + 5.7% Irish @ 1.65
9 99.4% West_German + 0.6% Miaozu @ 1.67
10 99.5% West_German + 0.5% She @ 1.67
11 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Dai @ 1.67
12 99.4% West_German + 0.6% Tujia @ 1.67
13 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Vietnamese @ 1.67
14 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Lahu @ 1.67
15 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Yizu @ 1.68
16 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Naxi @ 1.69
17 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Japanese @ 1.69
18 95% West_German + 5% North_Dutch @ 1.69
19 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Cambodian @ 1.69
20 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Malay @ 1.7


Distance to: SE_Eng
2.38639896 Belgian
3.22917946 French_North
3.88921586 German_Southwest
4.30931549 Dutch_South
4.47506425 French_Alsace
5.29409105 Swiss_German
6.02963515 French_Brittany
6.70578854 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
6.71501303 English_Southeast
6.94805009 German
7.27395353 English_Midlands
7.45984584 French_Central
7.97230205 English_Southwest
8.09882090 Dutch
8.25150744 Austrian_Lower_Austria
8.59722048 English_North
8.63679918 Austrian_Burgenland
8.64071178 Swiss_French
8.68184888 German_Northwest
8.78227192 Dutch_Central

Distance to: SE_Eng
2.43244733 German_North_Rhine
2.88392094 Flemish
3.18094326 Dutch_Limburg
3.26427634 German_North_Hesse
3.27177322 French_Northeast
3.45532922 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
3.53048155 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
3.55811748 French_Normandy
3.88921586 German_South_Hesse
3.91757578 French_Hauts_de_France
4.15636861 German_Baden-Württemberg
4.34259139 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.47506425 French_Alsace
4.61878772 German_Saarland
4.61900422 Swiss_German_North
5.19976923 German_Bavaria_Proper
5.29409105 Swiss_German
5.55800324 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.02963515 French_Brittany
6.12010621 English_East

That is pretty much the Southern limit.

Didac
03-23-2022, 08:46 AM
A couple of the most Southern shifted kits I've seen, from around Birmingham:

Kit A397965

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 46.61
2 Baltic 22.54
3 West_Med 16.53
4 East_Med 8.24
5 West_Asian 3.28
6 Red_Sea 1.3
7 Oceanian 0.75
8 East_Asian 0.37
9 Sub-Saharan 0.3
10 Amerindian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.51
2 West_German 4.77
3 Southeast_English 5.32
4 French 6.94
5 Southwest_English 6.99
6 Orcadian 7.85
7 North_Dutch 8.5
8 North_German 8.67
9 Danish 8.76
10 Irish 9.11
11 West_Scottish 9.21
12 Norwegian 10.86
13 Austrian 11.16
14 Swedish 11.96
15 East_German 12.33
16 Spanish_Cataluna 13.92
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.13
18 Spanish_Galicia 15.37
19 Portuguese 15.51
20 Southwest_French 15.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.4% Swedish + 41.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.12
2 60.8% Norwegian + 39.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.13
3 66.7% North_Dutch + 33.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.2
4 53.9% Swedish + 46.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.24
5 56.4% Norwegian + 43.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.29
6 59.1% Norwegian + 40.9% Portuguese @ 2.34
7 81.2% Southeast_English + 18.8% North_Italian @ 2.36
8 62.7% North_Dutch + 37.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.37
9 65.3% North_Dutch + 34.7% Portuguese @ 2.41
10 66.1% Danish + 33.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.42
11 58.6% Swedish + 41.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.46
12 57.9% Southeast_English + 42.1% French @ 2.48
13 84.7% Southeast_English + 15.3% Tuscan @ 2.53
14 61% Norwegian + 39% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.53
15 58.5% Norwegian + 41.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.53
16 62% Danish + 38% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.53
17 64.8% North_Dutch + 35.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.55
18 67.1% North_Dutch + 32.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.58
19 56.1% Swedish + 43.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.58
20 64.6% Danish + 35.4% Portuguese @ 2.6


Distance to: Birmingham
3.33388662 Belgian
3.75602183 French_North
4.04545424 Dutch_South
4.31344410 French_Brittany
5.62401102 German_Southwest
6.00389041 English_Southeast
6.35568250 English_Midlands
6.71664351 English_Southwest
6.95156817 French_Alsace
7.32826037 Dutch
7.54418319 English_North
7.59717053 French_Central
7.66252569 Swiss_German
7.91512476 Dutch_Central
8.10515885 Welsh
8.40841840 German
8.82776302 German_Northwest
9.15534270 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
9.17912305 Scottish
9.60400958 Dutch_North

Distance to: Birmingham
2.83716408 French_Normandy
3.66167994 Flemish
3.74370138 Dutch_Limburg
4.18689623 French_Hauts_de_France
4.31344410 French_Brittany
4.39121851 German_North_Hesse
4.80911634 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
4.86557294 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
4.91656384 French_Northeast
5.26447528 Dutch_North-Brabant
5.30234854 German_Saarland
5.33117248 English_East
5.62401102 German_South_Hesse
5.64817670 German_North_Rhine
6.11290438 Dutch_South-Holland
6.13744246 English_East-Midlands
6.35062202 English_Southeast
6.65027067 English_West-Midlands
6.78392217 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
6.84767844 Cornish

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Kit A655510

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.43
2 Baltic 22.7
3 West_Med 16.75
4 West_Asian 7.78
5 East_Med 5.29
6 East_Asian 1.04
7 Sub-Saharan 0.43
8 Oceanian 0.33
9 Northeast_African 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.41
2 West_German 4.32
3 Southeast_English 6.09
4 Southwest_English 6.95
5 Orcadian 7.57
6 North_German 7.62
7 North_Dutch 8.04
8 French 8.19
9 Irish 8.25
10 Danish 8.36
11 West_Scottish 8.86
12 Austrian 10.27
13 Norwegian 10.27
14 Swedish 11.28
15 East_German 11.42
16 Hungarian 15.07
17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.17
18 North_Swedish 16.07
19 Southwest_French 16.51
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Southwest_English + 21.1% Bulgarian @ 2.42
2 76.9% Southwest_English + 23.1% Romanian @ 2.5
3 74.6% Southwest_English + 25.4% Serbian @ 2.79
4 69.8% North_German + 30.2% Southwest_French @ 2.9
5 70.4% North_German + 29.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.96
6 85.7% North_Dutch + 14.3% Sardinian @ 3
7 67.1% West_German + 32.9% Southwest_English @ 3.03
8 73.7% North_German + 26.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.05
9 80.7% South_Dutch + 19.3% Southwest_English @ 3.07
10 83.9% South_Dutch + 16.1% Irish @ 3.07
11 72.1% North_German + 27.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.13
12 86.9% South_Dutch + 13.1% West_Scottish @ 3.17
13 82.7% Southwest_English + 17.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
14 84.8% South_Dutch + 15.2% Orcadian @ 3.18
15 68.2% North_German + 31.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.18
16 73.4% North_German + 26.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.2
17 86.6% North_German + 13.4% Sardinian @ 3.22
18 86.8% South_Dutch + 13.2% North_Dutch @ 3.22
19 90% South_Dutch + 10% Norwegian @ 3.23
20 64.4% Swedish + 35.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.23




Distance to: WestMidlands
3.66610147 Belgian
3.79549733 Dutch_South
4.62364575 French_Brittany
4.76067222 French_North
5.46850985 English_Southeast
5.85233287 English_Midlands
5.91910466 German_Southwest
6.23576780 English_Southwest
6.79801442 French_Alsace
7.03695247 Welsh
7.05606122 English_North
7.31068396 Dutch
7.42584675 German
7.55515056 German_Northwest
7.74034883 Swiss_German
8.06739735 Dutch_Central
8.12672136 Scottish
8.72331932 French_Central
8.77532905 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
8.96428887 Austrian_Lower_Austria

Distance to: WestMidlands
3.17562592 Flemish
3.88592331 French_Normandy
4.15220423 German_North_Rhine
4.24124982 Dutch_North-Brabant
4.62364575 French_Brittany
4.71527306 Dutch_Limburg
4.95884059 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
5.08866387 French_Northeast
5.26730481 English_East
5.44544764 Dutch_South-Holland
5.51186901 English_East-Midlands
5.66807728 English_Southeast
5.87492979 French_Hauts_de_France
5.91285041 German_Saarland
5.91910466 German_South_Hesse
6.00762848 Swiss_German_North
6.15293426 English_West-Midlands
6.19061386 English_West-Country
6.19429576 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
6.69599881 Cornish
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From SE England

Kit FP2574789

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.06
2 Baltic 21.9
3 West_Med 14.76
4 East_Med 8.45
5 West_Asian 6.29
6 Oceanian 1.27
7 East_Asian 0.91
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Amerindian 0.77
10 Siberian 0.52
11 South_Asian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 1.75
2 South_Dutch 2.54
3 French 6.77
4 Southeast_English 6.83
5 North_German 8.02
6 Southwest_English 8.68
7 Orcadian 8.84
8 North_Dutch 8.97
9 Danish 9.06
10 Austrian 9.5
11 Irish 9.87
12 West_Scottish 10.26
13 East_German 11.16
14 Norwegian 11.32
15 Swedish 12.05
16 Hungarian 13.69
17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.37
18 Portuguese 15.64
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.71
20 Spanish_Galicia 15.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.2% West_German + 10.8% Southeast_English @ 1.55
2 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Southwest_English @ 1.57
3 99.3% West_German + 0.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 1.61
4 93.7% West_German + 6.3% West_Scottish @ 1.61
5 93% West_German + 7% Orcadian @ 1.62
6 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Papuan @ 1.63
7 97.6% West_German + 2.4% French_Basque @ 1.63
8 94.3% West_German + 5.7% Irish @ 1.65
9 99.4% West_German + 0.6% Miaozu @ 1.67
10 99.5% West_German + 0.5% She @ 1.67
11 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Dai @ 1.67
12 99.4% West_German + 0.6% Tujia @ 1.67
13 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Vietnamese @ 1.67
14 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Lahu @ 1.67
15 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Yizu @ 1.68
16 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Naxi @ 1.69
17 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Japanese @ 1.69
18 95% West_German + 5% North_Dutch @ 1.69
19 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Cambodian @ 1.69
20 99.5% West_German + 0.5% Malay @ 1.7


Distance to: SE_Eng
2.38639896 Belgian
3.22917946 French_North
3.88921586 German_Southwest
4.30931549 Dutch_South
4.47506425 French_Alsace
5.29409105 Swiss_German
6.02963515 French_Brittany
6.70578854 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
6.71501303 English_Southeast
6.94805009 German
7.27395353 English_Midlands
7.45984584 French_Central
7.97230205 English_Southwest
8.09882090 Dutch
8.25150744 Austrian_Lower_Austria
8.59722048 English_North
8.63679918 Austrian_Burgenland
8.64071178 Swiss_French
8.68184888 German_Northwest
8.78227192 Dutch_Central

Distance to: SE_Eng
2.43244733 German_North_Rhine
2.88392094 Flemish
3.18094326 Dutch_Limburg
3.26427634 German_North_Hesse
3.27177322 French_Northeast
3.45532922 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
3.53048155 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
3.55811748 French_Normandy
3.88921586 German_South_Hesse
3.91757578 French_Hauts_de_France
4.15636861 German_Baden-Württemberg
4.34259139 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.47506425 French_Alsace
4.61878772 German_Saarland
4.61900422 Swiss_German_North
5.19976923 German_Bavaria_Proper
5.29409105 Swiss_German
5.55800324 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.02963515 French_Brittany
6.12010621 English_East

That is pretty much the Southern limit.



It’s crazy how diverse England is one person could be close to frisians Icelandic’s Danes Norwegians and the next person close to south dutch Belgian west German

J. Ketch
03-23-2022, 10:16 AM
It’s crazy how diverse England is one person could be close to frisians Icelandic’s Danes Norwegians and the next person close to south dutch Belgian west German
England is somewhat diverse, but not really compared to the Netherlands, let alone France or Germany. The point I like to make is that Britain and the British Isles especially are more diverse than people make out. The exaggeration of the anthro-genetic similarity of British Isles peoples is a bugbear of mine, and conversely, so is the exaggeration of the cultural difference/hostilities between modern Irish/Scottish and English.

J. Ketch
03-27-2022, 04:50 PM
From here on I will sometimes post kits from specific places when I find new ones.

From Sheffield (4 grandparents from Sheffield, 5/8 G-Grandparents from Sheffield, 2/8 from neighbouring Lincolnshire, 1/8 from Cumberland).

Kit AG3156198

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 46.51
2 Baltic 25.7
3 West_Med 13.93
4 West_Asian 6.01
5 East_Med 5.5
6 East_Asian 1.65
7 Sub-Saharan 0.48
8 Siberian 0.14
9 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 4.56
2 South_Dutch 4.81
3 Southeast_English 4.85
4 North_Dutch 5.2
5 Danish 5.31
6 West_German 5.46
7 Orcadian 5.67
8 Southwest_English 6.71
9 Irish 6.82
10 Norwegian 7.06
11 West_Scottish 7.48
12 Swedish 7.8
13 Austrian 9.54
14 East_German 10.13
15 French 10.87
16 North_Swedish 12.61
17 Hungarian 14.24
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.21
19 Serbian 19.47
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Norwegian + 21.9% North_Italian @ 2.1
2 63.8% South_Dutch + 36.2% Swedish @ 2.28
3 68.4% Southeast_English + 31.6% Austrian @ 2.29
4 78.8% Orcadian + 21.2% Serbian @ 2.29
5 69.1% Southwest_English + 30.9% Hungarian @ 2.35
6 82.1% Southeast_English + 17.9% Croatian @ 2.35
7 70.8% Swedish + 29.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.37
8 61.4% South_Dutch + 38.6% Norwegian @ 2.37
9 70% Southeast_English + 30% East_German @ 2.38
10 57.5% West_German + 42.5% Norwegian @ 2.39
11 64.2% Orcadian + 35.8% Austrian @ 2.4
12 83.4% Southeast_English + 16.6% Moldavian @ 2.41
13 77% Southeast_English + 23% Hungarian @ 2.43
14 83.5% North_German + 16.5% Southwest_French @ 2.45
15 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% Bulgarian @ 2.45
16 59.6% Southwest_English + 40.4% Austrian @ 2.48
17 75.7% Swedish + 24.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.49
18 81.7% Orcadian + 18.3% Romanian @ 2.5
19 84.2% Southeast_English + 15.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
20 84.6% Southeast_English + 15.4% Ukrainian @ 2.52


Distance to: Sheffield1
3.38808205 Dutch_South
4.13933570 English_Southeast
4.24112014 Dutch
4.28239419 English_Midlands
4.51191755 German_Northwest
4.91936988 Dutch_Central
4.96680984 Belgian
5.26893727 English_North
5.34794353 English_Southwest
5.51172387 German
5.56139371 French_Brittany
6.01276974 Dutch_North
6.06921741 Welsh
6.74086790 Scottish
7.13433248 French_North
7.49106134 Danish
7.50319932 Icelandic
7.97252783 Norwegian
8.03923504 Swedish_Götaland
8.08706993 German_Southwest

Target: Sheffield1
Distance: 1.9744% / 1.97444968 | R2P
51.8 Norwegian
48.2 French_Alsace

Distance to: Sheffield1
2.49487475 Dutch_South-Holland
3.47164226 Dutch_North-Brabant
3.79689347 English_East
3.91726946 English_East-Midlands
4.04859235 Flemish
4.29638220 English_Southeast
4.51191755 German_Lower_Saxony_South
4.59239589 German_Westphalia
4.64302703 English_West-Midlands
4.68694997 Dutch_Gelderland
4.76241535 English_Northeast
5.40877066 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
5.50365333 English_West-Country
5.54641326 Dutch_Limburg
5.56139371 French_Brittany
5.61415176 German_Schleswig-Holstein
5.64736222 English_Lancashire
5.83000000 French_Normandy
5.93952860 English_Yorkshire
5.97396853 Cornish

Target: Sheffield1
Distance: 2.0089% / 2.00887726 | R2P
68.6 Cornish
31.4 German_County_Glatz

K36


Distance to: Sheffield1
6.43303972 Irish_Leinster
6.75223667 English_Northeast
6.78406220 Scottish
6.96587396 Irish_Connacht
7.03278039 English_Southwest
7.06171367 Cornish
7.09020451 Welsh
7.49585886 English_Yorkshire
7.54707228 Irish_Ulster
7.85511935 English_Southeast
7.87330934 English_East-Midlands
8.31853352 English_West-Midlands
8.70697422 English_East
9.07302596 Dutch
9.39474321 Dutch_Central
9.51827716 Dutch_South
10.01719022 Dutch_North
10.63071964 Danish
11.23234615 Icelandic
11.35524108 Flemish

Target: Sheffield1
Distance: 6.1601% / 6.16013000 | R2P
52.9 Irish_Ulster
47.1 English_East-Midlands

Target: Sheffield1
Distance: 6.3742% / 6.37417346 | R2P
69.9 Irish_Ulster
30.1 Flemish


Germanic-shifted in K13, Celtic-shifted in K36, like many Northern English and Insular Celts.

J. Ketch
03-27-2022, 05:10 PM
Further example of that is the Northeast English average. It is a smallish sample but in K13 it is the most Germanic shifted English region, while in K36 it is the 2nd most Celtic shifted area after the Southwest, which is in line with history and the POBI study.

K13


Distance to: English_Northeast
1.30977097 English_West-Midlands
1.33000000 English_Lancashire
1.38108653 English_Yorkshire
1.54003247 English_Southeast
1.54512135 English_East-Midlands
2.00067489 Scottish_Northeast
2.06804255 English_West-Country
2.07144877 Welsh_South
2.11014218 Scottish_East
2.19015981 Scottish_Orkney
2.33340952 Scottish_North-Highlands
2.46823824 English_East
2.51620746 Cornish
2.60697142 British_Ulster
2.64648824 German_Westphalia
2.66101484 Scottish_Southwest
2.69074339 Scottish_Shetland
2.83901391 Dutch_North-Holland
2.92355947 German_Lower_Saxony_South
2.93252451 Irish_Leinster



Target: English_Northeast
Distance: 0.5070% / 0.50698706 | R2P
54.4 Scottish_Southwest
45.6 Dutch_South-Holland

Target: English_Northeast
Distance: 0.5079% / 0.50793758
50.2 Dutch
49.8 Welsh

Target: English_Yorkshire
Distance: 0.7892% / 0.78916998
73.9 Welsh
26.1 Dutch

Target: English_West-Midlands
Distance: 1.1480% / 1.14795225
60.5 Welsh
39.5 Dutch

Target: English_West-Country
Distance: 1.3183% / 1.31828489
90.6 Welsh
9.4 Dutch

Target: English_Southeast
Distance: 1.5144% / 1.51444493
53.8 Welsh
46.2 Dutch

Target: English_Lancashire
Distance: 0.9278% / 0.92776164
66.6 Welsh
33.4 Dutch

Target: English_East-Midlands
Distance: 1.6296% / 1.62964116
53.6 Dutch
46.4 Welsh

Target: English_East
Distance: 2.3958% / 2.39581981
63.4 Dutch
36.6 Welsh

K36


Distance to: English_Northeast
2.31525377 Scottish
2.91724185 English_West-Midlands
3.12237089 English_Yorkshire
3.22311961 Welsh
3.26573116 English_Southeast
3.34399462 Irish_Leinster
3.43917141 Cornish
3.59367500 English_Southwest
3.63787026 English_East-Midlands
4.35707471 English_East
4.39646449 Dutch
4.82890257 Dutch_Central
5.24376773 Dutch_South
5.46268249 Irish_Connacht
6.80443973 Irish_Ulster
6.93499099 Danish
7.54833757 Dutch_North
7.56889688 Flemish
7.63982984 French_Brittany
8.48039504 Icelandic



Target: English_Northeast
Distance: 1.3466% / 1.34658760 | R2P
60.2 Irish_Leinster
39.8 Dutch_Central

Target: English_Northeast
Distance: 2.2609% / 2.26087551
62.1 Welsh
37.9 Dutch

Target: English_West-Midlands
Distance: 2.7114% / 2.71138341
50.0 Dutch
50.0 Welsh

Target: English_Yorkshire
Distance: 2.1781% / 2.17807709
53.8 Dutch
46.2 Welsh

Target: English_Southwest
Distance: 2.9063% / 2.90631825
90.8 Welsh
9.2 Dutch

Target: English_Southeast
Distance: 2.9396% / 2.93960596
55.6 Dutch
44.4 Welsh

Target: English_East-Midlands
Distance: 3.6427% / 3.64274214
60.3 Dutch
39.7 Welsh

Target: English_East
Distance: 3.8442% / 3.84417104
55.1 Dutch
44.9 Welsh

J. Ketch
03-27-2022, 08:08 PM
A kit from Shropshire, bordering Wales, that is the opposite of the Sheffield kit: very Celtic in K13, Germanic shifted in K36

K13


Kit LH1636247

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.8
2 Baltic 20.72
3 West_Med 16
4 West_Asian 4.95
5 East_Med 2.06
6 South_Asian 1.79
7 Amerindian 1.58
8 Oceanian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 2.77
2 West_Scottish 4.37
3 Southeast_English 4.62
4 Irish 4.76
5 Orcadian 4.94
6 North_Dutch 7.41
7 Danish 7.92
8 South_Dutch 8.91
9 Norwegian 9.18
10 North_German 9.72


Distance to: Salop1
4.33653087 Welsh
4.47955355 English_Southwest
4.63829710 Irish
4.79743682 Scottish
5.29303316 English_North
5.76263828 English_Midlands
6.00141650 English_Southeast
6.76523466 French_Brittany
7.45637982 Dutch
7.56003307 Dutch_Central
8.30814660 Dutch_North
8.45866420 Dutch_South
8.53022274 German_Northwest
8.71153833 Icelandic
9.58918662 Belgian
10.21772480 Danish
10.28054960 Norwegian
10.59903769 French_North
10.74403090 Norwegian_Southcentral
10.92162076 Swedish_Götaland

Target: Salop1
Distance: 1.6353% / 1.63533549 | R2P
85.3 Irish
14.7 Basque_France


K36


Distance to: Salop1
7.22068556 English_West-Midlands
7.90110752 Dutch_Central
7.91440459 English_Yorkshire
7.91599646 English_Northeast
7.95638109 Scottish
8.02790757 Dutch
8.09664745 English_East-Midlands
8.20410873 English_Southeast
8.22048052 English_East
8.98015033 Welsh
9.20637279 Irish_Leinster
9.75951843 Dutch_North
9.84451624 Cornish
9.90699248 English_Southwest
9.99048047 Dutch_South
10.15953247 Irish_Connacht
10.26793553 Danish
10.45279867 Flemish
11.01223411 Icelandic
11.52168390 French_Brittany

Distance to: Salop1
7.38737442 51.40% Dutch_Central + 48.60% Scottish
7.52816591 68.80% Dutch_Central + 31.20% Irish_Leinster
7.57097027 47.80% Dutch + 52.20% Scottish
7.57727332 21.60% German + 78.40% Scottish
7.59360921 75.60% Dutch_Central + 24.40% Irish_Connacht
7.62163479 69.60% Dutch_Central + 30.40% Welsh
7.66103743 82.00% Dutch_Central + 18.00% Irish_Ulster
7.71875342 78.40% Dutch_Central + 21.60% Cornish
7.73029185 21.20% Flemish + 78.80% Scottish
7.76930675 71.00% Dutch + 29.00% Irish_Leinster


The same is true for me.

K13


Distance to: Creoda
3.08930413 Irish_Munster
3.17458659 Scottish_Orkney
3.22342985 Irish_Connacht
3.32484586 Scottish_Southwest
3.50085704 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.54272494 Scottish_Northeast
3.63721047 Welsh_North
3.73570609 Irish_Leinster
3.74907989 Irish_Ulster
3.77066307 Scottish_East
3.79357351 English_Yorkshire
3.93069968 Scottish_North-Highlands
3.98198443 Dutch_Overijssel
4.03590139 Scottish_Shetland
4.03820505 English_Lancashire
4.06752996 German_Frisian
4.12783236 Dutch_North-Holland
4.24715199 British_Ulster
4.33764913 Icelandic
4.73232501 Welsh_South

K36


Distance to: Creoda
8.77827432 English_West-Midlands
9.31678593 English_East
9.34704766 English_East-Midlands
9.36183743 Scottish
9.54797884 Dutch
9.55236096 English_Yorkshire
9.55313561 English_Northeast
9.59769243 Dutch_Central
9.68224664 Danish
9.68441532 Welsh
9.95456679 English_Southeast
10.56607306 Irish_Leinster
10.88804849 Dutch_North
10.94807289 English_Southwest
10.96743817 Irish_Connacht
11.23640067 Cornish
11.30078316 Dutch_South
12.11194865 Icelandic
12.48195498 Flemish
12.62467425 Irish_Ulster

Distance to: Creoda
8.57855930 29.40% Danish + 70.60% English_West-Midlands
8.62901285 85.60% English_West-Midlands + 14.40% Norwegian
8.68025548 16.60% Dutch_North + 83.40% English_West-Midlands
8.75620614 97.80% English_West-Midlands + 2.20% Polish
8.77046082 8.60% Dutch_Central + 91.40% English_West-Midlands
8.77315377 7.40% Dutch + 92.60% English_West-Midlands
8.77345677 99.20% English_West-Midlands + 0.80% Russian
8.77554011 93.80% English_West-Midlands + 6.20% Scottish
8.77815743 99.40% English_West-Midlands + 0.60% Irish_Connacht
8.87037893 43.20% Danish + 56.80% English_East-Midlands

Luke35
03-27-2022, 08:58 PM
A kit from Shropshire, bordering Wales, that is the opposite of the Sheffield kit: very Celtic in K13, Germanic shifted in K36

Hey Creoda, do you have an updated spreadsheet for the K36 population averages, or are you using the old one that's been circulating around for a few years now?

J. Ketch
03-27-2022, 09:10 PM
Hey Creoda, do you have an updated spreadsheet for the K36 population averages, or are you using the old one that's been circulating around for a few years now?
I have my own, that I'm developing with rothaer, a work in progress. Outside of NW Europe it's fairly basic so far and not based on many samples (actually it's mostly from Apricity members).

https://pastebin.com/6tM7n6n5

J. Ketch
03-31-2022, 11:35 PM
East Anglian, with 1/8 Scottish. 58k though.


Kit EK3773717

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.77
2 Baltic 28.25
3 West_Med 10.98
4 East_Med 5.54
5 West_Asian 4.09
6 Northeast_African 1.11
7 Amerindian 1.1
8 Red_Sea 0.88
9 Oceanian 0.2
10 East_Asian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.5
2 Danish 3.93
3 North_Dutch 4.07
4 Norwegian 4.92
5 Swedish 5.13

Distance to: EastAnglia4
3.57569574 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.08779892 Dutch_Friesland
4.29478754 Dutch_Gelderland
4.51708977 Dutch_South-Holland
4.64003233 German_Lower_Saxony_South
4.70015957 Dutch_Overijssel
4.73358215 German_Hamburg
4.77790749 German_Westphalia
4.89743811 Danish
4.93799554 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.13445226 Swedish_Götaland
5.28186520 Dutch_North-Holland
5.29907539 Norwegian_Southcentral
5.40327678 Swedish_West-Svealand
5.76415649 English_Northeast
5.94699084 English_East-Midlands
6.02374468 English_East
6.10818304 Icelandic
6.23687422 English_Southeast
6.32028480 Scottish_Shetland

Target: EastAnglia4
Distance: 1.7929% / 1.79292128 | R2P
71.0 German_Schleswig-Holstein
29.0 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South

Sebbo
04-22-2022, 11:02 AM
One from Nottinghamshire I found recently

Kit GA7909082

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.75
2 Baltic 27.6
3 West_Med 9.3
4 West_Asian 6.19
5 East_Med 2.35
6 Red_Sea 2.2
7 South_Asian 1.58
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Northeast_African 0.05
10 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 2.75
2 North_Dutch 2.89
3 Norwegian 2.89
4 North_German 3.45
5 Swedish 4.16
6 Orcadian 4.98
7 Irish 5.24
8 West_Scottish 5.83
9 Southeast_English 6.85
10 Southwest_English 7.72
11 South_Dutch 9.79
12 North_Swedish 10.02
13 West_German 10.49
14 East_German 13.01
15 Austrian 13.13
16 French 15.89
17 Hungarian 17.27
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.24
19 South_Polish 21.31
20 Croatian 22.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Saudi @ 1.88
2 96.7% Norwegian + 3.3% Bedouin @ 2.04
3 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.06
4 96.8% Norwegian + 3.2% Iranian @ 2.11
5 97.1% Norwegian + 2.9% Makrani @ 2.13
6 96.8% Norwegian + 3.2% Syrian @ 2.13
7 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Palestinian @ 2.14
8 58.3% Norwegian + 41.7% North_German @ 2.15
9 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Jordanian @ 2.16
10 97% Norwegian + 3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.16
11 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Sindhi @ 2.17
12 97% Norwegian + 3% Egyptian @ 2.17
13 97% Norwegian + 3% Pathan @ 2.18
14 97.1% Norwegian + 2.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.18
15 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Brahui @ 2.18
16 96.7% Norwegian + 3.3% Azeri @ 2.19
17 96.6% Norwegian + 3.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.19
18 96.9% Norwegian + 3.1% Kurdish @ 2.19
19 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Balochi @ 2.19
20 97% Norwegian + 3% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.2


Distance to: Nottinghamshire
2.81712620 Icelandic
2.85538089 Danish
3.03214446 Norwegian_Southcentral
3.10290187 Norwegian
3.14456674 Swedish_Götaland
3.22778562 Dutch_North
3.79942101 German_Northwest
4.21470046 Swedish_West-Svealand
4.21862537 Dutch_Central
4.66908985 Dutch
4.75194697 Swedish
5.93325374 English_North
6.10924709 Scottish
6.52928021 English_Midlands
6.73867198 Irish
6.74094949 Welsh
6.79928673 English_Southeast
7.26812906 English_Southwest
7.95440130 Swedish_East-Svealand
8.74531303 Dutch_South

Distance to: Nottinghamshire
2.62459521 German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.64767823 Dutch_Friesland
2.81712620 Icelandic
2.85538089 Danish
3.03214446 Norwegian_Southcentral
3.14456674 Swedish_Götaland
3.55119698 Dutch_North-Holland
3.57910603 Dutch_Overijssel
3.58185706 German_Hamburg
3.71282911 German_Westphalia
3.79942101 German_Lower_Saxony_South
3.92725095 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.21470046 Swedish_West-Svealand
4.32660375 Scottish_Shetland
5.18275024 Dutch_Gelderland
5.22614581 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
5.45932230 English_Northeast
5.49921813 Scottish_Orkney
5.91821764 Scottish_Northeast
5.93472830 English_Yorkshire


One from Staffordshire with low North Atlantic

Kit T203093

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.97
2 Baltic 26.85
3 West_Med 14.62
4 East_Med 8.41
5 West_Asian 3.94
6 Red_Sea 1
7 South_Asian 0.82
8 Oceanian 0.18
9 Northeast_African 0.14
10 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 4.82
2 South_Dutch 4.82
3 North_German 6.61
4 Austrian 7.06
5 Southeast_English 7.24
6 East_German 7.9
7 Danish 7.92
8 North_Dutch 8.09
9 Orcadian 8.78
10 Southwest_English 9.53
11 Swedish 9.65
12 Norwegian 9.78
13 French 9.82
14 Irish 10.13
15 West_Scottish 10.64
16 Hungarian 11.63
17 North_Swedish 12.77
18 Serbian 16.68
19 Croatian 17.09
20 Spanish_Cataluna 17.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Austrian + 49.3% Southeast_English @ 2.31
2 62.5% Southeast_English + 37.5% Hungarian @ 2.37
3 71.3% Southeast_English + 28.7% Croatian @ 2.47
4 86% South_Dutch + 14% Belorussian @ 2.68
5 87.8% South_Dutch + 12.2% Lithuanian @ 2.75
6 73.6% Southeast_English + 26.4% Moldavian @ 2.75
7 70.4% Swedish + 29.6% North_Italian @ 2.75
8 86.5% South_Dutch + 13.5% Estonian @ 2.78
9 52.5% Southeast_English + 47.5% East_German @ 2.78
10 86.4% South_Dutch + 13.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
11 71.2% Southeast_English + 28.8% Serbian @ 2.84
12 57% French + 43% North_Swedish @ 2.88
13 82.8% South_Dutch + 17.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.9
14 84.5% South_Dutch + 15.5% Polish @ 2.93
15 55.4% Southwest_English + 44.6% Hungarian @ 2.93
16 86.5% South_Dutch + 13.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.97
17 58.6% Austrian + 41.4% Southwest_English @ 3
18 82.8% South_Dutch + 17.2% South_Polish @ 3.05
19 86.6% South_Dutch + 13.4% Finnish @ 3.06
20 66.3% South_Dutch + 33.7% East_German @ 3.11



Distance to: Staffordshire
3.89219732 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.14971083 Dutch_Limburg
4.90941952 German_North_Moravia
5.14904846 Flemish
5.26959201 German_North_Hesse
5.39297691 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
5.59457773 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.74078392 Dutch_South-Holland
6.18988691 French_Normandy
6.25919324 German_Bavaria_Proper
6.30854183 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.31093495 German_North_Rhine
6.43268995 German_South_Hesse
6.45184470 German_Baden-Württemberg
6.45680261 French_Alsace
6.47050230 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
6.61810396 German_Thuringia_Central
6.78319983 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
6.89375079 English_East
7.17455225 French_Northeast


One of the lowest North Atlantic scores in an English person I've seen was former member Jackson's mother, from SE England


Distance to: Jackson_mother(english)
4.00366082 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.04944441 German_North_Rhine
4.60166274 German_North_Moravia
4.78882031 Flemish
5.39527571 Dutch_Limburg
5.81720723 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
5.87170333 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
5.94777269 German_Bavaria_Proper
5.94921844 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.95728126 German_Baden-Württemberg
5.96930482 French_Alsace
6.01493142 Dutch_North-Brabant
6.17601813 German_South_Hesse
6.18750354 Swiss_German_North
6.29996032 French_Northeast
6.40598158 French_Normandy
6.47248793 Dutch_South-Holland
6.83456473 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.00812386 German_West_Bohemia
7.10273187 Swiss_German

In general though English kits are pretty homogenous, nearly all falling on the Irish-like to Dutch-like spectrum (and contrary to popular belief, most are closer to Dutch). A few plot closest to Germans, seldom is one closest to Scandinavians, and I can't remember seeing one closest to French.

Is Jackson's mother's single population distance based on K13? Thanks 😀

J. Ketch
04-23-2022, 07:01 AM
Is Jackson's mother's single population distance based on K13? Thanks ��
Yes.

The K36 for comparison

Distance to: Jackson_mother(Eng)
7.92060604 German
9.24115794 German_Lower_Saxony_South
10.04800478 German_Northwest
10.13112037 German_Saxony
10.14736912 German_Thuringia_East
10.24153309 Dutch_South
10.27780132 English_East-Midlands
10.37657940 English_East
10.49799028 German_Hither_Pomerania
10.52521734 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
10.59158156 Belgian
10.64417681 English_Northeast
10.66211986 English_West-Midlands
10.72110069 Dutch_Central
10.75551022 English
10.87401950 English_Southeast
10.88351965 Dutch
10.88960514 French_Normandy
10.93648938 German_Thuringia_Central
11.02894827 German_Westphalia
11.03874993 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
11.06902886 Danish_2
11.16159487 German_North_Rhine
11.20017411 Flemish
11.21903294 English_Yorkshire

Target: Jackson_mother(Eng)
Distance: 565.1389% / 5.65138867 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 German_Lower_Saxony_South
24.0 German_Lower_Silesia
19.8 Italian_Veneto

Target: Jackson_mother(Eng)
Distance: 535.5525% / 5.35552538 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.6 German_Lower_Saxony_South
22.0 German_Lower_Silesia
15.0 Italian_Veneto
5.2 Irish_Ulster
3.4 Greek_Thrace
1.6 Darginian
1.2 Kalash

Bugbear85
11-01-2022, 02:21 PM
My results (lots of Northern English ancestry and about 25% West Wales; known as little England beyond Wales). I have great grandparents from Lancashire, Yorkshire, Oxfordshire, Cumbria and Wales.
Would appreciate any feedback on the typical-ness of my results.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.43
2 Baltic 26.6
3 West_Med 13.02
4 East_Med 4.24
5 West_Asian 3.93
6 Siberian 1.32
7 Northeast_African 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.12
2 North_Dutch 3.19
3 Danish 3.53
4 Southeast_English 3.75
5 Norwegian 4.52
6 Irish 4.79
7 West_Scottish 4.97
8 North_German 5.13
9 Southwest_English 5.24
10 Swedish 6.35
11 South_Dutch 7.77
12 West_German 8.9
13 North_Swedish 11.84
14 Austrian 12.87
15 East_German 12.9
16 French 13.53
17 Hungarian 17.39
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.62
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.55
20 Southwest_French 21.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Southeast_English + 21.2% North_Swedish @ 2.06
2 85.4% Norwegian + 14.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.17
3 86.4% Southeast_English + 13.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.17
4 85.9% Norwegian + 14.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.18
5 66.2% Southeast_English + 33.8% Swedish @ 2.19
6 84.4% Norwegian + 15.6% Southwest_French @ 2.22
7 83.9% Norwegian + 16.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.24
8 84.9% Norwegian + 15.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.27
9 89.5% Southeast_English + 10.5% Finnish @ 2.28
10 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.28
11 85.8% Norwegian + 14.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.3
12 56.7% Southeast_English + 43.3% Norwegian @ 2.31
13 85.7% Norwegian + 14.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.32
14 86.8% Norwegian + 13.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.33
15 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% Belorussian @ 2.36
16 80.7% Southwest_English + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.38
17 90.9% Southeast_English + 9.1% East_Finnish @ 2.38
18 92.9% Norwegian + 7.1% Sardinian @ 2.39
19 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.4
20 91.8% Orcadian + 8.2% South_Polish @ 2.41

J. Ketch
11-02-2022, 07:06 AM
My results (lots of Northern English ancestry and about 25% West Wales; known as little England beyond Wales). I have great grandparents from Lancashire, Yorkshire, Oxfordshire, Cumbria and Wales.
Would appreciate any feedback on the typical-ness of my results.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.43
2 Baltic 26.6
3 West_Med 13.02
4 East_Med 4.24
5 West_Asian 3.93
6 Siberian 1.32
7 Northeast_African 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.12
2 North_Dutch 3.19
3 Danish 3.53
4 Southeast_English 3.75
5 Norwegian 4.52
6 Irish 4.79
7 West_Scottish 4.97
8 North_German 5.13
9 Southwest_English 5.24
10 Swedish 6.35
11 South_Dutch 7.77
12 West_German 8.9
13 North_Swedish 11.84
14 Austrian 12.87
15 East_German 12.9
16 French 13.53
17 Hungarian 17.39
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.62
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.55
20 Southwest_French 21.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Southeast_English + 21.2% North_Swedish @ 2.06
2 85.4% Norwegian + 14.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.17
3 86.4% Southeast_English + 13.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.17
4 85.9% Norwegian + 14.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.18
5 66.2% Southeast_English + 33.8% Swedish @ 2.19
6 84.4% Norwegian + 15.6% Southwest_French @ 2.22
7 83.9% Norwegian + 16.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.24
8 84.9% Norwegian + 15.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.27
9 89.5% Southeast_English + 10.5% Finnish @ 2.28
10 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.28
11 85.8% Norwegian + 14.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.3
12 56.7% Southeast_English + 43.3% Norwegian @ 2.31
13 85.7% Norwegian + 14.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.32
14 86.8% Norwegian + 13.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.33
15 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% Belorussian @ 2.36
16 80.7% Southwest_English + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.38
17 90.9% Southeast_English + 9.1% East_Finnish @ 2.38
18 92.9% Norwegian + 7.1% Sardinian @ 2.39
19 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.4
20 91.8% Orcadian + 8.2% South_Polish @ 2.41
Hi, your score is pretty Northern shifted compared to average, but within the normal range for Northern English. It is probably slightly closer to Central/North Dutch regions than to English, but that is common as English and Dutch have large overlap.

You can can compare yourself to updated regional averages here, in K13 and K36.
https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

K13
https://pastebin.com/7cn4xK0C
https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

K36
https://pastebin.com/6tM7n6n5

Sam Ryan
11-19-2022, 10:34 AM
Is the Modern Oracle MDLP K11 a good project? I guess it is implying if it could guess my 'ethnicity' it would say I'm British (Celtic) or German?

This is the Single Population Sharing - MDLP K11 Modern Oracle results:

British_Celtic 6.02

Alberstedt_LN 6.43

Bell_Beaker_Germany 6.66

Halberstadt_LBA 8.09

British_Iron Age 8.97

Bell_Beaker_Czech 10.11

Nordic_MC_B 11.24

British_AngloSaxon 11.42

Nordic_BA 11.78

BenzeigerodeHeimburg_LN 12.2

Nordic_LN 12.22

Bell_Beaker 13.19

Unetice_EBA 13.2

Nordic_BattleAxe 14.37

Hungary_BA 14.45

nORDIC_i1 15.03

cORDEDwAREProtoUnetice Poland 15.52

Irish_BA 15.57

Nordic_LBA 15.68

Maros_BA 15.99

This was the Eurogenes project result.

# Population (source) Distance

1 South_Dutch 4.1

2 West_German 4.14

3 Austrian 7.5

4 French 7.93

5 North_German 8.73

6 Southeast_English 8.84

7 East_German 8.89

8 Southwest_English 10

9 North_Dutch 10.19

10 Orcadian 10.2

11 Danish 10.28

12 Irish 11

13 West_Scottish 11.72

14 Norwegian 12.12

15 Hungarian 12.23

16 Swedish 12.3

17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.93

18 Serbian 15.8

19 Spanish_Galicia 15.81

20 North_Swedish 15.9

Loewin
11-21-2022, 05:26 PM
My K13. What's with all the Caucasus in Mixed Mode...?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.69
2 Baltic 27.99
3 West_Med 12.71
4 West_Asian 10.6
5 East_Med 2.44
6 South_Asian 1.06
7 Amerindian 0.93
8 Red_Sea 0.42
9 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 5.13
2 North_Dutch 7.48
3 Danish 7.49
4 Swedish 7.7
5 West_German 8.16
6 Norwegian 8.27
7 South_Dutch 8.37
8 Austrian 8.49
9 East_German 8.6
10 Orcadian 8.87
11 Irish 9.04
12 Southeast_English 9.35
13 West_Scottish 10.22
14 Southwest_English 10.44
15 North_Swedish 11.5
16 Hungarian 12.66
17 French 14.13
18 Croatian 17.34
19 South_Polish 17.58
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69% Irish + 31% Moldavian @ 3.42
2 89.1% Swedish + 10.9% Georgian @ 3.48
3 89.6% Swedish + 10.4% Abhkasian @ 3.54
4 67.2% Irish + 32.8% Croatian @ 3.61
5 88.1% Swedish + 11.9% Ossetian @ 3.61
6 92.9% North_German + 7.1% Kabardin @ 3.68
7 86.3% Norwegian + 13.7% Kabardin @ 3.68
8 93.2% North_German + 6.8% Balkar @ 3.74
9 86.9% Norwegian + 13.1% Adygei @ 3.74
10 93.4% North_German + 6.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.74
11 87.9% Swedish + 12.1% Adygei @ 3.75
12 87.7% Swedish + 12.3% Balkar @ 3.75
13 86.7% Norwegian + 13.3% Balkar @ 3.77
14 92.9% North_German + 7.1% Chechen @ 3.78
15 93.6% North_German + 6.4% Ossetian @ 3.8
16 93.4% North_German + 6.6% Adygei @ 3.8
17 87.5% Swedish + 12.5% Kabardin @ 3.84
18 88.2% Swedish + 11.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.86
19 87.2% Norwegian + 12.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.86
20 88.5% Norwegian + 11.5% Georgian @ 3.92

Sam Ryan
06-14-2023, 08:02 PM
Hey

Can you please let me know how you got the regional averages for each country for K13 and K36? Is it based on data collected from people who say four of their grandparents were from a particular place?

J. Ketch
06-15-2023, 06:41 AM
Hey

Can you please let me know how you got the regional averages for each country for K13 and K36? Is it based on data collected from people who say four of their grandparents were from a particular place?
https://c.tenor.com/pg0m5lO_Bn0AAAAd/tenor.gif

I got them for gedmatch kits with gedcoms (family trees) with usually at least 7/8 great grandparents from a particular region. If the tree didn't go back that far then 4/4 grandparents would suffice.

And contrary to what people have said on this forum there are plenty of people with practially full English ancestry, easily found. I think I collected nearly 500. People with ancestry completely from one English region are seldom though, these days.

Sam Ryan
06-15-2023, 08:19 AM
Thanks!

I'm also curious about the Sub-Saharan African ancestry for each region. It seems like the English average is 0.18 percent SS African but can we consider that just noise?

Also, why would Finnish people have 0.36 percent? It looks like Central Greek people have less than these parts of Europe at 0 percent! And Italians don't seem to have elevated SSA compared to, say, Germans. Why would Japanese (0.30) have more SSA admixture than South Italians (0.27)?

Why would English people have on average 0.40 Oceanian?

Davystayn
06-15-2023, 09:20 AM
Here are my K13 results, have a lot of Irish and Welsh as well as English, so probably shouldn't count. As Creoda says though, it is harder to find people with great grandparents all from the same region.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):


#

Population

Percent

1

North_Atlantic

49.16

2

Baltic

22.75

3

West_Med

13.64

4

East_Med

6.27

5

West_Asian

5.26

6

South_Asian

2.60



Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 2.650105
2 Orcadian @ 5.182894
3 Southwest_English @ 5.252799
4 South_Dutch @ 5.709302
5 Danish @ 5.829826
6 North_Dutch @ 6.086607
7 Irish @ 6.385859
8 West_Scottish @ 6.515619
9 North_German @ 6.802213
10 West_German @ 7.042079
11 Norwegian @ 8.874299
12 Swedish @ 10.909374
13 French @ 11.487432
14 Austrian @ 14.416389
15 East_German @ 15.251284
16 North_Swedish @ 17.001139
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.483986
18 Hungarian @ 19.699221
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 20.938850
20 Southwest_French @ 21.128302

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_German +50% West_Scottish @ 2.646796


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English +25% West_German @ 1.920234


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.920234
2 Danish + Danish + French + Southeast_English @ 1.936491
3 Danish + Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.968723
4 Danish + French + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.988352
5 South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.003158
6 Danish + French + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.042223
7 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.061846
8 Danish + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.090664
9 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.112575
10 Danish + French + Irish + Southeast_English @ 2.130280
11 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.131854
12 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.135453
13 Danish + Danish + French + Southwest_English @ 2.139359
14 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.166422
15 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 2.190831
16 Danish + French + North_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 2.198643
17 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.207455
18 Irish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.216580
19 Danish + Danish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.233855
20 Danish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.234939

Done.

Elapsed time 1.2885 seconds.

Ketchup
06-29-2024, 06:12 PM
East Anglian, with 1/8 Scottish. 58k though.


Kit EK3773717

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.77
2 Baltic 28.25
3 West_Med 10.98
4 East_Med 5.54
5 West_Asian 4.09
6 Northeast_African 1.11
7 Amerindian 1.1
8 Red_Sea 0.88
9 Oceanian 0.2
10 East_Asian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.5
2 Danish 3.93
3 North_Dutch 4.07
4 Norwegian 4.92
5 Swedish 5.13

Distance to: EastAnglia4
3.57569574 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.08779892 Dutch_Friesland
4.29478754 Dutch_Gelderland
4.51708977 Dutch_South-Holland
4.64003233 German_Lower_Saxony_South
4.70015957 Dutch_Overijssel
4.73358215 German_Hamburg
4.77790749 German_Westphalia
4.89743811 Danish
4.93799554 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.13445226 Swedish_Götaland
5.28186520 Dutch_North-Holland
5.29907539 Norwegian_Southcentral
5.40327678 Swedish_West-Svealand
5.76415649 English_Northeast
5.94699084 English_East-Midlands
6.02374468 English_East
6.10818304 Icelandic
6.23687422 English_Southeast
6.32028480 Scottish_Shetland

Target: EastAnglia4
Distance: 1.7929% / 1.79292128 | R2P
71.0 German_Schleswig-Holstein
29.0 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South

Wow this guy doesn't even score like other English folks. Very atypical?

J. Ketch
06-29-2024, 11:24 PM
Wow this guy doesn't even score like other English folks. Very atypical?
Yes. The low SNP count probably has something to do with it. For that reason I never used kits with less than 78k SNPs.

Watersater79
12-07-2024, 10:14 PM
Yes. The low SNP count probably has something to do with it. For that reason I never used kits with less than 78k SNPs.

The question is, after looking at all these kits, can one say the English are genetically closer to the Dutch or Welsh? I know (as you elaborated on), the 'Southeast England' component is rather bogus in that is more western-shifted than it actually purports to be (unless that is lost in translation on my part) but most of the kits (genuinely) originating from SE England seem closer to the Dutch/Northern Germans. Other sources paint a different story, whereby the Welsh are 1.5 times closer to the English than their Dutch counterparts (with the English themselves being far closer to the Dutch than northern Germans).
https://i.postimg.cc/W4Y3Lbgc/Smokey-Robinson.png
Interesting how there (in a Northwest European context) seems to be so little overlap between the English and the French even when concerning those from the north, particularly when taking into account the more 'recent' non-Brythonic/non-Germanic ancestry the English have (distinguishing them from the Welsh & Scottish) that undoubtedly came from straight across the Channel in what is now Northern France. The 'French' component that came over to England must have belonged to a very phenotypically/genetically unique populace. 'It' was seemingly smaller in number than the Anglo-Saxon migrations anyhow (being responsible for 30% of the modern English genome compared to 40% of the Anglo-Saxon variety).